The ideals being passed seem to totally overlook the lack of manly knowledge being passes on generation to generation aswell. The statement kinda sound like oh ya dudes will be alright we can hunt and kill for meat and beat ppl up for other stuff GGGGGRrrr. For real man not only would most ppl sit around clueless with a thumb lodged in there ass in the event of a true breakdown.. but remember no macys right? that means no ammo. add up all the stapping young fellas you know and see how many of them can truely survive in a total absense of infrastructure. Make a shelter that can be warmed using only localized unmanufactured material that can stand the weather for more than the week long vacation. Know what veggitation indiginous to your area can be consumed... and know how to prepare it. hunt with out any tech manufactured weapons and dont hunt out your territory. the list goes on and on. I dont mean to sound abrassive but the thread just screams of low self esteem totally denied.