So you want to know who the 'Illuminati' is or are...was

Now the God part, he didn't create the Universe as much as assemble it.
-Adam

well who created it then?

So, are you saying that the illuminati were responsible for the Sumerian empire?


I would imagine the people responsible for that either evolved into what you consider the illuminati or were conquered by a people that later evolved into what you consider the illuminati. Either way the ideas the masses live their life by today are extremely dated.

It might also be good to note that ultimately it's not the people who wield power that traveled from sumeria to today but their ideas of how life should be lived, which is in bondage.


So...Let's say that I consider myself to be a descendant of Humbaba, the man the Sumerian's considered to be a demon and whom Gilgamesh and Enkidu murdered in his home and who's trees they cut down in his Forest.

Would that mean that the Illuminati are my sworn enemies and that I have to pursue them without restraint until every one of them is dead, along with their loved ones?

Does it mean that no amount of PR or explanations as to who they are should be considered and that death by torture and humiliation is the only reasonable course of action?

Watch this movie:

[link to www.imdb.com]

Then understand the Illuminati are similar to Ra's al Ghul, except they pull the strings and make it happen, as instructed by God!

The Illuminati actually have a Playbook, with the entire history of Us already written. But it is a simple outline, not absolute and precise.

Ribbit



I think I am working with much better information. I suppose then that would explain why all their shit is on hold; as per the offer thread that inspired this thread.

Their playbook with the history is now obsolete. Sweet.

I've got the only Throne actually worth something.

Kiss your asses goodbye.

Sorry I must have missed this, I'm trying to get everyone's questions in.


1. What's the end game? I believe the game is played to win, the end is when someone wins and God is going to win, this is the end game.

2. Where are they going with us? Not sure what you mean by they, probably the illuminati and if that's the case the answer is nowhere, this stops now.

3. Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to? I suppose you could call my explanation of God alien rulers since they come from another Universe. Even now we have people that have intelligence types that can deceive and intelligence types that are not so good at such things. It was the same then only with less knowledge to impress a population of people one need only create a fire and call himself magical.

4. How can they hide themselves so well? There is no limit to Human ingenuity, we were created by and indeed are the most powerful intelligent force in the Universe.

5. How can this secret go on? It won't, it's being outted now.

6. And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times? Going to refer you to my answer in number 3. Actually I'll add another example. I would imagine using a log as a lever to tumble a large rock down a small cliff and crush a hut was enough to impress our early ancestors.

7. Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose? People want gold. If you have something someone wants really bad you can make them do almost anything. Ever seen a klondike bar commercial? Okay that was a joke, but seriously some people will do the craziest things for something they think will make them rich and famous.

Now the God part, he didn't create the Universe as much as assemble it.
-Adam

well who created it then?


Kinda how one might say they created a cell phone or gingerbread house, though they did not actually create the atoms that makeup those things.

As Einstein stated matter is neither created nor destroyed and if that rings true, I believe it does, than the matter that makes up the universe was always here and always will be there is simply no beginning or end to that it is infinite. That which is, was, and always will be.

The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state.

What you at the bottom or employees call civilization.

since it's absolute capitalistic...It survives by taking more than it gives.

The top or employers of the enterprise grow richer in power by taking more power from the bottom than they give to the bottom while the bottom grows poorer in power buy giving more power to the top than they take from the top.

once the top has sucked the bottom dry...the enterprise cannibalizes itself and implodes.

All the enterprise is designed to do is take more than it gives until it can no longer.

The logical conclusion of the choice to take more than you give is collapse.

An example is needing to chop down trees to power your enterprise.

chopping down trees faster than they regrow is taking more than you give.

You need to chop down trees or your enterprise collapses.

But if you are chopping down trees faster than they regrow the collapse is inevitable when you run out of the required amount of trees.

So the only way to avoid reaching the logical conclusion of the choice to take more than you give is to choose to not take more than you give.

The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state can do is inflate to maximum potential then implode.

If you try to avoid reaching the maximum potential and imploding by choosing to stop taking more than you give...that is maximum potential and you just implode sooner rather than later.

The top know that this enterprise is inevitably doomed to inflate to maximum potential and implode.

The top teach you all how to read write do math and how to think.

You all at the bottom are totally oblivious.

All money is decreed money...fiat...

The top says this is money...Or else...period end of story....

You Farmer are on the Land owned by the LORD of the land and will pay tribute to the LORD of 1 Gold coin a year...

Where do I get this GOLD coin?

You can take one short ton of grain to the grainery of the LORD and there you will be given a GOLD coin for it and then you can give the gold coin to the servant of the LORD...

What if I refuse?

Then the LORD will drive you from the Land that the LORD is the LORD of...

There you go an abundant supply of free food to power your wildest hopes and dreams...Lies and delusions...

22 And the LORD said, Behold! The man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and also take from the Tree of Life, and eat, and live forever,
23 The LORD sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground out of which he was taken.
24 And He drove the man out. And He lodged the cherubs at the east of the Garden of Eden, and the flaming sword whirling around to guard the way of the Tree of Life.

Well what is done with all that Food the tillers of the LORD's land give the LORD as Tribute?

It powers the Absolute capitalist Hierarchial food powered make work enterprise...

The city state...Or Civilization...

Money is a food substitute...food is power.

The medium of exchange is power.

Allow me to take more of another's power than I give to them and I care not who makes or breaks the rules of the game you are all playing.

Eventually the power will be sucked from the hands of the many into the hands of the few or one.

Then they who have the power will make or break the rules of the game you all are playing.

Human beings have no power to make or break LAW.

All that Human beings have the power to do is make and break rules and call the rules LAW.

But if the rules attempt to break LAW...LAW will break the rules.

Human beings have no power to create or destroy Truth.

All that Human beings have the power to do is create and destroy lies and call the lies Truth.

But if the lies attempt to destroy Truth...Truth will destroy the lies.

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state or what you all call civilization is ultimately a war machines that id fighting Truth.

It's a lie and lies require ever grater power to sustain their continued existence.

The top or employer sucks power from the bottom to sustain the lie...It's what the top hires the bottom to do...fight Truth.

Eventually the lie fighting Truth requires infinite and indestructible power to sustain it's continued existence fighting Truth...but the only source of infinite and indestructible power is Truth...So when the lie requires Truth to sustain it's continued existence...that is revelation and the lie fighting Truth that is masquerading as Truth loses power and self destructs.

That is why the economy is collapsing.

It can no longer take more than it gives because the bottom or employees of the enterprise have reached their maximum potential to sustain the war against Truth.

The collapse is the lie which is the enterprise self destructing because the employees can not supply the top or employers with the required amount of power to sustain the continued existence of the enterprise which is the lie fighting Truth.

The top know this...you all are oblivious of it.

due to the just think positive ignore the negative religion.

The embrace fantasy reject reality equation.

The embrace lies and delusion reject Truth equation at the core of your drone reasoning algorithm.

A delusion is a lie you tell yourself...over time you fall in love with it and cherish it...You all will fight to the death to protect that which you cherish.

The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state is a mass delusion you all have fallen deeply in love with.

Due to the The embrace/love lies and delusion reject/fear Truth equation at the core of your drone reasoning algorithm.

You all are continually in search of something you don't want to find.

you all are constantly seeking salvation from Truth.

For 1000's of years now.

Taking more than you give is plunder...

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."--Frederic Bastiat

Glorifies and cherishes it.

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

The devout followers of the Just think positive ignore the negative religion keep telling me...

If you put your mind to it there is nothing that is impossible.

If at first you don't succeed try try again.

You all have been try try trying again to defeat Truth with lies for 1000's and 1000's of years now.

You all are running in terror from that which you are inevitably going to smash into.

The logical conclusion of the take more than you give equation is the reaching of the maximum potential of taking more than you give or collapse.

If you try to avoid reaching the logical conclusion by stopping the taking of more than you give...you collapse and if you continue to take more than you give until you can't any more...you collapse.

The only way to avoid the logical conclusion of the take more than you give equation is to choose to not take more than you give.

But since it's all you know how to do...and it is the path of least resistance....the top have very little trouble helping you all make the decision when it's time.

When the enterprise implodes you all will hack your selves to pieces trying to reacquire what you never had to begin with or acquire what you never will.

Salvation from Truth.

The top will of course hire the survivors to construct and power the next lie to it's logical conclusion.

You're close OP, but the Universe doesn't
simply contract and expand in a linear cycle.
It functions as a perfect polarity (+) & (-)
Torus as explained through Vortex mathematics.
It's an uninterrupted bound infinity which is
double circuited & constantly moves and evolves
~ Recycling everything that enters the black hole
into the white.

Very interesting and eye opening. So the illuminati plan on keeping us working till forever or what? Its a big universe out there or so it seems. Do they ever plan on getting us off this rock?


It is a big universe and they start plans hundreds of years in advance, remember they and their ancestors have been doing this for thousands upon thousands of years and have become exceedingly good at it. I would imagine the next big shake up they're planning will move us to other planets. In fact this shake up is probably so big because they're getting things setup for the next big change.

The top or employers of the enterprise grow richer in power by taking more power from the bottom than they give to the bottom while the bottom grows poorer in power buy giving more power to the top than they take from the top.

I'm afraid OP and many like him
still see things in black and white..
us and them. We're living in a grand
illusion of separation and duality.
Learn to intone the name of the most
high through mathematics and sacred
geometry (they are in fact living systems and
the fractal nature of god/man), then you'll
begin to see.

I'm afraid OP and many like him
still see things in black and white..
us and them. We're living in a grand
illusion of separation and duality.
Learn to intone the name of the most
high through mathematics and sacred
geometry (they are in fact living systems and
the fractal nature of god/man), then you'll
begin to see.

The top or employers of the enterprise grow richer in power by taking more power from the bottom than they give to the bottom while the bottom grows poorer in power buy giving more power to the top than they take from the top.


So by turning the pyramid upside down
Making all people take more than they give
Hereby imploding the bottom layers of the pyramid
Making a new suicide cult religion
Making the top of the pyramid the ONLY layer of the pyramid Making the pyramid a square instead
I don't see why the top inhabitants would kill them selfs
But at this paste it really seams they are suicidal

they believe that their genetics have been corrupted - watered down - by breeding with the goyim -

Why if they are so superior to the goyim are they in general so much less attractive. Big noses, pointy teeth, tongues always darting out of their mouths, short and without much athletic ability?

You are God and God created you and your brain, think about it and you are praying to God, you are asking God.



Aaahhh... I see OP that you have bought into the "new age" "eastern mindset" of believing the MAIN LIE OF THE SERPENT namely that you or something else IS GOD.

THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.

And it is NOT YOU.

DID YOU CREATE YOURSELF?????

That is what you are saying in your quote!

Your brain IS NOT YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS. It is your "CPU."

You are sadly mislead... There IS A CREATOR, Almighty God, who is NOT the God of War, of Death, of Famine, of Pestilence, of Anger, of Blood Sacrifice, of Fear, of Control.

And by thinking that you are HE, you are breaking HIS ONE AND ONLY LAW.

If you want to really understand what is going on in the world today and all down through history, visit this website which spells it out as plainly as can possibly be: [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]

does the illuminati have a working relationship with Shields Christenson Management Group of Lake Forest and/or Tim Christenson?

In actuality it might seem that what the people at the top of the pyramid have done is quite horrid, but they have only committed the very same evils that every other individual has. Everyone committed the crime of stealing free wills (souls) and everyone is equally to blame for this mess.

I feel now is a good time to mention that I am in no way shape or form trying to foment anger towards the upper class or illuminati, my last paragraph states clearly that we are all equally guilty no one any more or less than another. To punish the illuminati for a crime you as well committed is hypocracy.

I'm afraid OP and many like him
still see things in black and white..
us and them. We're living in a grand
illusion of separation and duality.
Learn to intone the name of the most
high through mathematics and sacred
geometry (they are in fact living systems and
the fractal nature of god/man), then you'll
begin to see.



BIG THUMBS UP ILLUMINATED ONE !

they think darkly and always want to fight and hate someone. they cannot see the Light and the connection and the Hope and Purpose.

Now the God part, he didn't create the Universe as much as assemble it.
-Adam

well who created it then?


Kinda how one might say they created a cell phone or gingerbread house, though they did not actually create the atoms that makeup those things.

As Einstein stated matter is neither created nor destroyed and if that rings true, I believe it does, than the matter that makes up the universe was always here and always will be there is simply no beginning or end to that it is infinite. That which is, was, and always will be.

You are God and God created you and your brain, think about it and you are praying to God, you are asking God.



Aaahhh... I see OP that you have bought into the "new age" "eastern mindset" of believing the MAIN LIE OF THE SERPENT namely that you or something else IS GOD.

THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.

And it is NOT YOU.

DID YOU CREATE YOURSELF?????

That is what you are saying in your quote!

Your brain IS NOT YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS. It is your "CPU."

You are sadly mislead... There IS A CREATOR, Almighty God, who is NOT the God of War, of Death, of Famine, of Pestilence, of Anger, of Blood Sacrifice, of Fear, of Control.

And by thinking that you are HE, you are breaking HIS ONE AND ONLY LAW.

If you want to really understand what is going on in the world today and all down through history, visit this website which spells it out as plainly as can possibly be: [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]



wrong. You need to go to a bible thread...

In actuality it might seem that what the people at the top of the pyramid have done is quite horrid, but they have only committed the very same evils that every other individual has. Everyone committed the crime of stealing free wills (souls) and everyone is equally to blame for this mess.

I feel now is a good time to mention that I am in no way shape or form trying to foment anger towards the upper class or illuminati, my last paragraph states clearly that we are all equally guilty no one any more or less than another. To punish the illuminati for a crime you as well committed is hypocracy.


EXCUSE ME????????

I don't take people's FREE WILL or SOULS, and NEVER HAVE.

HOW DARE YOU PASS JUDGEMENT ON ME?!!

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.

I HAVE NOTHING TO BE PUNISHED FOR, BUT THE SEED OF THE SERPENT WILL NOT ONLY BE PUNISHED, IT WILL BE eliminated.

You are God and God created you and your brain, think about it and you are praying to God, you are asking God.



Aaahhh... I see OP that you have bought into the "new age" "eastern mindset" of believing the MAIN LIE OF THE SERPENT namely that you or something else IS GOD.

THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.

And it is NOT YOU.

DID YOU CREATE YOURSELF?????

That is what you are saying in your quote!

Your brain IS NOT YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS. It is your "CPU."

You are sadly mislead... There IS A CREATOR, Almighty God, who is NOT the God of War, of Death, of Famine, of Pestilence, of Anger, of Blood Sacrifice, of Fear, of Control.

And by thinking that you are HE, you are breaking HIS ONE AND ONLY LAW.

If you want to really understand what is going on in the world today and all down through history, visit this website which spells it out as plainly as can possibly be: [link to www.lionofjeshurun.com]



wrong. You need to go to a bible thread...


Your comments only show how little you know and how badly you've been BRAINWASHED.

Don't you KNOW that RELIGIOUS RITUAL is PART AND PARCEL of what the Ruling Class have done all throughout HISTORY?

WHY IS IT that EVERY head of state that is part of the NWO is ALSO A KNIGHT OF MALTA, AND PLEDGED TO THE VATICAN?????

Is Reza Pahlavi the leader of the illuminati or is he just a member?