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Shelly User ID: 1001295 United States 07/20/2010 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard that this has happened in the past. Stripping Mars and the moon of most of their atmospheres. Maybe Earth too? I don't know if it was the Kolbrin or possibly Immanuel Velikovsky's "Worlds in Collision" where it was said that men would "lose their breath" when it passed close by. They also theorize that our atmosphere used to be denser and that's why large dinosaurs, pterosaurs, etc. lived in our past. They don't believe these giant creatures could survive our current atmosphere, let alone get off the ground in the case of the large pterosaurs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 566542 United States 07/20/2010 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard that this has happened in the past. Stripping Mars and the moon of most of their atmospheres. Maybe Earth too? I don't know if it was the Kolbrin or possibly Immanuel Velikovsky's "Worlds in Collision" where it was said that men would "lose their breath" when it passed close by. Quoting: ShellyThey also theorize that our atmosphere used to be denser and that's why large dinosaurs, pterosaurs, etc. lived in our past. They don't believe these giant creatures could survive our current atmosphere, let alone get off the ground in the case of the large pterosaurs. Interesting information, Shelly. |
Fhirinne User ID: 623339 United Kingdom 07/20/2010 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a planet came into the inner sol system every 3600 years do you really think you would be here debating if it did or not... short answer nope life on earth would never have gotten off its ass to this point in time. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 218281 United States 07/20/2010 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard that this has happened in the past. Stripping Mars and the moon of most of their atmospheres. Maybe Earth too? I don't know if it was the Kolbrin or possibly Immanuel Velikovsky's "Worlds in Collision" where it was said that men would "lose their breath" when it passed close by. Quoting: ShellyThey also theorize that our atmosphere used to be denser and that's why large dinosaurs, pterosaurs, etc. lived in our past. They don't believe these giant creatures could survive our current atmosphere, let alone get off the ground in the case of the large pterosaurs. The moon is too small to have enough gravity to have ever held onto an atmosphere. Mars doesn't have a magnetic field because it doesn't have a liquid core. Therefore, it's atmosphere has been stripped over eons by the solar wind. On earth, our magnetic field shields the atmosphere from being stripped away by the charged particles from the sun. There simply is no evidence whatsoever that px exists, much less has ever made a trip through the inner solar system. The orbits of the inner planets have way too little eccentricity to have ever been majorly disturbed. Velikovsky has been proven wrong many times over. [link to abob.libs.uga.edu] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1038381 United States 07/20/2010 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They also theorize that our atmosphere used to be denser and that's why large dinosaurs, pterosaurs, etc. lived in our past. They don't believe these giant creatures could survive our current atmosphere, let alone get off the ground in the case of the large pterosaurs. Have you ever read the theory that the earth did not receive rain before the Great Flood...could explain why Noah had such a tough time convincing the locals of the impending flood due to RAINS. It also fits in with the "Rainbow Covenant" God made "after" the flood....was that the FIRST rainbow? Each "stipping" makes major changes...this time it's TRIAL BY FIRE....I guess we're down to the final layers! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 07/20/2010 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard that this has happened in the past. Stripping Mars and the moon of most of their atmospheres. Maybe Earth too? I don't know if it was the Kolbrin or possibly Immanuel Velikovsky's "Worlds in Collision" where it was said that men would "lose their breath" when it passed close by. Quoting: ShellyThey also theorize that our atmosphere used to be denser and that's why large dinosaurs, pterosaurs, etc. lived in our past. They don't believe these giant creatures could survive our current atmosphere, let alone get off the ground in the case of the large pterosaurs. Yes, Worlds in Collision talks about this event. Velikovsky claims that Mars had it's atmosphere ripped away by Venus on a very close encounter. Venus was a comet, Velikovsky claimed that Venus was "born" out of Jupiter, I think to fit into Babylonian (or Sumerian?) mythology. But James McCanney believes that Venus was a comet, temporarily captured by Jupiter's gravitational field, which escaped Jupiter's gravity and then headed in towards the sun. It had a couple of orbits with the sun, as noticed in the Mayan calendar that describes the 52-57 year event. Each orbit had close encounters with earth and mars as the orbit was very elliptical in shape. When Venus was finally "captured" by the sun it settled into a more circular orbit. The Venus event was described by nearly all ancient calendars and myths, and it has large significance in the esoteric societies. Velikovsky was ridiculed by mainstream science primarily because he supported catastrophism which lies in direct opposition to the doctrine of uniformity which itself supports Darwin's theory of evolution. It is difficult to argue Velikovsky's theories in this forum and others since he made the mistake of making all kinds of conjectures about astronomy which were later determined to be way off base. However his work on history and the ancient calendar systems is very good. Unfortunately, Karl Sagan was used by the PTB and mainstream science to ridicule Velikovsky into the dustbin of scientific history. |
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ookie User ID: 865973 United States 07/20/2010 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mammoths, flash frozen, is evidence of localized atmospheric stripping in earths past. the mammoths were exposed to space for a few seconds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 868423It takes quite a bit more than a few seconds to flash freeze a woolly mammoth. It would take hours. They had thick fur, skin and fat. They were built to survive cold temps. I doubt they would notice temps of -250 for a few seconds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 218281 United States 07/20/2010 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Velikovsky was ridiculed by mainstream science primarily because he supported catastrophism which lies in direct opposition to the doctrine of uniformity which itself supports Darwin's theory of evolution. It is difficult to argue Velikovsky's theories in this forum and others since he made the mistake of making all kinds of conjectures about astronomy which were later determined to be way off base. However his work on history and the ancient calendar systems is very good. Unfortunately, Karl Sagan was used by the PTB and mainstream science to ridicule Velikovsky into the dustbin of scientific history. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432Virtually all of what he claimed was found to be "way off base". Read and learn... [link to abob.libs.uga.edu] |
ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 United States 07/20/2010 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Information ************************************ fortitudo et spes ************************************ When Japan happened I responded: "The Excrement Has Impacted the Rotary Oscillator." and clearly it has. Thread: The Excrement Is Striking the Rotary Oscillator +++++++++++++++ "Ego et Dominus sumus amici" +++++++++++++++ Ego et mea umbra +++++++++++++++ 'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’ - U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Realeyesrealizereallies. C. Thread: GIRD uP as GRID Collapses Thread: Eugenics 101 (Page 27) Thread: Frankenfoods for YOU (Page 2) Thread: I Do Not Consent Thread: FOOD Thread: Cern Power___Colder than Space Thread: Hempilation Compilation Contemplation Thread: Harmonics and Healing (Page 35) Thread: Sarah's Nightmare (Page 10) Thread: Destination Maccabees Thread: Let's Play a GAME Thread: Throat Singing |
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Shelly User ID: 1001295 United States 07/20/2010 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Worlds in Collision talks about this event. Velikovsky claims that Mars had it's atmosphere ripped away by Venus on a very close encounter. Venus was a comet, Velikovsky claimed that Venus was "born" out of Jupiter, I think to fit into Babylonian (or Sumerian?) mythology. But James McCanney believes that Venus was a comet, temporarily captured by Jupiter's gravitational field, which escaped Jupiter's gravity and then headed in towards the sun. It had a couple of orbits with the sun, as noticed in the Mayan calendar that describes the 52-57 year event. Each orbit had close encounters with earth and mars as the orbit was very elliptical in shape. When Venus was finally "captured" by the sun it settled into a more circular orbit. The Venus event was described by nearly all ancient calendars and myths, and it has large significance in the esoteric societies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432Velikovsky was ridiculed by mainstream science primarily because he supported catastrophism which lies in direct opposition to the doctrine of uniformity which itself supports Darwin's theory of evolution. It is difficult to argue Velikovsky's theories in this forum and others since he made the mistake of making all kinds of conjectures about astronomy which were later determined to be way off base. However his work on history and the ancient calendar systems is very good. Unfortunately, Karl Sagan was used by the PTB and mainstream science to ridicule Velikovsky into the dustbin of scientific history. I'm reading Worlds in Collision right now. I wonder if what they thought was Mars or Venus was really Nibiru and during one of its passes, Venus was captured by the sun. Maybe it was formerly one of Nibiru's satellites. I don't think because his conclusions were wrong that that makes all the information he collected unusable. There's so much mystery to our past. I don't believe in the internet hype that it is due in 2012 or that it comes every 3600 years. I don't see how we can have any clear idea of when it is coming until we spot it. I think scientists need to find it first, before we can get a clear idea. Here are some links I saved that are pretty interesting. [link to www.space.com] [link to xxx.lanl.gov] [link to www.darkstar1.co.uk] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 991880 United States 07/20/2010 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm reading Worlds in Collision right now. Quoting: ShellyWhy Velikovsky was wrong... [link to abob.libs.uga.edu] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 991880 United States 07/20/2010 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here are some links I saved that are pretty interesting. Quoting: Shelly[link to www.space.com] [link to xxx.lanl.gov] [link to www.darkstar1.co.uk] Shot down just today... [link to www.space.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 868423 Canada 07/20/2010 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mammoths, flash frozen, is evidence of localized atmospheric stripping in earths past. the mammoths were exposed to space for a few seconds. Quoting: ookieIt takes quite a bit more than a few seconds to flash freeze a woolly mammoth. It would take hours. They had thick fur, skin and fat. They were built to survive cold temps. I doubt they would notice temps of -250 for a few seconds. well they were flash frozen. at 1 degree above absolute 0 i have no idea how long it would take to freeze a mammoth. but do remember that their terrain became polar very shortly afterword. this is why the meat is still edible. its a badge of honor in the north to eat mammoth. i am told its pretty disgusting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14235 United States 07/20/2010 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mammoths, flash frozen, is evidence of localized atmospheric stripping in earths past. the mammoths were exposed to space for a few seconds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 868423It takes quite a bit more than a few seconds to flash freeze a woolly mammoth. It would take hours. They had thick fur, skin and fat. They were built to survive cold temps. I doubt they would notice temps of -250 for a few seconds. well they were flash frozen. at 1 degree above absolute 0 i have no idea how long it would take to freeze a mammoth. but do remember that their terrain became polar very shortly afterword. this is why the meat is still edible. its a badge of honor in the north to eat mammoth. i am told its pretty disgusting. WHAT? Mammoth Burgers? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 991880 United States 07/20/2010 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mammoths, flash frozen, is evidence of localized atmospheric stripping in earths past. the mammoths were exposed to space for a few seconds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 868423It takes quite a bit more than a few seconds to flash freeze a woolly mammoth. It would take hours. They had thick fur, skin and fat. They were built to survive cold temps. I doubt they would notice temps of -250 for a few seconds. well they were flash frozen. at 1 degree above absolute 0 i have no idea how long it would take to freeze a mammoth. but do remember that their terrain became polar very shortly afterword. this is why the meat is still edible. its a badge of honor in the north to eat mammoth. i am told its pretty disgusting. The "flash frozen mammoths" story is just that...a story. [link to www.don-lindsay-archive.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1041227 United States 07/20/2010 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mammoths, flash frozen, is evidence of localized atmospheric stripping in earths past. the mammoths were exposed to space for a few seconds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880It takes quite a bit more than a few seconds to flash freeze a woolly mammoth. It would take hours. They had thick fur, skin and fat. They were built to survive cold temps. I doubt they would notice temps of -250 for a few seconds. well they were flash frozen. at 1 degree above absolute 0 i have no idea how long it would take to freeze a mammoth. but do remember that their terrain became polar very shortly afterword. this is why the meat is still edible. its a badge of honor in the north to eat mammoth. i am told its pretty disgusting. The "flash frozen mammoths" story is just that...a story. [link to www.don-lindsay-archive.org] Is your aptitude monitored? Do you get less pay when the assigned thread ignores you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1041464 Ireland 07/21/2010 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you enjoy quoting bullshit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1041227Don't care one way or the other. The bigger question is, why do you enjoy camping out in someone else's thread and telling them how incorrect they are? Perhaps it is because they are so laughably incorrect. |