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PROOF -- BP Deepwater Horizon Drilled TWO Wells That Blew Out on FEB 13 and APR 20

 
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I posted this before and I will again:
Report from haliburton for last 2 hours before trasnmission lost at 21:19 on 4/20/10

no idea what it means though :(

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It shows to me there was no drilling going on where the torque graph is blank.Looks like just before the rig went offline that the flow in and flow out went off the charts. That must have been flow in and out of the riser connected to deepwater?
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If this is for real...why hasn't oil COVERED more beaches? I know, I know, but they couldn't cover-up that much oil with ANY amount of Corexit?

WHERE'S ALL THE CRUDE OIL????

and why is it blood red?

Hmmmmmmmmm... hey Matt more questions for you
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In no way do I trust BP, but I wonder the same thing. Where is all this oil going. If we still have a gusher out there, oil should still be washing up on the beaches.
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I posted this before and I will again:
Report from haliburton for last 2 hours before trasnmission lost at 21:19 on 4/20/10

no idea what it means though :(

[link to energycommerce.house.gov]
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Sometimes that's all we can do - disseminate information in hopes that someone will put it all together.

This is a thread about things that can be scientifically analysed and verified. Nothing "woo woo" here.

This is the just plain work of tracking ships and coordinates, and studying documents.

Actually I do not "want" to believe what this thread is giving evidence towards.

But if we are to study and analyse information dispassionately -- strictly from the evidence, and not from what 'we are being told' -- then it leads to significant likelihood of a drastic situation.

My jury is "out". Neither a believer nor a disbeliever.

But I am more than willing to examine raw data and evidence.

Even if most people out there in the big wide world -- are not

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I believe the oil appears "blood red" because of the disspersant corexit.The blood red also appears in revelation8:8. A third of the sea turned into blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died,and a third of the ships were destroyed.
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Here is the screenshot for the A and B wells from Google Maps pro.

.6 miles apart:

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Your screen shot actually shows.. 0.06 miles.

Or 6 100ths of a mile or 96 meters.
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I posted this also last week titled chasm in GOM is actual original well site, but it disappeared, Matt simmons has been saying this all along.
Good job OP, you deserve the pin.
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This would also explain why some of the workers who died, their wife's were concerned, and so were some of the workers.

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If this is for real...why hasn't oil COVERED more beaches? I know, I know, but they couldn't cover-up that much oil with ANY amount of Corexit?

WHERE'S ALL THE CRUDE OIL????

and why is it blood red?

Hmmmmmmmmm... hey Matt more questions for you



In no way do I trust BP, but I wonder the same thing. Where is all this oil going. If we still have a gusher out there, oil should still be washing up on the beaches.
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it is
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Here is the screenshot for the A and B wells from Google Maps pro.

.6 miles apart:

[link to tinypic.com]


Your screen shot actually shows.. 0.06 miles.

Or 6 100ths of a mile or 96 meters.
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Ok I misread it.

So we have the coordinates of these two wells, and they are 100 meters apart.

So how does that reconcile with what the OP is claiming?
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So wait, I'm kinda getting lost here.

You are saying we've been watching the 1st well or the relief well.

I believe we are watching the relief well all this time, but i don't think that is what I am reading here.

Can someone clarify?

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The rov pictures showing a bop are at the first well what op calls well A. Nancy from canada wrote here that the marine ship link showed the skandia rov was at the well A spot. You've been watching the bop at the first well which is not the well that destroyed the horizon rig.
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Ok, so I am reading it right. Then if the 1st well is the one we've been watching, why did it have a bent riser pipe hanging off of it?

If the 1st well was damaged below and there was no blowout - then why the bent riser.

Not arguing, just working on solving this for myself.
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If this is for real...why hasn't oil COVERED more beaches? I know, I know, but they couldn't cover-up that much oil with ANY amount of Corexit?

WHERE'S ALL THE CRUDE OIL????

and why is it blood red?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1043434


It's Abiotic Oil which is described as red.

In its simplest form, the Abiotic Oil theory is that carbon present in the magma beneath the crust reacts with hydrogen to form methane.

Experiments have shown that under extreme conditions of heat and pressure it is possible to convert iron oxide, calcium carbonate and water into methane, with hydrocarbons containing up to 10 carbon atoms, confirmed in recent US experiments.

The absence of large quantities of free gaseous oxygen in the magma prevents the hydrocarbons from burning and therefore forming the lower energy state molecule carbon dioxide.

The conditions present in the Earth's mantle would easily be sufficient for these small hydrocarbon chains to polymerise into the longer chain molecules found in crude oil.

This also explains why this oil field contains 40% methane, under enormous pressure.

This is bad news.
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So wait, I'm kinda getting lost here.

You are saying we've been watching the 1st well or the relief well.

I believe we are watching the relief well all this time, but i don't think that is what I am reading here.

Can someone clarify?

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The rov pictures showing a bop are at the first well what op calls well A. Nancy from canada wrote here that the marine ship link showed the skandia rov was at the well A spot. You've been watching the bop at the first well which is not the well that destroyed the horizon rig.


Ok, so I am reading it right. Then if the 1st well is the one we've been watching, why did it have a bent riser pipe hanging off of it?

If the 1st well was damaged below and there was no blowout - then why the bent riser.

Not arguing, just working on solving this for myself.
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Maybe footage from the Horizon? Would like to see ROV co-ordinance the day of the cut off.
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Here is the screenshot for the A and B wells from Google Maps pro.

.6 miles apart:

[link to tinypic.com]


Your screen shot actually shows.. 0.06 miles.

Or 6 100ths of a mile or 96 meters.
 Quoting: OTOC

Anyone else have google map pro? I can't verify this with mapquest or any other free map program on the internet. As far as we know it could be 6 miles or .06 miles. Someone please verify with the lat and long from the first page.
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Uhm... Are you guys sure that the marker labeled "Skandi Neptune" is the actual ROV and not a full-size ship as shown when you click on the marker?
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Here is the screenshot for the A and B wells from Google Maps pro.

.6 miles apart:

[link to tinypic.com]


Your screen shot actually shows.. 0.06 miles.

Or 6 100ths of a mile or 96 meters.

Anyone else have google map pro? I can't verify this with mapquest or any other free map program on the internet. As far as we know it could be 6 miles or .06 miles. Someone please verify with the lat and long from the first page.
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Makes sense that they would drill close to the sweet spot.
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If the first well blew out on feb 3, then why didn't any oil hit the beaches? Surely it wouldn't take 4 months.
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the owner of this oil rig (a Norwegian inteligence officer) started liquidating personal assets (appartment, stock) on MARCH 20th - how this does tie up with FABRUARY 13th?
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I posted this before, but best bet is to YouTube early video of oil spill - remember the broken yellow pipe on skandi feed when only 1000 barrels claimed - look at waterm and northern coordinates of that feed and compare with current feed and with now known well a and b coordinates.
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If the first well blew out on feb 3, then why didn't any oil hit the beaches? Surely it wouldn't take 4 months.
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What is the prevailing wind in the winter in the Gulf? Here it is northwest.
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I'll ask this one last time, where is the source document for this language, where did this originate from?

OP, where did you get this info (highlighted), as it is not in the document you linked to:

WELL #A (the first well that blew and was abandoned)

Latitude 28/44/17.277 N
Longitude 88/21/57.340 W

On location in Mississippi Canyon Block 252 in the Gulf of Mexico, the Deepwater Horizon semi-sub commenced exploration drilling at the Macondo prospect on 03FEB10.

This exploration well had been partially drilled by Transocean in OCT09. The Marianas semi-sub was damaged by hurricane Ida and was removed for repairs in late NOV09.

BP immediately experienced serious problems with its Deepwater Horizon semi-sub operation on 03FEB10. They were unable to seal large cracks at the base of the well for ten days.

BP informed the U.S. Minerals Management Service Dept. of the Interior on 13FEB10 that the cracks were causing uncontrollable bursts of natural gas and they filed a permit to abandon the well immediately.

President Obama was notified of the well blowout on February 13, 2010.

A little touchy there AC or Tony or whoever you really are. you just signed up with glp 6-15 during the oiol crisis. Who do you work for that you are demanding just one last time what op posted and where he got the info from>. if you knew how to read you would see all the other posts here verfying what he wrote from lots of links.Are you a spook? Sure act like it. A paid shill for sure. agent



Shut up cunt.

Did he write it or did it come from a document?

It's a simple fucking question and he never answered it.

Go read my fucking threads, many of which have been pinned and tell me I'm a fucking shill you fucking cunt.
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Don't listen to that cunt. I want to know the answer to this to and I have noticed how your question has gone ignored.

Also, if thses sites are indeed 96 meters apart, then this whole premise goes to shit.

And I ain't no goddamned shill!
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The map in the original source has a scale look at the document.
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If the first well blew out on feb 3, then why didn't any oil hit the beaches? Surely it wouldn't take 4 months.

What is the prevailing wind in the winter in the Gulf? Here it is northwest.
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It is rarely southward. If it is, it normally don't last long.
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I'll ask this one last time, where is the source document for this language, where did this originate from?

OP, where did you get this info (highlighted), as it is not in the document you linked to:

WELL #A (the first well that blew and was abandoned)

Latitude 28/44/17.277 N
Longitude 88/21/57.340 W

On location in Mississippi Canyon Block 252 in the Gulf of Mexico, the Deepwater Horizon semi-sub commenced exploration drilling at the Macondo prospect on 03FEB10.

This exploration well had been partially drilled by Transocean in OCT09. The Marianas semi-sub was damaged by hurricane Ida and was removed for repairs in late NOV09.

BP immediately experienced serious problems with its Deepwater Horizon semi-sub operation on 03FEB10. They were unable to seal large cracks at the base of the well for ten days.

BP informed the U.S. Minerals Management Service Dept. of the Interior on 13FEB10 that the cracks were causing uncontrollable bursts of natural gas and they filed a permit to abandon the well immediately.

President Obama was notified of the well blowout on February 13, 2010.

A little touchy there AC or Tony or whoever you really are. you just signed up with glp 6-15 during the oiol crisis. Who do you work for that you are demanding just one last time what op posted and where he got the info from>. if you knew how to read you would see all the other posts here verfying what he wrote from lots of links.Are you a spook? Sure act like it. A paid shill for sure. agent



Shut up cunt.

Did he write it or did it come from a document?

It's a simple fucking question and he never answered it.

Go read my fucking threads, many of which have been pinned and tell me I'm a fucking shill you fucking cunt.


Don't listen to that cunt. I want to know the answer to this to and I have noticed how your question has gone ignored.

Also, if thses sites are indeed 96 meters apart, then this whole premise goes to shit.

And I ain't no goddamned shill!
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Thank you, I'm just asking for more information and these fucktards automatically regurgitate the shill line like the fucking mindless robots they are.

GLP cyborgs is what they are.

Well, I took the coordinates straight from the BP well plan and pinned them with Google Earth Pro and got the distance in the image i linked.

If someone else can check my work that would be great.
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If the first well blew out on feb 3, then why didn't any oil hit the beaches? Surely it wouldn't take 4 months.

What is the prevailing wind in the winter in the Gulf? Here it is northwest.


It is rarely southward. If it is, it normally don't last long.
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At some points, the wind was blowing oil South West.
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Also, if thses sites are indeed 96 meters apart, then this whole premise goes to shit.

And I ain't no goddamned shill!

Why would 96 meters apart kill the premise? Just asking.
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If the first well blew out on feb 3, then why didn't any oil hit the beaches? Surely it wouldn't take 4 months.
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This is the first thing I thought about, as well, when I first read this thread.

With a full month and a half of oil gushing, shouldn't SOMEONE have noticed and raised a curious eyebrow?
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If the first well blew out on feb 3, then why didn't any oil hit the beaches? Surely it wouldn't take 4 months.

What is the prevailing wind in the winter in the Gulf? Here it is northwest.


It is rarely southward. If it is, it normally don't last long.



At some points, the wind was blowing oil South West.
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I don't doubt the fact that BP is covering up what is really going on. There is no smoking gun pic, showing the first blowout is all. I'd love to see it. I've checked many satellite photo's between both blowouts and cant find anything prior to the April blowout.
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If the first well blew out on feb 3, then why didn't any oil hit the beaches? Surely it wouldn't take 4 months.


This is the first thing I thought about, as well, when I first read this thread.

With a full month and a half of oil gushing, shouldn't SOMEONE have noticed and raised a curious eyebrow?
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i'm not sure you realize how large an area we are talking about...
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If the first well blew out on feb 3, then why didn't any oil hit the beaches? Surely it wouldn't take 4 months.


This is the first thing I thought about, as well, when I first read this thread.

With a full month and a half of oil gushing, shouldn't SOMEONE have noticed and raised a curious eyebrow?
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More like two and a half months. Just clarifying.
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If the first well blew out on feb 3, then why didn't any oil hit the beaches? Surely it wouldn't take 4 months.


This is the first thing I thought about, as well, when I first read this thread.

With a full month and a half of oil gushing, shouldn't SOMEONE have noticed and raised a curious eyebrow?

i'm not sure you realize how large an area we are talking about...
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Oh, I'm sure I don't fully realize just how large an area this is, but it's still within 50 miles of the shoreline, not in the middle of the GOM.

So given what we already know about how far the oil can spread in the 85+ days since we've been "told" about the spill, shouldn't we be able to figure out how far it could have spread between Feb 13 and April 20th?

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