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July 11, 2010 and TimeWave Zero

 
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Using a slightly different number set, Sheliak has determined that today marks the beginning of a period of extreme novelty. Hooray!!! If this is true, we will begin to see new and exciting changes in our consciousness and world events as we move ever closer to zero point.

As time folds upon itself in smaller and smaller cycles, the illusion of time speeding up becomes greater and greater.


:timewave7_11-10:

From:
[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]

Clearly this is quite different from the 2010 timewave obtained with either the Kelley number set or the Watkins number set, so the Sheliak number set cannot be called simply a "correction". It is quite different, and no reason has ever been given for why it is so different from the timewave originally revealed to Terence McKenna, except perhaps that the Sheliak construction is completely misconceived.



-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

As noted above, the Watkins number set is the Kelley number set without the "half-twist". Some have inferred from the name given to the Watkins number set that Matthew Watkins discovered the half-twist. This is not so. Peter Meyer discovered this in 1994. Later, when naming the four number sets, he gave the name "Watkins" to the Kelley number set without the half-twist, since he felt it would be immodest to name it after himself, and Matthew Watkins had made a contribution to Timewave Zero theory by condensing the construction (from the I Ching) of the numbers in the Kelley set to a single formula. Ths formula (stated in the programming language MAPLE) is given in his article Autopsy for a Mathematical Hallucination?. In that article Matthew Watkins quotes the footnote in the user manual that Peter Meyer wrote in 1994 for an earlier version of the Timewave Zero software:


This is the mysterious "half twist". The reason for this is not well understood at present and is a question which awaits further research.
Watkins concludes that, because no reason could be given (by Terence McKenna or by anyone else) for the existence of the half-twist in the original construction, "the 'timewave' cannot be taken to be what McKenna claims it is." But since he does not say exactly what McKenna claims it is, we are left not knowing quite what to make of this conclusion.



From:
[link to www.buddhatrance.com]

Although the timewave isn’t physically a spiral, events along the timeline match up when the thread is laid out in a spiral fashion. With the outside of the spiral representing the past, time progressing twists inwards until it eventually reaches the centre and stops. Draw a line from the centre out to any point on the edge and events along that line will have intimate connections even though thousands of years may separate them. As you get closer to the centre, events appear closer together, indeed they may seem to overlap. Just before the end of the spiral, the last few moments will hold the significance of all previous moments.


timespiral


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Terence McKenna – “We are on the brink of making the quantum leap to the conquest of another dimension by obliterating our fixity in time. And then we will migrate into the future. Each into our own future. And then human history is looked back on as a nightmare awakened from, a brutal but necessary interval to being happily kissed goodbye.”
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I think this is something that all the July 11 Doomers forget - the date may not mark an actual event, so much as an 'increase in novelty' or an inflection point. It could be a relatively small event that morphs into something huge as novelty increases.
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I don't want to sound like I am being sarcastic, because this is an honest question. What exactly is Timewave Zero? Please explain in layperson terms. hf
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I don't want to sound like I am being sarcastic, because this is an honest question. What exactly is Timewave Zero? Please explain in layperson terms. hf
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Time isn't linear , like you've always been taught.

It is fractal.
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I think this is something that all the July 11 Doomers forget - the date may not mark an actual event, so much as an 'increase in novelty' or an inflection point. It could be a relatively small event that morphs into something huge as novelty increases.
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Exactly. According to this particular number set which is different from McKenna's original model, today is just the beginning of a cycle moving towards complete novelty. A subtle movement might be detected by those sensitive to both consciousness and Earth changes.

The GCP dot is orange, indicating an increased network variance. This would collaborate Zero point theory.

[link to gcpdot.com]
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Yeah. Good news. Thanks OP.
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The date is being marked by a Full Solar Eclipse today.

From Earth Changes Media

Breaking News
FULL SOLAR ECLIPSE TOMORROW
By Earth Changes Media
Jul 10, 2010 - 11:52:29 AM

A group of astronomers are now on the mysterious Easter Island, one of the few solid places to stand on Earth where a total solar eclipse will be visible on July 11, 2010.

The majority of the eclipse's path is over the ocean, so this will be one of the least observed eclipses ever. "This is one of the most interesting things that is possible for anyone on Earth to see in one of the most interesting places on the Earth that people can go," said Jay Pasachoff from Williams College, who is the Chair of the International Astronomical Union's Working Group on Eclipses.

While the eclipse is thousands of miles long in its is path of totality on Earth, it is just a few hundred miles wide. It will pass through French Polynesia on the Cook Islands, but, Pasachoff said, it doesn't go through any of the main islands. "It misses Tahiti, but there are some atolls off the side of the path, and some eclipse scientists and ecotourists will be on cruise ships that are going into the path of totality. There will also be a group on an airplane observing the eclipse and we hope to compare all the other observations with the ones we get from Easter Island," he said.

Easter Island is 4023 km (2,500 miles) west of Chile, and is famous for the Moai, giant statutes that were left by a Polynesian culture that mysteriously disappeared. But while the statues' constant gaze look outward, all human eyes will be on the skies on July 11.

"The actual four minutes and forty-five seconds of totality that we are scheduled to have at Easter Island will be very exciting, as the last sliver of the Sun is covered we can then take off the protective filters we've been using," Pasachoff said, "and look at the next few minutes without any protection because the solar corona is about the same brightness as the full moon and is equally safe to look at.

In fact we've been having a debate recently about whether we can get a very brief warning on the so-called eclipse glasses that many people use because those glasses are only for when any of the everyday Sun is visible. They are so dense that they block the solar corona entirely, and the few people who don't understand what is going on enough to take those glasses off during totality miss the whole event. There are people who have missed past eclipses by not knowing they had to take their glasses off."

Pasachoff is joined by Professor Marek Demianski and two students. They will be carrying out high-resolution imaging to look for motions in the corona and to follow the varying magnetic-field configuration in the solar-corona as a function of the solar-activity cycle. Though the Sunspot cycle remains in an extreme low, some other indications of solar activity have been increasing and we are eager to see the condition of the low and middle corona. They expect to see motions at least in polar plumes.

Also, they will be using the images to fill in gaps between the observations of the corona on the solar disk taken with NASA's new Solar Dynamics Observatory and the observations of the outer corona taken with the Naval Research Laboratory's coronagraph on the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory. Pasachoff and his team have contributed to similar images for the past several eclipses but now will have the improved SDO images as part of their montage. Several of the cameras will be computer controlled using software called Solar Eclipse Maestro written by Xavier Jubier of France.

The Williams College team is accompanied by a documentary crew filming for National Geographic Channel, and their activities will be covered in a special program entitled Easter Island Eclipse partly pre-recorded and partly expected to have new eclipse footage that will air on the National Geographic Channel on the evening of July 11th, at 11 pm.

Here are some resource Pasachoff provided for the eclipse:

On Sunday, July 11th: total solar eclipse on Easter Island (same time zone as Mountain Time in the US)

- Partial eclipse begins 12:40:36 Altitude of Sun: 40°
- Totality begins 14:08:30 Altitude of Sun: 40°
- Totality ends 14:13:10 Altitude of Sun: 39°
- Partial eclipse ends 15:34:16 Altitude of Sun: 32°
- Duration of totality: 4 minutes and 40 seconds

Times in UT:
- 18:40 UT 1st contact
- 20:08 UT 2nd contact: total eclipse begins
- 20:13 UT 3rd contact: total eclipse ends

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I think this is something that all the July 11 Doomers forget - the date may not mark an actual event, so much as an 'increase in novelty' or an inflection point. It could be a relatively small event that morphs into something huge as novelty increases.
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very good point! or it could be the interloper is in the daytime sky for keeps.
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I think this is something that all the July 11 Doomers forget - the date may not mark an actual event, so much as an 'increase in novelty' or an inflection point. It could be a relatively small event that morphs into something huge as novelty increases.
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Exactly, the novelty will BE RELEASED IN FULL FORCE ON NOV 8TH-11TH..SEE TIMEWAVE GRAPH.
2010 IS A BANNER YEAR TO PREPARE HUMANITY FOR THE ENDPOINT OF 2012
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I think this is something that all the July 11 Doomers forget - the date may not mark an actual event, so much as an 'increase in novelty' or an inflection point. It could be a relatively small event that morphs into something huge as novelty increases.
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The US will finally embrace soccer?
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weird weird times
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He calls it novelty but why does it end and what did he say about that?
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The novelty jump begins at 9: 47 pm GMT...
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Of course there's also something that Timewavers forget:

Timewave Zero is a bunch of bullshit:

[link to www.ralph-abraham.org]

You can read TM explaining how they artifically shifted the end date of TZ to match the Mayan calendar.

In other words, it didn't predicts the 2012 thing at all.
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HAHAHAHAH! NOTHING is going to happen. You spent all that time and energy of your precious life to that self-fulfilling prophecy and......
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Of course there's also something that Timewavers forget:

Timewave Zero is a bunch of bullshit:

[link to www.ralph-abraham.org]

You can read TM explaining how they artifically shifted the end date of TZ to match the Mayan calendar.

In other words, it didn't predicts the 2012 thing at all.
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I'm aware that original date was November 16 2012, although I think they discovered a mistake that led to December 21 choice too...
Or maybe December 21 2012 is the mistake and real date is November 16.

Maybe you don't know but I checked up and all historical repetitions occur 22 to 29 days before predicted...

1848 riots, turmoil - May 25 2010- April 28-30 2010 Greece

Civil War in asiatic country - June 11 2010 - May 13 2010 Thailand

1861 Civil War is set to happen between July 12-19 and August 9 2010...
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Of course there's also something that Timewavers forget:

Timewave Zero is a bunch of bullshit:

[link to www.ralph-abraham.org]

You can read TM explaining how they artifically shifted the end date of TZ to match the Mayan calendar.

In other words, it didn't predicts the 2012 thing at all.
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I'm totally sure that you didn't looked into it a single bit...

It predicted to the hour the economic collapse of 2008 and also February 7 2009, April 24 2009, June 25 2009, January 12 2010, February 27 2010, April 14 2010.
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I don't want to sound like I am being sarcastic, because this is an honest question. What exactly is Timewave Zero? Please explain in layperson terms. hf


Time isn't linear , like you've always been taught.

It is fractal.
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What does Fractal mean?
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Of course there's also something that Timewavers forget:

Timewave Zero is a bunch of bullshit:

[link to www.ralph-abraham.org]

You can read TM explaining how they artifically shifted the end date of TZ to match the Mayan calendar.

In other words, it didn't predicts the 2012 thing at all.


I'm totally sure that you didn't looked into it a single bit...

It predicted to the hour the economic collapse of 2008 and also February 7 2009, April 24 2009, June 25 2009, January 12 2010, February 27 2010, April 14 2010.
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McKenna agreed to become part of an experiment while he was there in taking this substance to see how far the expanses of his mind could be opened. He described being in perfect communication with the divine source of knowledge and enlightenment (known to him as the Source, or by the Greek name, Logos). This experience prompted him to study the ancient philosophies of the King Wen sequence of the IChing and to develop some very controversial theories from it. His first book, "The Invisible Landscape... Mind Hallucinogens and the IChing", written in 1975, was inspired by these readings and experiences. One of these theories discussed is the Novelty theory.

Events such as the discovery of fire and how to use it, creating weaponry for defense, natural disasters, creating machinery to hasten work times, devastating illnesses (such as the Black Plague), higher technology... all fell into a pattern, according to this graph. Kemp and his colleagues took it a step further... taking this graph into the future. In doing so, he found that the speed at which new ideas and concepts comes to a curve... in 2012. The exact date he landed on is up for debate. It is said that he used the bombing of Hiroshima as a point of reference, and he actually hit November of 2012 by his graph's standards... moving it up only after hearing of the Mayan calendar. However, he insisted that the date was December 21, 2012... the same date that the Mayan calendar ends... and he insisted he had no previous knowledge of the Mayan Long Count Calendar at the time.
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Using a slightly different number set, Sheliak has determined that today marks the beginning of a period of extreme novelty. Hooray!!! If this is true, we will begin to see new and exciting changes in our consciousness and world events as we move ever closer to zero point.

As time folds upon itself in smaller and smaller cycles, the illusion of time speeding up becomes greater and greater.


timewave7_11-10

From:
[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]

Clearly this is quite different from the 2010 timewave obtained with either the Kelley number set or the Watkins number set, so the Sheliak number set cannot be called simply a "correction". It is quite different, and no reason has ever been given for why it is so different from the timewave originally revealed to Terence McKenna, except perhaps that the Sheliak construction is completely misconceived.



-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

As noted above, the Watkins number set is the Kelley number set without the "half-twist". Some have inferred from the name given to the Watkins number set that Matthew Watkins discovered the half-twist. This is not so. Peter Meyer discovered this in 1994. Later, when naming the four number sets, he gave the name "Watkins" to the Kelley number set without the half-twist, since he felt it would be immodest to name it after himself, and Matthew Watkins had made a contribution to Timewave Zero theory by condensing the construction (from the I Ching) of the numbers in the Kelley set to a single formula. Ths formula (stated in the programming language MAPLE) is given in his article Autopsy for a Mathematical Hallucination?. In that article Matthew Watkins quotes the footnote in the user manual that Peter Meyer wrote in 1994 for an earlier version of the Timewave Zero software:


This is the mysterious "half twist". The reason for this is not well understood at present and is a question which awaits further research.
Watkins concludes that, because no reason could be given (by Terence McKenna or by anyone else) for the existence of the half-twist in the original construction, "the 'timewave' cannot be taken to be what McKenna claims it is." But since he does not say exactly what McKenna claims it is, we are left not knowing quite what to make of this conclusion.



From:
[link to www.buddhatrance.com]

Although the timewave isn’t physically a spiral, events along the timeline match up when the thread is laid out in a spiral fashion. With the outside of the spiral representing the past, time progressing twists inwards until it eventually reaches the centre and stops. Draw a line from the centre out to any point on the edge and events along that line will have intimate connections even though thousands of years may separate them. As you get closer to the centre, events appear closer together, indeed they may seem to overlap. Just before the end of the spiral, the last few moments will hold the significance of all previous moments.


timespiral


[link to www.youtube.com]





Terence McKenna was an acid dropping freak show that's teh source of much amusement 4 interweb. That dead tar singlehandedly has exponentially added to the stupidity of the enter human race and dumbfukedness of the interweb. He had a special type of older than coal stupid that is now world renown, get it.
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Of course there's also something that Timewavers forget:

Timewave Zero is a bunch of bullshit:

[link to www.ralph-abraham.org]

You can read TM explaining how they artifically shifted the end date of TZ to match the Mayan calendar.

In other words, it didn't predicts the 2012 thing at all.


I'm aware that original date was November 16 2012, although I think they discovered a mistake that led to December 21 choice too...
Or maybe December 21 2012 is the mistake and real date is November 16.

Maybe you don't know but I checked up and all historical repetitions occur 22 to 29 days before predicted...

1848 riots, turmoil - May 25 2010- April 28-30 2010 Greece

Civil War in asiatic country - June 11 2010 - May 13 2010 Thailand

1861 Civil War is set to happen between July 12-19 and August 9 2010...
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They didn't discover any mistake, they deliberately moved it.

Go read that interview.

Predictions are just people guessing a bunch of times and occasionally being right.

Today is a PERFECT example of that.

TZ is nonsense.
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as it is now ... things are so 'novel' that I just don't know if they can get any more 'novel'



but ... I have heard it said many times ...

"Just when you thought things couldn't get any stranger ..."



yes ... we certainly do live in interesting times
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Of course there's also something that Timewavers forget:

Timewave Zero is a bunch of bullshit:

[link to www.ralph-abraham.org]

You can read TM explaining how they artifically shifted the end date of TZ to match the Mayan calendar.

In other words, it didn't predicts the 2012 thing at all.


I'm aware that original date was November 16 2012, although I think they discovered a mistake that led to December 21 choice too...
Or maybe December 21 2012 is the mistake and real date is November 16.

Maybe you don't know but I checked up and all historical repetitions occur 22 to 29 days before predicted...

1848 riots, turmoil - May 25 2010- April 28-30 2010 Greece

Civil War in asiatic country - June 11 2010 - May 13 2010 Thailand

1861 Civil War is set to happen between July 12-19 and August 9 2010...


They didn't discover any mistake, they deliberately moved it.

Go read that interview.

Predictions are just people guessing a bunch of times and occasionally being right.

Today is a PERFECT example of that.

TZ is nonsense.
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I guess when 12/21/2012 comes you can say that then if nothing happens and it does not mean the world ends either..
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I don't want to sound like I am being sarcastic, because this is an honest question. What exactly is Timewave Zero? Please explain in layperson terms. hf


Time isn't linear , like you've always been taught.

It is fractal.


What does Fractal mean?
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Fractal: A geometric pattern that is repeated at ever smaller scales to produce irregular shapes and surfaces that cannot be represented by classical geometry. Fractals are used especially in computer modeling of irregular patterns and structures in nature.

In the context of time and consciousness, we are ever expanding our consciousness in repetitive patterns over shorter periods of time. The irregularity of the shape of the fractal(outward events) is held together by the overall symmetry of the golden ratio (fibanacci sequence). In this way, time and consciousness are linked together.


:fractal time:
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Of course there's also something that Timewavers forget:

Timewave Zero is a bunch of bullshit:

[link to www.ralph-abraham.org]


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the 2012 is one thing. the timewave theory is another. it just happens that there is something about 2012 that prompted terrence and others to experiment with this date, and the results are amazing.

shut the fuck up.
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Using a slightly different number set, Sheliak has determined that today marks the beginning of a period of extreme novelty. Hooray!!! If this is true, we will begin to see new and exciting changes in our consciousness and world events as we move ever closer to zero point.

As time folds upon itself in smaller and smaller cycles, the illusion of time speeding up becomes greater and greater.


:timewave7_11-10:

From:
[link to www.fractal-timewave.com]

Clearly this is quite different from the 2010 timewave obtained with either the Kelley number set or the Watkins number set, so the Sheliak number set cannot be called simply a "correction". It is quite different, and no reason has ever been given for why it is so different from the timewave originally revealed to Terence McKenna, except perhaps that the Sheliak construction is completely misconceived.



-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

As noted above, the Watkins number set is the Kelley number set without the "half-twist". Some have inferred from the name given to the Watkins number set that Matthew Watkins discovered the half-twist. This is not so. Peter Meyer discovered this in 1994. Later, when naming the four number sets, he gave the name "Watkins" to the Kelley number set without the half-twist, since he felt it would be immodest to name it after himself, and Matthew Watkins had made a contribution to Timewave Zero theory by condensing the construction (from the I Ching) of the numbers in the Kelley set to a single formula. Ths formula (stated in the programming language MAPLE) is given in his article Autopsy for a Mathematical Hallucination?. In that article Matthew Watkins quotes the footnote in the user manual that Peter Meyer wrote in 1994 for an earlier version of the Timewave Zero software:


This is the mysterious "half twist". The reason for this is not well understood at present and is a question which awaits further research.
Watkins concludes that, because no reason could be given (by Terence McKenna or by anyone else) for the existence of the half-twist in the original construction, "the 'timewave' cannot be taken to be what McKenna claims it is." But since he does not say exactly what McKenna claims it is, we are left not knowing quite what to make of this conclusion.



From:
[link to www.buddhatrance.com]

Although the timewave isn’t physically a spiral, events along the timeline match up when the thread is laid out in a spiral fashion. With the outside of the spiral representing the past, time progressing twists inwards until it eventually reaches the centre and stops. Draw a line from the centre out to any point on the edge and events along that line will have intimate connections even though thousands of years may separate them. As you get closer to the centre, events appear closer together, indeed they may seem to overlap. Just before the end of the spiral, the last few moments will hold the significance of all previous moments.


:timespiral:


[link to www.youtube.com]





Terence McKenna – “We are on the brink of making the quantum leap to the conquest of another dimension by obliterating our fixity in time. And then we will migrate into the future. Each into our own future. And then human history is looked back on as a nightmare awakened from, a brutal but necessary interval to being happily kissed goodbye.”
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Sweet AV there OP !

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