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JoeNeubarth (OP) User ID: 752389 United States 07/12/2010 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how after almost everybody is killed it says that Jesus personally kills the REMNANT. And the birds eat their bodies. 1st Place in Novel Sales for 6 yrs! [link to www.mobipocket.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1033741 United States 07/12/2010 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I woul;d claim the problem with any religious text is : If it were based on 100% truths and actually revealed the correct entity that had 100% power over al lthings, then the TPTB would never have allowed it to get into the hands of the peons in society. The fact that these texts are circulated to the masses, is more proof that it is lies and really benefits the corrupt elite. Some peopel are starting to catch on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 07/12/2010 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how after almost everybody is killed it says that Jesus personally kills the REMNANT. And the birds eat their bodies. Quoting: JoeNeubarthAnother problem is people impose their interpretations on scripture instead of letting it speak for itself in context. The verse you are alluding to is more likely the remnant of those who have escaped the tribulation but are not born again believers in Christ. Just because the translators used the word "remnant" doesn't imply the remnant of the tribe of Judah. If you are going to interpret the scripture that way, at least have the courtesy of saying, in my opinion, IMO and then provide some grammatical justification for your opinion so others like myself who are judgmental are not tempted to stumble and immediately call you an idiot. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 750445 United States 07/12/2010 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that these texts are circulated to the masses, is more proof that it is lies and really benefits the corrupt elite Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1033741uhh .. not quite. first - the texts arent really "circulated" to anyone. they're PURCHASED & GIVEN by believers who want to see it in others hands. second - every attempt humanly possible has been made to eradicate the Bible. third - if God wants His Word to "remain" .. its gonna remain. and there isnt *ANYTHING* *ANYONE* can do to stop it. |
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JoeNeubarth (OP) User ID: 752389 United States 07/12/2010 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how after almost everybody is killed it says that Jesus personally kills the REMNANT. And the birds eat their bodies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432Another problem is people impose their interpretations on scripture instead of letting it speak for itself in context. The verse you are alluding to is more likely the remnant of those who have escaped the tribulation but are not born again believers in Christ. Just because the translators used the word "remnant" doesn't imply the remnant of the tribe of Judah. If you are going to interpret the scripture that way, at least have the courtesy of saying, in my opinion, IMO and then provide some grammatical justification for your opinion so others like myself who are judgmental are not tempted to stumble and immediately call you an idiot. You can call people all the names that you want if that makes you happy. Some people get joy out of that. So, if that is what toots your whistle, swear and curse away. Only God holds you accountable. The Bible makes it clear that Jesus kills the REMNANT. It does not say a portion of a remnant. It does not say ten percent of those people left alive on the earth. 1st Place in Novel Sales for 6 yrs! [link to www.mobipocket.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1033741 United States 07/12/2010 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that these texts are circulated to the masses, is more proof that it is lies and really benefits the corrupt elite Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750445uhh .. not quite. first - the texts arent really "circulated" to anyone. they're PURCHASED & GIVEN by believers who want to see it in others hands. second - every attempt humanly possible has been made to eradicate the Bible. third - if God wants His Word to "remain" .. its gonna remain. and there isnt *ANYTHING* *ANYONE* can do to stop it. they are circulated....the believers could not give em out if it werent for the powers that control the printing presses and book publishing companies.. your religions and religious texts exist, because the powers in charge want them to exist , because it benefits those powers in charge the MOST . after 2000 years of lies ,and having evil in charge, I would think the cult members would finally see thru the scam. but intelligence doesnt seem to be a strongpoint of many of the cult members. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1033741 United States 07/12/2010 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that these texts are circulated to the masses, is more proof that it is lies and really benefits the corrupt elite Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1033741uhh .. not quite. first - the texts arent really "circulated" to anyone. they're PURCHASED & GIVEN by believers who want to see it in others hands. second - every attempt humanly possible has been made to eradicate the Bible. third - if God wants His Word to "remain" .. its gonna remain. and there isnt *ANYTHING* *ANYONE* can do to stop it. they are circulated....the believers could not give em out if it werent for the powers that control the printing presses and book publishing companies.. your religions and religious texts exist, because the powers in charge want them to exist , because it benefits those powers in charge the MOST . after 2000 years of lies ,and having evil in charge, I would think the cult members would finally see thru the scam. but intelligence doesnt seem to be a strongpoint of many of the cult members. but at least the " culties" always have their blind faith to get them thru :} |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1033741 United States 07/12/2010 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most culties have read it, so that isnt the problem . The problems arise when it is taken as verbatim and 100% truths and then the culties use certain passages to mean the things that best suits their agendas and religious brainwashing. Then, when it is allowed to infiltrate politics, you have a whole new can of worms , which usually ends in disaster and suffering of others. |
JoeNeubarth (OP) User ID: 752389 United States 07/12/2010 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know a lot of nobodys. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 970343The vast majority of humankind are nobody's 1st Place in Novel Sales for 6 yrs! [link to www.mobipocket.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 07/12/2010 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how after almost everybody is killed it says that Jesus personally kills the REMNANT. And the birds eat their bodies. Quoting: JoeNeubarthAnother problem is people impose their interpretations on scripture instead of letting it speak for itself in context. The verse you are alluding to is more likely the remnant of those who have escaped the tribulation but are not born again believers in Christ. Just because the translators used the word "remnant" doesn't imply the remnant of the tribe of Judah. If you are going to interpret the scripture that way, at least have the courtesy of saying, in my opinion, IMO and then provide some grammatical justification for your opinion so others like myself who are judgmental are not tempted to stumble and immediately call you an idiot. You can call people all the names that you want if that makes you happy. Some people get joy out of that. So, if that is what toots your whistle, swear and curse away. Only God holds you accountable. The Bible makes it clear that Jesus kills the REMNANT. It does not say a portion of a remnant. It does not say ten percent of those people left alive on the earth. First of all the verse immediately before the verse in question identifies who Christ is warring with: Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. In the Greek text, the word you claim is remnant is in fact loipoi with a definite article. Loipoi is the plural form of the noun loipos which means remaining, remainder or "the rest". Contextually it means the remaining humans on earth who are not in Christ but survived the preceding cataclysms. The term "Remnant" in the Old Testament refers to those of the original tribes that God chose to remain faithful to him. You are mixing terms. |
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Harry Nipple User ID: 1033060 Canada 07/12/2010 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and this is a problem? if more people read this book, they would instantly become self-aware, and no longer have a need to dress up on Sunday to listen to some guy or lady go on and on about the book for a couple of hours, every sunday, and they would no longer be trapped by religion yes, it is a good thing not many people have read this book, cause them religious people need to be led and the leaders need a job.... guns do not kill, bullets can... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1033741 United States 07/12/2010 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first problem I have with the 'bible' (and I've read it several times) begins at the beginning. The very first verse is incorrectly translated from the original language. Having found that out, I no longer trust anything in that book. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021441but you must have blind faith, to recieve the blessings of da baby Jesus ! |
JoeNeubarth (OP) User ID: 752389 United States 07/12/2010 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I ...immediately call you an idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432You can call people all the names that you want if that makes you happy. Some people get joy out of that. So, if that is what toots your whistle, swear and curse away. Only God holds you accountable. The Bible makes it clear that Jesus kills the REMNANT. It does not say a portion of a remnant. It does not say ten percent of those people left alive on the earth. First of all the verse immediately before the verse in question identifies who Christ is warring with: Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. In the Greek text, the word you claim is remnant is in fact loipoi with a definite article. Loipoi is the plural form of the noun loipos which means remaining, remainder or "the rest". Contextually it means the remaining humans on earth who are not in Christ but survived the preceding cataclysms. The term "Remnant" in the Old Testament refers to those of the original tribes that God chose to remain faithful to him. You are mixing terms. THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS CALLED DOUBLESPEAK. loipoi means remainder ("the rest") It says the remainder. If it were to mean the remainder minus some others then it would not say the remainder. You are obviously intoxicated. Dude, Remainder means Remainder! It does not mean something else that you just made up about people disappearing. Just for your clarification and edification, if they are not there, then they are not the remainder. You can not be the remainder if you are not there. 1st Place in Novel Sales for 6 yrs! [link to www.mobipocket.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 305653 United States 07/12/2010 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first problem I have with the 'bible' (and I've read it several times) begins at the beginning. The very first verse is incorrectly translated from the original language. Having found that out, I no longer trust anything in that book. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1033741but you must have blind faith, to recieve the blessings of da baby Jesus ! oh, okay gotta be blind and ignorant to receive the blessings of da baybe jezuz check |
JoeNeubarth (OP) User ID: 752389 United States 07/12/2010 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, okay Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305653gotta be blind and ignorant to receive the blessings of da baybe jezuz check Dude, blessings? He is coming back to make certain everybody is dead. Like I say, nobody has read the Bible. The Bible clearly points out that ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF EARTH ARE GOING TO BE EXTERMINATED. 1st Place in Novel Sales for 6 yrs! [link to www.mobipocket.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 07/12/2010 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another problem is people impose their interpretations on scripture instead of letting it speak for itself in context. The verse you are alluding to is more likely the remnant of those who have escaped the tribulation but are not born again believers in Christ. Just because the translators used the word "remnant" doesn't imply the remnant of the tribe of Judah. If you are going to interpret the scripture that way, at least have the courtesy of saying, in my opinion, IMO and then provide some grammatical justification for your opinion so others like myself who are judgmental are not tempted to stumble and immediately call you an idiot. Quoting: JoeNeubarthYou can call people all the names that you want if that makes you happy. Some people get joy out of that. So, if that is what toots your whistle, swear and curse away. Only God holds you accountable. The Bible makes it clear that Jesus kills the REMNANT. It does not say a portion of a remnant. It does not say ten percent of those people left alive on the earth. First of all the verse immediately before the verse in question identifies who Christ is warring with: Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. In the Greek text, the word you claim is remnant is in fact loipoi with a definite article. Loipoi is the plural form of the noun loipos which means remaining, remainder or "the rest". Contextually it means the remaining humans on earth who are not in Christ but survived the preceding cataclysms. The term "Remnant" in the Old Testament refers to those of the original tribes that God chose to remain faithful to him. You are mixing terms. THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS CALLED DOUBLESPEAK. loipoi means remainder ("the rest") It says the remainder. If it were to mean the remainder minus some others then it would not say the remainder. You are obviously intoxicated. Dude, Remainder means Remainder! It does not mean something else that you just made up about people disappearing. Just for your clarification and edification, if they are not there, then they are not the remainder. You can not be the remainder if you are not there. First of all I corrected your revisionist strategies to make me look like an evil troll. Second of all, I really think you need to learn basic sentence diagramming, did you learn that in grammar school? As I said, the preceding verse describes who Christ is warring with, He and His army are opposed to them: "Him that sat on the horse, and against His army". The loipoi are the remaining number of people who survived the wrath of God poured out and are gathered together with the Beast to war against the Lamb. Why don't you provide some kind of grammatical evidence that supports your claim, expand your mind exercise your brain and you might sound more educated and give a little credence to your interpretation. As it is you are again arguing semantics, and poorly at that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 305653 United States 07/12/2010 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, okay Quoting: JoeNeubarthgotta be blind and ignorant to receive the blessings of da baybe jezuz check Dude, blessings? He is coming back to make certain everybody is dead. Like I say, nobody has read the Bible. The Bible clearly points out that ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF EARTH ARE GOING TO BE EXTERMINATED. Oh well. Ya can't really say that we don't have it coming. |
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Billy Bob Joe Briggs User ID: 516842 United States 07/12/2010 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no the problem with the bible is it is much pretty much unreadable Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1033080Amen to that brother, if I want to read indecipherable gibberish I can pick up an essay written by most high school students and satisfy that craving. No need to read a book that has been modified, codified, adulterated and used as a control mechanism. Thanks but no thanks |
JoeNeubarth (OP) User ID: 752389 United States 07/12/2010 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are obviously intoxicated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432Dude, Remainder means Remainder! First of all I corrected your revisionist strategies to make me look like an evil troll. Second of all, I really think you need to learn basic sentence diagramming, did you learn that in grammar school? As I said, the preceding verse describes who Christ is warring with, He and His army are opposed to them: "Him that sat on the horse, and against His army". The loipoi are the remaining number of people who survived the wrath of God poured out and are gathered together with the Beast to war against the Lamb. Why don't you provide some kind of grammatical evidence that supports your claim, expand your mind exercise your brain and you might sound more educated and give a little credence to your interpretation. As it is you are again arguing semantics, and poorly at that. Present grammatical evidence? You intoxicated fool! I am the one presenting the Word for what it says. When it says that Jesus kills the remnant, THAT is what it says. He is coming back to make certain that everybody is dead. You are the flaming lunatic (alias evil troll) who says that the word is remnant in ancient Greek. I agree with that portion of your post. You then say that even though it says Remnant I have to understand that it does not mean remnant. YOU then use DOUBLESPEAK and say something about the Old Testament. You realize of course to everybody who reads your posts that you come across as a raving flaming lunatic. I do not have to do anything to make you look like a total fool. You are doing a fantastic job all by yourself. 1st Place in Novel Sales for 6 yrs! [link to www.mobipocket.com] |
JoeNeubarth (OP) User ID: 752389 United States 07/12/2010 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Americans and their bible, what about waking up to reality? no god will fix the problems we created. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1010298God is going to fix the problems that we created. He is going to kill everybody. Read about it in the Bible. 1st Place in Novel Sales for 6 yrs! [link to www.mobipocket.com] |