So you want to know who the 'Illuminati' is or are...was

Yes indeed Throne, can I call you Throne? I too realize that had I been born in different shoes I could easily be someone else. Anyone could've been born into the ruling class and that's what they'd become because their parents and peers is how they learned how to live. Had I been born in gangland I'd very likely be in an inner city gang. The same goes for all of us. It is God who choses who is born where.

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should be May i call you...i think you're a fake..
and you seem to be ignoring me.. come speak some truth you all up in the 'know'.. tells how they pull all this off. keep all that status going. you know i know don't you... i've seen them in action. yall slipping if i can bust your ass..


Not trying to ignore you, have you asked me a question?

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


i think that's just rothschild's particular area of expertise -
he owns/runs the 'metal exchange' in london - i.e. all metals are owned by him

other ones probably own water, others food etc
.

Water can be found in a lake and you can drink it.

Gold can also be found around the Earth - but not in the same fashion.

He's collecting gold for a reason.

...there's ALWAYS a reason...


I believe it's because people want it. It's like holding someones kid for ransom. As long as you have what someone wants really bad you can get them to do anything.

Sorry OP, you're not there yet.

"Elites" are nothing but upper class slaves. They're not the masters of this world, merely puppets. You have to look beyond them to see the real enslavers, the hidden hand. And they are not human.


You're clearly trying to hide the obvious. No it's not the ones that look like they're enslaving you it's something else you can't see or define clearly...

Edit: Also no one is commenting on the Anti-Christ portion of this. I know many don't like that stuff but the upper class is a hum dinger for the AC, they're the exact opposite of the character described as Christ.



The roles of the rich and poor will be reversed.

so? how does that relate to Christ being rich as balls?

I can assure you I do not have two pennies to rub together.



I'm still not following why this means Christ wasn't rich as balls.


You are absolutely free to believe whatever you want to believe. I know how much money I have.


Ugh. Goddamnit, do you think you're Christ? Fuck off.

so to break the chains of bond...

I am willing to give up of owning anything\nor do i care to own anything.

I want nothing from them, they offer me nothing i want.


so I guess i will crawl in hole and be all by myself?


Go hide in the mountains...since this will continue to go for eons, being a slave?


Am sick and tired of this crap of some one who thinks they can lay laws over me..how do i break the chains and run away?


Follow me. You will need no cave, unless you like the idea. Many will follow and therefore you will be able to stay where ever you like. Even the web-bot mentioned this. Empty office buildings no longer in use, you can sleep there if you like. Sleep in a house...no such thing as a deed just pick an empty spot and go to town.

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


i think that's just rothschild's particular area of expertise -
he owns/runs the 'metal exchange' in london - i.e. all metals are owned by him

other ones probably own water, others food etc
.

Water can be found in a lake and you can drink it.

Gold can also be found around the Earth - but not in the same fashion.

He's collecting gold for a reason.

...there's ALWAYS a reason...


I believe it's because people want it. It's like holding someones kid for ransom. As long as you have what someone wants really bad you can get them to do anything.



so lose the wants and no one controls me?

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


i think that's just rothschild's particular area of expertise -
he owns/runs the 'metal exchange' in london - i.e. all metals are owned by him

other ones probably own water, others food etc
.

Water can be found in a lake and you can drink it.

Gold can also be found around the Earth - but not in the same fashion.

He's collecting gold for a reason.

...there's ALWAYS a reason...


I believe it's because people want it. It's like holding someones kid for ransom. As long as you have what someone wants really bad you can get them to do anything.

All the golf being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold..



so lose the wants and no one controls me?

so to break the chains of bond...

I am willing to give up of owning anything\nor do i care to own anything.

I want nothing from them, they offer me nothing i want.


so I guess i will crawl in hole and be all by myself?


Go hide in the mountains...since this will continue to go for eons, being a slave?


Am sick and tired of this crap of some one who thinks they can lay laws over me..how do i break the chains and run away?


Follow me. You will need no cave, unless you like the idea. Many will follow and therefore you will be able to stay where ever you like. Even the web-bot mentioned this. Empty office buildings no longer in use, you can sleep there if you like. Sleep in a house...no such thing as a deed just pick an empty spot and go to town.

this could be very true.. the ponza game about to fold like an over used dollar.. 0bama can't keep none of it up. he has to much dirt on him.

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


i think that's just rothschild's particular area of expertise -
he owns/runs the 'metal exchange' in london - i.e. all metals are owned by him

other ones probably own water, others food etc
.

Water can be found in a lake and you can drink it.

Gold can also be found around the Earth - but not in the same fashion.

He's collecting gold for a reason.

...there's ALWAYS a reason...


I believe it's because people want it. It's like holding someones kid for ransom. As long as you have what someone wants really bad you can get them to do anything.

All the golf being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold..



so lose the wants and no one controls me?

so to break the chains of bond...

I am willing to give up of owning anything\nor do i care to own anything.

I want nothing from them, they offer me nothing i want.


so I guess i will crawl in hole and be all by myself?


Go hide in the mountains...since this will continue to go for eons, being a slave?


Am sick and tired of this crap of some one who thinks they can lay laws over me..how do i break the chains and run away?


Follow me. You will need no cave, unless you like the idea. Many will follow and therefore you will be able to stay where ever you like. Even the web-bot mentioned this. Empty office buildings no longer in use, you can sleep there if you like. Sleep in a house...no such thing as a deed just pick an empty spot and go to town.

this could be very true.. the ponza game about to fold like an over used dollar.. 0bama can't keep none of it up. he has to much dirt on him.


I'm not so sure they want to. I do not know them, but it is entirely possible that they are aware of my presence and already know that it's all over. If that is the case they know this will be the most peaceful thing that has ever happened in human history.

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


i think that's just rothschild's particular area of expertise -
he owns/runs the 'metal exchange' in london - i.e. all metals are owned by him

other ones probably own water, others food etc
.

Water can be found in a lake and you can drink it.

Gold can also be found around the Earth - but not in the same fashion.

He's collecting gold for a reason.

...there's ALWAYS a reason...


I believe it's because people want it. It's like holding someones kid for ransom. As long as you have what someone wants really bad you can get them to do anything.

All the golf being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold..



so lose the wants and no one controls me?


All the golD being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold.. these looms are really Satan worshipers..AKA Allah.. who offers a worldly rule.. it all comes from the same source = Satan aka Evil..

Sorry OP, you're not there yet.

"Elites" are nothing but upper class slaves. They're not the masters of this world, merely puppets. You have to look beyond them to see the real enslavers, the hidden hand. And they are not human.


[link to www.holyhealthy.com]

I'll add a bit more. First off, guess who owns all the publication firms, upper class...TV stations, upper class, internet service providers, upper class...Take a look at your government:
Nancy Pelosi - upper class
Al Gore - upper class
Barak Obama - upper class
G Dubya - upper class
G Dub senior - upper class

What about your celebrities:
Mel Gibson - upper class
Jonny Depp - upper class
George Lucas - upper class
the list goes on obviously

Here's a good one for ya. Doesn't this all sound a bit like perhaps the ANTI-CHRIST!!! It's really quite obvious, anti meaning antithesis meaning opposite, the old AC is the opposite of Christ. Take a look

Christ was poor, upper class is rich
Christ was humble, upper class boastful and greedy
Christ was loving, upper class spreads hate and fear
Christ was peaceful, upper class spreads war and words of war

Come on people am I getting through to anyone yet!?!?!?

Even more, if there is an Anti-Christ what does that mean...You guessed it THERE IS A GOD too, good thing he gave us a description of AC for me to post here. I'll post that a bit later though, don't wanna blow your minds to terribly much just yet, lets just let this current information seep in a bit and then we'll get to the really good stuff.

-Adam

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


i think that's just rothschild's particular area of expertise -
he owns/runs the 'metal exchange' in london - i.e. all metals are owned by him

other ones probably own water, others food etc
.

Water can be found in a lake and you can drink it.

Gold can also be found around the Earth - but not in the same fashion.

He's collecting gold for a reason.

...there's ALWAYS a reason...


I believe it's because people want it. It's like holding someones kid for ransom. As long as you have what someone wants really bad you can get them to do anything.

All the golf being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold..



so lose the wants and no one controls me?


All the golD being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold.. these looms are really Satan worshipers..AKA Allah.. who offers a worldly rule.. it all comes from the same source = Satan aka Evil..


Yep...Satan is actually God as an infant. Satan is God before he became self-aware. What's happening here is God becoming self-aware. Know thyself. Each human being is God, each Human being makes up one individual Neuron in God's brain. Satan is depicted as half man and half animal because that's what his is, halfway between God and animal. He has the body of a man and he has a mind which can ponder things, but since he's not yet self-aware he's not quite there yet. That's all changing now.

so to break the chains of bond...

I am willing to give up of owning anything\nor do i care to own anything.

I want nothing from them, they offer me nothing i want.


so I guess i will crawl in hole and be all by myself?


Go hide in the mountains...since this will continue to go for eons, being a slave?


Am sick and tired of this crap of some one who thinks they can lay laws over me..how do i break the chains and run away?


Follow me. You will need no cave, unless you like the idea. Many will follow and therefore you will be able to stay where ever you like. Even the web-bot mentioned this. Empty office buildings no longer in use, you can sleep there if you like. Sleep in a house...no such thing as a deed just pick an empty spot and go to town.

this could be very true.. the ponza game about to fold like an over used dollar.. 0bama can't keep none of it up. he has to much dirt on him.


I'm not so sure they want to. I do not know them, but it is entirely possible that they are aware of my presence and already know that it's all over. If that is the case they know this will be the most peaceful thing that has ever happened in human history.

Oh you're not one of them? You just know about how the operate on the inside.. i think a lot of people know how they operate no one will call them out. they intimidate very well.

Words cannot solve your problems. But action can. You got the talkin part done. And don't forget who taught you how to smoke trees.
The Road Runner.

I'll add a bit more. First off, guess who owns all the publication firms, upper class...TV stations, upper class, internet service providers, upper class...Take a look at your government:
Nancy Pelosi - upper class
Al Gore - upper class
Barak Obama - upper class
G Dubya - upper class
G Dub senior - upper class

What about your celebrities:
Mel Gibson - upper class
Jonny Depp - upper class
George Lucas - upper class
the list goes on obviously

Here's a good one for ya. Doesn't this all sound a bit like perhaps the ANTI-CHRIST!!! It's really quite obvious, anti meaning antithesis meaning opposite, the old AC is the opposite of Christ. Take a look

Christ was poor, upper class is rich
Christ was humble, upper class boastful and greedy
Christ was loving, upper class spreads hate and fear
Christ was peaceful, upper class spreads war and words of war

Come on people am I getting through to anyone yet!?!?!?

Even more, if there is an Anti-Christ what does that mean...You guessed it THERE IS A GOD too, good thing he gave us a description of AC for me to post here. I'll post that a bit later though, don't wanna blow your minds to terribly much just yet, lets just let this current information seep in a bit and then we'll get to the really good stuff.

-Adam


I believe the description of the AC was written by men, hundreds of years after Jesus' death. Religion is the ultimate control device used by TPTB. They don't want us to realize that WE are the ones in control of our lives.

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


i think that's just rothschild's particular area of expertise -
he owns/runs the 'metal exchange' in london - i.e. all metals are owned by him

other ones probably own water, others food etc
.

Water can be found in a lake and you can drink it.

Gold can also be found around the Earth - but not in the same fashion.

He's collecting gold for a reason.

...there's ALWAYS a reason...


I believe it's because people want it. It's like holding someones kid for ransom. As long as you have what someone wants really bad you can get them to do anything.

All the golf being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold..



so lose the wants and no one controls me?


All the golD being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold.. these looms are really Satan worshipers..AKA Allah.. who offers a worldly rule.. it all comes from the same source = Satan aka Evil..


Yep...Satan is actually God as an infant. Satan is God before he became self-aware. What's happening here is God becoming self-aware. Know thyself. Each human being is God, each Human being makes up one individual Neuron in God's brain. Satan is depicted as half man and half animal because that's what his is, halfway between God and animal. He has the body of a man and he has a mind which can ponder things, but since he's not yet self-aware he's not quite there yet. That's all changing now.



Adam, thats good ! Also ponder this, WE. we are all THE BEAST 666, the number of carbon, 6 electrons, 6 neutrons and 6 protons. Its the Life and death cycle. we must kill to eat. even herbivores, and everything grows from poop. and we eat dead meat, even vegetarians eat from what is fertilized by death. Then we grow old in a short century and die.
Carbon 666, the BEAST.

Btw, Im God in teenager phase.

lol...

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


i think that's just rothschild's particular area of expertise -
he owns/runs the 'metal exchange' in london - i.e. all metals are owned by him

other ones probably own water, others food etc
.

Water can be found in a lake and you can drink it.

Gold can also be found around the Earth - but not in the same fashion.

He's collecting gold for a reason.

...there's ALWAYS a reason...


I believe it's because people want it. It's like holding someones kid for ransom. As long as you have what someone wants really bad you can get them to do anything.

All the golf being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold..



so lose the wants and no one controls me?


All the golD being shipped over to that Saudi prince..but you can't eat gold.. these looms are really Satan worshipers..AKA Allah.. who offers a worldly rule.. it all comes from the same source = Satan aka Evil..


Yep...Satan is actually God as an infant. Satan is God before he became self-aware. What's happening here is God becoming self-aware. Know thyself. Each human being is God, each Human being makes up one individual Neuron in God's brain. Satan is depicted as half man and half animal because that's what his is, halfway between God and animal. He has the body of a man and he has a mind which can ponder things, but since he's not yet self-aware he's not quite there yet. That's all changing now.



Adam, thats good ! Also ponder this, WE. we are all THE BEAST 666, the number of carbon, 6 electrons, 6 neutrons and 6 protons. Its the Life and death cycle. we must kill to eat. even herbivores, and everything grows from poop. and we eat dead meat, even vegetarians eat from what is fertilized by death. Then we grow old in a short century and die.
Carbon 666, the BEAST.

Btw, Im God in teenager phase.

lol...


Classic! This is excellent information that I did not know. I bet the 666 references fear, fear of death. Now realize there is nothing to fear because there is a God who will help you and that when you die you will be re-born. Like I said DNA is finite, time is infinite so eventually genetic codes start to repeat, they're probably always repeating. And who knows maybe someday technology will make even that unnecessary.

Words cannot solve your problems. But action can. You got the talkin part done. And don't forget who taught you how to smoke trees.
The Road Runner.

heard that...

SIGN OF JONAH? Comet Tempel thru Cetus the Whale, Mid August.
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Comet Tempel, Origins from Father Uranus/Ouranos?

Flies thru CETUS the Whale Constellation between ETA and CETI (south-east) MID AUGUST 2010. We will not see another good return until 2026

Qoute: NASA -- Comet Tempel-1 may have been born in the region of the solar system occupied by Uranus and Neptune today, according to one possibility from an analysis of the comet's debris blasted into space by NASA's Deep Impact mission. If correct, the observation supports a wild scenario for the solar system's youth, where the planets Uranus and Neptune may have traded places and scattered comets to deep space.

Jesus SAID, "A WICKED AND ADULTEROUS GENERATION SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN, and there shall no sign be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah!" Matthew 12:39

Yep...Satan is actually God as an infant. Satan is God before he became self-aware. What's happening here is God becoming self-aware. Know thyself. Each human being is God, each Human being makes up one individual Neuron in God's brain. Satan is depicted as half man and half animal because that's what his is, halfway between God and animal. He has the body of a man and he has a mind which can ponder things, but since he's not yet self-aware he's not quite there yet. That's all changing now.
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Satan has never been a GOD. He was made into one by man..
He was only an Angel. before he was cast down to earth..
Satan has never depicted himself as anything, man has made him or preconceived him into these things.

The reason Lucifer went rebellious was becasue he had free will(at the time) and Envy .. and he used it for evil.. like man does.. maybe Lucifer was a lot like man is now before his fall to earth.

If I've skipped over anybody feel free to speak up I intend to answer everyone's questions the best I can. Believe me there are no stupid questions and in fact no stupid people. No one is stupid, but sometimes ill-informed. If someone says something you know to be false there's nothing wrong with having a good laugh if something is funny it's funny. Both you and the person who said something wrong know that there is nothing wrong with being wrong about something, it happens to everybody therefore nobody is offended by the laughter. When everyone knows God exists and all is equal there is no need to be offended to anything at all because no one can ever make you feel like less of a person or as if you are worth less to society than others because you will know for an absolute fact that is not true and you are worth every bit as much as the next guy, always were always will be.

Yep...Satan is actually God as an infant. Satan is God before he became self-aware. What's happening here is God becoming self-aware. Know thyself. Each human being is God, each Human being makes up one individual Neuron in God's brain. Satan is depicted as half man and half animal because that's what his is, halfway between God and animal. He has the body of a man and he has a mind which can ponder things, but since he's not yet self-aware he's not quite there yet. That's all changing now.
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Satan has never been a GOD. He was made into one by man..
He was only an Angel. before he was cast down to earth..
Satan has never depicted himself as anything, man has made him or preconceived him into these things.

The reason Lucifer went rebellious was becasue he had free will(at the time) and Envy .. and he used it for evil.. like man does.. maybe Lucifer was a lot like man is now before his fall to earth.


Yes we are the satan that uses their free will for evil...this is currently hell and we rule it and make it hell. Soon when all learn of God all will learn to use free will for good and presto chango darkness turns to light, evil to good, satan to God.

If I've skipped over anybody feel free to speak up I intend to answer everyone's questions the best I can. Believe me there are no stupid questions and in fact no stupid people. No one is stupid, but sometimes ill-informed. If someone says something you know to be false there's nothing wrong with having a good laugh if something is funny it's funny. Both you and the person who said something wrong know that there is nothing wrong with being wrong about something, it happens to everybody therefore nobody is offended by the laughter. When everyone knows God exists and all is equal there is no need to be offended to anything at all because no one can ever make you feel like less of a person or as if you are worth less to society than others because you will know for an absolute fact that is not true and you are worth every bit as much as the next guy, always were always will be.

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you speak some wise words. i don't beleive all of them,
i have never even read this thread..

programing is a very powerful thing. Some people were told they are not a good as others.. many beleive it.. i believed it. sometimes i still do.. that i will never be 'good enough' but i don't even know what that means.. to be 'good enough'
i only know that i'm not better than.. is that the same thing?
:)

Yep...Satan is actually God as an infant. Satan is God before he became self-aware. What's happening here is God becoming self-aware. Know thyself. Each human being is God, each Human being makes up one individual Neuron in God's brain. Satan is depicted as half man and half animal because that's what his is, halfway between God and animal. He has the body of a man and he has a mind which can ponder things, but since he's not yet self-aware he's not quite there yet. That's all changing now.
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Satan has never been a GOD. He was made into one by man..
He was only an Angel. before he was cast down to earth..
Satan has never depicted himself as anything, man has made him or preconceived him into these things.

The reason Lucifer went rebellious was becasue he had free will(at the time) and Envy .. and he used it for evil.. like man does.. maybe Lucifer was a lot like man is now before his fall to earth.


Yes we are the satan that uses their free will for evil...this is currently hell and we rule it and make it hell. Soon when all learn of God all will learn to use free will for good and presto chango darkness turns to light, evil to good, satan to God.

now you're going off the deep end.. not buying that.. Man is not Satan, Man is not God.. we have awareness of them. We may be like in actions, But we are neither..

They started before sumeria only much much smaller, I don't currently know of any named tribes before that time period so I didn't mention, but I did mention it started with shaman types and tribal leaders, they were all just liars.

They hide it right in front of your face, it's too obvious to be true, just like you said for the rest of those things, fluoride and whatnot. They refresh the system before the populace is fully ready to wake up, using their market research to determine what percentage of the population is becoming aware. GLP is one of those tools.

The Gold is what they use as money, they used it originally and still use it today. People love gold for some reason and they know that. It's in very short supply so it's easy for them to hold onto and keep track of.

If I've skipped over anybody feel free to speak up I intend to answer everyone's questions the best I can. Believe me there are no stupid questions and in fact no stupid people. No one is stupid, but sometimes ill-informed. If someone says something you know to be false there's nothing wrong with having a good laugh if something is funny it's funny. Both you and the person who said something wrong know that there is nothing wrong with being wrong about something, it happens to everybody therefore nobody is offended by the laughter. When everyone knows God exists and all is equal there is no need to be offended to anything at all because no one can ever make you feel like less of a person or as if you are worth less to society than others because you will know for an absolute fact that is not true and you are worth every bit as much as the next guy, always were always will be.

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you speak some wise words. i don't beleive all of them,
i have never even read this thread..

programing is a very powerful thing. Some people were told they are not a good as others.. many beleive it.. i believed it. sometimes i still do.. that i will never be 'good enough' but i don't even know what that means.. to be 'good enough'
i only know that i'm not better than.. is that the same thing?
:)


I'm not sure if I'd call it the same thing. Its good to know you're not better than, but if you don't know no one else is better than either than you are doing yourself a grave disservice. In fact you are doing all of us a disservice because we want/need you to be in good health and happy. Long as you're in good health and happy then its hard for you to help us do what we do which makes it harder for us to help you do what you do.