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So, Who Are The Jews? High IQ, Honor Students, Yes, BUT.....

 
JoeNeubarth (OP)

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Dear OP:

I suggest you stop with your opinions and read this ( [link to www.newscientist.com] - After reading, and actually doing some research on the topic you should come back to GLP and tell us all what you learned.

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I am an accomplished scholar on the subject. As you could read, the article totally confirmed what I wrote in the first frame of this thread.

Here, I will quote from the article, just in case you do not understand: "The genetic analysis shows that amongst modern Jews, the populations that are most genetically similar are those originating from Iraq and Iran. The rest share much more of their DNA with non-Jewish Europeans and North Africans, which may be why many Jews whose recent ancestors lived in Europe or Syria have blond hair or blue eyes."

The Jews picked up DNA from most of the extended areas that they migrated to. In South Africa, they look just like Blacks. In Eastern Asia, they look Chinese. In North Africa they look like the rest of the North Africans. In Europe they have taken on European DNA.

I take it that for some sort of religious reason you want to deny reality????
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Eugenics

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"Eugenics is the study and practice of selective breeding applied to humans, with the aim of improving the species.

I am now looking for studies that link intelligence with
ethics, if any of you can enlighten me in that regard please
post links!
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Proven fact that the children of an Intelligent Father and an Intelligent Mother are usually Intelligent, too.

Another proven fact that the children of a Stupid Father and a Stupid Mother are usually Stupid, too.

Intelligence is an inherited trait.

Stupidity is an inherited trait, too.

I know of no study associating Stupidity or Intelligence with ethics. People are about as ethical as their convictions tell them they have to be. Thus we have need for religion to teach ethics.
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119 is not intelligent. I got tested by Mensa and officially got more in a timed test in a foreign language.

Average IQ in the United States is approximately 100. For the Jews (I am not Jewish) to have an average IQ of 119, that makes them the most intelligent people on the planet.

My German Ancestors average 105. Japanese and Koreans average around 106. Other people score below 100. Only the Jews as tested in America where we give IQ tests to almost all high school students score 119 or above with regularity.
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When I was in high school (a zillion years ago) all the Jewish kids were honor students. They were very bright, and they didn't get into trouble like some of the white (mostly Irish in that area) kids did. They were well behaved and studious.

My Jewish friend told me that throughout the centuries in Jewish communities the most intelligent men were considered the most desirable, whereas most people marry someone they fall in love with, or are married to people their family picks for them due to other reasons. So in a way they had a breeding program that highly valued intelligence which is why Jewish people tend to be very bright.
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119 is not intelligent. I got tested by Mensa and officially got more in a timed test in a foreign language.

Average IQ in the United States is approximately 100. For the Jews (I am not Jewish) to have an average IQ of 119, that makes them the most intelligent people on the planet.

My German Ancestors average 105. Japanese and Koreans average around 106. Other people score below 100. Only the Jews as tested in America where we give IQ tests to almost all high school students score 119 or above with regularity.


I had an average of 124 in the second test of mensa which I never completed for thinking too slowly on the last part of their test (did only half of it), carried out in English not my mother tongue. At that time I never knew they had a separate test for foreigners but in the end did not bother to repeat it.

I think social competence is more important. IQ is not much a sign of superiority.



How about "wisdom" being the ultimate sign of "intelligence". Wisdom = among other virtues, being kind and definitely not needing to be "clever" so as to be able to manipulate and scam others in order to satisfy your greedy, dysfunctional desires. TPTB have "higher" IQs, i'm sure, but they are wholly and sorely lacking in wisdom -- and will ultimately pay the price for their lack.
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Yes there are some bad nasty Jews but most that I have encountered in my life were very wise, kind and warm (and funny!).
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I have meet quite a few high IQ people in my time and unfortunately they all seem to have very low morals, and do really stupid things on occasion.

Indeed! My mother after her divorce from my father ran around with the Hyde Park Bohemian Crowd in Chicago in the Fifties. There were many famous people who were artistically inclined in that group. All were highly intelligent. Many were PhDs. Many of those were professors at the University of Chicago.

If they had one thing in common, they were all atheists and all had liberal sexual morals. They seemed to realize that they were gods among men because they were so gifted. Intelligent people value intelligence in a breeding partner, even if they are using protection to prevent pregnancy. Intelligence attracts intelligence.
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When I was a little kid we lived outside D.C. My father was a PhD research scientist, and in our neighborhood there were lots of the men were scientists. About 80% of the familes were Jewish. One of them won the nobel prize in medicine.
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Most intelligent people love learning and being creative. Believe it or not, the vast majority of highly intelligent people are not wealthy.


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This is quite true.. The majority of wealthy people are not smart enough to second guess their own intelligence.. Most wealthy people have an iq above average, but well below genius..

Extremely intelligent people tend to over think everything.. Genius level people tend to be eccentrics..
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Yes there are some bad nasty Jews but most that I have encountered in my life were very wise, kind and warm (and funny!).
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All the Jews that I have met in my life have been the nicest persons that I have ever known. When I was a youngun, I had Jewish girlfriends (I subconsciously think that was because I wanted to do the exact opposite of what my father wanted.) Years later, I eventually married, but to a Norwegian girl who looked a lot like Tiger Woods wife (Damn he was a fool to run around on a beauty like her.). She got fat, so I had to get married again and the second time was to a Norwegian and English girl who was a top honor student in high school and College. All of our kids took after their mother. (Note, I was not a top honor student in high school or college.)
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Extremely intelligent people tend to over think everything.. Genius level people tend to be eccentrics..
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My father in the birds and bees lecture to me took it further and advised me on what type of people I was to breed with. One warning stuck out over the years. That was that "Genius is kin to Insanity."

Having seen so many genius types who were borderline nuts, I know that to be true.

So, if you are going to marry for intelligence for your children, do not go overboard.
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I had an average of 124 ...

I think social competence is more important. IQ is not much a sign of superiority.

That sounds like something someone with an IQ of 124 might say.
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And of course your IQ is 180 or some such thing.

It's amazing to me that given the fact that the average IQ is 100, or 105 for white people, I have encountered SO many people (mostly men) who claim their IQ is 160 or 180. Since only a slight fraction of human beings have IQs that high, I must've met every one of them that exists!
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Judaism is a supremacy religion, they believe they are better than all others and they even believe that god chose them above all others.

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Thats true, because it's true................. judetha

Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. I really don't see what you are complaining about, the blessing will flow to all.

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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I am now looking for studies that link intelligence with
ethics, if any of you can enlighten me in that regard please
post links!
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Life has shown me that there is indeed a link. I've lived in many places around all kinds of people, and the smarter ones tend to be the most kind, they are the ones by and large who want to help others. There are some bad Jews, and it's easy to focus on them as that is sadly how human nature works. However the vast majority are non-violent and just all around nice people. I don't care for the radical mindset some do have (especially in regards to their views on the middle east), but most are not like that.
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Judaism is a supremacy religion, they believe they are better than all others and they even believe that god chose them above all others.


Thats true, because it's true................. :judetha:

Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. I really don't see what you are complaining about, the blessing will flow to all.
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This guy here is an example of the warrior Jews. Don't care much for people like that.
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This guy here is an example of the warrior Jews. Don't care much for people like that.
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judethc

blumerl You'd better get used to it, things have changed.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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119 is not intelligent. I got tested by Mensa and officially got more in a timed test in a foreign language.
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Yea sure, everyone on GLP has an IQ of 190, $10 million in the bank, a yacht, and a gulf stream, right?

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119 is not intelligent. I got tested by Mensa and officially got more in a timed test in a foreign language.

Yea sure, everyone on GLP has an IQ of 190, $10 million in the bank, a yacht, and a gulf stream, right?
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kitty Does Monopoly money count?
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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This guy here is an example of the warrior Jews. Don't care much for people like that.

:judethc:

:blumerl: You'd better get used to it, things have changed.
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I am not scared of you or Esther's chopped off heads.

So there!
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Or Judith's chopped off heads. Or whoever that is.
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It is bullshit. The jews may be better behaved due to religion but they are no smarter. No race is. Blacks are not less iq either. Your darwinian eugenic is a lie. As is claim of evolution.
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What is the point of this thread?
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Or Judith's chopped off heads. Or whoever that is.
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:flag34:judethd:flag34:

.....................................................It was head singular, not plural.

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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Or Judith's chopped off heads. Or whoever that is.

:flag34::judethd::flag34:

.....................................................It was head singular, not plural.
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I thought you had a picture or video before that showed her walking with 2 heads? Maybe I am mistaken though.

You have to realize that in America the Israeli/Palestinian issue is not as pressing as it is to the Jewish people living in Israel because we have not experienced it, especially those of us who are not Jewish. (Most Americans would not even be able to find Israel on a map.) Yet it has become an issue for Americans because of our close ties to Israel. All I know is that everyone suffers, I'm convinced that it's what life is all about and it's meant to be that way for reasons unknown to us.

I do know that some Israeli Jews are very affected by their situation to the point that they don't trust anyone who is not Jewish which is sad because there some non Jews who are nice people who care.
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I think the 4 women referred to by the OP may have been Rh-Negative. Think about it, the four woman, not related and no known origin....RH-Negative blood types...4 of them, unrelated and no known origin...

It's possible - read the whole article on the Origins page of [link to www.RhNegativeRegistry.com]
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I've lived in many places around all kinds of people, and the smarter ones tend to be the most kind, they are the ones by and large who want to help others. There are some bad Jews, and it's easy to focus on them as that is sadly how human nature works. However the vast majority are non-violent and just all around nice people. I don't care for the radical mindset some do have (especially in regards to their views on the middle east), but most are not like that.
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The proof is in the DNA

The blue eyes and blond hair and negroid features and asian epicanthal fold eyelid features can not be denied. That is the result of breeding with diverse people, and it was done in very strong fashion from the standpoint of a genetic clock. When all of the people in a community look like the people of the host country just ten generations later, at least fifty percent of the women along the way were inviting the men of that host country to breed with them instead of their potential Jewish male mates.

Millions of Jews of Germany and Poland were blond and had blue eyes when Hitler took power. Sadly, only a few of them escaped the ovens. Since we are dealing with a strong continuity of Jewish matriarchal mitochondrial DNA that has been passed on, all those blond hair and blue eyed babies came from sperm cells that did not look the least bit kosher.

I know a lot of Jews in Brooklyn (with their curly sideburns and black hats) who would flat out tell you that the mothers of those blond haired and blue eyed babies could not be Jews, because once the blood was diluted, it was no longer Jewish. They won't even accept DNA as a means of proof. If the kids look like fuggin Krauts, it is because it was Krauts fuggin.

The same thing applies in Africa. It they looked like fuggin Blacks, it was because of Blacks fuggin.

The same thing applies in Asia with the exception of the countries immediately around ancient Israel. For some reason the Jews that went to Iraq and Syria and Iran retained a strong amount of their Jewish DNA from both the Jewish men and the Jewish women. I suspect that THAT was because of persecution. Lock them in a ghetto as most Islamic countries did, and the women did not do what the Jewish women of Europe or China or Africa or now North & South America did.
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What is the point of this thread?
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Education! It is always important to learn.

Case in point. Across town from me lived a woman and her husband, a Mrs. and Mr Rigby. They who were both white of English and Irish background had five children. The first was white. The second was white. The third looked totally Mexican. The fourth looked mostly Mexican and the Fifth was Black as the ace of spades.

Mr. Rigby had a vasectomy after the birth of the second child. Mrs. Rigby insisted that the two brown and one black child were his. Mr. Rigby who was very gullible believed his wife.

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Proven fact that the children of an Intelligent Father and an Intelligent Mother are usually Intelligent, too.

Another proven fact that the children of a Stupid Father and a Stupid Mother are usually Stupid, too.

Intelligence is an inherited trait.

Stupidity is an inherited trait, too.

I know of no study associating Stupidity or Intelligence with ethics. People are about as ethical as their convictions tell them they have to be. Thus we have need for religion to teach ethics.
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Your ramblings have proven nothing to me.
And you are INCORRECT sir...we do not NEED RELIGION
to teach or comprehend ethics...that is an absurd idea.
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Proven fact that the children of an Intelligent Father and an Intelligent Mother are usually Intelligent, too.

Another proven fact that the children of a Stupid Father and a Stupid Mother are usually Stupid, too.

Intelligence is an inherited trait.

Stupidity is an inherited trait, too.

I know of no study associating Stupidity or Intelligence with ethics. People are about as ethical as their convictions tell them they have to be. Thus we have need for religion to teach ethics.


Your ramblings have proven nothing to me.
And you are INCORRECT sir...we do not NEED RELIGION
to teach or comprehend ethics...that is an absurd idea.
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Religion has been a strong teacher of ethics for hundreds of years. It has not always been effective at it, so now the colleges have ethics training. I doubt that they will succeed.
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She got fat, so I had to get married again
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As if this entirely contrived post you made wasn't bad enough, you admit to something like this.

lol

What a piece of shit.

Edit: Also, shut the fuck up 9teen.47.

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I am now looking for studies that link intelligence with
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Life has shown me that there is indeed a link. I've lived in many places around all kinds of people, and the smarter ones tend to be the most kind, they are the ones by and large who want to help others. There are some bad Jews, and it's easy to focus on them as that is sadly how human nature works. However the vast majority are non-violent and just all around nice people. I don't care for the radical mindset some do have (especially in regards to their views on the middle east), but most are not like that.
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I agree with you and my experience is similar.
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Why isn't a Christian or Muslim "born" ... probably a "self-hating Jew" article below but folks, please ..... matriarchy has left the auditorium ... it is a CULTURE a RELIGION not a RACE like being Arabic, Caucasian, Negroid, et al any more than being European or North American or Christian is a race ... one can convert to Judiasm, but one can not convert to being white or black or brown or yellow ... get a grip.

Hebrew is the smallest Semite-speaking culture ... Arabs are Semites, as well. Semitic is a LANGUAGE. I love all the Abrahamic folk, but this is over the top.


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Judiaism is not a race
Judaism is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry. For instance, Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are both "Jewish." However, whereas Ashkenazi Jews often hail from Europe, Sephardic Jews often hail from the Middle East. People of many different races have become Jewish over the centuries.

Judaism is not a nationality
Although today Israel is often called the Jewish homeland, being Jewish is not a nationality because Jews have been dispersed throughout the world for almost two thousand years. Hence, Jews come from countries all over the world.

Judaism is both a cultural and religious identity
Being Jewish means that you are part of the Jewish people, whether because you were born into a Jewish home and culturally identify as Jewish or because you practice the Jewish religion (or both).

Cultural Judaism includes things such as Jewish foods, customs and rituals. For instance, many people are born into Jewish homes and are raised eating blintzes and lighting shabbat candles, but never step foot inside a synagogue.
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This guy here is an example of the warrior Jews. Don't care much for people like that.

:judethc:

:blumerl: You'd better get used to it, things have changed.
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israeli submarines all foreign built
Last two German at 650 million each paid for by US
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