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Illuminati's answer to MARIJUANA

 
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Hey OP, and others I just found a story in the MSM about this shit....


[link to seattletimes.nwsource.com]
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fixed

[link to seattletimes.nwsource.com]
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a blend of herbs sprayed with various man-made chemicals

Wow this makes a lot of sense. Something exists in nature, that anyone can grow, use, and benefit from. Then TPTB make this illegal. Then they create a substance in a chemistry lab that does kinda the same thing, sell it, and make money.

wtf
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a blend of herbs sprayed with various man-made chemicals

Wow this makes a lot of sense. Something exists in nature, that anyone can grow, use, and benefit from. Then TPTB make this illegal. Then they create a substance in a chemistry lab that does kinda the same thing, sell it, and make money.

wtf
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Yes the illegal drug trade wasn't enough profit for the big dogs apparently. Seems power is the most addictive drug of them all...
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If they're providing a synthetic "replacement" for weed you can bet your ass there's a catch!

I know most of the pot smokers are hard core addicts and refuse to give it up but you really NEED to stop doing drugs of any kind. All drugs come with a price! Look at yourself and all your dope smokin buddies...notice anything?
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Dunno what you are talking about, and don't really care, because straight up natural marijuana is easy to acquire and consume, and is well on it's way to being de-prohibited.

Especially as taxing it would make our governments quite a lot of money, which is important to them in these economic times heh



5a
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They have just made that legal form of MJ. illegal in my state. No fun for us! No party, no drinkin!No pills(even if one needs em! geez, what is this world coming to!
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If they're providing a synthetic "replacement" for weed you can bet your ass there's a catch!

I know most of the pot smokers are hard core addicts and refuse to give it up but you really NEED to stop doing drugs of any kind. All drugs come with a price! Look at yourself and all your dope smokin buddies...notice anything?
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Why are you so self righteous? I know plenty of successful stoners. Get a grip, lady.
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If they're providing a synthetic "replacement" for weed you can bet your ass there's a catch!

I know most of the pot smokers are hard core addicts and refuse to give it up but you really NEED to stop doing drugs of any kind. All drugs come with a price! Look at yourself and all your dope smokin buddies...notice anything?


Why are you so self righteous? I know plenty of successful stoners. Get a grip, lady.
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why so defensive ? - hmm ?
(and a littl bit aggressive , too)
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I grew up immersed in D.A.R.E. propoganda about marijuana and it gets pretty annoying when the old stereotypes are thrown around by a tight lipped liberal.
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Dunno what you are talking about, and don't really care, because straight up natural marijuana is easy to acquire and consume, and is well on it's way to being de-prohibited.

Especially as taxing it would make our governments quite a lot of money, which is important to them in these economic times heh



5a

They have just made that legal form of MJ. illegal in my state. No fun for us! No party, no drinkin!No pills(even if one needs em! geez, what is this world coming to!
 Quoting: MOMMA K 1019553

Well yeah i'm a little miffed about it.so what! can't speak the truth?
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07/11/2010 12:59 PM
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a lot of the research into those chemicals where fronted by mega corporate/gov officials.. men such as alexander shulgin..

but... spraying that on herbs is just another money hustle, those substances are available to those who know how to find them... it's not a far stretch to believe that someone who knows about these chemicals, and there legal loopholes, will have the ability to exploit them.

marijuana court is a goldmine for the system.. federal and state.
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a lot of the research into those chemicals where fronted by mega corporate/gov officials.. men such as alexander shulgin..

but... spraying that on herbs is just another money hustle, those substances are available to those who know how to find them... it's not a far stretch to believe that someone who knows about these chemicals, and there legal loopholes, will have the ability to exploit them.

marijuana court is a goldmine for the system.. federal and state.[\b]
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I just posted some information here that you will need to see. Thread: The smoke spice, JWH-018, K2 Warning You need to see this!
It is what people put into this stuff.
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i saw that, it seems jwh-018 is readily absorbable by acetone, and evaporates quickly
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bump
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Just because it is legal does not mean you are going to dig it. I would advise that before attempting any unknown first find someone else with experience. Going into a dark room alone might make you feel brave at first but that brave feeling will turn into chaos if you have no one to guide you. Be aware of your time! Time is a big deal. If you don't have your own place I'd advice avoiding any legal high for one simple reason. When you are very high you are at risk to outside attack from anyone who observes your out of control behavior. "I can handle anything" is a motto for the fool because you can't. Know your limits.

Last points... Know your path of retreat. If you do want to fall back to safe location make that choice before you go in, not after. Also keep breathing! Laugh if you want but some of these chemicals can cause you to stop breathing. Watch a few of your friends go out cold blue and you'll rethink your entire life. Stay crazy and have fun.

stoner
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a bump for the kids getting home from school
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any 420 tokers?

this bud's for you

or incense
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bump for anyone interested ?

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Synthetic marijuana, marketed as K2 or Spice, is an herbal substance sold as an incense or smoking material that remains legal in the United States. The products contain one or more synthetic compounds that behave similarly to the primary psychoactive constituent of marijuana, Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol or THC.

The compound most commonly found in these products is a chemical first synthesized by the well-known Clemson University organic chemist, Prof John W Huffman: the eponymous JWH-018. Another compound, found in Spice products sold in Germany, is an analog of CP-47,497, a cannabinoid developed by Pfizer over 20 years ago.

What does it do?
Much of the biological assessment work of Dr. Huffman's compounds was carried out by the laboratory of Professor Billy R. Martin of the Medical College of Virginia. Dr. Martin, a native of North Carolina, was a giant in the field and sadly left us two summers ago at the all-too-young age of 65 (obituary).

According to this 2000 paper in Drug and Alcohol Dependence from the Huffman and Martin groups, JWH-018 binds to the psychotropic CB1 receptor with approximately 4 times the potency of the naturally-occurring THC. Unlike THC, which binds with almost equal affinity to CB1 and CB2 receptors, JWH-018 exhibits a 3-fold preference for CB1 receptors.

What does this mean? Well, the CB1 receptor is the primary means by which cannabinoids exert their psychotropic effects. The CB2 receptor, on the other hand, appears to be more involved in pain and inflammation and is therefore a very active area of research for new therapeutics.

So while JWH-018 has four-fold greater potency for CB1 receptors than THC in an isolated receptor binding study, how its effect compares to plain-old marijuana depends on other factors such as the relative amount in the product, how stable it is to combustion, how it's metabolized in the body, among others.
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They don't make money on marijuana, they make money on coke and heroine.

Marijuana will slowly be legalized, everywhere.
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Holland lead the way in such areas. I have visited the Netherlands many times and just Amsterdam. Your people are far more pro-active and eduated in such things i dont know why thw world didn't adopt the Netherlander way. Oh wait i do its far to civilised and intelligent.

Peace.
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Illegal or not ive smoked it everyday for the past 15 years. Know around 20 people to get it of locally and more if i need to drive. i spend half my wages each week on weed and it doesnt go into the economy. if they legalise it globally, then our economies will flourish. eveyone is a stoner right? just dont give us crap stuff or we will continue to buy it from people growing it in their houses.
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wtf bonghit
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If they're providing a synthetic "replacement" for weed you can bet your ass there's a catch!

I know most of the pot smokers are hard core addicts and refuse to give it up but you really NEED to stop doing drugs of any kind. All drugs come with a price! Look at yourself and all your dope smokin buddies...notice anything?
 Quoting: domesticangel

potkettle

No offense intended but you look like your quite fond of the Alcohol and i do mean fond.

peace
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Illegal or not ive smoked it everyday for the past 15 years. Know around 20 people to get it of locally and more if i need to drive. i spend half my wages each week on weed and it doesnt go into the economy. if they legalise it globally, then our economies will flourish. eveyone is a stoner right? just dont give us crap stuff or we will continue to buy it from people growing it in their houses.
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forgot to say, they cant stop us!
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Ermmmmm hellO MCFLY it's 2010 , your online learn how to grow GANJA learn how to aquire seeds plant the fuckers water light and free smoke ffs buying legal weed.
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All drugs come with a price! Look at yourself and all your dope smokin buddies...notice anything?
 Quoting: domesticangel


We are relaxed? Do not feel the need to tell others what to do with their lives or what toxins to consume?

everyone has their drug. some are taxed, some are bought on the black market. thats the only difference.
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Listen up you FUCKS....

Here is a list of what I have accomplished at 31 years old.

1. College Degree
2. 5 successful businesses created (3 were sold for between $50,000 and $250,000 - the other 2 I currently still own and operate)
3. I own 2 SUVs, a Nissan 350Z, a 30' speedboat and I am co-owner of a fishing boat.
4. I own 2 ATVs.
5. I own my own home.
6. I am married with a young child and planning on 1 or 2 more (because I am financially capable of supporting them).
7. I run my businesses from my laptop computer (i.e. I have no office)
8. I hang out at casinos around the USA & Canada playing roulette for fun... why? because I can, and because I know how to generally win at roulette.


Oh and by the way, I have smoked copious amounts of WEED - EVERY SINGLE DAY since the age of 17.

14 years x 365 days x 5-10 bong hits per day = 25,000 - 50,000 bong hits!!!!!!!

I am not a lazy stoner. I enjoy weed to the fullest, yet I am still wonderfully successful. Ask my wife if she had fun in the Bahamas this past February. Ask her if weed is a problem for her.....

The weed discussion is fucking stupid - just like most of the people on this website and in this crazy fucked up world.

Life is what you make of it... but weed is not the problem.

[This was mostly directed at the loser that was saying people should give up drugs of ANY kind.... that's just ludicrous!]
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14 years x 365 days x 5-10 bong hits per day = 25,000 - 50,000 bong hits!!!!!!!

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clappa
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Ermmmmm hellO MCFLY it's 2010 , your online learn how to grow GANJA learn how to aquire seeds plant the fuckers water light and free smoke ffs buying legal weed.
 Quoting: Four-Twenty


Some people don't want to accept criminal side effects if they were to happen. Others are drug tested by their jobs. Some are on parole and tested. There's a bunch of reasons people are smoking this stuff. I'd love to just have a big old grow room, with different strains of weed growing in buckets, but it's not sane for me right now.
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anyone else get an anti weed ad in this topic?

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