So you want to know who the 'Illuminati' is or are...was

Sorry OP, you're not there yet.

"Elites" are nothing but upper class slaves. They're not the masters of this world, merely puppets. You have to look beyond them to see the real enslavers, the hidden hand. And they are not human.


You're clearly trying to hide the obvious. No it's not the ones that look like they're enslaving you it's something else you can't see or define clearly...

Edit: Also no one is commenting on the Anti-Christ portion of this. I know many don't like that stuff but the upper class is a hum dinger for the AC, they're the exact opposite of the character described as Christ.


You're getting CLOSER... but not there YET.

It DOES have to do with spirituality, but not like you think.

Sorry to burst your spiritual bubble, and that of anyone else's, and I too was shocked to discover this as well, but it is the TRUTH:

"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
- Pope Leo X.

ALL RELIGIONS ARE TOOLS OF THE RULERS TO CONTROL THE MASSES.


There is no ONE specific person who will be an "anti-christ" that is just subterfuge to lead people on an endless goose chase while THEY work behind the scenes to create MORE CONTROL.

IF you go back in time and study history, ALL RULERS WERE GODS. As they died and were replaced by their progeny, their "legend" became the "story" of the "god."

There is ONE CHIEF ENTITY or Spirit if you will, who has reincarnated over and over and over ad infinitum from the beginning of time as the CHEIF RULER... and has split off spiritually into other "tribes" to be the King/Ruler... ALL WITH THE SAME AGENDA.

You can visibly see the manifestation of Evil on this planet by the actions taken by the RULING CLASS. You can see it ALL DOWN THROUGH HISTORY TO THE PRESENT DAY.

You CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AT HAND WITHOUT LOOKING TO THE SUPERNATURAL and understanding THIS IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE SITUATION.

I"m not talking Religion here; I am talking PURE SPIRIT ENERGY. The essence of the question: WHO am I?? WHAT is MY CONSCIOUSNESS?? Science knows it is NOT the Brain. So WHAT is IT?? IT IS SPIRIT. WHERE did it COME FROM?? Is there ONLY ONE KIND OF SPIRIT???

Once you begin looking at the situation from this point of view, you begin to understand the nature of what is REALLY GOING ON.

It is for this VERY REASON that Religion was conceived to confuse and mislead the masses. It is for this very reason that Science attempts to tell us we are nothing MORE than organic organisms that "evolved" to the state of humankind today. THEY BOTH TAKE THE FOCUS OFF THE REAL QUESTIONS.


If my ideas were really a method of control then why would I be telling you to do your own will and no others. I'm saying to never ever do something someone else tells you to do unless you choose to. If you ask someone or suggest someone to do something do not punish them if the choose not to accept your suggestion.

Do NOT do what I tell you to do, do NOT do what anyone tells you to do without first consulting your own mind. Take all your knowledge about the subject into consideration and then decide what you want to do without fear of retribution.

How can one be controlled if they adhere to these beliefs?

I believe your will is given to you by God, and yourself. Do your own will and you'll be doing God's will.


First off OP, you TOTALLY missed my point.

YOU MUST START AT THE SUPERNATURAL/SPIRITUAL to understand the state of the world NOW, or at any point in time in History.

To answer your question... You must consider WHERE the knowledge comes from that is applied to the given situation.

Then you must consider that CONTROL OF THE MASSES IS BASED UPON FEAR AND RETRIBUTION. End of story.

Just review ALL HISTORY up to the present day and you will see that this is the case. For example, if Iran doesn't stop working with nuclear components, they will receive retribution. Certainly they could decide to do what they want, but they will be punished and are being punished.

The ESSENCE OF EVIL CONTROLLING THE MASSES IS FEAR AND THE ULTIMATE PUNISHMENT: DEATH. Again, End of Story.

" If my ideas were really a method of control then why would I be telling you to do your own will and no others. I'm saying to never ever do something someone else tells you to do unless you choose to. If you ask someone or suggest someone to do something do not punish them if the choose not to accept your suggestion.

Do NOT do what I tell you to do, do NOT do what anyone tells you to do without first consulting your own mind. Take all your knowledge about the subject into consideration and then decide what you want to do without fear of retribution.

How can one be controlled if they adhere to these beliefs?

I believe your will is given to you by God, and yourself. Do your own will and you'll be doing God's will. "


That is the best summary I have seen written, could not have said it any better myself....


Now the trick is to spread that truth....

Question;

What's the end game?
Where are they going with us?
Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?


End Game is just the end of the current game...the end of the Roman empire was the end of that game, the end of the way things are today is the end of this game and the start of another. This one seems a bit bigger, but they get bigger and smaller all the time. This time they shift the red/blue powers, they shift the middle east powers, and they shift the race powers(been hearing about race wars coming up) This time they're calling it a Pole Shift.

They're going back to the same place they came from, things might look a bit different, boarders will be redrawn but ultimately the aristocracy will be in power and the rest of us will still hate eachother (Divide and conquer the pleebs are divided against eachother and the rich conquer)

They do not have 'alien' rulers like you might think. They often refer to themselves as aliens because they truly believe they are a greater race of beings, not human like us but smarter and stronger and better(not true of course but they think so, really just like Hitler) They didn't need aliens to help them conquer us, they conquered us eons ago when we thought the 10 square mile pond we lived near was the whole world, it was like taking candy from a baby. Originally they were shaman types and magicians. They wowed people by throwing clay rocks into lakes and turning them a bit red, they did this up stream so people couldn't see them. The slaves thought this was magic and worshiped them as Gods. They pull the same tricks today, I know how UFO's fly and I'll post that in a bit, it's incredibly simple you're gonna kick yourself for not figuring it out.



How can they hide themselves so well?

Like, we eat cloned animals...People don't know.
Flouride is worse for you than good, and people don't know.
Sept 11 was an inside job, and people are just starting to know...if that.
4/20/10 was an inside job, and no one cares.

How can this secret go on?

And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times?

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?



They started before sumeria only much much smaller, I don't currently know of any named tribes before that time period so I didn't mention, but I did mention it started with shaman types and tribal leaders, they were all just liars.

They hide it right in front of your face, it's too obvious to be true, just like you said for the rest of those things, fluoride and whatnot. They refresh the system before the populace is fully ready to wake up, using their market research to determine what percentage of the population is becoming aware. GLP is one of those tools.
The Gold is what they use as money, they used it originally and still use it today. People love gold for some reason and they know that. It's in very short supply so it's easy for them to hold onto and keep track of.

You are God and God created you and your brain, think about it and you are praying to God, you are asking God.



Aaahhh... I see OP that you have bought into the "new age" "eastern mindset" of believing the MAIN LIE OF THE SERPENT namely that you or something else IS GOD.

THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.

And it is NOT YOU.

DID YOU CREATE YOURSELF?????

That is what you are saying in your quote!

Your brain IS NOT YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS. It is your "CPU."

You are sadly mislead... There IS A CREATOR, Almighty God, who is NOT the God of War, of Death, of Famine, of Pestilence, of Anger, of Blood Sacrifice, of Fear, of Control.

And by thinking that you are HE, you are breaking HIS ONE AND ONLY LAW.

If you want to really understand what is going on in the world today and all down through history, visit this website which spells it out as plainly as can possibly be: [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]

if you are aware... when you reach the crossroads there are two choices:

if you pick the road to destruction, you get 'rewards' of power positions or money or fame on this planet... reincarnated.

if you pick the road to life, you surrender your ego you ascend... you get off this planet

The Illuminati are the souls that reincarnated and are aware in their next reincarnation... but did not ascend.

The rest of the people that live on the planet are unawakened souls... or starseeds trying to wake them up.

Prison planet earth is a soul recycling machine with a harvest every 6000 years.

In addition to that yes there is one God. We are complex multi cellular organisms. He is what I like to call MC2 or a multi-complex multi cellular organism. God's brain is made up of mankind. Each human being makes up one individual neuron in God's brain. The rest of the universe makes up the various parts of God's body.

In addition to that yes there is one God. We are complex multi cellular organisms. He is what I like to call MC2 or a multi-complex multi cellular organism. God's brain is made up of mankind. Each human being makes up one individual neuron in God's brain. The rest of the universe makes up the various parts of God's body.


Sadly OP, you are WRONG.

Again, if you really WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH, visit this website and get educated: [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]

These leaders were in fact agents of the falling empires rulers

You are God and God created you and your brain, think about it and you are praying to God, you are asking God.



Aaahhh... I see OP that you have bought into the "new age" "eastern mindset" of believing the MAIN LIE OF THE SERPENT namely that you or something else IS GOD.

THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.

And it is NOT YOU.

DID YOU CREATE YOURSELF?????

That is what you are saying in your quote!

Your brain IS NOT YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS. It is your "CPU."

You are sadly mislead... There IS A CREATOR, Almighty God, who is NOT the God of War, of Death, of Famine, of Pestilence, of Anger, of Blood Sacrifice, of Fear, of Control.

And by thinking that you are HE, you are breaking HIS ONE AND ONLY LAW.

If you want to really understand what is going on in the world today and all down through history, visit this website which spells it out as plainly as can possibly be: [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]

These leaders were in fact agents of the falling empires rulers

EXACTLY.

NO ron paul
NO jesse venture
NO ...

You are God and God created you and your brain, think about it and you are praying to God, you are asking God.



Aaahhh... I see OP that you have bought into the "new age" "eastern mindset" of believing the MAIN LIE OF THE SERPENT namely that you or something else IS GOD.

THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.

And it is NOT YOU.

DID YOU CREATE YOURSELF?????

That is what you are saying in your quote!

Your brain IS NOT YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS. It is your "CPU."

You are sadly mislead... There IS A CREATOR, Almighty God, who is NOT the God of War, of Death, of Famine, of Pestilence, of Anger, of Blood Sacrifice, of Fear, of Control.

And by thinking that you are HE, you are breaking HIS ONE AND ONLY LAW.

If you want to really understand what is going on in the world today and all down through history, visit this website which spells it out as plainly as can possibly be: [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]


Ok I see this from the site you listed:

1 When thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and shall cast out many nations before thee, the Hittite, and the Girgashite, and the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;
2 and when thy God shall deliver them up before thee, and thou shalt smite them; then thou shalt utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them;
3 neither shalt thou make marriages with them: thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
4 For he will turn away thy son from following Me, that they may serve other gods; so will the anger of thy God be kindled against you, and He will destroy thee quickly.

And to me this clearly says when you see nations arise that are greater than you you should not join them for they are false Gods. That is part of what I'm saying here.

In scientific terms what is the formula for humanity to create a society based in free will?

" If my ideas were really a method of control then why would I be telling you to do your own will and no others. I'm saying to never ever do something someone else tells you to do unless you choose to. If you ask someone or suggest someone to do something do not punish them if the choose not to accept your suggestion.

Do NOT do what I tell you to do, do NOT do what anyone tells you to do without first consulting your own mind. Take all your knowledge about the subject into consideration and then decide what you want to do without fear of retribution.

How can one be controlled if they adhere to these beliefs?

I believe your will is given to you by God, and yourself. Do your own will and you'll be doing God's will. "


That is the best summary I have seen written, could not have said it any better myself....


Now the trick is to spread that truth....

In scientific terms what is the formula for humanity to create a society based in free will?


Here's your answer, although it's probably not the answer you are looking for...

[link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]

Sorry OP, you're not there yet.

"Elites" are nothing but upper class slaves. They're not the masters of this world, merely puppets. You have to look beyond them to see the real enslavers, the hidden hand. And they are not human.


You're clearly trying to hide the obvious. No it's not the ones that look like they're enslaving you it's something else you can't see or define clearly...

Edit: Also no one is commenting on the Anti-Christ portion of this. I know many don't like that stuff but the upper class is a hum dinger for the AC, they're the exact opposite of the character described as Christ.


You're getting CLOSER... but not there YET.

It DOES have to do with spirituality, but not like you think.

Sorry to burst your spiritual bubble, and that of anyone else's, and I too was shocked to discover this as well, but it is the TRUTH:

"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
- Pope Leo X.
ALL RELIGIONS ARE TOOLS OF THE RULERS TO CONTROL THE MASSES.


There is no ONE specific person who will be an "anti-christ" that is just subterfuge to lead people on an endless goose chase while THEY work behind the scenes to create MORE CONTROL.

IF you go back in time and study history, ALL RULERS WERE GODS. As they died and were replaced by their progeny, their "legend" became the "story" of the "god."

There is ONE CHIEF ENTITY or Spirit if you will, who has reincarnated over and over and over ad infinitum from the beginning of time as the CHEIF RULER... and has split off spiritually into other "tribes" to be the King/Ruler... ALL WITH THE SAME AGENDA.

You can visibly see the manifestation of Evil on this planet by the actions taken by the RULING CLASS. You can see it ALL DOWN THROUGH HISTORY TO THE PRESENT DAY.

You CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AT HAND WITHOUT LOOKING TO THE SUPERNATURAL and understanding THIS IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE SITUATION.

I"m not talking Religion here; I am talking PURE SPIRIT ENERGY. The essence of the question: WHO am I?? WHAT is MY CONSCIOUSNESS?? Science knows it is NOT the Brain. So WHAT is IT?? IT IS SPIRIT. WHERE did it COME FROM?? Is there ONLY ONE KIND OF SPIRIT???

Once you begin looking at the situation from this point of view, you begin to understand the nature of what is REALLY GOING ON.

It is for this VERY REASON that Religion was conceived to confuse and mislead the masses. It is for this very reason that Science attempts to tell us we are nothing MORE than organic organisms that "evolved" to the state of humankind today. THEY BOTH TAKE THE FOCUS OFF THE REAL QUESTIONS.

In scientific terms what is the formula for humanity to create a society based in free will?

So is it "is" "are" or "was"


I mean you dont seem very confident if you know who we are.

Very interesting and eye opening. So the illuminati plan on keeping us working till forever or what? Its a big universe out there or so it seems. Do they ever plan on getting us off this rock?

Sorry OP, you're not there yet.

"Elites" are nothing but upper class slaves. They're not the masters of this world, merely puppets. You have to look beyond them to see the real enslavers, the hidden hand. And they are not human.


You're clearly trying to hide the obvious. No it's not the ones that look like they're enslaving you it's something else you can't see or define clearly...

Edit: Also no one is commenting on the Anti-Christ portion of this. I know many don't like that stuff but the upper class is a hum dinger for the AC, they're the exact opposite of the character described as Christ.


You're getting CLOSER... but not there YET.

It DOES have to do with spirituality, but not like you think.

Sorry to burst your spiritual bubble, and that of anyone else's, and I too was shocked to discover this as well, but it is the TRUTH:

"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"
- Pope Leo X.
ALL RELIGIONS ARE TOOLS OF THE RULERS TO CONTROL THE MASSES.


There is no ONE specific person who will be an "anti-christ" that is just subterfuge to lead people on an endless goose chase while THEY work behind the scenes to create MORE CONTROL.

IF you go back in time and study history, ALL RULERS WERE GODS. As they died and were replaced by their progeny, their "legend" became the "story" of the "god."

There is ONE CHIEF ENTITY or Spirit if you will, who has reincarnated over and over and over ad infinitum from the beginning of time as the CHEIF RULER... and has split off spiritually into other "tribes" to be the King/Ruler... ALL WITH THE SAME AGENDA.

You can visibly see the manifestation of Evil on this planet by the actions taken by the RULING CLASS. You can see it ALL DOWN THROUGH HISTORY TO THE PRESENT DAY.

You CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AT HAND WITHOUT LOOKING TO THE SUPERNATURAL and understanding THIS IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE SITUATION.

I"m not talking Religion here; I am talking PURE SPIRIT ENERGY. The essence of the question: WHO am I?? WHAT is MY CONSCIOUSNESS?? Science knows it is NOT the Brain. So WHAT is IT?? IT IS SPIRIT. WHERE did it COME FROM?? Is there ONLY ONE KIND OF SPIRIT???

Once you begin looking at the situation from this point of view, you begin to understand the nature of what is REALLY GOING ON.

It is for this VERY REASON that Religion was conceived to confuse and mislead the masses. It is for this very reason that Science attempts to tell us we are nothing MORE than organic organisms that "evolved" to the state of humankind today. THEY BOTH TAKE THE FOCUS OFF THE REAL QUESTIONS.



That quote comes from a play that was written where the character of the pope Leo said that line. This is not an actual quote from pope Leo - although I would agree with the sentiment that all churches and organized religions are false.

Question;

What's the end game?
Where are they going with us?
Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?


End Game is just the end of the current game...the end of the Roman empire was the end of that game, the end of the way things are today is the end of this game and the start of another. This one seems a bit bigger, but they get bigger and smaller all the time. This time they shift the red/blue powers, they shift the middle east powers, and they shift the race powers(been hearing about race wars coming up) This time they're calling it a Pole Shift.

They're going back to the same place they came from, things might look a bit different, boarders will be redrawn but ultimately the aristocracy will be in power and the rest of us will still hate eachother (Divide and conquer the pleebs are divided against eachother and the rich conquer)

They do not have 'alien' rulers like you might think. They often refer to themselves as aliens because they truly believe they are a greater race of beings, not human like us but smarter and stronger and better(not true of course but they think so, really just like Hitler) They didn't need aliens to help them conquer us, they conquered us eons ago when we thought the 10 square mile pond we lived near was the whole world, it was like taking candy from a baby. Originally they were shaman types and magicians. They wowed people by throwing clay rocks into lakes and turning them a bit red, they did this up stream so people couldn't see them. The slaves thought this was magic and worshiped them as Gods. They pull the same tricks today, I know how UFO's fly and I'll post that in a bit, it's incredibly simple you're gonna kick yourself for not figuring it out.

So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?

So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?

In scientific terms what is the formula for humanity to create a society based in free will?


Here's your answer, although it's probably not the answer you are looking for...

[link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]



Trollin' hard.


I went to your link... saw Deuteronomy and closed the window. I figure that if a god is really that concerned with the actions of his children.. he will let them know, personally. I refuse to take someone elses world (bible) as truth as it relates to MY eternal soul.. and it feels good. I am responsible for myself..

I don't know if it is correct, but I know it feels right.