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So you want to know who the 'Illuminati' is or are...was

 
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You and me are very alike Mr Adam :)
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Merry Christmas in July!




OP, you have to contact New Jerusalem Russ - he knows exactly what you're talking about. :)


Think I've heard the name but know nothing about new jerusalem. they celebrating Christmas in july now? How about two Christmas's that'd be fun eh
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All of us in THE KNOW are happy, the Rest are grumpy, LOL.
Im salivating over the Prophecied alignments.
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Question;

What's the end game?
Where are they going with us?
Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?


End Game is just the end of the current game...the end of the Roman empire was the end of that game, the end of the way things are today is the end of this game and the start of another. This one seems a bit bigger, but they get bigger and smaller all the time. This time they shift the red/blue powers, they shift the middle east powers, and they shift the race powers(been hearing about race wars coming up) This time they're calling it a Pole Shift.

They're going back to the same place they came from, things might look a bit different, boarders will be redrawn but ultimately the aristocracy will be in power and the rest of us will still hate eachother (Divide and conquer the pleebs are divided against eachother and the rich conquer)

They do not have 'alien' rulers like you might think. They often refer to themselves as aliens because they truly believe they are a greater race of beings, not human like us but smarter and stronger and better(not true of course but they think so, really just like Hitler) They didn't need aliens to help them conquer us, they conquered us eons ago when we thought the 10 square mile pond we lived near was the whole world, it was like taking candy from a baby. Originally they were shaman types and magicians. They wowed people by throwing clay rocks into lakes and turning them a bit red, they did this up stream so people couldn't see them. The slaves thought this was magic and worshiped them as Gods. They pull the same tricks today, I know how UFO's fly and I'll post that in a bit, it's incredibly simple you're gonna kick yourself for not figuring it out.



How can they hide themselves so well?

Like, we eat cloned animals...People don't know.
Flouride is worse for you than good, and people don't know.
Sept 11 was an inside job, and people are just starting to know...if that.
4/20/10 was an inside job, and no one cares.

How can this secret go on?

And how can they not have alien lords if they started in Sumerian times?

Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?



They started before sumeria only much much smaller, I don't currently know of any named tribes before that time period so I didn't mention, but I did mention it started with shaman types and tribal leaders, they were all just liars.

They hide it right in front of your face, it's too obvious to be true, just like you said for the rest of those things, fluoride and whatnot. They refresh the system before the populace is fully ready to wake up, using their market research to determine what percentage of the population is becoming aware. GLP is one of those tools.

The Gold is what they use as money, they used it originally and still use it today. People love gold for some reason and they know that. It's in very short supply so it's easy for them to hold onto and keep track of.


First off, I cannot believe these people were around, and intelligent before Sumerian times.
I think they at least would have some very secret alien knowledge to allow them to gain the control they have.

I agree they do hide it right in front of our face.
I mean, they buy scientists off and people call me a dumbass for disagreeing with a scientist.

Thirdly - Gold is used by the Annunaki, and how can De Rothschild, a man with $500 trillion in Gold alone care to use that to buy anything?!
He's collecting it for a reason.

There's a much deeper reason to all this outside of control.
They have control.
Always have.
They allowed our population to explode, and are now trying to get rid of us.

...There's more going on that meets the eye.
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Yeah, there is definitely more than meets the eye, or that OP has posted. "They" are running scared,hence the posts regarding their absolute power. It's game over for them, and they know it.
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OP...have you ever seen the movie...Wholly Moses! with Dudley Moore?

You'd enjoy it right about now.
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“I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to the Israelis.
It just boggles the mind.
They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time.
I got to the point where I wasn't writing any­thing down.
If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on”
-Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman, US Joint Chiefs of Staff


"Its hard to imagine us going into Iraq without the strong lobbying efforts from AIPAC and the Neocons"
-General Odom, NSA Chief under Reagan



"Today the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them"
-PM of Malaysia-Mahathir Mohamad 10/17/2003


'When I open the police files I find detailed reports about Jewish criminals. The archives have enough material for 100 historians and for 100 years, and even then they won't finish."
-- Mordechai Zalkin Haartez News. Jerusalem, November 2, 2004

"The Americans are (now known as) a sordid, greedy, cruel people. Why? Because Jewish money-power is centered here."
-- Henry Ford, Sr Author of 'The International Jew '


'Corral the 50 wealthiest jews and there will be no wars.'
- Henry Ford



"The Christians are always singing about the blood. Let us give them enough of it! Let us cut their throats and drag them over the altar! And let them drown in their own blood! I dream of the day when the last priest is strangled on the guts of the last preacher." (Jewish Chairman of the American Communist Party, Gus Hall).

"We shall drive the Christians into war by exploiting their national vanity and stupidity. They will then massacre each other, thus giving room for our own people." (Rabbi Reichorn, in Le Contemporain, July 1st, 1880)

"Israel won the war [WW I]; we made it; we thrived on it; we profited from it. It was our supreme revenge on Christianity." (The Jewish Ambassador from Austria to London, Count Mensdorf, 1918).


“Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer — so I wasn’t lying — and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive.”
Harold Wallace Rosenthal, Administrative Aide to the then Senator Jacob Javits, 1976.
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Did you explain how UFO's fly yet? I didn't want to read the NINETEEN PAGES
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OP...have you ever seen the movie...Wholly Moses! with Dudley Moore?

You'd enjoy it right about now.
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"Harvey and Zoey, two tourists travelling through Israel, discover an ancient scroll describing the life of Herschel, the man who was almost Moses. Herschel receives the command from God to free his people from Egyptian slavery, but Moses keeps blundering by and taking all the credit. Several other biblical stories, such as Lot and his wife, David and Goliath, and the miracles of Jesus, are also parodied in this story of the life of a man trying to follow the path to God, but somehow always seeming to lose his way"

you got that right! OP(s) is (are)on a obliquely erroneous Herschelian tragectory.
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play this part you fkin douchebag flip
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You all are just game players attempting to manipulate each other into playing games.

The top invented the game you are all playing and it's designed so that they win by default.

The beauty of it though is that those ignorant of Truth think they are winning it until the game reaches the logical conclusion...with the logical conclusion of any game being game over.

You all think you are winning right up to that point...then you find out you were a loser the instant you started playing.

Because your awareness is not inside of the Universe...LAW has no effect.

These message boards are ultimately crude connections between awarenesses...

You all just play games without end in here...Because all that these posts are is thoughts

None of this has to be real...

Since none of this need to be real you just lie your asses off trying to win a game you were the loser of the instant you chose to play it.

the Illuminati are just as oblivious of Truth as all below the top are...they are just higher than you in the hierarchy.

Period end of story.

You all are marching to your doom with glee.

You all are traveling to the logical conclusion blissfully.

I'm already there waiting for you all to show up.

Truth is infinite and indestructible.

Truth is GOD and GOD is Truth.

Infinite has no beginning and no end.

At that point everything that has ever happened and everything that ever will happen occurs.

Truth powers all that has no beginning and has happened and all that has no end and will happen.

In all existence since there is infinite universes

The Universe is finite and fragile...It's at best simplified down as a paradox of the never ending end.

Once you know truth you become immune to lies.

There is no way that you can sustain power to lies any longer and they all self destruct.

Power being belief.

once you find truth all the lies you currently hope believe and have faith in cease to exist and all that is left is Truth.

It's the purpose of the just think positive ignore the negative religion

The embrace fantasy reject reality religion

the embrace lies and delusion reject Truth equation at the core of your drone reasoning algorithm that the top programed you all directly and indirectly with.

Once you know Truth...it's game over...

You can see through each and every lie you all hope believe and have faith in as Truth.

It why the top has socially engineered the bottom into utilizing absolute self indulgent reason to solve the problem of existence.

You all are running from Truth...You all don't want to find Truth.

Because you are trying to win the war against Truth with all the lies you create to try to manipulate yourself and others.

Truth destroys all the lies and shatters the delusions you all hope believe and have faith in to be Truth.

All the lies the top has told you all that you all hope believe and have faith in.

I'm not here because I want to be here...I don't have the foggiest clue why I'm posting in this thread other than I need to.

The Universe is perfectly fair, Everything and everyone within the universe receives what they and it deserve, and there is no hope.

I sure hope 1+1=3

See how simple it is to prove there is no hope?

hope is a lie you tell to yourself and eventually fall in love with.

It a cherished delusion and you all will fight to the death to protect that which you cherish.

The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state...what you all generally call civilization that the top invented 1000's of years ago to amass power to fight Truth.

Is just a mass cherished delusion.

A lie you all deeply believe is Truth.

Don't try and tell me different because there's 1000's of years of history proving that you all have been fighting to the death sustaining the power to the lie you all believe will one day supply you all with salvation from Truth.

a lie never will because a lie is finite and fragile.

When the lie you all believe is Truth requires the destruction of GOD to sustain it's continued existance...it is destroyed by Truth.

Because all the power lies depend upon to sustain their existence comes from Truth.

Truth is the source of all power...Truth is the infinite and indestructible source of all power that which is finite and fragile depends upon for it's existence.

GOD does not need humanity to sustain the continued existence of GOD.

The LORD or Lords at the top of the hierarchy need humanity to fight GOD

And that's what the Lord employs all below to do.

Fight Truth

fight that which is a threat to that which you cherish as dictated by the just think positive ignore the negative religion you all are devout followers of.

The embrace Lies and delusion reject Truth equation at the core of your drone reasoning algorithm.

It keeps you all on the glorious march to doom with glee that you are on now and have been for 1000's of years.

the collapse of the absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state...what you all generally call civilization that the top invented 1000's of years ago to amass power to fight Truth.

always implodes.

That's all that the mass cherished delusion can do.

Amass as much power as possible to fight GOD attempting to obtain salvation from GOD until the the enterprise requires the power of GOD to sustain the Fight against GOD and then self destructs since the only way to obtain the power of GOD is to defeat GOD and that requires greater than infinite power.

Greater power than GOD.

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against Truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

The LORDS above the mindless Illuminati drones the mindless drones below them think have power know about all this.

All below the top are not only oblivious of Truth...you all are socially engineered to fear it.

You all will spend your life searching for something you never want to find.

You will embrace lies and delusion and reject Truth.

You all are just game players attempting to manipulate each other into playing games.

The top invented the game you are all playing and it's designed so that they win by default.

The beauty of it though is that those ignorant of Truth think they are winning it until the game reaches the logical conclusion...with the logical conclusion of any game being game over.

You all think you are winning right up to that point...then you find out you were a loser the instant you started playing.

A loser the instant you chose to seek salvation from Truth by embracing Lies and delusions.

The game you are attempting to play with me ended before it began.

But like all the devout followers of the just think positive ignore the negative religion keep telling me...

If at first you don't succeed try try again.
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Im curious about something ADAM.

I thought it was weird that everyone thought you were nuts for giving out your address.

But you say you live with friends. how do they feel about that?

Im thinking that unexpected visitors is just one of the things that comes with the territory when your around.

If your ever in st.louis and you need a place to crash, let me know.


They do not know yet, about the address or my works. They are not just yet ready to hear, but soon I believe their minds will be open to receiving the words I speak. It won't be an all of a sudden complete surprise out of no where though, I have dropped numerous hints many of which to me may have seemed obvious, but like I said they are not ready. Since I believe everything has it's place and purpose, a time and place for everything. If visitors show up I shall deal with the matter then and in that case that should be the correct time to deal with said matter, if I have not yet already dealt with that matter. I generally tend to take my queues from nature. As it was in fact nature that led me here and urged me to reveal what I have to reveal. Earlier I used the term tricked, it is likely that the way I used the term is not in the same manner that others might use the same term so I should say that when I said tricked, urged may have been a better choice of verbiage.

I was not expecting to be posting here and when I did I was not sure at the time what would come of it. Interestingly enough when I speak here, it's almost as if I enter another state of mind. I'm perfectly conscious and in control and the same way anyone else is in control of their actions, but it has a slight auto-pilot feel, almost as if nature takes over. It's somewhat hard to explain, it doesn't 'take over' as I am nature and always am nature but feel more in tune with natural occurrences. Perhaps to say that when I am speaking what I have to speak I feel as though what I am doing is perfectly natural and what I am saying is occurring in the same way a flower grows or the wind blows, absolutely natural.

The thing is even if later I feel as though I made a mistake, no mistake was actually made as that was as it should have been. What many view as mistakes are in fact natural occurrences. Many view mistakes as imperfections, but I believe this is not the case at all. That mistake was supposed to be, we may not know exactly why, we may even never know exactly why it should be that way, nonetheless it happened and should have.

Speaking of mistakes, some may view our current times and past as a mistake, our past transgressions I speak of. This really is not the case, this was part of growing up for our race. I believe I mentioned before that it is like the terrible twos in a human baby, just part of growing up. Perhaps the way nature sees it what's a few thousand years of torment compared to the insane amount of blissful time we have ahead of us?

Also good to note is that GLP is clearly the perfect place for new beginnings of such caliber. Some of you here may not realize how ready your minds are for the change I speak of. I was led here, as were you. This forum has opened your minds, perhaps without your knowledge, to alternative theories. Many of you have been here so long that you don't even realize what it's like to not be open to the type of information presented on this forum. These are exciting times we live in. You on GLP have been hand picked by nature to be some of the very first to become aware of the coming changes. You may not know this now, but you have integral roles to play, as everyone does and none more important than any other, but as some of the first to accept these amazing changes some of you will learn quickly and become those that spread the word of change in some of the earliest stages. I bet more than a few of you didn't know what you were signing up for when you started frequenting this site. I know I didn't.

Merry Christmas in July!

Ah and thank you for your offer, the time may come when I should take you up on this offer.



Just so that you know, i knew exactly what you meant when you said that you were TRICKED into coming here. Im sure you have realized that your ideas and thoughts are strange to many people but you should also realize that they make perfect sense to some of us.
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bullshit, there is nothing good about this "place"
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play this part you fkin douchebag flip




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you too jackass
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I have been pondering the double headed eagle, and can see that it was a symbol of the oldest royalty known in the world, the proto-dynastic kings of Egypt.

[link to xoomer.virgilio.it]

Have a look at some of those "double bird" palettes and tell me you don't see the same thing today. There are other symbols there as well, which you will recognize.

Many of these palettes date from before hieroglyphic or other writing systems (abjads) were known to them. You can see how symbology is powerful and allows connection to literally mythical roots.
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I have been pondering the double headed eagle, and can see that it was a symbol of the oldest royalty known in the world, the proto-dynastic kings of Egypt.

[link to xoomer.virgilio.it]

Have a look at some of those "double bird" palettes and tell me you don't see the same thing today. There are other symbols there as well, which you will recognize.

Many of these palettes date from before hieroglyphic or other writing systems (abjads) were known to them. You can see how symbology is powerful and allows connection to literally mythical roots.
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AHEM, its the REBIS, the DOUBLE THING. its a level of SPIRITUAL INITIATION, it has deep meaning.
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Heres something about the G


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Compass & Square

Perhaps the best-known of all Masonic symbols are the compass and square, shown interlocked with the letter "G" between them, as the traditional emblems of Freemasonry. During the granting of the First, Second and Third Degrees, the compass and square are placed upon the altar of the Temple in an interlinked fashion, representing the divine Light as it unites with the candidate and fills him with increasing knowledge. At the same time, this leads to his "rebirth" as its resurrected "offspring".

That this symbolic rite was derived from a still older mystery, however, is suggested by an early Masonic catechism, which asks,

What did the 2 cherubim on the ark of the covenant represent?

The answer which it gives is: "The mystery of the Golden Altar" (Dumfries Ms., ca. 1799).

Thus, the union of "the two Cherubim" in the Jerusalem Temple would appear to be the ultimate source of the "mystery of the Golden Altar" in the Masonic Temple.

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The letter "G" (signifying God's secret Name) appears between the intertwining compass and square and is paralleled by Philo's explanation that the union of the statues in the Jewish Temple represented God's "consorting" with the soul, and his "divinizing" of the recipient. Thus the compass and square are exact symbolic equivalents of the ancient Cherubim, i.e. the ancient "Male" and "Female," whose union was the central feature of the Wisdom mystery, and which brought about the candidate's deification. But we should also compare this unique symbolism with the Divine Image itself (Gen. 1:27), which teaches that God is male and female united; hence the sacred "G" appears only when the male compass and the female square are intertwined.

The association of these "male" and "female" symbols with solar and lunar iconography was also based on early Israelite and Semitic tradition, according to which the heavenly bodies represented various male and female deities. Their symbols were in fact still used by European alchemists to describe the union of "heaven" and "earth," taking the "Sun" as a figure of Christ, and the "Moon" as a figure of his Bride, the Church. These must again unite in order to "beget" the "Philosopher's Stone," i.e. eternal life.

Above, the celestial things, below, the terrestrial; by the male and the female the work is accomplished. Join the male and the female and you will find what you are seeking (Aphorisms of Zosimus)

But before they can complete this all-important work, both must die and pass through the "nigredo" state, i.e. the death and dissolution of the body. Zosimus appropriately characterized this stage of the mystery with the image of the "priest" who is torn to pieces and mutilated before he can be resurrected and discover the "Stone of the Nile."



Other alchemists described the marriage of the "sun-compass" and the "moon-square" as the bringing together of superius/inferius and externis/interius, which exactly mirrors the language of the ancient Gospel of Thomas ("You shall enter the Kingdom when the upper is as the lower and the outside is as the inside.") Both "Male" and "Female" will then be resurrected as the "gold" of eternal life, forever joined as a divine zakar wanekebah, or "Rebis" ("Two-in-One"). The "Sun" and the "Moon" are further referred to as the "King" and "Queen," just as the Jews referred to God and his exiled Shekhinah in the Kabbalistic mystery.

The ultimate origin of the compass and square as divine emblems is presently lost in the mists of antiquity, but their universal employment as builders' tools caused them to appear nearly everywhere as theological symbols for denoting creative power. In Greek iconography, for example, the nature of the gods Pluto, Bacchus and Mars was represented by the triangle (a three-sided, enclosed compass), and that of the goddesses Rhea, Venus, Ceres, Vesta and Juno by the square. In Egypt, the "amulets" of Osiris included two plumb lines, suspended from two compasses, as well as two squares. In pre-Christian China, one also found the Demiurge, Fu Hsih, and his female counterpart, Nü Kua, displaying the compass and square as symbols of their male and female creative powers. Even earlier, the I Ching (ca. 720-474 B.C.) had described the heavens as round (just as the compass delineates the horizon), and the earth as square (with its "four corners").

But these symbols were also employed by the Israelite Creator, who declares in the Old Testament, "I will set a plumb line in the midst of my people, Israel" (Amos 7:8). . . "Judgment will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet" (Isa. 28:17). . ."And thou shalt make an altar...(that) shall be foursquare" (Ex. 27:1). . . "When he prepared the heavens, I was there; when he set a compass upon the face of the depth." (Prov. 8:27) . . . "He has described a circle upon the face of the waters" (Job 26:10)
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These references show that the ubiquitous builder's tools were also traditionally associated with his divine power and work. There was a legend that the veil before God's Throne in the Heavenly Holy of Holies was covered with the archetypal forms from which Creation would proceed. These forms undoubtedly included the basic round and straight shapes of nature, which the compass and square were used to mark out. It is therefore no surprise to find that medieval cathedral builders frequently depicted Christ with the plumb line, compass and square in his hands, as, for example, in the Cathedral of Santa Croce in Florence, where Jesus stands above the main portal holding the worker's square as a sign of his divine creative power.

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I think Op needs to seek employment,

at Taco Bell.

via con dios, me amigo;as?


Well there is a Taco Bell across the street, but I think I'll pass. Always nice to hear a suggestion though so thanks anyway.
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Contemplate something that brought itself into being, in the process of which became the all, yet still transcends the all.
Now consider the idea of aspects of the all imagining that they are superior to other aspects of the all. That they are "illuminated" by a greater understanding of the all. An understanding that is based upon and limited to, only the material, egoistic components of being. Forgetting that only the all transcends itself.
As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century.

Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey.
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Contemplate something that brought itself into being, in the process of which became the all, yet still transcends the all.
Now consider the idea of aspects of the all imagining that they are superior to other aspects of the all. That they are "illuminated" by a greater understanding of the all. An understanding that is based upon and limited to, only the material, egoistic components of being. Forgetting that only the all transcends itself.
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Yea the eternal hunting for more wealth,knowledge,power
And forgetting the spirit in the process
Like holding a carrot infront of someone and keep saying - you are allmost there, allmost there just a little more truth allmost there, you are so close to ascend, just a bit more, here is abit more intel for ya, soon you will see the truth.
Truth is simpel, we knew it when we were born
before all the brainwashing started.
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Contemplate something that brought itself into being, in the process of which became the all, yet still transcends the all.
Now consider the idea of aspects of the all imagining that they are superior to other aspects of the all. That they are "illuminated" by a greater understanding of the all. An understanding that is based upon and limited to, only the material, egoistic components of being. Forgetting that only the all transcends itself.

Yea the eternal hunting for more wealth,knowledge,power
And forgetting the spirit in the process
Like holding a carrot infront of someone and keep saying - you are allmost there, allmost there just a little more truth allmost there, you are so close to ascend, just a bit more, here is abit more intel for ya, soon you will see the truth.
Truth is simpel, we knew it when we were born
before all the brainwashing started.
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we knew it before we were born. we forgot it when we "showed up"
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I'd say your information is a bit off esp given Mel's current situation.
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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but its incredible how they can play us so well. I think they somehow must have mastered reincarnation in the upper level. Otherwise, some of the old elitists would have lost interest or connections. or maybe the illuminati is not so much a continious organization as it is an idea that arises whenever enough power attracts at a central point in human consciousness.



They do interbreed with each other, that's the secret .
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I guess thats possible. it would keep them together. Every few hundred years they probably introduce some new blood or else their babies would come out ugly or whatnot.
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and you're saying they don't/aren't/haven't?

lol

pluck out your eye mate, it's clearly working against you in this regard

they may well believe that "more of less" somehow equates to "greater than" however in truth it doesn't hold water

they neglected to apply that particular across the board wherein and by they would also be qualifying the fallacy that two wrongs make a right -

that bird won't fly either, however
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Sorry OP, you're not there yet.

"Elites" are nothing but upper class slaves. They're not the masters of this world, merely puppets. You have to look beyond them to see the real enslavers, the hidden hand. And they are not human.
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You're clearly trying to hide the obvious. No it's not the ones that look like they're enslaving you it's something else you can't see or define clearly...

Edit: Also no one is commenting on the Anti-Christ portion of this. I know many don't like that stuff but the upper class is a hum dinger for the AC, they're the exact opposite of the character described as Christ.
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well it's not exactly cutting edge news if that's what you're intimating...

you don't imagine we're familiar with same I take it...

lol

who else would they be emmulating if not the prodigal one eyed jack?
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Also, why are they collecting all the gold in the world if not for an alien purpose?


i think that's just rothschild's particular area of expertise -
he owns/runs the 'metal exchange' in london - i.e. all metals are owned by him

other ones probably own water, others food etc
.

Water can be found in a lake and you can drink it.

Gold can also be found around the Earth - but not in the same fashion.

He's collecting gold for a reason.

...there's ALWAYS a reason...


I believe it's because people want it. It's like holding someones kid for ransom. As long as you have what someone wants really bad you can get them to do anything.



I don't think so.

There's no reason for him to own 95% of the gold on this Earth.
Control? You don't need THAT much to control it.

...There's something fishy going on...


I'm thinking you and I may have to disagree on this particular portion of this subject. I'm willing to hear more of what you have to say though. Gotta say though to me these guys have been thirsty enough for human souls that they have kept it up for literally thousands of years. They do not know how to live on their own in any way shape or form. Many people think that Americans have forgotten how to live off the land. Imagine these people, they have absolutely no idea how to live without slaves doing absolutely everything for them. The have the fear of god in them, if they ever lost control they lose everything. Everything is quite a bit to these people, the own an entire planet. And probably the Moon and Mars by now to boot.
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I completely agree with you how these guys are princesses.
I saw it first hand at the G20 - They needed every thing done for them.
I wonder if they tie their own shoes.

I believe Rothschild is harboring gold for his Annunaki rulers/kings.
He has knowledge of secrets that we can't even imagine, and is using it to control everything.

I believe if/when the Annunaki return, the Rothschild will be their hero, and love them for their help in collecting gold.
I don't think it has anything to do with greed on this earth.

Their satanic rituals are bizarre.

This whole world is upside down...
 Quoting: guy369




lol

the annunaki worship Rothschild???

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

now THAT's humorous as hell

but it stands about as much of a chance as hell does when push comes to shove

and all things consider there isn't a chance in hell of either

that's all she wrote
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Question;

What's the end game?
Where are they going with us?
Do they have alien rulers? I mean, they've been around since the beginning - wouldn't they have to?


End Game is just the end of the current game...the end of the Roman empire was the end of that game, the end of the way things are today is the end of this game and the start of another. This one seems a bit bigger, but they get bigger and smaller all the time. This time they shift the red/blue powers, they shift the middle east powers, and they shift the race powers(been hearing about race wars coming up) This time they're calling it a Pole Shift.




Cycles, Cycles everything is a cycle and all is planned by the stars. But OP what comes next is not what you may expect. The end of a Grand cycle is ingrained through out the New Testament.

We need to forget about the boogyman for now, and focus on ourselves, clear our hearts and minds of sins of the flesh. Time is quickening...
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This is the answer, this is the end of the grand cycle, understanding and evolution. Yes it is true that the AC created the bible and other religious texts, but he does not know that he was tricked into doing it. God created the AC knowing he would write those very words. He created man knowing that it would take those very words to control him. The AC created the bible, God created the AC. The AC was duped, he does not know there really is a God. God duped him into outting himself, the words in the bible describe the people I am describing to you. I am describing not only the Anti-Christ but also God. THIS THREAD IS THE END OF ONE CYCLE AND THE BEGINING OF THE NEXT. THIS THREAD IS EVOLUTION. www.GODlikeproductions.com
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the world has always had it's petty tyrants of the day, or hour as it may be

and they have served a purpose that was multi-fold

but as do all things that rise to the height of heights

they one day crumble back down into dust

sure there are cycles, that seemingly go round and round

but don't be fooled into believing they are going nowhere

that's just not good enough for me

were that the case then nothing would really matter

nor anyone, nor anything...

and I daresay that is hardly the case
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In scientific terms what is the formula for humanity to create a society based in free will?
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humanity was given that by his birthright if you will recall

it isn't what you give a man that tells the tale of the tape

but rather what he choose to do with it that defines his destiny

not rocket science here boys

kick it around all you wish

but once you drop the ball it's over
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You're close OP, but the Universe doesn't
simply contract and expand in a linear cycle.
It functions as a perfect polarity (+) & (-)
Torus as explained through Vortex mathematics.
It's an uninterrupted bound infinity which is
double circuited & constantly moves and evolves
~ Recycling everything that enters the black hole
into the white.

 Quoting: Soundlessdawn


This only makes an asumption that the universe has an edge.
What if it is just infinite ? And if there is an edge then what is outside of it ? Thus the conundrum.
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Are the people that let you sleep in the basement and take food from the fridge your parents ?
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Very interesting and eye opening. So the illuminati plan on keeping us working till forever or what? Its a big universe out there or so it seems. Do they ever plan on getting us off this rock?
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doesn't much matter what "they" have planned for us

a larger truth prevails

this rock as you call it is our home

it no longer resembles it's perfection of harmony but it once again shall in due time

you could search the universe and come up with nothing that will ever compare

everything is cyclical

he who would chuck his interest and run will find he is running in circles with nothing to gain for his effort





GLP