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It is important for people to understand that the witches brew in the Gulf could very well be a sinister potion designed to infect specific targeted populations with an unknown bio-warfare agent. Please read all the way
through - very extensive.

Corexit Background

I'm sure that most everyone by now knows quite a bit about Corexit. It's active ingredient is dioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate, an anionic surfactant which is commonly referred to as Aerosol OT (not to be confused with an actual aerosol of particles suspended in gas phase).
Corexit works by dispersing the oil into countless tiny droplets with the hydrophobic tails of the surfactant pointed inwards toward the oil and the hydrophilic heads pointing outwards toward the aqueous phase. The hydrophilic heads are negatively charge.

The rationale for using a dispersant such as Corexit for an oil spill is that there are some studies which suggest that the small droplets produced will be more susceptible to biodegradation. In other words, the natural breakdown of oil that occurs in seawater will occur more quickly by using a dispersant. In the meantime, however, the droplets are suspended as an emulsion that cannot be skimmed or separated from the seawater by conventional means. The emulsion rises/sinks in the water column to the depth where it finds its neutral buoyancy. The result is the so-called oil plumes we have been hearing about in the news.

As would be expected with most emulsions, the droplet size of Corexit-oil dispersions is a function of the applied shear rate. Droplets on the order of 2 to 5 microns in diameter can easily be produced under shear conditions [1].


Effects of a Hurricane on Corexit-oil droplets

Hurricanes act like giant blenders upon the ocean, bringing cold water up from deep below the surface. An example would be Hurricane Dennis which was a Category 4 hurricane that was observed to lift sediment off the seafloor more than 50 meters deep [2] There are other examples of hurricanes inducing vertical uplifts in the water column to depths greater than 150 meters [3]

The giant oil plumes in the Gulf extend from just below the surface to more than 1000 feet deep [4]. It is very reasonable to believe that a major hurricane would bring these plumes to the surface where the Corexit-oil droplets would be frothed into the air by wave action.

THIS IS IMPORTANT! IT MEANS THAT THE COREXIT-OIL DROPLETS WOULD BE CONVERTED INTO AN AEROSOL FORM. MOREOVER, THE AEROSOL WOULD CARRY A NEGATIVE CHARGE DUE TO THE ANIONIC GROUPS ON THE DROPLET SURFACE. ELECTRICALLY CHARGED AEROSOLS FACILITATE PARTICULATE PENETRATION INTO THE HUMAN LUNG! [5]

The Bio-warfare Connection

Ok, so we have an aerosol of tiny oil droplets covered with surfactant (aka micelles) delivered into the human lung. Wouldn't you know it? Micelles are an excellent way to deliver hydrophobic drugs, proteins, genetic
material, etc. into the human body! In general, it is
very difficult to deliver hydrophobic therapeutics into the body. Micelles facilitate the delivery because the therapeutic is dissolved in the "oil" phase contained in the droplet, but the droplet itself is water soluble due to the surfactant molecules on its surface. [6]

Are you with me so far? The only missing ingredient here is the "therapeutic". What is it? Is it a protein? Is it a DNA fragment? Is it some type of drug? What is its intended purpose?

Practicalities of a Bio-warfare Attack

So why go through all this trouble to carry out a bio-warfare attack? Why not dump the agent directly on the targeted population using, say chemtrails or something? There are a few reasons that come to mind:
1) If the agent requires a "package" (e.g. micelles) to be delivered to the human body, it would be very difficult to conduct a large-scale operation that impacts such a large population simultaneously.
2) Chemtrail spraying would have to be conducted at high altitude to keep from arousing suspicion, especially for a large-scale, short duration attack. The aerosol particles would be kept aloft in the troposphere and very little would actually make it to the target.
3) Releasing a biowarfare agent in massive quantities could easily be accomplished by a single ship operating amidst an armada of oil skimming and other support vessels. VERY EASY TO MAINTAIN SECRECY OF OPERATION. SIMPLY DUMP AGENT INTO OIL PLUMES SO THAT IT IS INCORPORATED INTO THE MICELLES.
4) Plausible deniability - when people start dropping like flies the full wrath of the population will be directed toward BP, who as we all know by now, kept spraying the dispersant in spite of the EPA telling them to stop.



I hope you read all of this. I hope it makes a difference. I may be wrong about some things, but the argument I have just presented makes a hell of a lot of sense to me personally. Please tell me what you think.
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Interesting. Whether it is a conspiracy theory or a conspiracy remains to be seen
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OP I have 5 starred you coz I know you went to some effort getting this on here.
Someone is gonna ask you to link it.
What was the story bout that?
4by2 mentioned you might be tripping the sites bots.
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Here are the references I have tried so hard to communicate. Have no idea why it has been so hard. Anyways:

[1] - Can't seem to find a complete citation
Search Google for: "Chemical Dispersants for the
Control of Oil Spills" Should be first link. Book by
L. T. McCarthy

[2] - C. Hu and F.E. Muller-Karger. GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 34, L07606, 5 PP., 2007

[3] - L-Y Oey et al. Geophysical Research Letters. Vol. 33, no. 8, pp. [vp]. Apr. 2006

[4] - www.nola.com - Article by Chris Kirkham, "Underwater oil plumes confirmed in Gulf by scientists" June 8, 2010.

[5] - Prodi V. and Mularoni A. Ann. occup. Hyg., Vol. 29, No. 2, pp. 229-240, 1985

[6] - Lawrence M. J. and Rees G. D. Advanced Drug Delivery Reviews. Volume 45, Issue 1, 6 December 2000, Pages 89-121
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It's pretty much a given that there are groups on this earth that want to kill off vast numbers of people. They seem to be searching for a viable means to accomplish their goal, ala bird flu and swine flu and aids and ebola and marburg virus, etc.

I remember reading about Hitler searching for a solution to his "problem" - they couldn't afford to use bullets, as millions would be required, but someone hit upon the use of Zyklon-B poison gas as a cost effective measure.

While all that was going on, who would have believed such evil was possible? Normal people don't spend their days plotting large scale murder.

I think that's why most people have a hard time believing anyone would be planning similar evil in these days, because they can't believe such filth exists. But I have stared evil in the eye and know it exists, and sometimes even has a charming smile.

While I hope your hypothesis proves wrong, I think it is entirely possible. Good job of analysis and explanation, OP. Thanks.
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With only five posts, there are already four votes of five stars each...

Wonder if the mods will pin this, nah probably not...you forgot to say BREAKING in the title.... :)
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It's pretty much a given that there are groups on this earth that want to kill off vast numbers of people. They seem to be searching for a viable means to accomplish their goal, ala bird flu and swine flu and aids and ebola and marburg virus, etc.

I remember reading about Hitler searching for a solution to his "problem" - they couldn't afford to use bullets, as millions would be required, but someone hit upon the use of Zyklon-B poison gas as a cost effective measure.

While all that was going on, who would have believed such evil was possible? Normal people don't spend their days plotting large scale murder.

I think that's why most people have a hard time believing anyone would be planning similar evil in these days, because they can't believe such filth exists. But I have stared evil in the eye and know it exists, and sometimes even has a charming smile.

While I hope your hypothesis proves wrong, I think it is entirely possible. Good job of analysis and explanation, OP. Thanks.
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I hope I'm wrong too man. I don't really feel too human by diving so deep into such esoteric and depressing thoughts. At any rate, you have no idea how hard it was for me to post this thread. I am actually in shock that it is still up. I am not kidding, I have tried to post this same exact thread at least 6 times only to be banned and my post deleted. Why? I really can't understand it. Especially now that it is being left alone. Why is it okay now? Just very bizarre I think.
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bump for pin.... Ahhem....
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"mods gave me permission" "mods gave me permission" Fuck the mods. Grow a dick.
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Eleven posts and nine five-star votes...still no pin...

BUMP for anyone fortunate enough to notice the thread.

Good night all....

p.s. OP, I'm a woman :)
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That's insidious OP. Truly Machiavellian.
I like it.

Filters and masks are a priority now. Same with MOPP suits and the like.
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guns do not kill, bullets can...
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The same people that brought you 911 the false flag, to commence the NEVER ENDING WARS OF terror for satanic Israel, are responsible for the false flag in the Gulf.

They commanded you to attack Iran and you have refused..

This is their response.

Shock and awe ring any bells.
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5 star work OP.


"Shock and awe ring any bells"

Say "Shock and Awe" fast and then look up Shekinah.
They had us invoking something having to do with jewish mysticism.
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It seems that the last part of my post is missing:

Another important question is why not just release a virus or bacteria upon the population? I believe that this may have already been tried with the swine flu. The problem is that in order to have a truly dramatic impact, you must have a pathogen that is easily transmitted, resistant to mutation and is relatively protected from attack by the human immune system. Well, viruses are certainly easy to transmit and can be almost impossible to defend against, but they mutate constantly. When you combine mutation frequency with transmission frequency, it becomes very unlikely that any particular virus will have a significant impact. Bacteria are much less likely to mutate, but they are more susceptible to immune system attack.

Remember, the primary goal of a bio-warfare attack is shock and awe. It is not so much about how many people you kill rather than coercing the surviving population into complete submission. It is the final blow...it is the breaking of the back of this country. We will be delivered into the hands of the perpetrators.

But knowledge is power I firmly believe. And the book is not quite written yet.
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five stars
interesting

i know how to purify water with blessings... same as making holy water... do you?
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always ask permission.
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bump because it well may be part 1 of a binary... watch for part 2 at a theatre near you...
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This is an intriguing and terrifying concept. 5 stars for you, my friend.
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That's insidious OP. Truly Machiavellian.
I like it.

Filters and masks are a priority now. Same with MOPP suits and the like.
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MOPP suits won't do you much good once it gets into the food supply. or destroys the food supply altogether.

BP Oil Dispersant Suspected in Mysterious Widespread Crop Damage
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Explains re-positioning of New Orleans residents by Katrina.
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5 stars for you here too. Thanks so much OP. You are working hard and we appreciate it. I hope you are wrong, but if you aren't, you might save some lives.
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