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Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...

 
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
my argument is only insane assholes are vegan so my argument stands sparky.
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He was insane asshole when he used to have a normal meat diet. Now he sounds more saner than most of us. Your argument is stinky. s226
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
..about vegans being weak, skinny pussies. As also the argument that your body needs animal protein so badly that you will drop dead if you stop ingesting meat.

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EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT MIKE TYSON IS WRONG
AFTER GOING FROM PROFESSIONAL HIGHS TO PERSONAL COLLAPSE, HE'S NO LONGER A CHAMPION OR A PUNCH LINE—JUST A FIGHTER. AND A VEGAN TO BOOT.


First of all... he was already huge BEFORE he became vegan... so your point is totally void.

Secondly one thing I know about mike that isn't wrong is the fact that he is a convicted rapist who converted to a violent, sexist oppressive religion.

So you'll forgive me if I don't put too much stock in the lifestyle choices of Mike fucking Tyson.


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THE WORLDS BIGGEST BODYBUILDER IS A VEGETARIAN!


At 7 feet 3 inches tall, 2.21 meters, Khali, the Biggest BodyBuilder in the world, is not a meat-eater, HE IS A VEGETARIAN!

Known as THE GREAT KHALI, born Dalip Singh, weighing in at a massive muscular 435 pounds, over 190 Kilograms, is now acknowledged as the most massive National Title Holding Bodybuilder in the World.

To give you an idea, Khali would weign nearly a Full 200 pounds more than Arnold Schwarzenegger. Nearly double the weight of Arnold. And standing at OVER 7 feet tall, Arnold's head would come up to about Khali's armpit.

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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
You can still cook a veggie burger patty on his grill.

There's your protein. And a can of BBQ beans and you are all set!

Hope he's taking B12 supplements. People don't understand you got to do that if you go veggie.

If not, he's going to have problems and then people will say "see, just like Tyson, it's not good for you". STUPID!

Whatever.

Taco bell will make you a taco with beans instead of meat, just ask.

Healthier and good protein.

You people just have to unlearn. And then learn something useful.
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07/16/2010 09:11 AM
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
..about vegans being weak, skinny pussies. As also the argument that your body needs animal protein so badly that you will drop dead if you stop ingesting meat.

[link to www.details.com]

EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT MIKE TYSON IS WRONG
AFTER GOING FROM PROFESSIONAL HIGHS TO PERSONAL COLLAPSE, HE'S NO LONGER A CHAMPION OR A PUNCH LINE—JUST A FIGHTER. AND A VEGAN TO BOOT.
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He always was a weird mother fucker.
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
..about vegans being weak, skinny pussies. As also the argument that your body needs animal protein so badly that you will drop dead if you stop ingesting meat.

[link to www.details.com]

EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT MIKE TYSON IS WRONG
AFTER GOING FROM PROFESSIONAL HIGHS TO PERSONAL COLLAPSE, HE'S NO LONGER A CHAMPION OR A PUNCH LINE—JUST A FIGHTER. AND A VEGAN TO BOOT.


He always was a weird mother fucker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038042


To all those who are unable to look beyond Mike's troubled past, please ignore his case and..

..concentrate on the GREAT KHALI instead. He's bigger than Tyson and a vegetarian from birth.
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
..about vegans being weak, skinny pussies. As also the argument that your body needs animal protein so badly that you will drop dead if you stop ingesting meat.

[link to www.details.com]

EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT MIKE TYSON IS WRONG
AFTER GOING FROM PROFESSIONAL HIGHS TO PERSONAL COLLAPSE, HE'S NO LONGER A CHAMPION OR A PUNCH LINE—JUST A FIGHTER. AND A VEGAN TO BOOT.


He always was a weird mother fucker.


To all those who are unable to look beyond Mike's troubled past, please ignore his case and..

..concentrate on the GREAT KHALI instead. He's bigger than Tyson and a vegetarian from birth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772466


monster<--- The Great Khali!

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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
I hope this helps him in his spiritual evolution.
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does this mean that lions cannot evolve until they give up meat, but that giraffes and elephants can?

you fucking people are hopeless.
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
I hope this helps him in his spiritual evolution.



does this mean that lions cannot evolve until they give up meat, but that giraffes and elephants can?

you fucking people are hopeless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1009642

The consciousness spectrum that humans are within is different than the consciousness spectrum that animals are within. Not that one is better than the other, just different.
(Just as there is a difference in the consciousness between a plant and an animal.)
Humans have the capacity for conscious spiritual evolution, through meditation. It is easier to focus on meditation if the body is not weighed down by heavy digestion. Animal flesh takes hours and hours to digest, thereby hampering the meditation process. Becoming a vegetarian does indeed help humans with spriitual evolution.
Animals do not have the capacity for 'conscious' spiritual evolution, therefore your argument is null and void.
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07/16/2010 09:35 AM
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
what does the great Khali do for a living?
does he work hard in a field or some other manly
work or does he just eat and workout?

Mike tyson turning vegan proves nothing except that is just 1 more reason not to be vegan and if he keeps it up he can be added to the list of crazy violent vegans.

im sure you can be completely vegan and strong but for us average people who work physically for a living there is to
much attention to diet required to get all the important
nutrients we require.

so to date all the vegans i have worked a normal physical
job with have been week and unable to work a long solid day without many long eat breaks.

i would hazard a guesse even the great khali would have trouble with doing a good days work.
big physical bodybuilder muscels built for looks do
not compete in the real world.
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
I always thought Mike was a cocky bully and he probably was...but......but then i saw the interview on Oprah and saw how he had become a changed person and did not like the old ways that he thought he had to be to BE someone in this world.
I applaud the man for showing that he is vulnerable and he has fears and is overcoming them by thinking for himself now. Takes alot of guts to show the world the real you and to not care if folks like you or not.....just to be WHO he is.
Keep going Mike.....you have turned out to be someone I even look up to now......you are showing us your spirituality and that anyone can change IF THEY WANT TO.
I will see you on the NEW EARTH.....the NEW EARTH that those of us who are tired/sick of the mean-ness and greed and just want to live in tune with nature and all life......PEACE to ya Brother! hf
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
I hope this helps him in his spiritual evolution.



does this mean that lions cannot evolve until they give up meat, but that giraffes and elephants can?

you fucking people are hopeless.

The consciousness spectrum that humans are within is different than the consciousness spectrum that animals are within. Not that one is better than the other, just different.
(Just as there is a difference in the consciousness between a plant and an animal.)
Humans have the capacity for conscious spiritual evolution, through meditation. It is easier to focus on meditation if the body is not weighed down by heavy digestion. Animal flesh takes hours and hours to digest, thereby hampering the meditation process. Becoming a vegetarian does indeed help humans with spriitual evolution.
Animals do not have the capacity for 'conscious' spiritual evolution, therefore your argument is null and void.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751667

Your THINKING has no merit my friend. Animals are in tune with nature, only man is so far off of his spiritual path that he has to have major turmoil to get him to change his ways.
I am not a bible believer in spiritual ways, just belive it is a history book with some who had psychic insight just as some do today who are in tune with higher powers etc....
It is known that in the future, animals will no longer eat one another, they will be at a higher consciousness just as those of us who are in tune with nature today and want to continue on with out those humans who like slavery and greed and like stepping all over one another to get where they want at any cost.
You either find light and evolve or you stay in darkness for as long as you need to wake up and say you have had enough.
Not a whole lot of time left in this reality/dimension/old earth to get your affairs in order.......it is your choice.....and its neither good nor bad, just as choice....but those of you who enjoy pain/greed won't be around to bother those of us who do not like it.....peace to you my friend! peace
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07/16/2010 10:19 AM
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
Know I wonder if he'll stop exploiting pigeons. How "vegan" of him.
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07/16/2010 10:29 AM
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
Whenever I see massive resistance to and idea from the brainwashed masses I know there is something there worth pursuing. I was a meateater for 35 years but noticed how anxious the sheep got when this subject came up. Whats the point of brainwashing the sheep unless they use it to suppress the truth?
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
If you click the link, the interview is actually quite good. It seems that Mike really knows himself and is trying hard to do better.
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
what does the great Khali do for a living?
does he work hard in a field or some other manly
work or does he just eat and workout?

Mike tyson turning vegan proves nothing except that is just 1 more reason not to be vegan and if he keeps it up he can be added to the list of crazy violent vegans.

im sure you can be completely vegan and strong but for us average people who work physically for a living there is to
much attention to diet required to get all the important
nutrients we require.

so to date all the vegans i have worked a normal physical
job with have been week and unable to work a long solid day without many long eat breaks.

i would hazard a guesse even the great khali would have trouble with doing a good days work.
big physical bodybuilder muscels built for looks do
not compete in the real world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038076



You mean to say a 'workout' is not physical work?

Congratulations! your post gets the award for being most retarded of all.

Have you considered the possibility that the weak vegans you have observed in real life, probably jumped from a meat diet to vegan diet suddenly and without allowing their body to adjust to the massive diet changes?

Even chain-smokers have to through a long de-addiction process reducing their daily smoking ciggie by ciggie and substituting cigarette smoking with breathing exercises before they can put a total stop to smoking. Deaddiction from drugs also takes a long time..So if substances that are acutely harmful to the body can create strong withdrawal symptoms, its only natural that anyone giving up meat diet in one instant will feel weaker.

Your comment about Khali having trouble having doing a days work is too stupid to merit a response. s226
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
why do you people need icons to justify your own way of life.


I'm not a vegan.

Mike Tyson is being used not to justify vegan-ism, but to counter the argument that turning vegan is impossible because your body needs animal proteins or the argument that vegetable-only diet weakens you.

The point is if a 300 lb gorilla used to a heavy protein diet can turn vegan without any adverse health effect or without losing any physical strength, anyone can.

Kapish?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772466


No, once someone is ALREADY that size, then being a vegan won't make much of a difference.

Someone raised vegan their entire life, however, will NOT turn into a heavy weight champion in their early 20s.
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Don't get so self-righteous, plant eaters:

Plants 'can think and remember'

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Plants are able to "remember" and "react" to information contained in light, according to researchers.

Plants, scientists say, transmit information about light intensity and quality from leaf to leaf in a very similar way to our own nervous systems.

These "electro-chemical signals" are carried by cells that act as "nerves" of the plants.
Fluorescence image of Arabidopsis plant The researchers used fluorescence imaging to watch the plants respond

In their experiment, the scientists showed that light shone on to one leaf caused the whole plant to respond.

And the response, which took the form of light-induced chemical reactions in the leaves, continued in the dark.

This showed, they said, that the plant "remembered" the information encoded in light.
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
why do you people need icons to justify your own way of life.


I'm not a vegan.

Mike Tyson is being used not to justify vegan-ism, but to counter the argument that turning vegan is impossible because your body needs animal proteins or the argument that vegetable-only diet weakens you.

The point is if a 300 lb gorilla used to a heavy protein diet can turn vegan without any adverse health effect or without losing any physical strength, anyone can.

Kapish?


No, once someone is ALREADY that size, then being a vegan won't make much of a difference.

Someone raised vegan their entire life, however, will NOT turn into a heavy weight champion in their early 20s.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034749


Thats why I gave the example of Great Khali who is a vegetarian since his birth.

How did he build such a huge body without meat in his diet? Do you have an answer?
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Don't get so self-righteous, plant eaters:

Plants 'can think and remember'

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Plants are able to "remember" and "react" to information contained in light, according to researchers.

Plants, scientists say, transmit information about light intensity and quality from leaf to leaf in a very similar way to our own nervous systems.

These "electro-chemical signals" are carried by cells that act as "nerves" of the plants.
Fluorescence image of Arabidopsis plant The researchers used fluorescence imaging to watch the plants respond

In their experiment, the scientists showed that light shone on to one leaf caused the whole plant to respond.

And the response, which took the form of light-induced chemical reactions in the leaves, continued in the dark.

This showed, they said, that the plant "remembered" the information encoded in light.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034749


Haven't we argued over this plants vs animals thing a million times before? Please do not divert this thread to the hackneyed veg vs non-veg subject.

The topic of this thread is not superiority of vegetarianism over non-vegetarianism, but the debunking of the argument that conversion from non-veg to vegan diet is bad for physical health of meat-eaters.
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Re: Mike Tyson has turned VEGAN. There goes your stupid argument...
I hope this helps him in his spiritual evolution.



does this mean that lions cannot evolve until they give up meat, but that giraffes and elephants can?

you fucking people are hopeless.

The consciousness spectrum that humans are within is different than the consciousness spectrum that animals are within. Not that one is better than the other, just different.
(Just as there is a difference in the consciousness between a plant and an animal.)
Humans have the capacity for conscious spiritual evolution, through meditation. It is easier to focus on meditation if the body is not weighed down by heavy digestion. Animal flesh takes hours and hours to digest, thereby hampering the meditation process. Becoming a vegetarian does indeed help humans with spriitual evolution.
Animals do not have the capacity for 'conscious' spiritual evolution, therefore your argument is null and void.

Your THINKING has no merit my friend. Animals are in tune with nature, only man is so far off of his spiritual path that he has to have major turmoil to get him to change his ways.
I am not a bible believer in spiritual ways, just belive it is a history book with some who had psychic insight just as some do today who are in tune with higher powers etc....
It is known that in the future, animals will no longer eat one another, they will be at a higher consciousness just as those of us who are in tune with nature today and want to continue on with out those humans who like slavery and greed and like stepping all over one another to get where they want at any cost.
You either find light and evolve or you stay in darkness for as long as you need to wake up and say you have had enough.
Not a whole lot of time left in this reality/dimension/old earth to get your affairs in order.......it is your choice.....and its neither good nor bad, just as choice....but those of you who enjoy pain/greed won't be around to bother those of us who do not like it.....peace to you my friend! peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038107

I am the poster of the spiritual evolution post above. (changed pc's)
No thinking is WITHOUT merit. All "thinking" is with merit, even if you disagree with it. Just like there is no stupid question; all questions show a quest for understanding.
I have been vegan for 13 years, and vegetarian for almost 20. I love and respect animals---that is why I do not eat them.
However, they have a different consciousness spectrum than humans. (Look up Robert Munroe and his writings if you would like to read more.) Animals are on a different spiritual evolutionary path than humans.
Therefore, using the example of saying a lion giving up eating animals will help him evolve is moot, as they are on a different spiritual path.
Humans are omnivores. When humans make the choice to become vegetarians, they are able to focus more, meditate more easily, and spiritually evolve faster.
I was not putting animals down at all. You misunderstood what I was saying. We humans have much to learn from animals, and plants too!
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Looks like the only ear he will be biting off now is corn.
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