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Drinking iced tea may increase risk of developing kidney stones

 
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Drinking iced tea may increase risk of developing kidney stones
What can be better than a tall cold glass of ice tea on a hot summer day?
Bad news for iced-tea lovers. The refreshing beverage, which I favor because it's tasty even without sweetener, contains high concentrations of oxalate. Turns out oxalate's a key culprit in creating kidney stones
For people who have a tendency to form kidney stones, it's definitely one of the worst things you can drink,” said Dr. John Milner, assistant professor, Department of Urology, Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medicine, Maywood, Ill.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Occurrence in nature

Oxalate occurs widely in the plant kingdom, e.g. fat hen (lamb's quarters), sorrel, and Oxalis species. The root and/or leaves of rhubarb and buckwheat are listed as being high in oxalic acid.[2] It arises biosynthetically via the incomplete oxidation of carbohydrates.

Other edible plants that contain significant concentrations of oxalate include—in decreasing order—star fruit (carambola), black pepper, parsley, poppy seed, amaranth, spinach, chard, beets, cocoa, chocolate, most nuts, most berries, fishtail palms, New Zealand spinach (Tetragonia tetragonioides) and beans.[citation needed] The gritty “mouth feel” one experiences when drinking milk with a rhubarb dessert is caused by precipitation of calcium oxalate.[citation needed] The calcium is abstracted from the casein in dairy products.

Leaves of the tea plant (Camellia sinensis) contain among the greatest measured concentrations of oxalic acid relative to other plants. However the infusion beverage typically contains only low to moderate amounts of oxalic acid per serving, due to the small mass of leaves used for brewing."

Most tea you get out anywhere is the weakest excuse for a beverage. Our whole family drank ice tea year round and it was brewed fairly strong. I call bullshit on this study. Probably funded by coca-cola. Ice tea home brewed is pennies per serving at most.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042062

Thanks. I do not drink iced tea and cola-cola, I drink only fresh water and good red and white wine.
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The Jesuits at Loyola U have no interest in your continued good health, or truth in science for that matter.


Some believe kidney stones are due to too much animal protein and also carbonated drinks. These cause bone loss, which then exits the kidney. Journal of Nutrition report:
[link to jn.nutrition.org]
[link to www.nutraingredients.com]
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Iced tea and not stoned. I have no phear here. Fuk your doom!
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You have to love these breaking medical stories though.

Look for the catch phrases and keywords, it's always the same.

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May Decrease:
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After so many years of this crap no one knows for themselves anything. Year after year these things last about as long as your average fad and people jump on board for whatever is dangled in front of them. You'd think by now we have a medical utopia with everyone living lives of perfect health and extended lifespans. What we have are perpetual patients and on the whole it's almost sickening to walk down the street or go to the shops seeing the carnage. This reality juxtaposed with the glamor models on magazines and on television.
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ill drink whatever I want I dont give a shit what that article says
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5. Kidney Stones.

What's the first thing a doctor told you to give up, nutritionally, when you got your kidney stone? Calcium. No dairy. None of those vitamin/mineral things with calcium in them, because they have the stupid, naive, ignorant belief that the calcium in your kidney stones comes from the calcium you eat. When, in fact, it comes from your own bones when you have a raging calcium deficiency. A raging Osteoporosis then causes kidney stones. We learned a thousand years ago in the agricultural industry, if you want to prevent kidney stones in livestock, you had better give them more calcium. You had better give them more magnesium, and more boron. Now the reason is, of course, bulls and rams, male cattle and sheep, have special anatomy, when they get a kidney stone, they die. It's called water belly. They die. When you and I get a kidney stone, we just wish we were dead. But no farmer is dumb enough to pay for the feed for an animal, and have it die before he can either eat it or send it to market. So we learned how to prevent those things. So you should have gotten a recall notice from your doctor, especially those people who have had kidney stones. Your urologist should have sent the notice to you.

This was about 15 months ago, March, 1993, it says, "Calcium limits kidney stone risk." This is from the Harvard Medical School in Boston. "In a study that turns conventional medical wisdom on its head, researchers have found that people whose diets are rich in calcium run a reduced risk of developing kidney stones. A study of more than 45,000 people who are ranked in the 5 categories, the group that had the most calcium had no kidney stones." So it took them a thousand years to catch up.

About 5 years ago, when I started out on this crusade, and started lecturing to people all across America, and I'm in one time zone and the next , and although I knew I was going to get crazy out there doing this, last year I was on the road 300 days out of the year. 300 out of 365 days, and so I decided I needed to have a hobby I could take with me. Everytime I get a little whacko, I could go in my room and do this hobby and I would be okay. It would be kind of like having a little piece of home with me wherever I went. I wanted to have a hobby that would help other people. I didn't want to collect baseball cards, cause I like football. And I didn't want to do crossword puzzles, which is good mental exercise, but wouldn't help anybody else. I couldn't take my compost pile, (I like to garden), and hotels don't like that, you know. So I decided I was going to collect obituaries of doctors and lawyers.

Now as crazy as that sounds, remember I told you that doctors live to an average age of 58 and we live to 75.5, and here's a group of people who pontificate you and tell you, "Well this is what you need to do. You need to give up salt. No caffeine, and you need to not eat butter, and eat margarine, and do all these crazy things." And they die at age 58 on the average. Of course all those people who live to be 120-140, they put a chunk of rock salt in their tea everyday, and they drink 40 cups of tea a day. 40 chunks of rock salt. And they cook with butter instead of olive oil. And they live to be 120. So who you going to believe, the people who live to be 58, or the people who live to be 120? It's your choice.

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ill drink whatever I want I dont give a shit what that article says
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1041807

You are free to drink what you want, this is only a warning.
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Re: Drinking iced tea may increase risk of developing kidney stones
The Jesuits at Loyola U have no interest in your continued good health, or truth in science for that matter.


Some believe kidney stones are due to too much animal protein and also carbonated drinks. These cause bone loss, which then exits the kidney. Journal of Nutrition report:
[link to jn.nutrition.org]
[link to www.nutraingredients.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038317

Thanks. In fact, the article recommends eating a little meat.
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Re: Drinking iced tea may increase risk of developing kidney stones
Yikes! we harvest Lambs Quarter here in the spring and cook and eat it like spinach, the "gritty" feel on the teeth is really there after eating this. Looks like this spring treat is coming to an end!

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