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Yea, he actually does act like he was surprised to have shot the guy. He might have really thought he had his tazer out. I think you can even see him put his hands on his head as if he's thinking "Oh my God, what did I do?"

no. he knew it was his GUN idiot. he got shooken up when he ended his life though. kill that fuckin pig


He didn't act like he knew it was his gun to me, it's pretty obvious.

how do you mistake a Pistol-Trigger, AND SAFETY!!! (cops have safety on always) for a TASER??? HOW does that happen? explain it??? FUCK that crooked cop n all crooked cops alike. killemall!


He was on some legal drug, impaired his thinking. If he couldn't tell what he was doing, shot a gun without thinking, and killed someone. He is a bad man or on something that made him not think right. Do you know if they did drug tests on him? Police do those kinds of things too.

All in all this was a bad thing, and it shouldn't have happened. I am really sorry for the young mans family.



He claimed right after the shooting that he thought he was reaching for a gun, later, his story changed to , I thougt i grabbed my taser. That is the truth....

There the truth lies in his soul is beyond us. But I personally believe, that his obvious attempt to cover up his original statements shows manipulation leading me to believe this was at very least, voluntary manslaughter, not involuntary.
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yep. crooked pigs tend to change stories a lot...
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This was involuntary manslaughter?




Fuck man
That kid was executed(with the handcufts on his hand tied on his back). The color of his skin has nothing to do with the clear fakt: is a murder.
The family of the victim should have the right to decide what to do with them cops. Not only one , but all of them involved in this crime.
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Multiculturalism failed.
The American experiment failed.
People getting killed left and right in their own neighborhoods because the MULTICULTURAL MIX DIDN'T WORK.
Everybody is expecting riots.
Everybody is expecting poverty.
Everybody is expecting the Apocalypse.

End multiculturalism and all will be fine.
Whoever can't see this is a damn idiot.
At least you will be having just wars.
Now you are having wars AND domestic violence.

What is the biggest weapon of a New World Order?
MULTI CULTISM. End this and be free.
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Being a cop is some serious stuff... I do believe I don't have the courage to be one and if you can remember that if you don't want any trouble w/ the law, don't do anything wrong.
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That poor thug, its a shame he wont get to rob anyone anymore , or sell drugs. He had just recently got out of jail on a gun possession charge and resisting arrest, that city needs more like him. Its a shame he is missing out on all the looting,raping/rioting that is going on on his behalf. "
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When it comes to being a human being, he was a disgusting example. He was pulled off of the train because he and his gang were beating up on other people on the train.
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Being a cop is some serious stuff... I do believe I don't have the courage to be one and if you can remember that if you don't want any trouble w/ the law, don't do anything wrong.
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And heck, even if you do nothing wrong, they need a release from time to time, eh?
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This was involuntary manslaughter?



murderers!!! we need more men like Tupac in this world- he would have shot them fuckin pigs!!!!!!!!!


"cybereyes1
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That poor thug, its a shame he wont get to rob anyone anymore , or sell drugs. He had just recently got out of jail on a gun possession charge and resisting arrest, that city needs more like him. Its a shame he is missing out on all the looting,raping/rioting that is going on on his behalf. "

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Good BS flag poster!!!!! You know what it takes to get a gun possession charge and resisting arrest charge in the US? Nothing for resisting, and following the constitution for the gun. You can follow the US constitution and get the exact same thing. So if that's all you got OP, then yeah, give us more, I don't care what friggin color he is. Otherwise, give me an actual crime. And resisting arrest?? Really? I've been threatened with that for not licking the boot that kicked me in the head, and also threatened for that because of whom I might vote for in Las fucking Vegas. So what? That's become a joke in the states. My friends all have guns. So give me more of them. You got anything else???:???
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What happens if the social security payments stopped,will it be a pretty sight?
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AC 1017498 FROM CANADA.

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sorry for the caps ..but i am so angry.
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Being a cop is some serious stuff... I do believe I don't have the courage to be one and if you can remember that if you don't want any trouble w/ the law, don't do anything wrong.
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Sorry friend.. I've no problem with any people, but your gov is fucked up.

No matter if you want trouble with the law or not, you shouldn't be executed unarmed on the train station. That goes for you and him!

peace
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Imagine yourself in the same tense situation with your adrenalin flowing your body automatically stops certain bodily functions while enhancing others so his story is not so farfetched if we factor in basic bodily responses.



We need to sit back and evaluate the situation and place ourselves in the shoes of others while we still can.




Blah blah blah STFU A TAZAR and a .45 are nothing alike... The cop reacting on quick draw instict ....and killed in cold blood.


Spoken like an armchair idiot hollering opinions and verdicts from the safety of your living room while responding to the events on your television. Look up adrenaline and police and the physical and psychological effects adrenaline has upon a person and how they are trained to try being aware and coping with the changes in stressful situations.

Lowering Pursuit Induced Adrenaline Overloads
[link to www.pursuitwatch.org]

The adrenaline dump: It's more than just breathing
[link to www.policeone.com]

Police Use of Force
[link to www.ci.westminster.co.us]

The Blue and You
[link to policelink.monster.com]

Florida Officer Involved In Shooting
[link to blutube.policeone.com]
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And whilst that may be a defense an officer can use, a civvie using that defense will be ass reamed. fuck off idiot....
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In my words?!? wow, pressure...

I would say the world is covered in gasoline,... and all it needs is a match...

and when the fire burns out,

the field is ready to be planted with peace, freedom, and abundance...


it's a theory or philosophy, that it just takes a spark, to burn all the shit up. And when it's over, the fields will be fertile... Oh, I need to sleep. :)

Oh well, for the time I must take the easy way out, maybe another time we can talk in more depth., this is a good start though...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Hmmm. I refer to your words, I dont have the patience to read wiki. Right now. You do understand power and activism from the bottom up, dont you? Bad govt, corruption, impunity, from the top down? Listening and empowering ourselves,,,, meaning and esp for activists, to derive their understanding and their concienscness from the struggle of those who are struggling. From the bottom up, from those that are oppressed and hurting, to where it can be resolved. For all of us, including you. I dont know. I have my own selfish desires, which is very significant, and I align my desires to those of the majority. Otherwise I have no interest with the majority, and therefore, I have no commitment in being an activist for their interest...


You shouldn't be an activist for the majority., you should be an activist for what is right. And you know in your heart what is right. All I ask is that you accept the truth, not the feed. MSM does not always show the truth. See the truth, and do your best. That is all I want. OF course, you will choose your own path, but I will only truly respect an honest path towards the truth. Try your best, and I understand, circle your wagons and scream savage, and I will look at you with disdain. (not because of the past), but because you should know in the now.


Okay now we are getting down. hahaha And what is right? Yes I know what in my heart is right. But I ASSUME that what is right is also in the heart of my fellow human being,,, free of corruption and free of bad influence. I believe that from the bottom of my heart, that people are good and decent and do not need to be taught what is good and decent...




I dont know if that is exactly what you believe,,, but you should let me know to advance to the next level of this conversation....


Oh, man, we are getting deep, and I'm getting very tired. lol

 Quoting: OilAwakening


These are very simple concepts to me, at least for my generation and a couple of ones before me. I dont know why you are finding it so difficult to grasp...

Let me get a little more ronchy for you, to perhaps make it more clear. There are those that think people, ie the majority, are basically stupid monkeys, and they need to be led like the sheep they are. Okay. There are some who think they are superior intellectuals, supermen, and only their interests matter, and when they resolve the problems of humanity everyone should follow obediently otherwise they are expendable...

I disagree with both those concepts, and try to align my interests and my beliefs with the majority, because I think the majority are basically decent good people who are worthy....


This has nothing to do
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This was involuntary manslaughter?




Fuck man
That kid was executed(with the handcufts on his hand tied on his back). The color of his skin has nothing to do with the clear fakt: is a murder.
The family of the victim should have the right to decide what to do with them cops. Not only one , but all of them involved in this crime.


Multiculturalism failed.
The American experiment failed.
People getting killed left and right in their own neighborhoods because the MULTICULTURAL MIX DIDN'T WORK.
Everybody is expecting riots.
Everybody is expecting poverty.
Everybody is expecting the Apocalypse.

End multiculturalism and all will be fine.
Whoever can't see this is a damn idiot.
At least you will be having just wars.
Now you are having wars AND domestic violence.

What is the biggest weapon of a New World Order?
MULTI CULTISM. End this and be free.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030352


Honestly? I love the Greeks... I really do.. You have no idea....

But this is not about race. I'm in my 30's. I was on the leading edge of a society raised to not see race. I'm not blind, but I see race as irrelevant. It's not the important thing. The important thing is to do what is right. Unfortunately, our "leaders" can never do what is right (except for them), that is the problem, not race. There are lots of different people. I don't want open borders, but I like mexicans. They are humans just like like me. No need to be racists. Hate is a tool of the masters.... I want the masters to go away, so that all humans can reach their full potential. that does not mean socialism in America. but greece can do what it wants
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This was involuntary manslaughter?




Fuck man
That kid was executed(with the handcufts on his hand tied on his back). The color of his skin has nothing to do with the clear fakt: is a murder.
The family of the victim should have the right to decide what to do with them cops. Not only one , but all of them involved in this crime.


Multiculturalism failed.
The American experiment failed.
People getting killed left and right in their own neighborhoods because the MULTICULTURAL MIX DIDN'T WORK.
Everybody is expecting riots.
Everybody is expecting poverty.
Everybody is expecting the Apocalypse.

End multiculturalism and all will be fine.
Whoever can't see this is a damn idiot.
At least you will be having just wars.
Now you are having wars AND domestic violence.

What is the biggest weapon of a New World Order?
MULTI CULTISM. End this and be free.


Honestly? I love the Greeks... I really do.. You have no idea....

But this is not about race. I'm in my 30's. I was on the leading edge of a society raised to not see race. I'm not blind, but I see race as irrelevant. It's not the important thing. The important thing is to do what is right. Unfortunately, our "leaders" can never do what is right (except for them), that is the problem, not race. There are lots of different people. I don't want open borders, but I like mexicans. They are humans just like like me. No need to be racists. Hate is a tool of the masters.... I want the masters to go away, so that all humans can reach their full potential. that does not mean socialism in America. but greece can do what it wants
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hf
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In my words?!? wow, pressure...

I would say the world is covered in gasoline,... and all it needs is a match...

and when the fire burns out,

the field is ready to be planted with peace, freedom, and abundance...


it's a theory or philosophy, that it just takes a spark, to burn all the shit up. And when it's over, the fields will be fertile... Oh, I need to sleep. :)

Oh well, for the time I must take the easy way out, maybe another time we can talk in more depth., this is a good start though...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Hmmm. I refer to your words, I dont have the patience to read wiki. Right now. You do understand power and activism from the bottom up, dont you? Bad govt, corruption, impunity, from the top down? Listening and empowering ourselves,,,, meaning and esp for activists, to derive their understanding and their concienscness from the struggle of those who are struggling. From the bottom up, from those that are oppressed and hurting, to where it can be resolved. For all of us, including you. I dont know. I have my own selfish desires, which is very significant, and I align my desires to those of the majority. Otherwise I have no interest with the majority, and therefore, I have no commitment in being an activist for their interest...


You shouldn't be an activist for the majority., you should be an activist for what is right. And you know in your heart what is right. All I ask is that you accept the truth, not the feed. MSM does not always show the truth. See the truth, and do your best. That is all I want. OF course, you will choose your own path, but I will only truly respect an honest path towards the truth. Try your best, and I understand, circle your wagons and scream savage, and I will look at you with disdain. (not because of the past), but because you should know in the now.


Okay now we are getting down. hahaha And what is right? Yes I know what in my heart is right. But I ASSUME that what is right is also in the heart of my fellow human being,,, free of corruption and free of bad influence. I believe that from the bottom of my heart, that people are good and decent and do not need to be taught what is good and decent...




I dont know if that is exactly what you believe,,, but you should let me know to advance to the next level of this conversation....


Oh, man, we are getting deep, and I'm getting very tired. lol



These are very simple concepts to me, at least for my generation and a couple of ones before me. I dont know why you are finding it so difficult to grasp...

Let me get a little more ronchy for you, to perhaps make it more clear. There are those that think people, ie the majority, are basically stupid monkeys, and they need to be led like the sheep they are. Okay. There are some who think they are superior intellectuals, supermen, and only their interests matter, and when they resolve the problems of humanity everyone should follow obediently otherwise they are expendable...

I disagree with both those concepts, and try to align my interests and my beliefs with the majority, because I think the majority are basically decent good people who are worthy....


This has nothing to do
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Multiculturalism failed.
The American experiment failed.
People getting killed left and right in their own neighborhoods because the MULTICULTURAL MIX DIDN'T WORK.
Everybody is expecting riots.
Everybody is expecting poverty.
Everybody is expecting the Apocalypse.

End multiculturalism and all will be fine.
Whoever can't see this is a damn idiot.
At least you will be having just wars.
Now you are having wars AND domestic violence.

What is the biggest weapon of a New World Order?
MULTI CULTISM. End this and be free.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030352


Are you Greek? What does multiculturism has to do with all this? Its just an excuse. Isnt it?
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i skipped to the end of this thread without reading.....what was the verdict and is there rioting?
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i skipped to the end of this thread without reading.....what was the verdict and is there rioting?
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involuntary manslaughter
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i skipped to the end of this thread without reading.....what was the verdict and is there rioting?
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involuntary manslaughter
sentencing will be Aug 6th I think

There was some rioting and looting for about 4 or 5 hours. Some fires set, windows broken, and about 5-10 stores were looted including a Foot Locker, a jewelry store, a food store. Possibly 50-100 people were arrested.
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Just heard on my local news channel!

The verdict for the Oakland BART cop who shot the black guy...Oscar Grant...to be made public in about 2 hours. The jury already made the verdict and is telling the media first, then the public!

Riots for sure in Oakland and across the Bay Area...you can bet on it!

Stay tuned............

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OP, the cop was found GUILTY and there were no riots!

Good luck next time at trying to fear monger and create racial tension.

You fail.
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I'm in my 30's. I was on the leading edge of a society raised to not see race. I'm not blind, but I see race as irrelevant.
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So says a confirmed idiot. Go live in the Im_an_idiot hood and see if *RACE* matters or not.
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i skipped to the end of this thread without reading.....what was the verdict and is there rioting?


involuntary manslaughter
sentencing will be Aug 6th I think

There was some rioting and looting for about 4 or 5 hours. Some fires set, windows broken, and about 5-10 stores were looted including a Foot Locker, a jewelry store, a food store. Possibly 50-100 people were arrested.
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So, just you're average night in Oakland.
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Funny how the black folks will stand up for themselves even if they get shot or arrested or whatever. The white folks keep on taking that red,white and blue dick being shoved up their asses everyday. Strange, if youa sk me.


White folk stand up when there is need for that...they dont riot mindlessly and destroy property of other people like fucking animals...there is difference between organized fighting back and rioting mindlessly...............how the fuck it helps if you destroy the stuff and all...it is not the way, no wonder they wont ever get far...


They always wreck their communities, I always wondered why. I guess they look at it as urban renewal. Well no bucks this time around so it would be very wise.

well if they do riot you can't help by say the are releasing their inner ..... and .....ing out
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They do it because they look at it as destroying government property. It's not "their" problem to fix, it's theirs. Like children crashing cars and expecting parents to buy another one.
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I agree multiculturism (Babylon) is a failure. Everyone should just go the one straight path of the New Jerusalem.


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So the man was going to be tazered because he was about to get arrested and was shot as an accident.
Here is an idea, DONT GET IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET TAZED!
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Take a P.C. 832 class sometime in your career and you'll understand that these morons should not have been cops. They should have cuffed everyone for everyone's safety and have them facing that low wall sitting on the backs of their ankles, ankles crossed. If one became combative, use your force triangle, deadly force being the last option to defend your life or the public. They couldn't prone out the subject and there were two of them. The cover officer could have proned the one kneeling next to subject who was shot before the idiot cop had a chance to draw his firearm.

I wear a sidearm everyday and I can tell you which one is a taser and which one my duty firearm. Stress fire, etc. excuse does not work in his instance since the officer's life was not in jeopardy, the subject has been restrained. The shot subject was not fighting with he officer. Yes, you can take someone down in a fight and properly cuff him including locking the cuffs once he has been restrained.

Earlier in the video, all of the kids were sitting by the wall and appeared to be compliant. Only when this guy showed up did they become belligerent. He probably incited these kids to behave the way they did. I know cops that do.
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So the man was going to be tazered because he was about to get arrested and was shot as an accident.
Here is an idea, DONT GET IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET TAZED!
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no...he was just riding the bart transportation and got off with friends.

he wasn't even making trouble. just a young black guy mistaken for someone else.

not all youth blacks are trouble. The cop was on steroids I hear too...so yeah, he was drugged and very mistaken. Good riddance that the is going to pay for murdering that young man who was innocent and NOT A THREAT!!!!
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I read that with involuntary manslaughter you get 2 to 4 years? Is this true?



It depends. He can get up to 15 depending. (whether he gets illegal use of firearm added by judge??) It's a compounding sentence. I don't know exactly. I'm taking MSM word. But from what I understand so far, at sentencing, he could hypothetically get probation to 15 years prison. MY GUESS is that he will not get more than 4 years, and if I was betting cash, I would bet less than 2, but it's iffy because he is BART< and not OPD.


From what I think it is a standard procedure on similar cops trials, they get the lesser years and then while in prison they get granted half of this penalty or so and they get out of prison as soon as they are allowed by the law.
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He should get off with time served. He is a Big Kid who does not appear to be too bright. I am convinced that he made a mistake while under stress. If you look at the videos the guy who was accidentally shot was kicking at the police officers. He kicked two of them in the groin. (That has got to hurt.)

Everybody was running on adrenalin, and the cop grabbed the wrong weapon. Remember he is a BART bus and train traffic cop. This is not a police officer who had dealt with gangs in Oakland. There are gun shootings every damn night in Oakland. Where ever the blacks are living, there is ten times the crime. That is a statistical fact that every inner city cop knows. Transit cops might know it.

This kid cop had limited training on the use of the tazer. Quite frankly he was inexperienced and should not have been in such a situation. Because of poor management in the BART police force, he was. Add it all up, and you realize that it was fucked up beyond all reason. In the Navy we called that FUBAR.

The criminal justice system will punish the cop for making a mistake. I am not convinced that a kid cop intended to commit murder in the presence of hundreds of witnesses. He just fucked up and that is that. I, personally, do not think that he should have been in a position where he could use lethal force. He was not trained well enough to be put there without immediate supervision.

Oscar Grant was a criminally minded piece of shit from hell, but he should not have been shot. They system is fucked up because it puts cops with the potential to use lethal force out on the streets where they can be in situations like this. FUBAR! FUBAR! FUBAR!

End result, the cop kid is scared for life. One black hoodlum is dead and some young punks get to break windows and steal some shoes and other things and maybe set a fire or two.

THAT is the reality of the modern world.
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i watched the vid...i was preapred to give benefot of the doubt...but no..sorry..that was murder. That person died for no reason..none of them even posed a threat.

its sickening.
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OP, the cop was found GUILTY and there were no riots!

Good luck next time at trying to fear monger and create racial tension.

You fail.
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There were riots, we watched em live, vids of em on Youtube, fires set, windows and other structures broken, businesses looted, police attacked, many many people arrested.



We must demand JUSTICE for Oscar Grant!
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