Who is the Morning Star? Jesus or Lucifer?

One and the SAME.

"As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;" John 3;14

AND

"And Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived." Numbers 21:19

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You are CRAZY than shit! You know who the fallen angel is. Your not that dunb. The Devil his self!!!

This topic is the cause of so much confoundment, I'm not even going to comment this time around.



-Evenstar

Really?



You're serious



Forum trolls are STILL misquoting the bible for attention?



Gee, I figured that would've died out years ago.

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I fell down to earth like this

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Only to give my light to her...:)

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The Fallen is Lucier and the Morning Star is Jesus!

Never does it call Lucifer a Morning Star and never does it call Jesus Fallen, so . . . .

Ribbit

BOTH, its a riddle you have to figure out, Its easier using and going back to the original Greek, Then one understands.

They are one in the same.

(It's not inconceivable that Morning Star is a rank or title which was formerly held by Lucifer, but no longer is.)

Who 1-starred this? It's a legit question.

The verses you quoted tells you exactly who the Morning Star is - It is Jesus of course.

Can't you read?? Lucifer is call the son of the
morning.

You mean you can't see the difference in 'son of the morning' and 'Morning Star'?

If you Believe the Illuminati

Lucifer is Jesus

The one and Only Savior of Mankind.

Who The Fuck Do You Think Lucifer is?

There Is No Lucifer in the Bible.

Neither the morning star is Gabriel, the First Created Son of Michael and Mother Spirit of Nebadon. Gabriel is chief executive in our universe. He is NOT an arch angel. And obviously there is NO knowledge that is correct in this thread about Jesus or Lucifer. Lucifer is DEAD, he was uncreated and no longer exists. Jesus is our Creator Son, Michael. Father of GAbriel and also FAther of Lucifer.

Neither.


Morning Star is the Blessed Mother.

At creation the morning stars sang for joy (Job 38:7 - sons of God, here means angels as it does whenever the phrase is used in the Old Testament). Lucifer was among them. He was an angel.

But creation was achieved through the Son of God. That is Jesus. He is not an angel, but part of the triune Godhead; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Jesus said "I am the ... morning star." (Rev 22:16) That would be Venus.

Pharaoh Ramses II claimed to be the morning star in "The Ten Commandments," 1956. Ramses would be more like Lucifer (bright star - light bringer), who is referred to in Isaiah 14:12.

They are not the same person. They are Christ and antichrist. Antichrist mimics Christ. He tries to get there first, like the giants occupying Canaan land when the Jews came out of Egypt in the Exodus.

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You christians are avoiding the question he is correct



Lucifer is a Latin word (from the words lucem ferre), literally meaning "light-bearer", which in that language is used as a name for the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, heralding daylight. Use of the word in this sense is uncommon in English, in which "Day Star" or "Morning Star" are more common expressions.

In English, "Lucifer" generally refers to the Devil, although the name is not applied to him in the New Testament. The use of the name "Lucifer" in reference to a fallen angel stems from an interpretation of Isaiah 14:3–20, a passage that speaks of a particular Babylonian King, to whom it gives the title of "Day Star", "Morning Star" (in Latin, lucifer),


OKAY ITS ACCEPTED THAT SON OF THE MORNING, AND MORNING STAR ARE THE SAME THING


In Revelation 22:16 (KJV), Jesus says: "…I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."


THIS IS THE KINGS JAMES VERSION SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY MEANT TO BE REFER TO JESUS AS THE MORNING STAR LIKE LUCIFER


ANSWER THE QUESTION AND STOP PLAYING GAMES

In the KJV Lucifer is mentioned only once, and that, in the exact scripture that OP has quoted.

Neither - It's talking about the planet Venus. I believe the people in those days thought stars and planets were gods or something...

i never realized the morning star is so huge like it is for about a week... Maybe i am looking in the sky more often these times...

Venus has a Pentagonal orbit every 8 years.. Makes a pentagram. Its called the Shekinah.

Ooh, I forgot about that. . .

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If you notice that isnt as easily answered as it looks

"while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels [a] shouted for joy?"

Yet it points a difference between angels and morning stars.


Perhaps in this case it was not a symbolic title but literal stars, but this is actually one of the places the rumor of satan being a good singer started

Please notice that Isaiah refers to him as the 'son of the morning,' not the 'Morning Star,'- there is a difference. As to being the 'son of the morning,' Lucifer was one of the first created beings, and nearly, if not, perfect also... Only for this reason does he dare to presume that he might also serve as 'God.' He fell far... but by the nature of the all-encoompassing love and grace that is 'God,' he will be also redeemed again. It is this exact quality which Lucifer lacks that makes our 'God' what He is... Holy, and worthy to be praised...

Morning Star is an office held by either Jesus or Lucifer. check out videos by ken klein. he has some good info

Both?

Yin/yang

Jesus represent one side, lucifer the other, both are sons in there own worlds(double spiril, double sun). Both have there own light?

You have the phyical sun, that man can see, you have a mental sun (mind), that lays within, the thoughts are its rays.

Why is mind represented as a serpent, because it represents the riseing of conscousness.

There are more then 1 morning stars. I really wish i could remember the passage, but it refers to morning stars praising God while the angels sing.

,I Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things in the churches. I am the root and the spawn of David, and I am the bright Morning Star(LUCIFER).


"So we have the prophetic message more fully confirmed. You will do well to be attentive to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star (LUCIFER)rises in your hearts." - 2 Peter 1:19


"... from my Father. To the one who conquers(DESTROYS) I will also give the morning star(LUCIFER)." - Revelation 2:28