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Who or what is lucifer? (Light Bearer/bringer)

 
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I've heard so many stories throughout my life regarding this 'lucifer'. Some say he is good some say he is evil. Some say he was satan before he feel. Some say he never fell, some say he fell because he wouldn't give up his chair to God, whom was tired. Some say he was herme's bestfriend, who would exchange philosophy with him often. Others say he is the bringer of knowledge and wisdom, and innocence. Other say he is the problem, as lucifuge flees from him. Others say he is a brother to Paymon/Paimon, who is in charge of protecting 2 kings. Others believe he was the original human being, who's home/world got blown up. Others believe he was a philosopher, eons ago, who in an world free of harm and danger and doubt, thought another way of living up (nonconforming to his), and imagined a life different from his, innocently (since it was all his imagination) he got caught up in his own whirlwind. Some say the whirlwind was started up by Satan (According to jesus Satan is nothing without lucifer) to fulfill his master plan, some think it was started by his Father, to show him a lesson. Others say he was Jesus, other say he was a babylonian king. Throughout all this confusion, who is lucifer. There are so many stories regarding this being, share some of your stories and opinion...
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its all stories, but which one makes the most sense?

it makes sense to me he represents knowledge sacrificing love, thats the essence

but: the bringer of innocence? I never heard that one
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53:0.1 Lucifer was a brilliant primary Lanonandek Son of Nebadon. He had experienced service in many systems, had been a high counselor of his group, and was distinguished for wisdom, sagacity, and efficiency. Lucifer was number 37 of his order, and when commissioned by the Melchizedeks, he was designated as one of the one hundred most able and brilliant personalities in more than seven hundred thousand of his kind. From such a magnificent beginning, through evil and error, he embraced sin and now is numbered as one of three System Sovereigns in Nebadon who have succumbed to the urge of self and surrendered to the sophistry of spurious personal liberty—rejection of universe allegiance and disregard of fraternal obligations, blindness to cosmic relationships.
 Quoting: PAPER 53: THE LUCIFER REBELLION



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not the bringer of innocence. Some masons give lucifer the attribute of innocence. Since he being a being of light, is free of sin, and is thus innocent
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it makes no sense though. The melchizadeks....the history of lucifer is much older than king melchizadek.
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the coolest motherfucker ever, thats who.

Just follow the light.
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from the URBAN DICTIONARY:

"God's favorite son. Lucifer is heaven's pansy whining rich boy. He had it all, all the powers of the universe, loved above all angels and all God asked was that he serve by assisting mankind. Poor whiny Lucifer got all pissy and demanded that mankind worship him. God said, nobody worships anybody but Me! Lucifer then walked away from heaven like a cry-baby and into Hell. Mankind was created and he then decided to screw with them. He has spent eons attempting to piss off God by messing with the minds of men and women. All this time however, God still loves him the most. Even above humans, and his other son, Jesus. God allows Lucifer to pretty much do whatever the Hell he wants, and has never asked anything of him since. Meanwhile he subjects mankind to unending tortures and horrors, and without mercy. He even subjected his human son, Jesus to abominable tortures. Lucifer is also known as the biggest pussy-weakling in the universe because he has never known suffering(other than his own self-pity). Some humans identify with this pussy's whining, and choose to worship him, others have picked Jesus, the other son. Others are pissed altogether, and cannot believe that God would even allow such a basard to be let loose to do the kind of damage he has done. Lucifer has never known starvation, physical pain, loss of love, age or failure. Human beings, although superior to Lucifer, are still left to live in a hell worse than Lucifer's Hell, and God sill refuses to even speak to mankind. Lucifer and God both are indeed the biggest bastards in the universe, but Lucifer is the biggest because of his spoiled rich-kid status. Human beings commit one or two crimes and get sent to Hell forever, and Lucifer, who is given power to be loosed on earth can come and go as he pleases, and is ultimately untouchable by God and his angels. (You'd think God would have just killed the fucker, made him NOT exist or something...)Human beings to this day generally like Jesus better because he's gone through the same shit they have on earth, but ultimately, humans have come to realize God is a dead-beat Dad. "Lucy" while having the power and ability to heal people would rather resort to childish tricks and evil like the little worthless fuck that he is, and therefore is the enemy of mankind.
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the word innocence is difficult itself. I suppose it is about the innocence of animals which do not know good or evil.

Of course Lucifer has been attributed with goodness and being free of sin, but he has never been attributed with love in the sense of compassion, as far as I know
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before you try to personify or objectify something, know that everything is an ARCHETYPE (or symbol) before it becomes something real.

Lucifer is primarily a cosmic archetype. "Cosmic" because it is a fundamental archetype to the nature of reality. Thus you have to understand the symbolic / archetypal meaning of the word 'lucifer'.
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It's an anthropomorphic concept used to demonize something you don't like.
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A fictional character.

So... whatever you want him to be.

To me? He was the first to say that god is NOT perfect, and that something is rotten in heaven.

Apparently a third of the angels agreed.
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there is a very old and extensive school of mystery, in the study of lucifer. Some say he is venus, other say he is the calf. I believe lucifer was enki, who begat the solar calf (marduk). Thats why venus follows the sun in our sky. The sun=solar calf=marduk ; venus=shepherd=lucifer. father=shepherd son=herd/calf
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it makes no sense though. The melchizadeks....the history of lucifer is much older than king melchizadek.
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The lack os sense is your misunderstanding of time/space sequence. A Melchizedek came down and because likened to men, but he was still a Melchizedek a group of higher spiritualzed beings.

Lucifer, is also a being, but of a different type, one that can fail themselves and others. Lucifer was in place over several worlds, Satan was in place over a couple under Lucifer and "the devil" was the planetary prince that was thrown out upon the advent of christ.

As I've said. You can know all the Universal History if you're only willing to listen to the spirit of truth within yourself rather then look for something to misunderstand. The choice is yours.
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He's actually a pretty cool guy. He just gets a bad rap for doing his job.
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Back in the day they called it lucifer or satan, in current times its called ego. Compare how the ego behaves with how they describe lucifer/satan behaving, the similarities are beyond coincidence.
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it makes no sense though. The melchizadeks....the history of lucifer is much older than king melchizadek.


The lack os sense is your misunderstanding of time/space sequence. A Melchizedek came down and because likened to men, but he was still a Melchizedek a group of higher spiritualzed beings.

Lucifer, is also a being, but of a different type, one that can fail themselves and others. Lucifer was in place over several worlds, Satan was in place over a couple under Lucifer and "the devil" was the planetary prince that was thrown out upon the advent of christ.

As I've said. You can know all the Universal History if you're only willing to listen to the spirit of truth within yourself rather then look for something to misunderstand. The choice is yours.
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Nice that you mention. Your theory is that Satan, lucifer. and the Devil are 3 distinct beings. Satan supposedly was a chief judge, who ancient jews were very scared to get judged by. by the way love is also an attribute of lucifer, since he maximized us in his heart.
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But here is a history of the devil:


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Back in the day they called it lucifer or satan, in current times its called ego. Compare how the ego behaves with how they describe lucifer/satan behaving, the similarities are beyond coincidence.
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or maybe it's all in allegory depicting men in their prime..
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Either way, God of bible is much worse with his all blood sacrifices, genocide....etc...Lord is man of war...
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Either way, God of bible is much worse with his all blood sacrifices, genocide....etc...Lord is man of war...
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If you compare Satan in the bible to God. You can actually notice God is much worse lol....
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He is the one who deceived you into the clueless state that you now exist in.
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Lucifer/Satan/Lightbringer,all the same being.He is Hatered,and a Murderer,and a great liar.He Hates all humanity with no exceptions.But he has is followers who are twisted sick minded people who think they can share in his empire of death and destruction of humanity.He is the force behind all wars,he laughs at us because we are so stupid that we do his work for him by killing each other. He is not Jesus or Christ.He is a supernatural entity of hate nothing good comes from him or his supporters or followers,have none of him or those who support him,do not be deceived for he is the king of lies. Love Selly
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He is the one who deceived you into the clueless state that you now exist in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1033497

Here Christard, open your bible and learn something about your Lovely God.

The Bible reveals an important, yet often overlooked trait of God's nature and that is his thirst for blood. From the beginning of his dealings with man he has shown his preference for spilled blood; he accepted Able's offering of sheep's blood and rejected Cain's offering of grains and plants (Genesis 4:3-5). God has told man that the shedding of blood is required to be forgiven of sins (Leviticus 17:11, Hebrews 9:22). In the Old Testament, millions of animals were slaughtered and their blood poured onto altars and burned in a futile attempt to please God. The smoke from the burning flesh and blood was such a sweet scent to God (Exodus 29:18, Leviticus 1:9), that his anger was appeased when he smelled the sweet, burning blood (Genesis 8:21) Even the human/god sacrifice of Jesus is compared to the sweet smelling barbecue of an animal (Epehsians 5:2). Why is blood so sweet to this vampiric God? Why is blood required to be spilled in order to receive forgiveness from this "merciful" God? Don't ask these questions, "just believe," you will be told. Besides why risk ending up in an eternal barbecue just because things smell a little
strange to you?


God sends fire and brimstone down onto the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, then kills Lot's wife when she looks back at the city by turning her into a pillar of salt. - Genesis 19:24-26
When a man is forced to have intercourse with his dead brother's wife (who God had recently killed), God's stark fist drops down and kills him also. (See Dirty, Disgusting Discharges) - Genesis 38:1-10
God kills uncounted humans and animals in Egypt, just so he can show off his great powers. (See Moses and Pharoh) - Exodus 12:29, 14:27

For more...if this doesnt make you think twice what type of being you are worshipping actually...
[link to luciferianliberationfront.org]
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Either way, God of bible is much worse with his all blood sacrifices, genocide....etc...Lord is man of war...


If you compare Satan in the bible to God. You can actually notice God is much worse lol....
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Another clueless Scandinavian ignoramus. What a surprise.
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Lucifer/Satan/Lightbringer,all the same being.He is Hatered,and a Murderer,and a great liar.He Hates all humanity with no exceptions.But he has is followers who are twisted sick minded people who think they can share in his empire of death and destruction of humanity.He is the force behind all wars,he laughs at us because we are so stupid that we do his work for him by killing each other. He is not Jesus or Christ.He is a supernatural entity of hate nothing good comes from him or his supporters or followers,have none of him or those who support him,do not be deceived for he is the king of lies. Love Selly
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Your jahve/baal infact kills more people in bible than satan.

Once more the people grow weary of starving and thirsting (who wouldn't?) and they dare to complain. God sends poisonous snakes to kill many of the people. - Numbers 21:6
When the enemy Philistines capture the Ark of the Covenant (a magical box that the Israelites think God lived in), God sends a plague of hemorrhoids and mice to the Philistines (See Jehovah's Potty) who then give the Ark back to the Israelites. Silly Israelites, just can't resist the urge to look inside the box and God killed the entire city (50,070 men!) in response to their curiosity. - 1 Samuel 6:19
While transporting the Ark on a cart, the oxen pulling the cart shook the Ark and the cartdriver feared that the Ark may fall or be damaged so he reached out to steady it. God had warned that no one was to touch the Ark except for his specially privileged priests. It didn't matter that the cartdriver was only trying to protect the Ark, God got angry and killed the driver there on the spot. - 2 Samuel 6:7
King David was commanded by God not to conduct a census or count the number of Israelites (the reason God gave this command was that he had told Abraham that he would have so many children that they couldn't be counted and if David counted them, that would make God a liar.). The Bible tells us in one place that God got angry with Israel and made David count them (2 Samuel 24:1). In another place it says that Satan made David number Israel (1 Chronicles 21:1). [Editor's note: We don't see the contradiction.] To make David pay for his "sin" of counting the people, God gives him a choice of 7 years of famine or being pursued by his enemies for 3 months or 3 days of pestilence. David leaves the choice up to God who chooses the pestilence and proceeds to kill 70,000 men. When God's angel of death reaches the capital city of Jerusalem, God "repented him of the evil" and made the angel stop killing. At least the Bible admits that the murders were "evil." - 2 Samuel 24:15-16
A man was warned by God not to eat or drink at a certain place, then a prophet lies to him and tells him that an angel said he could eat and drink at that place. The man trusts the prophet and God sends a lion to eat the man because he ate and drank there. Nothing happens to the prophet who lied. - 1 Kings 13:18
Jeroboam becomes the king of God's chosen people and allows the worship of idols. God vows that every member of his family will be slaughtered and left to be eaten by dogs and birds. God decides that the king's son (who is sick at the time) is the only one who is good enough to avoid the upcoming punishment so God rewards him by killing him right away instead of having him suffer along with the rest of the king's family. - 1 Kings 14:1-13
When a captain and his 50 men came to find the prophet Elijah, they asked for the man of God to come down. Elijah responded by saying "If I'm a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven and consume you." God gave Elijah the sign that he asked for and burned up the captain and his 50 men. Another captain was sent with 50 men and God repeats his fiery performance, burning them all to a crisp. - 2 Kings 1:10-11
When the Assyrians camped outside of the city of Jerusalem, God sent his angel to do his dirty work once more and 185,000 Assyrians were slaughtered in one night. Now that's an efficient angel. - 2 Kings 19:35
God threatens to destroy his wayward people because he is "weary of repenting." He tells them that if they take wives and have sons and daughters where they are living, "they shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth." - Jeremiah 15:6-7, 16:3-4
Not satisfied with this threat, God goes on to say that he will bring a sword among them to kill them and that he will destroy their cities. He then says that he will allow some of them to escape just so they will remember how terrible the Lord was. Those who are near will be killed with the sword and will starve in famine and God will kill those who are far away with disease, "And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that would do this evil unto them." Once more God admits that what he does is evil. God is finally telling the truth! - Ezekiel 6:3-13
Don't be mistaken about the evil of God's intentions, for he admits that his sword will go out against all flesh, both the righteous, right along with the wicked. - Ezekiel 21:3-5
God threatens to send armies after his chosen people in order to stone them and slay them with swords and kill their sons and daughters. - Ezekiel 23:46-47
In his excitement, God says that he will make a great bonfire out of the city of Jerusalem. Commanding, "Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned." Once more, God reveals his bloody craving for human barbecue. - Ezekiel 24:9-10
True to his word, God kills his own people. One of the prophets cries out to God, "The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou has slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed and not pitied." We couldn't have said it better ourselves. - Lamentations 2:21


Care to read your fucking bible for once and while? lol...
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He is the one who deceived you into the clueless state that you now exist in.

Here Christard, open your bible and learn something about your Lovely God.

The Bible reveals an important, yet often overlooked trait of God's nature and that is his thirst for blood. From the beginning of his dealings with man he has shown his preference for spilled blood; he accepted Able's offering of sheep's blood and rejected Cain's offering of grains and plants (Genesis 4:3-5). God has told man that the shedding of blood is required to be forgiven of sins (Leviticus 17:11, Hebrews 9:22). In the Old Testament, millions of animals were slaughtered and their blood poured onto altars and burned in a futile attempt to please God. The smoke from the burning flesh and blood was such a sweet scent to God (Exodus 29:18, Leviticus 1:9), that his anger was appeased when he smelled the sweet, burning blood (Genesis 8:21) Even the human/god sacrifice of Jesus is compared to the sweet smelling barbecue of an animal (Epehsians 5:2). Why is blood so sweet to this vampiric God? Why is blood required to be spilled in order to receive forgiveness from this "merciful" God? Don't ask these questions, "just believe," you will be told. Besides why risk ending up in an eternal barbecue just because things smell a little
strange to you?


God sends fire and brimstone down onto the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, then kills Lot's wife when she looks back at the city by turning her into a pillar of salt. - Genesis 19:24-26
When a man is forced to have intercourse with his dead brother's wife (who God had recently killed), God's stark fist drops down and kills him also. (See Dirty, Disgusting Discharges) - Genesis 38:1-10
God kills uncounted humans and animals in Egypt, just so he can show off his great powers. (See Moses and Pharoh) - Exodus 12:29, 14:27

For more...if this doesnt make you think twice what type of being you are worshipping actually...
[link to luciferianliberationfront.org]
 Quoting: Mustis






I absolutely LOVE how you conveniently leave all of the CONTEXT out of your accusations, and completely leave out the fact that those people who were killed, had completely VIOLATED a direct command of God.
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Either way, God of bible is much worse with his all blood sacrifices, genocide....etc...Lord is man of war...


If you compare Satan in the bible to God. You can actually notice God is much worse lol....




Another clueless Scandinavian ignoramus. What a surprise.
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Oh it must be because of where they live right? Right?


rolleyes
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Lucifer/Satan/Lightbringer,all the same being.He is Hatered,and a Murderer,and a great liar.He Hates all humanity with no exceptions.But he has is followers who are twisted sick minded people who think they can share in his empire of death and destruction of humanity.He is the force behind all wars,he laughs at us because we are so stupid that we do his work for him by killing each other. He is not Jesus or Christ.He is a supernatural entity of hate nothing good comes from him or his supporters or followers,have none of him or those who support him,do not be deceived for he is the king of lies. Love Selly


Your jahve/baal infact kills more people in bible than satan.

Once more the people grow weary of starving and thirsting (who wouldn't?) and they dare to complain. God sends poisonous snakes to kill many of the people. - Numbers 21:6
When the enemy Philistines capture the Ark of the Covenant (a magical box that the Israelites think God lived in), God sends a plague of hemorrhoids and mice to the Philistines (See Jehovah's Potty) who then give the Ark back to the Israelites. Silly Israelites, just can't resist the urge to look inside the box and God killed the entire city (50,070 men!) in response to their curiosity. - 1 Samuel 6:19
While transporting the Ark on a cart, the oxen pulling the cart shook the Ark and the cartdriver feared that the Ark may fall or be damaged so he reached out to steady it. God had warned that no one was to touch the Ark except for his specially privileged priests. It didn't matter that the cartdriver was only trying to protect the Ark, God got angry and killed the driver there on the spot. - 2 Samuel 6:7
King David was commanded by God not to conduct a census or count the number of Israelites (the reason God gave this command was that he had told Abraham that he would have so many children that they couldn't be counted and if David counted them, that would make God a liar.). The Bible tells us in one place that God got angry with Israel and made David count them (2 Samuel 24:1). In another place it says that Satan made David number Israel (1 Chronicles 21:1). [Editor's note: We don't see the contradiction.] To make David pay for his "sin" of counting the people, God gives him a choice of 7 years of famine or being pursued by his enemies for 3 months or 3 days of pestilence. David leaves the choice up to God who chooses the pestilence and proceeds to kill 70,000 men. When God's angel of death reaches the capital city of Jerusalem, God "repented him of the evil" and made the angel stop killing. At least the Bible admits that the murders were "evil." - 2 Samuel 24:15-16
A man was warned by God not to eat or drink at a certain place, then a prophet lies to him and tells him that an angel said he could eat and drink at that place. The man trusts the prophet and God sends a lion to eat the man because he ate and drank there. Nothing happens to the prophet who lied. - 1 Kings 13:18
Jeroboam becomes the king of God's chosen people and allows the worship of idols. God vows that every member of his family will be slaughtered and left to be eaten by dogs and birds. God decides that the king's son (who is sick at the time) is the only one who is good enough to avoid the upcoming punishment so God rewards him by killing him right away instead of having him suffer along with the rest of the king's family. - 1 Kings 14:1-13
When a captain and his 50 men came to find the prophet Elijah, they asked for the man of God to come down. Elijah responded by saying "If I'm a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven and consume you." God gave Elijah the sign that he asked for and burned up the captain and his 50 men. Another captain was sent with 50 men and God repeats his fiery performance, burning them all to a crisp. - 2 Kings 1:10-11
When the Assyrians camped outside of the city of Jerusalem, God sent his angel to do his dirty work once more and 185,000 Assyrians were slaughtered in one night. Now that's an efficient angel. - 2 Kings 19:35
God threatens to destroy his wayward people because he is "weary of repenting." He tells them that if they take wives and have sons and daughters where they are living, "they shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth." - Jeremiah 15:6-7, 16:3-4
Not satisfied with this threat, God goes on to say that he will bring a sword among them to kill them and that he will destroy their cities. He then says that he will allow some of them to escape just so they will remember how terrible the Lord was. Those who are near will be killed with the sword and will starve in famine and God will kill those who are far away with disease, "And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that would do this evil unto them." Once more God admits that what he does is evil. God is finally telling the truth! - Ezekiel 6:3-13
Don't be mistaken about the evil of God's intentions, for he admits that his sword will go out against all flesh, both the righteous, right along with the wicked. - Ezekiel 21:3-5
God threatens to send armies after his chosen people in order to stone them and slay them with swords and kill their sons and daughters. - Ezekiel 23:46-47
In his excitement, God says that he will make a great bonfire out of the city of Jerusalem. Commanding, "Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned." Once more, God reveals his bloody craving for human barbecue. - Ezekiel 24:9-10
True to his word, God kills his own people. One of the prophets cries out to God, "The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou has slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed and not pitied." We couldn't have said it better ourselves. - Lamentations 2:21


Care to read your fucking bible for once and while? lol...
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You are just another distorter of the truth. You are nothing but a disposable servant of Satan.

Enjoy the time you have left, doing the will of the father of lies. The accuser of the brethren.
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I am just another distorter of the truth. I am nothing but a disposable servant of Satan.

Enjoy the time I have left, doing the will of the father of lies. The accuser of the brethren.
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You is I and I is you. Be mindful of pointing fingers.
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I absolutely LOVE how you conveniently leave all of the CONTEXT out of your accusations, and completely leave out the fact that those people who were killed, had completely VIOLATED a direct command of God.
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Huh, so much about free will right? Sounds like tyrant to me and lucifer represents freedom then in that case...
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Either way, God of bible is much worse with his all blood sacrifices, genocide....etc...Lord is man of war...


If you compare Satan in the bible to God. You can actually notice God is much worse lol....




Another clueless Scandinavian ignoramus. What a surprise.

Oh it must be because of where they live right? Right?


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LOL!! Funny you should say that. Here is a short list of the worst of the worst, when it comes to sheer stupidity:


Netherlands (and all the Scandinavian countries)
Canaduh
Australia
UK



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