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If you have to pray to God then aren't you doing it?

 
Phishna
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If you have to pray to God then aren't you doing it?
[link to phishna-reinvented-god.blogspot.com]

excerpt:

"How prayer really works

Why do human’s pray? No other animal on this planet prays. Humans believe god to be a separate all powerful being living in heaven and that praying to god will get him to act on one's behalf. If god was man’s supra-consciousness living up in heaven of the collective mind then we could understand that god must be accessed through prayer, although we could just focus our mind.

We expect a positive response if we pray long enough. Why doesn't god answer the prayer the first time, every time like in the movie "Bruce Almighty"? To a skeptic, god’s special powers don't seem very powerful. The not so obvious answer is that we are answering our own prayers, but because of our lack of understanding and skill the power of our prayers is vastly insufficient. Effective praying isn't within the mind, it's the soul's feelings actualizing an intention.

Why do we pray at all? Why do we call out to the gods, angels, saints, or personalities of particular deities? Religions teach that if you want a certain thing, pray to a specific deity or to god because you’ll have the best chance of actualizing your wish. Why do we love cartoons of superheroes, men with special powers or god-like characters that can rescue us? Why indeed? The not so obvious answer is that our prayers don't work.

Belief in the gods is the answer to impotent praying. With belief the prayer becomes more powerful because belief changes the quality of the thought behind the prayer. The problem is that we lack "knowingness" so we substitute faith. Faith is the magic prop, like a magic wand, that allows the believer to manifest. Christians decry magic yet prayer is magic, when a group of Christians pray for a certain outcome they are in fact practicing black magic, bending the Universe to their collective will. That's why I call call it "preying", prayer used as a weapon.

So how should one pray effectively? Really believe or learn how to consciously direct your soul. Firstly, if you want to attract something, then feel it. You must feel it within your heart, that's the key. Imagine an energy field extending out to infinity, you as a cell of the Universe. This is what you really are, part of a greater being, the genie out of the lamp. So this greater self will give you whatever you truly wish for, because it is everything already. Now think clearly what you wish for while holding this feeling of gratefulness in heart felt love. Your thought becomes the information on the heart carrier wave.

Feel --> Think --> Know --> Accept

Now change the quality of your wish, which is your intention, to knowingness. That becomes certainty, you must be certain of what you actually want, otherwise how will the Universe know what to give you? So what feels right to you? Once you perfect the technique then just know while holding the feeling of gratefulness. No verbal prayer, chanting, nail biting, church going, worrying, sweating, or work is necessary. Stop trying and start being. It took a very long path to learn that one.

The end result of learning how to perfect prayer is to not pray. Real prayer is a state of knowingness, that is to know that everything is already granted, but by that time you will probably not want anything because you'll be feeling the divinity within and that presence will trump material concerns. So be aware of what beholds a spiritual path if you wish to stay grounded in the earthly realm.

Finally, it could be said to just be present, that is, live in the moment. Eventually, once initiated into this divine realm, that human will is abandoned in favor of the presence. This is an experiential thing, no amount of verbose can explain that feeling within that you've found heaven. This centeredness is the soul finding home in the divine matrix when one's spiritual intentions align with the physical self. In fact you can tune in and out of this realm at will. But once again, it bears mentioning, this ought to be easy and natural but most find it difficult because of our materially lost culture.

In the meantime, for us mere mortals, we should engage the material realm, manifest our desires, live our passions, become that which we are, and create our experience, but be aware that the end game is giving up on this realm. Often it is said to surrender but that has a negative connotation since the divine form of surrender is really no surrender but acceptance of the higher order by living in the presence, otherwise known as the present moment."
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07/20/2010 10:58 AM
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Re: If you have to pray to God then aren't you doing it?
Prayer does not have a proven track-record, even tho billions practice it on a daily basis.

But i am sure they are doing it all wrong, right?
Phishna (OP)
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07/20/2010 12:24 PM
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Re: If you have to pray to God then aren't you doing it?
the mass of people operate in mass delusion

what the masses believe often is disproved by science

like the earth at the center of the Universe or solar system

just because everyone believes in god and prayer doesn't mean they are right or correct in their understanding of how it works

their are still people who believe in the flat earth
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07/20/2010 12:28 PM
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Re: If you have to pray to God then aren't you doing it?
Have you ever tried it?

Don't "knock" it until you've tried it! I can attest that it works!
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07/20/2010 12:36 PM
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Re: If you have to pray to God then aren't you doing it?
We pray and thank God befor every meal,
And befor we go to bed.

And nobody will tell me I can't.
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07/20/2010 12:59 PM
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Re: If you have to pray to God then aren't you doing it?
Prayer is the way you live....you live your life as a prayer.

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