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Space is not a vacuum punctuated by isolated bodies on perpetually stable courses, as defined by the law of gravity. Since the beginning of the Space Age, it has gradually been discovered that space consists for 99.99% of plasma and is threaded with electric filaments and magnetic fields spanning over many orders of magnitude. This new paradigm is known as plasma cosmology and was pioneered by the Swedish scientist, Hannes Alfvén (1908-1995). Plasma is a partially ionised gas regarded as the 'fourth state of matter', that responds with great sensitivity to changes in its magnetic fields and becomes visible to the human eye when it is pervaded by a sufficiently strong electrical current.

The solid rock, the oceans and the lower regions of the earth's atmosphere belong to the minute segment of the cosmos that is not in the plasma state. Yet the earth itself is bathed in an electromagnetic environment. This consists of the magnetic shell that shields the planet from the enveloping solar wind and other external features impinging on it, such as Near-Earth Objects (NEOs) and, far less frequently, cometary intruders into the inner solar system. In addition, plasma penetrates and controls a range of terrestrial phenomena, such as the aurorae, lightning, fire, tornadoes and lava flows.

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The most challenging types of historical information concerning the cosmos are those that were traditionally invested with sentiments of sacrality, reverence, fear, or worship, the principal ingredients of religion. Traditions - especially myths, rituals and representations - that were 'holy', 'respected' and thought to be true typically concerned phenomena that are not or rarely seen today, such as the events of the 'creation' of the world, the manifestation of deities or encounters with the numinous. Generally, what is unknown and not understood tends to be feared, tabooed and explained with imagined notions, a process known as the deux ex machina, from which even modern scientists have not entirely freed themselves.

Transient natural events thus emerge as a very potent class of 'mythogenetic' experiences. As a guideline, whatever induced our distant ancestors to produce the central themes of myth appears to have been:


(1) external to the human mind in origin,
(2) cosmic, often celestial, in nature, and
(3) attractive in character, both because it was
(3a) rare or unusual in terms of frequency and
(3b) awe-inspiring and frightening in terms of appearance.


The following is a preliminary catalogue of extraordinary, impressive and often short-lived events observed by human beings that have left traces in the historical record:


GEOMYTHOLOGY:

geological:

tribo-electricity, pyro-electricity and piezo-electricity
tsunamis and other types of inundation
methane burps
earthquakes
volcanic eruptions (magma and lava flows)
tornadoes and hurricanes
cometary impacts
landslides
falls and finds of 'thunderstones' (meteorites, tektites, fulgurites, fossils and prehistoric implements)
instant fossilisation


orbital-dynamical:

shifting of the rotational pole and axis
toppling of the earth
changes in the earth's volume
changes in the earth's distance from the sun
changes in the speed of the earth's axial rotation



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COSMOMYTHOLOGY:

atmospheric
(tropospheric, stratospheric, mesospheric, ionospheric, exospheric):

St. Elmo's fire
ball lightning
volcanic lightning
earthquake lights
ordinary lightning
upper-atmospheric lightning (megalightning), including 'sprites' and 'elves'
bolides (fireballs), meteors and meteor showers
aurorae
ion plumes
rapid shifting of the magnetic poles
flux transfer events (FTEs)
many Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) or Unidentified Atmospheric Phenomena (UAPs)


atmospheric-optical
(involving diffraction, reflection and scattering of light):

zodiacal light and Gegenschein
crepuscular rays
parhelia and paraselenae
solar and lunar haloes
sun pillars
rainbows


celestial:

transient lunar events
impacts on the moon and on planets
planetary conjunctions and eclipses
cometary passages
coronal changes, sunspots, solar prominences and flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs)
novae and supernovae
fluctuations in the zodiacal light
visibility of planetary magnetospheres
shifts in colour and brightness of stars and planets
synchrotron light
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Thanks Broken...there is some very cool information in this small excerpt...
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Thanks Broken...there is some very cool information in this small excerpt...
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I wonder if gegenschein will b the sign that LaViolette's Prediction No. 10 is happenin

Thread: A strange coincidence....(26000 years) Super wave theory and all Dr LaViolette predictions that have been verified is this the warning we need !!


IMHO while small in package density is not a issue in the OP
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Thanks Broken...there is some very cool information in this small excerpt...
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I wonder if gegenschein will b the sign that LaViolette's Prediction No. 10 is happenin

Thread: A strange coincidence....(26000 years) Super wave theory and all Dr LaViolette predictions that have been verified is this the warning we need !!


IMHO while small in package density is not a issue in the OP
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I think LaViolette's track record will show highly accurate...with just a few minor adjustments...
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This stuff is incompatible with Einstein's theories and is therefore summarily dismissed.
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The problem stems from the fact that Newton, Brahe, Kepler, Galilei and Copernicus were all men steeped in religious dogma and at the same time mathematicians who believed in the perfect symmetry of numbers. They all believed in a perfect universe created by God and that maths could define this perfect world. In the case of Kepler he believed that his elipse had to be perfect elipses and Brahe's tables allowed him to realise his dream. Newton believed that all motion in the universe was created by God and that He came back occasionally to keep things in the universe in motion. In this way motion became a historical force that required no explanation. In the 18th century the rationalist Laplace merely replaced Newton's God with the swirling Accretion Disc with no explanation how this chimera actually gained its momentum. All motion in the universe ( at the macro and micro level) has been reduced to an Inherent Property which NO ONE questions especially if you want to get a degree in Physics.
The story goes like this. Robert Hooke, Christopher Wren and Edmund Halley who were all members of the Royal Society in London were discussing the work of Kepler and were wondering if the inverse square component encoded in Kepler's Law could be linked to Galilei's discovery that all thing fall also by the inverse square law. Hooke who believed they may be connected proposed they offer a financial reward for anyone who could link the two. Halley, who was a life long friend of Newton made him aware of the challenge when he visited Newton in Cambridge. Newton said he could link the two but took 10 years to release his now famous equation for G.

Newton assumed from Kepler's law that the Moon was falling towards the Earth but missing but in order to prove this mathematically he had to show what the Moon was doing before it fell. He assumed that it was travelling in a STRAIGHT LINE (the basis of his first and second laws).
As NOTHING in the three dimensional universe travels in a straight line his assumption was wrong. He also assumed that the Earth and the Moon were made of the same uniform particle which enabled him to calculate the orbit of the Moon. The only problem was that his calculations didn't work in the real world. The Moon had too much mass to be in the orbit in occupied. This led Newton to proposes that the back of the Moon was concave or that the craters on the moon were holes into giant caves (this is where the old tale of the Moon being made of Swiss Cheese came from). Newton pestered Halley for his whole life to get better observation of the Moon's orbit to bring it into line with his calculations, but he never could.
His perfect equation was wrong it didn't match reality and nor did his first and second law.
When it was subsequently used to predict the motion of the Earth and the other planets it was wildly out of sync. By this time Newton had spent 30 years as the head of the Royal Society after Hooke had died. He was also Master of the Mint one of the most powerful positions in England. He literally held the power of life and death in his hands. And as a consequence his detractors were effectively silenced. Newton was a nasty piece of work and his presence as the head of the Royal Society ensured his laws were accepted without question.
By the 18th century it was realised that none of the planet's orbits would conform to Newton's celestial mechanics which was becoming an embarrassment. So the Royal Society in a classic piece of sophistry decided to change the goal posts. If Newton's volume (now called mass) equation couldn't predict the orbit of planets then obviously there was something wrong with the planets. We know Newton is right so we'll use the orbit of planets to predict their mass.

They reversed Newton's equation to proved the unprovable.

That is how comets became ice and Saturn has a mass less then water. It is also the basic underlying flaw that required the invention of Dark Matter.
 Quoting: History



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lmao

I truly, truly laughed my ass off! Yes, theories...that is the crux of humankind's joke...
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The problem stems from the fact that Newton, Brahe, Kepler, Galilei and Copernicus were all men steeped in religious dogma and at the same time mathematicians who believed in the perfect symmetry of numbers. They all believed in a perfect universe created by God and that maths could define this perfect world. In the case of Kepler he believed that his elipse had to be perfect elipses and Brahe's tables allowed him to realise his dream. Newton believed that all motion in the universe was created by God and that He came back occasionally to keep things in the universe in motion. In this way motion became a historical force that required no explanation. In the 18th century the rationalist Laplace merely replaced Newton's God with the swirling Accretion Disc with no explanation how this chimera actually gained its momentum. All motion in the universe ( at the macro and micro level) has been reduced to an Inherent Property which NO ONE questions especially if you want to get a degree in Physics.
The story goes like this. Robert Hooke, Christopher Wren and Edmund Halley who were all members of the Royal Society in London were discussing the work of Kepler and were wondering if the inverse square component encoded in Kepler's Law could be linked to Galilei's discovery that all thing fall also by the inverse square law. Hooke who believed they may be connected proposed they offer a financial reward for anyone who could link the two. Halley, who was a life long friend of Newton made him aware of the challenge when he visited Newton in Cambridge. Newton said he could link the two but took 10 years to release his now famous equation for G.

Newton assumed from Kepler's law that the Moon was falling towards the Earth but missing but in order to prove this mathematically he had to show what the Moon was doing before it fell. He assumed that it was travelling in a STRAIGHT LINE (the basis of his first and second laws).
As NOTHING in the three dimensional universe travels in a straight line his assumption was wrong. He also assumed that the Earth and the Moon were made of the same uniform particle which enabled him to calculate the orbit of the Moon. The only problem was that his calculations didn't work in the real world. The Moon had too much mass to be in the orbit in occupied. This led Newton to proposes that the back of the Moon was concave or that the craters on the moon were holes into giant caves (this is where the old tale of the Moon being made of Swiss Cheese came from). Newton pestered Halley for his whole life to get better observation of the Moon's orbit to bring it into line with his calculations, but he never could.
His perfect equation was wrong it didn't match reality and nor did his first and second law.
When it was subsequently used to predict the motion of the Earth and the other planets it was wildly out of sync. By this time Newton had spent 30 years as the head of the Royal Society after Hooke had died. He was also Master of the Mint one of the most powerful positions in England. He literally held the power of life and death in his hands. And as a consequence his detractors were effectively silenced. Newton was a nasty piece of work and his presence as the head of the Royal Society ensured his laws were accepted without question.
By the 18th century it was realised that none of the planet's orbits would conform to Newton's celestial mechanics which was becoming an embarrassment. So the Royal Society in a classic piece of sophistry decided to change the goal posts. If Newton's volume (now called mass) equation couldn't predict the orbit of planets then obviously there was something wrong with the planets. We know Newton is right so we'll use the orbit of planets to predict their mass.

They reversed Newton's equation to proved the unprovable.

That is how comets became ice and Saturn has a mass less then water. It is also the basic underlying flaw that required the invention of Dark Matter.


rockon
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Aether, I thought you wold pop in with something to that effect!
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SS, you forgot swampgas!

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The problem stems from the fact that Newton, Brahe, Kepler, Galilei and Copernicus were all men steeped in religious dogma and at the same time mathematicians who believed in the perfect symmetry of numbers. They all believed in a perfect universe created by God and that maths could define this perfect world. In the case of Kepler he believed that his elipse had to be perfect elipses and Brahe's tables allowed him to realise his dream. Newton believed that all motion in the universe was created by God and that He came back occasionally to keep things in the universe in motion. In this way motion became a historical force that required no explanation. In the 18th century the rationalist Laplace merely replaced Newton's God with the swirling Accretion Disc with no explanation how this chimera actually gained its momentum. All motion in the universe ( at the macro and micro level) has been reduced to an Inherent Property which NO ONE questions especially if you want to get a degree in Physics.
The story goes like this. Robert Hooke, Christopher Wren and Edmund Halley who were all members of the Royal Society in London were discussing the work of Kepler and were wondering if the inverse square component encoded in Kepler's Law could be linked to Galilei's discovery that all thing fall also by the inverse square law. Hooke who believed they may be connected proposed they offer a financial reward for anyone who could link the two. Halley, who was a life long friend of Newton made him aware of the challenge when he visited Newton in Cambridge. Newton said he could link the two but took 10 years to release his now famous equation for G.

Newton assumed from Kepler's law that the Moon was falling towards the Earth but missing but in order to prove this mathematically he had to show what the Moon was doing before it fell. He assumed that it was travelling in a STRAIGHT LINE (the basis of his first and second laws).
As NOTHING in the three dimensional universe travels in a straight line his assumption was wrong. He also assumed that the Earth and the Moon were made of the same uniform particle which enabled him to calculate the orbit of the Moon. The only problem was that his calculations didn't work in the real world. The Moon had too much mass to be in the orbit in occupied. This led Newton to proposes that the back of the Moon was concave or that the craters on the moon were holes into giant caves (this is where the old tale of the Moon being made of Swiss Cheese came from). Newton pestered Halley for his whole life to get better observation of the Moon's orbit to bring it into line with his calculations, but he never could.
His perfect equation was wrong it didn't match reality and nor did his first and second law.
When it was subsequently used to predict the motion of the Earth and the other planets it was wildly out of sync. By this time Newton had spent 30 years as the head of the Royal Society after Hooke had died. He was also Master of the Mint one of the most powerful positions in England. He literally held the power of life and death in his hands. And as a consequence his detractors were effectively silenced. Newton was a nasty piece of work and his presence as the head of the Royal Society ensured his laws were accepted without question.
By the 18th century it was realised that none of the planet's orbits would conform to Newton's celestial mechanics which was becoming an embarrassment. So the Royal Society in a classic piece of sophistry decided to change the goal posts. If Newton's volume (now called mass) equation couldn't predict the orbit of planets then obviously there was something wrong with the planets. We know Newton is right so we'll use the orbit of planets to predict their mass.

They reversed Newton's equation to proved the unprovable.

That is how comets became ice and Saturn has a mass less then water. It is also the basic underlying flaw that required the invention of Dark Matter.
 Quoting: History


Concerning cosmological evolution, the Church has infallibly defined that the universe was specially created out of nothing
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SS, you forgot swampgas!

hf

By the way, please debunk the "Jupiter is Flat" thread...
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Jupiter is flat!? Who would have thought... chuckle
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I'm not very educated on this matter, so bear with me... If space is not empty, why is there no sound in space? Plasma is made up out of molecules right? So shouldn't soundwaves be able to travel in space?
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This stuff is incompatible with Einstein's theories and is therefore summarily dismissed.
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Einstein was a bogus Zionistic-Jew pseudo-scientist!

Tesla was da man!
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I'm not very educated on this matter, so bear with me... If space is not empty, why is there no sound in space? Plasma is made up out of molecules right? So shouldn't soundwaves be able to travel in space?
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Much distance between molecules in space, so, no sound waves.

Still a plasma, though.
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Sounds in Space: Silencing Misconceptions

Sound can travel through space, because space is not the total vacuum it's often made out to be. Atoms of gas give the universe a ubiquitous atmosphere of sorts, albeit a very thin one.

Sound, unlike light, travels by compressing a medium. On Earth, the atmosphere works well as a sound-carrying medium, as does water. The planet itself is very adept at transmitting an earthquake's seismic waves, a form of sound.

Space, though not as efficient, can also serve as a medium.

If a brave and clever astronaut could safely remove her helmet and shout into the cosmos, her voice would carry.

"We wouldn't be able to hear the sound because our ears aren't sensitive enough," explains Lynn Carter, a graduate student in astronomy at Cornell University. Not enough atoms -- if any -- would strike our eardrums. "Maybe if we had an amazingly large and sensitive microphone we could detect these sounds, but to our human ear it would be silent."

[link to www.space.com]
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I'm not very educated on this matter, so bear with me... If space is not empty, why is there no sound in space? Plasma is made up out of molecules right? So shouldn't soundwaves be able to travel in space?


Much distance between molecules in space, so, no sound waves.

Still a plasma, though.
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Ahh k, thanks.

Sounds in Space: Silencing Misconceptions

Sound can travel through space, because space is not the total vacuum it's often made out to be. Atoms of gas give the universe a ubiquitous atmosphere of sorts, albeit a very thin one.

Sound, unlike light, travels by compressing a medium. On Earth, the atmosphere works well as a sound-carrying medium, as does water. The planet itself is very adept at transmitting an earthquake's seismic waves, a form of sound.

Space, though not as efficient, can also serve as a medium.

If a brave and clever astronaut could safely remove her helmet and shout into the cosmos, her voice would carry.

"We wouldn't be able to hear the sound because our ears aren't sensitive enough," explains Lynn Carter, a graduate student in astronomy at Cornell University. Not enough atoms -- if any -- would strike our eardrums. "Maybe if we had an amazingly large and sensitive microphone we could detect these sounds, but to our human ear it would be silent."

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Even better, thanks Aether.
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Sounds in Space: Silencing Misconceptions

Sound can travel through space, because space is not the total vacuum it's often made out to be. Atoms of gas give the universe a ubiquitous atmosphere of sorts, albeit a very thin one.

Sound, unlike light, travels by compressing a medium. On Earth, the atmosphere works well as a sound-carrying medium, as does water. The planet itself is very adept at transmitting an earthquake's seismic waves, a form of sound.

Space, though not as efficient, can also serve as a medium.

If a brave and clever astronaut could safely remove her helmet and shout into the cosmos, her voice would carry.

"We wouldn't be able to hear the sound because our ears aren't sensitive enough," explains Lynn Carter, a graduate student in astronomy at Cornell University. Not enough atoms -- if any -- would strike our eardrums. "Maybe if we had an amazingly large and sensitive microphone we could detect these sounds, but to our human ear it would be silent."

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lmao

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I'm not very educated on this matter, so bear with me... If space is not empty, why is there no sound in space? Plasma is made up out of molecules right? So shouldn't soundwaves be able to travel in space?
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The Sounds Of Space
In the late 1970s, NASA launched two small spacecraft, Voyager I and Voyager II, and sent them through our solar system, past the planets, and then far out into interstellar space.

Voyager 1, now the most distant human-made object in the universe, and Voyager 2, close on its heels, continue their ground-breaking journey, studying the region in space where the Sun's influence ends and the dark recesses of interstellar space begin.

The entire Voyager program is considered by many to be the most productive, and certainly the most cost-effective, space program ever.
Outer space is filled with all sorts of electronic waves. The two Voyager spacecraft detect these electronic signals and then, with radio transmitters as powerful as a small lightbulb, transmit the signals back to earth, where they are converted to audible sounds.

Yes, I know: electronic waves and energy are not "sound." These sounds were derived and created from the transmitted signals by converting the electronic waves to audible frequency. The resulting sounds are fascinating and haunting.
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Transmission of sound requires a medium millions and billions of times denser than that in space.
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Transmission of sound requires a medium millions and billions of times denser than that in space.
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for human hearing maybe...vibrations and frequency = sound...
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Transmission of sound requires a medium millions and billions of times denser than that in space.


for human hearing maybe...vibrations and frequency = sound...
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Well, "sound" IS about human hearing, isn't it?

The point is that anyone who maintains that sound waves (from about 200 Hz to 35,000 Hz) can be transmitted in space, is pulling your plonker!
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The Sounds Of Space
In the late 1970s, NASA launched two small spacecraft, Voyager I and Voyager II, and sent them through our solar system, past the planets, and then far out into interstellar space.

Voyager 1, now the most distant human-made object in the universe, and Voyager 2, close on its heels, continue their ground-breaking journey, studying the region in space where the Sun's influence ends and the dark recesses of interstellar space begin.

The entire Voyager program is considered by many to be the most productive, and certainly the most cost-effective, space program ever.
Outer space is filled with all sorts of electronic waves. The two Voyager spacecraft detect these electronic signals and then, with radio transmitters as powerful as a small lightbulb, transmit the signals back to earth, where they are converted to audible sounds.

Yes, I know: electronic waves and energy are not "sound." These sounds were derived and created from the transmitted signals by converting the electronic waves to audible frequency. The resulting sounds are fascinating and haunting.
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Great vid...liked Earth's Song best...could almost hear the life...

Didn't mean to hijack this thread...so apologies...

peace
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Transmission of sound requires a medium millions and billions of times denser than that in space.


for human hearing maybe...vibrations and frequency = sound...


Well, "sound" IS about human hearing, isn't it?

The point is that anyone who maintains that sound waves (from about 200 Hz to 35,000 Hz) can be transmitted in space, is pulling your plonker!
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That is like saying light only exists when our eyeballs can discern it...not so...light exists as spectrum...as with sound
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This stuff is incompatible with Einstein's theories and is therefore summarily dismissed.


lmao

I truly, truly laughed my ass off! Yes, theories...that is the crux of humankind's joke...
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Glad you got a kick out of it, Sickscent.

Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe" and Roger Penrose's "The Road to Reality" go thru a hell of a lot of Einstein kiss-ass before they get around to their own ideas, the former being string theory, and the latter being twister theory. I couldn't believe the way Penrose seemed to go off the deep end there...)

hf
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Transmission of sound requires a medium millions and billions of times denser than that in space.


for human hearing maybe...vibrations and frequency = sound...


Well, "sound" IS about human hearing, isn't it?

The point is that anyone who maintains that sound waves (from about 200 Hz to 35,000 Hz) can be transmitted in space, is pulling your plonker!


That is like saying light only exists when our eyeballs can discern it...not so...light exists as spectrum...as with sound
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Well, let's do an experiment.

The best vacuum chambers on Earth can just about approximate the vacuum of space.

Let's get a volunteer to enter the chamber when fully evacuated, remove helmet, and scream as loud as possible.

What do you think the result would be?

lol
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This stuff is incompatible with Einstein's theories and is therefore summarily dismissed.


lmao

I truly, truly laughed my ass off! Yes, theories...that is the crux of humankind's joke...



Glad you got a kick out of it, Sickscent.

Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe" and Roger Penrose's "The Road to Reality" go thru a hell of a lot of Einstein kiss-ass before they get around to their own ideas, the former being string theory, and the latter being twister theory. I couldn't believe the way Penrose seemed to go off the deep end there...)

hf
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I've read Greene's Elegant Universe...it is funny how things mentioned in his work could be so extremely simplified if he rejected certain 'dogmas' of science...his string theory is beautiful...it is when he convolutes the entire theory with mathematical fantasies of muons and quirks, etc...It is a shame that someone with that type of vision doesn't suppose other 'theories' that make much more sense than merely the academic fallacies...
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Re: Transient Events in the Plasma Universe
Transmission of sound requires a medium millions and billions of times denser than that in space.


for human hearing maybe...vibrations and frequency = sound...


Well, "sound" IS about human hearing, isn't it?

The point is that anyone who maintains that sound waves (from about 200 Hz to 35,000 Hz) can be transmitted in space, is pulling your plonker!


That is like saying light only exists when our eyeballs can discern it...not so...light exists as spectrum...as with sound


Well, let's do an experiment.

The best vacuum chambers on Earth can just about approximate the vacuum of space.

Let's get a volunteer to enter the chamber when fully evacuated, remove helmet, and scream as loud as possible.

What do you think the result would be?

lol
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OK...you sir, are an idiot...either that, or you did not read my response...

If I got a dog whistle and blew it as loud as I could, would you hear it? Since you did not hear it, then you say it is not sound...? Fucking idiot...sorry, but your argument is crap...
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Re: Transient Events in the Plasma Universe
Transmission of sound requires a medium millions and billions of times denser than that in space.


for human hearing maybe...vibrations and frequency = sound...


Well, "sound" IS about human hearing, isn't it?

The point is that anyone who maintains that sound waves (from about 200 Hz to 35,000 Hz) can be transmitted in space, is pulling your plonker!


That is like saying light only exists when our eyeballs can discern it...not so...light exists as spectrum...as with sound


Well, let's do an experiment.

The best vacuum chambers on Earth can just about approximate the vacuum of space.

Let's get a volunteer to enter the chamber when fully evacuated, remove helmet, and scream as loud as possible.

What do you think the result would be?

lol


OK...you sir, are an idiot...either that, or you did not read my response...

If I got a dog whistle and blew it as loud as I could, would you hear it? Since you did not hear it, then you say it is not sound...? Fucking idiot...sorry, but your argument is crap...
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I thought you were an intelligent and rational person.

I was wrong.

Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on.
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Re: Transient Events in the Plasma Universe
Transmission of sound requires a medium millions and billions of times denser than that in space.


for human hearing maybe...vibrations and frequency = sound...


Well, "sound" IS about human hearing, isn't it?

The point is that anyone who maintains that sound waves (from about 200 Hz to 35,000 Hz) can be transmitted in space, is pulling your plonker!


That is like saying light only exists when our eyeballs can discern it...not so...light exists as spectrum...as with sound


Well, let's do an experiment.

The best vacuum chambers on Earth can just about approximate the vacuum of space.

Let's get a volunteer to enter the chamber when fully evacuated, remove helmet, and scream as loud as possible.

What do you think the result would be?

lol


OK...you sir, are an idiot...either that, or you did not read my response...

If I got a dog whistle and blew it as loud as I could, would you hear it? Since you did not hear it, then you say it is not sound...? Fucking idiot...sorry, but your argument is crap...


I thought you were an intelligent and rational person.

I was wrong.

Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on.
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lmao
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Re: Transient Events in the Plasma Universe
Transmission of sound requires a medium millions and billions of times denser than that in space.


for human hearing maybe...vibrations and frequency = sound...


Well, "sound" IS about human hearing, isn't it?

The point is that anyone who maintains that sound waves (from about 200 Hz to 35,000 Hz) can be transmitted in space, is pulling your plonker!


That is like saying light only exists when our eyeballs can discern it...not so...light exists as spectrum...as with sound


Well, let's do an experiment.

The best vacuum chambers on Earth can just about approximate the vacuum of space.

Let's get a volunteer to enter the chamber when fully evacuated, remove helmet, and scream as loud as possible.

What do you think the result would be?

lol


OK...you sir, are an idiot...either that, or you did not read my response...

If I got a dog whistle and blew it as loud as I could, would you hear it? Since you did not hear it, then you say it is not sound...? Fucking idiot...sorry, but your argument is crap...


I thought you were an intelligent and rational person.

I was wrong.

Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on.


lmao
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That was fun! Come on! chuckle