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leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?

 
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leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
seriously. We are 3K below mileage. There are two small dents on the car barely noticable which they are charing us 250 a piece, charging us 120 a piece for 3 new tires and 700 for a small paint stain on the back carpet...and a 350 turn in fee


is the lease agreement so lawyer tight that I am screwed? I do not understand 700.00 for carpet...
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
seriously. We are 3K below mileage. There are two small dents on the car barely noticable which they are charing us 250 a piece, charging us 120 a piece for 3 new tires and 700 for a small paint stain on the back carpet...and a 350 turn in fee


is the lease agreement so lawyer tight that I am screwed? I do not understand 700.00 for carpet...
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You were fucking stupid to get into a lease. You didn't read the fine print of the lease, you got the car on an impulse buy, etc, etc. The fucking lease companies are crooks. Be careful next time, and you will have to chock this up to a good learning experience. Sorry...
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
I'm not going to bash you as you may be just inexperienced, but leasing is a scam.

Especially with how low they're willing to go in terms of interest on a loan these days to finance.

Lease, rent to own, it's sheer usury at best.
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
Claim it on your tax ffs
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
These are egregious charges, I would fight them. Sounds like a good bit of normal wear and tear. I guess I would call different places in your town and see if they would do the same thing if you turned the car into them, just to get an idea of the market. I would also call some sort of consumer agency. Times are tough. If they can get you to do these things then they can sell the car for more money. They are experts on this and you are not so they use that to their advantage. Good luck.
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
& i bet they told you they can wave all the fees if you roll into a new lease. wow - what a great favor (sarcam intended). My gues is its a high pressure sale to get you to resign a lease.

Photograph & measure the 'dings' & contact your states attorney general.

My last lease (work car - leasing helps with taxes) any ding under 1/4 inch was wear & tear.

You can also try to contact the dealership manager - who may prefer to wave fees than fight the attorney general.
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
These are egregious charges, I would fight them. Sounds like a good bit of normal wear and tear. I guess I would call different places in your town and see if they would do the same thing if you turned the car into them, just to get an idea of the market. I would also call some sort of consumer agency. Times are tough. If they can get you to do these things then they can sell the car for more money. They are experts on this and you are not so they use that to their advantage. Good luck.
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yeah thanks traveler. We lease because of my husbands job, and it is completely deductable on our taxes. I know what the lease agreement said and I knew they were going to call us on the tires, there was literally no tread left, there is not much I can do about that I am fairly certain.

My biggest grip is the carpet. Thanks for you input.

This is the kicker, had we released from VW there were be none of these charges, so I know it is a scam...

and traveler, the dealership where we leased the car told us it was in good condtion and they were going to buy it because they needed it on the lot, so I know VW is not going to fix the items they are charging us for..
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
Can you get the car fised at your expense?

or ask them for written quotes from 3 repair shops?
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
& i bet they told you they can wave all the fees if you roll into a new lease. wow - what a great favor (sarcam intended). My gues is its a high pressure sale to get you to resign a lease.

Photograph & measure the 'dings' & contact your states attorney general.

My last lease (work car - leasing helps with taxes) any ding under 1/4 inch was wear & tear.

You can also try to contact the dealership manager - who may prefer to wave fees than fight the attorney general.
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you are exactly correct as my post above says..

those dings are definitely under 1/4 inch you cannot even see them unless you get right up to the vehicle

thanks for the attorney general idea
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
Can you get the car fised at your expense?

or ask them for written quotes from 3 repair shops?
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we no longer have the car and we had scheduled an inspection with VW on the turn in date and they did not show up
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
We lease because of my husbands job, and it is completely deductable on our taxes.
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You realize you can claim all costs for it on your taxes right?
Even the $350 turn in fee?
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
These are egregious charges, I would fight them. Sounds like a good bit of normal wear and tear. I guess I would call different places in your town and see if they would do the same thing if you turned the car into them, just to get an idea of the market. I would also call some sort of consumer agency. Times are tough. If they can get you to do these things then they can sell the car for more money. They are experts on this and you are not so they use that to their advantage. Good luck.
 Quoting: Traveler

Dents and spilled paint are not "normal wear and tear" Those figures are about industry standard. But if I was hit with turn in fees like that I would have just bought the car instead of turning it back in.

Something to consider. Just because you turned the car in at the dealer does not mean you LEASED IT FROM THEM. Many times your lease it thru a bank. When you turn you car in at the dealer it is parked and there it sits until the bank comes to pick it up. The bankers have it inspected and go after fees. If this is the case calling better business or whomever will not help one bit. If its thru the dealership sometimes this will help.....but times are tight and they may fight it. You could loose this money plus legal fees because there are dents and there is paint stain that they can prove.

Never lease anything that isnt a honda or acura, or toyota...Anything with low resale value and you get raped on lease.
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
These are egregious charges, I would fight them. Sounds like a good bit of normal wear and tear. I guess I would call different places in your town and see if they would do the same thing if you turned the car into them, just to get an idea of the market. I would also call some sort of consumer agency. Times are tough. If they can get you to do these things then they can sell the car for more money. They are experts on this and you are not so they use that to their advantage. Good luck.



yeah thanks traveler. We lease because of my husbands job, and it is completely deductable on our taxes. I know what the lease agreement said and I knew they were going to call us on the tires, there was literally no tread left, there is not much I can do about that I am fairly certain.

My biggest grip is the carpet. Thanks for you input.

This is the kicker, had we released from VW there were be none of these charges, so I know it is a scam...

and traveler, the dealership where we leased the car told us it was in good condtion and they were going to buy it because they needed it on the lot, so I know VW is not going to fix the items they are charging us for..
 Quoting: zephyr

Is it a floormat? or the actual carpet? How much labor to you think it takes to remove all your seats, consoles and seat belts, lay down a new carpet, then reinstall all those parts? Im betting this is a 6 hour job, and the new carpet is probably about 300$ at dealer cost.
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
616, we thought about buying but in the end the PASSAT was to small for many of my husbands clients so we elected to get a bigger car. A new VW is still to small and was going to be expensive

the dealership has nothing to do with the lease, it is through VW..ugggh

but I am sure it is still on the lot because the dealership wanted the car
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
Is it a floormat? or the actual carpet? How much labor to you think it takes to remove all your seats, consoles and seat belts, lay down a new carpet, then reinstall all those parts? Im betting this is a 6 hour job, and the new carpet is probably about 300$ at dealer cost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 616779


the paint spilled on the floormat, about 1/4 inch flowed over onto the carpet in the back seat..

the paint is white and it is up along the top of the floorboard....I think they could cut out the strip with the paint and replace that strip and put in a new floor mat and it would be fine
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
We lease because of my husbands job, and it is completely deductable on our taxes.

You realize you can claim all costs for it on your taxes right?
Even the $350 turn in fee?
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ahh thanks a sliver lining.......
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
I got dinged on all kinds of shit like that, but my car fetched way more at auction..... It was a diesel.

Even with all their fees and crap I think I walked with 2k.

Sure it's not much, it should have been 7 but .... C'est la vie I guess.
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
so dont pay it, what the fuck are they gonna do? take the car away from you? fuck them.
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
Look at it as costing you an extra $52 per month for the lease.

I've been screwed so many times by VW. Bad reliability issues.

Buy Hondas. Most are made in the USA. My 2006 Civic has more North American parts then a Ford F150.
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
shameless bump just in case there is any other commentary
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
your first mistake was to lease a fucking vw. good god !!
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
616, we thought about buying but in the end the PASSAT was to small
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What am I missing the Passat is a large family car.
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Re: leased a VW for 3 years, did not go over miles go hit with 1900.00 bill after turning in vehicle...anyone been through this?
616, we thought about buying but in the end the PASSAT was to small



What am I missing the Passat is a large family car.
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not compared to other sedan type models...our family fits in it just fine.....the back seat area is small...oh well thanks to all who helped out, I guess we will just go with the tax write off as suggested by the Australia connection...I do not see much of a way out for us..
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If they just go by thread depth, I would go down to Pep Boys and put a set of cheap tires on it.
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