Planet X Proof During Eclipse! Zetas RIGHT Again!

I'm sorry to hear that.



Yep, that's bunker logic if I ever heard it. No proof or evidence to the contrary will make you change your mind, because you want and need it to exist. On the other hand, I would be more than happy to change my mind if someone, someday presented proof that it exists. I have been asking for some since 2006, and so far the only thing I get is twisted evidence like the image Nancy posted here, bunker spin and testimony based on belief. So far nothing I can sink my teeth into and modify my opinion over.

That, in no way, equates to: "...know everything that is going on out in space."

Zeus is the typical bunker who has been taken in by a cult. He has drank the koolaid and even admits that nothing can cause him to change his mind. This is the antithesis of logical thought. He can't produce ANY evidence and yet says that nothing will cause him to change his mind. Can it be any clearer that this is a cult?

Apologizing is the ethical way to do that... NOT altering the past as if it didn't happen in the first place.

I'm not the one that should apologize.

Btw- What's it to you Menow?

~Zeus

Last Edited by ~Brent~ on 07/15/2010 10:36 AM

Double.

Last Edited by ~Brent~ on 07/15/2010 10:35 AM

Can you please point out anywhere that Hap was "disrespectful" to you?

Give it a rest.

What makes the difference?

~Zeus

YOU made the claim! Now you can't even defend it?

Typical cultie...NO evidence, NO proof, nothing can change your mind, and now insulting the messenger that tells you that you have no evidence.

Hap simply asked you if you wanted to debate your claims with someone who really knows astronomy. You apparently can't handle that sort of challenge to your beliefs.

You used the common dodge of pretending he had said things he never actually said, to distract and cover your ass while you run and hide from any discussion of the facts.

Heh.

How many times have we seen THIS before?

Run, bunkers! Run away!

Yes, and I said no.

It's not up for debate Menow. I believe I said that once already.

The bold portion of your above post is total bullshit.

~Zeus

Please.

Don't be ridiculous.

~Zeus

Yes, you did say that. However, what you mean is that YOU are not 'up up for debate'. The subject of PX most certainly is ripe for debate. It's just that YOU can't provide any credible evidence that such a body exists, so you refuse to expose the utter foolishness of your beliefs by attempting to explain the basis behind them.

You keep bringing up facts Menow.

Show me your so called factual evidence that proves Nibiru does not exist. I'm not talking about the typical word acrobatics either................facts.

Can you?

Can anyone?

I'll be waiting.........................

~Zeus

Last Edited by ~Brent~ on 07/15/2010 11:30 AM

In 1983 NASA should have kept their lips sealed. So then they had to back track and lie to hide it...

Define Nibiru. No one can ever prove that a non-defined object does not exist. Your demand is like me saying: "Prove balflihag does not exist". YOU have to assert that it has defined properties in the observable universe. Otherwise, this is only YOU engaging in 'word acrobatics'.

Yes indeed.

Wise man once said: "It's not the conspiracy that will get you...........it's the cover up."

~Zeus

Last Edited by ~Brent~ on 07/15/2010 11:35 AM

If Nibiru existed we would be at the point in the above video where Saturn, the yellow line, is starting to stray away from its normal orbit. The above video shows what Nibiru would do to the solar system as it approached and passed through. The green line at the bottom is Uranus and you can see it "retracing" its orbit early on as it has been altered by Nibiru long before it arrived at perihelion. Due to the way orbital mechanics works, Nibiru would have to be about 10 AUs from the sun right now for a perihelion in december 2012, which as I said is the point at which Saturn starts to be badly thrown out of place. Years pass very rapidly here; saturn's orbit lasts about 30 years and you can see how quickly it moves. Bear in mind, this is if Nibiru is inclined to the ecliptic a full 90 degrees and isn't even the brown dwarf (or accompanied by one) most claim it to be; a brown dwarf would have even more mass and cause even greater disruptions, I low balled it as 20% less massive than a brown dwarf. Even an object 80% less massive than a brown dwarf showed huge effects on the position of Pluto at the distance from perihelion it would be at in its orbit right now.

Last Edited by Astromut on 07/15/2010 11:42 AM

repeat after me...

I LOVE ZETAS.

I LOVE ZETAS!!!!

So which one of the 9 mystery objects that have since been identified as galaxies and interstellar dust knots was actually Nibiru? Hmm?
[link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu]

Last Edited by Astromut on 07/15/2010 11:46 AM

Well they don't fit the four times larger than earth description. Dust and galaxies don't travel around a binary star comets maybe. And don't fit the profile in folklore..

Can you find anything of the 9 in particular that may fit a dwarf red star call Nibiru?

Lets just say NASA found it and won't tell us. Like everything else that the scientific method can not prove

come on man..have a little class bro.. no need to imply that towards Nancy. Her beliefs in PlanetX are no different then any other belief that someone has in something. Then after you implying it.. you go hide in your hole like a mouse (the smilie you used lol) ...lame bro, real lame.

But seriously .. calling someone mentally ill over something you dont believe in that the person believes in is really wrong but hey..what goes around comes around.

Last Edited by SlapNuts on 07/15/2010 12:11 PM

Nancy's dog is pretty sure she might have mental issues...

They don't fit that description because you're wrong about what they found.

No, and since when did Nibiru transform from a brown dwarf to a red one? Do you have any clue how painfully obvious a red dwarf would be if it were anywhere in our solar system, even in the oort cloud?

So you admit your belief in Nibiru AND that NASA found it AND that they lied about it is a gigantic a priori assumption?

You have been told time and again that if anything like that existed, it would be disrupting the orbits of the other planets. That simply hasn't happened as evidenced by the FACT that GOTO telescopes still point unerringly to any object commended using old databases, that eclipses and occultations occur exactly where they should and exactly on time as calculated decades (and sometimes centuries) ago, etc, etc, etc.

So, are you claiming that your imaginary "nibiru" doesn't affect any other planet except earth?

Why don't you just say ANYTHING, since you don't seem to need evidence to form your beliefs?

And, for the 100th time, you don't prove that things DON'T exist...you prove that they DO. And so far, there is NO evidence, not a shred, that your imaginary "nibiru" does.

Ok well i just did a quick invesitgating on Nancy.. read some old newsgroup posts and the forums she runs,etc .. i must say she seems rather rude towards some innocent people that dont happen to believe in what she believes in..wow

And some of the things she believe's in are totally hard to believe. Im a pretty level headed guy...while im open minded ..some of these things are just too far out for me to ingest.

Last Edited by SlapNuts on 07/15/2010 12:33 PM

I have asked many people why this expression means what everyone takes it to mean. No one has ever explained it. How about you?