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If you eat Eggs or Chicken, you could be DESTROYING your Thyroid Gland, the Master Gland in the body

 
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Here's a disturbing FACT:

ALMOST ALL CHICKEN FEED CONTAINS SOY.

I know because we raise chickens.

IF you want to eliminate SOY from your diet, you need to buy FREE RANGE FARM EGGS from a supplier who feeds his chickens with an Organic NON-SOY feed... there are about 3 available in the US; all on the East Coast.

I want to feed it to my chickens, but it will cost me $50.00 just to get 5 lbs...

ANYONE WITH THYROID ISSUES SHOULD AVOID SOY AS IT SUPPRESSES THE THYROID.
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Can you give us the name of the three suppliers? I use only organic, free-range eggs, but don't know what they feed them.
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This is one supplier: [link to www.hilandnaturals.com]

Here is another: [link to www.countrysidenatural.com]

I can't find my bookmark for the third...
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Here's a disturbing FACT:

ALMOST ALL CHICKEN FEED CONTAINS SOY.

I know because we raise chickens.

IF you want to eliminate SOY from your diet, you need to buy FREE RANGE FARM EGGS from a supplier who feeds his chickens with an Organic NON-SOY feed... there are about 3 available in the US; all on the East Coast.

I want to feed it to my chickens, but it will cost me $50.00 just to get 5 lbs...

ANYONE WITH THYROID ISSUES SHOULD AVOID SOY AS IT SUPPRESSES THE THYROID.
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Good info, thx
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Just because your supplier says they feed Organic feed to their chickens DOES NOT MEAN THERE IS NO SOY.

MOST ORGANIC FEEDS CONTAIN SOY.

AND THE SOY STAYS IN THE CHICKEN'S FLESH AS WELL AS IS PASSED TO THE EGGS.

It is a SERIOUS issue and we are working with our local Feed Store to try to get a group together to buy in bulk to drop the shipping cost which on the West Coast (where I live) is the biggest negative of buying this feed.
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It won't affect you negatively if you have enough iodine in you.
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Really?

When my uncle raised chickens he'd buy a 50 pound bag of cracked corn every now and then, they'd have access to plants, gravel and bugs and they were fine generation after generation for many decades.
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Really?

When my uncle raised chickens he'd buy a 50 pound bag of cracked corn every now and then, they'd have access to plants, gravel and bugs and they were fine generation after generation for many decades.
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Don't know where your Uncle lived, but for those of us who live in a Northern climate, Free Range is NOT available year round due to weather. I am in Oregon. We must supplement our chickens in the late fall, winter, and early spring with Layer Pellets. They also get cracked corn, sunflower seeds, and veggie table scraps, but the foundation is a mixed pellet. These have SOY.

I am going to go out on a limb and say ALL COMMERCIALLY RAISED CHICKENS AND THEIR EGGS CONTAIN SOY, as 99.9% of commercial feeds contain soy.

So if you buy your eggs from a grocer, you are getting soy.

If you buy your chickens from a grocer, you are getting soy.
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Really?

When my uncle raised chickens he'd buy a 50 pound bag of cracked corn every now and then, they'd have access to plants, gravel and bugs and they were fine generation after generation for many decades.


Don't know where your Uncle lived, but for those of us who live in a Northern climate, Free Range is NOT available year round due to weather. I am in Oregon. We must supplement our chickens in the late fall, winter, and early spring with Layer Pellets. They also get cracked corn, sunflower seeds, and veggie table scraps, but the foundation is a mixed pellet. These have SOY.

I am going to go out on a limb and say ALL COMMERCIALLY RAISED CHICKENS AND THEIR EGGS CONTAIN SOY, as 99.9% of commercial feeds contain soy.

So if you buy your eggs from a grocer, you are getting soy.

If you buy your chickens from a grocer, you are getting soy.
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Forgot to mention they also get Oyster Shell year round for calcium and their egg shell hardness...
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I just went to the website of one well known organic egg company. They talked about the allergen issue of soy. They claim that the soy gets digested in the chickens and that with the amino acids in the chicken, they supposedly break down the soy to being non-existent and thus soy sensitive people can eat them. Not sure it is true, but I imagine they wouldn't want to be hit with a lawsuit if someone were to get sick, because of what they posted (meaning, if someone was allergic to soy and they ate the eggs, because the company said it was ok). Not my case, but I do have hypothyroidism.
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I just went to the website of one well known organic egg company. They talked about the allergen issue of soy. They claim that the soy gets digested in the chickens and that with the amino acids in the chicken, they supposedly break down the soy to being non-existent and thus soy sensitive people can eat them. Not sure it is true, but I imagine they wouldn't want to be hit with a lawsuit if someone were to get sick, because of what they posted (meaning, if someone was allergic to soy and they ate the eggs, because the company said it was ok). Not my case, but I do have hypothyroidism.
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Well obviously if they are speaking about it, they KNOW it is an issue. I think it would be difficult to pinpoint the source of soy in someone's diet, unless they totally cooked from scratch and only ate this company's eggs and chicken.

I have Hypothyroidism myself, which is WHY this is a big issue to me... and I've been constantly seeking for sources of soy in our diet to eliminate it.

Soy is a soluble that acts like a FAT. The yolk of an egg is where the fat is contained. That's why there's eggs that sold with the claims of "high omega oils" in the yolks.
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I also would like to point out that one of the suppliers I listed, Hi-land Naturals makes a point that their feeds are ALSO "non-GMO feeds" so that should also be a wake-up call for all of us who wish to eliminate those "franken-grains" from our diets.

Again, this should also wake us up to the fact that commercial feeds most likely DO contain GMO feeds...

When we eat an animal or their "by-products" we are eating what they ate, which then was processed by their body into various metabolites which make up the chemistry of the animal. We eat those too.

It is also known that it takes anywhere from 3 days to a week for medications and such to leave the animals system in order for it to be slaughtered and "safe" for human consumption. So eating an animal that has taken in GMO feeds and Soy feeds which would NOT be eliminated from their diet prior to harvest of eggs or slaughter, means you are getting these metabolites in your diet. If you eat a lot of this animal or their by-products you are increasing the amount of these metabolites into your diet.
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I have also heard that soy, via some mechanism, increases estrogen levels. I eat a lot of eggs, and now both of my gonads are almost gone and my ..... is shrinking as well. Is it too late to regrow them? My GF has already left me for an attractive non caucasoid with a 40"er, who is incoherent. When i mentioned this dysfunction to her, she just giggled and said discussion of important matters is very secondary and over rated. I'm in a quandry. Should i rent a strap on in hopes of getting her back. Should i hone my speaking skills to a yet higher level?
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If you listen to idiots like the OP, you are unnecessarily destroying your intelligence.

We have precious little intelligence left in America. We can't afford to throw any more away.
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I have also heard that soy, via some mechanism, increases estrogen levels.
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Yes SHILL, Soy is what is known as a "PHYTO-ESTROGEN."

That is why most natural products for the balancing of female hormones contain soy.

There are other plant sterols that are considered "phyto-estrogens" which do not have the deliterious affects that soy has on the human reproductive system and master hormone, the Thyroid.
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If you listen to idiots like the OP, you are unnecessarily destroying your intelligence.

We have precious little intelligence left in America. We can't afford to throw any more away.
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REALLY!!??!!

Okay SHILL.....

Why don't you back up your claims?!!

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T; you're just A SHILL.
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You have the soy issue because you buy pelleted feed. Find a local mill and talk to them about making up a ration that suits your birds' needs.

For a supplement to whole ground grains for your birds, try:

[link to www.fertrell.com]

They have a distributor in.....Oregon!!

I use local whole grains which are ground into the appropriate size, no soy whatever. Any additional protiens needed for egg production come from my kitchen scraps, most of which is from my organic garden ;)
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I have my own chickens and only feed them corn. They make great eggs.
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You have the soy issue because you buy pelleted feed. Find a local mill and talk to them about making up a ration that suits your birds' needs.

For a supplement to whole ground grains for your birds, try:

[link to www.fertrell.com]

They have a distributor in.....Oregon!!

I use local whole grains which are ground into the appropriate size, no soy whatever. Any additional protiens needed for egg production come from my kitchen scraps, most of which is from my organic garden ;)
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Thank you for your suggestions. Unfortunately where I am we don't have a Mill which will do this for us; I've already looked into that idea.

We are now looking to form a "co-op" with other farmers who will buy the non-GMO non-Soy feed and reduce the shipping cost from one side of the country to the other.

That will solve our problem; but the whole purpose of my post was to inform the general population here on GLP that if they want to avoid SOY, they should be very careful where they get their eggs and chickens for consumption as it's practically impossible to do without buying from a local farmer who does not feed soy to their flock.
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I have my own chickens and only feed them corn. They make great eggs.
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Having your own is the ONLY way to go in my opinion! :-)

BUT, be careful in feeding ONLY CORN, as you may be feeding GMO Corn (that was the first product in the GMO line), and corn which has a very high starch content (sugar) can cause them to become fatty which will slow down your egg production and is overall not good for the health of the chicken. I hope you let them Free Range too! Ours just LOVE those bugs!! Mmmm...crunchy! LOL!!
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I'm ok. I don't have a thyroid gland any more ;)
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Here's a disturbing FACT:

ALMOST ALL CHICKEN FEED CONTAINS SOY.

I know because we raise chickens.

IF you want to eliminate SOY from your diet, you need to buy FREE RANGE FARM EGGS from a supplier who feeds his chickens with an Organic NON-SOY feed... there are about 3 available in the US; all on the East Coast.

I want to feed it to my chickens, but it will cost me $50.00 just to get 5 lbs...

ANYONE WITH THYROID ISSUES SHOULD AVOID SOY AS IT SUPPRESSES THE THYROID.
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This is also what is helping cause the upswing of Thyroid disease in this country...soy is in everything...and I do mean everything, read your lables...(along with HFCS)...if it inhibits the natural thyroid action in those with thyroid disease...what makes anyone think it doesn't affect everyone's thyroid gland?....soy blocks even healthy thyroids from producing the hormone your body needs...Everyone should avoid it...not just those who already have thyroid issues..
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Here's a disturbing FACT:

ALMOST ALL CHICKEN FEED CONTAINS SOY.

I know because we raise chickens.

IF you want to eliminate SOY from your diet, you need to buy FREE RANGE FARM EGGS from a supplier who feeds his chickens with an Organic NON-SOY feed... there are about 3 available in the US; all on the East Coast.

I want to feed it to my chickens, but it will cost me $50.00 just to get 5 lbs...

ANYONE WITH THYROID ISSUES SHOULD AVOID SOY AS IT SUPPRESSES THE THYROID.



This is also what is helping cause the upswing of Thyroid disease in this country...soy is in everything...and I do mean everything, read your lables...(along with HFCS)...if it inhibits the natural thyroid action in those with thyroid disease...what makes anyone think it doesn't affect everyone's thyroid gland?....soy blocks even healthy thyroids from producing the hormone your body needs...Everyone should avoid it...not just those who already have thyroid issues..
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THANK YOU! EXACTLY MY POINT!!

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I have also heard that soy, via some mechanism, increases estrogen levels.


Yes SHILL, Soy is what is known as a "PHYTO-ESTROGEN."

That is why most natural products for the balancing of female hormones contain soy.

There are other plant sterols that are considered "phyto-estrogens" which do not have the deliterious affects that soy has on the human reproductive system and master hormone, the Thyroid.
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Dude, actually i'm definitely no shill. However, i guess i was misinformed. Thanks for the info. BTW, did you find my little saga amusing, at least? I had fun writing it.
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I have my own chickens and only feed them corn. They make great eggs.
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only corn 'eh??? would that be genetically modified corn perhaps??? since 90% of corn produced...IS genetically modified...let's face it...we, are being poisoned on a daily basis...what we think is safe, and used to be safe, is safe no longer...those chickens our uncles/g.parents raised probably did not eat anything genetically modified..
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Good to know thanks =)
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If you can get some like minded people together, most mills will run batches of just a few tons. Figure out your ration and run it by a nutritionist (they have very knowledgeable staff at Fertrells, btw) and then talk to different mills about your ration. You might be quite surprised. And in fact, you might also suggest that offering such a ration would be good for business ;)

This is how one of only a couple mills operating in our state manages to corner that niche market. Our ration has a small amount of kelp, local oats and barley, fish meal for protien, and a smidgen of grit included. I add the kitchen trimmings/veggies of course, but also plain cracked corn and free choice grit and oyster shell. I cannot let them free range until fall since they'd wipe out my garden, haha

My egg production is very good, better than most and I have a coming set of replacement layers that are way bigger than anyone else's-I presume due to the feed management?

The "soy is in every pelleted ration" is maybe true, I do know that those horse people battling Cushings' have a real hard time because beet pulp is in everything, just about.
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OP, what about Turkey?

Thanks

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If you listen to idiots like the OP, you are unnecessarily destroying your intelligence.

We have precious little intelligence left in America. We can't afford to throw any more away.
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If you can get some like minded people together, most mills will run batches of just a few tons. Figure out your ration and run it by a nutritionist (they have very knowledgeable staff at Fertrells, btw) and then talk to different mills about your ration. You might be quite surprised. And in fact, you might also suggest that offering such a ration would be good for business ;)

This is how one of only a couple mills operating in our state manages to corner that niche market. Our ration has a small amount of kelp, local oats and barley, fish meal for protien, and a smidgen of grit included. I add the kitchen trimmings/veggies of course, but also plain cracked corn and free choice grit and oyster shell. I cannot let them free range until fall since they'd wipe out my garden, haha
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Yes I'm also working on that possibility... we're in a funny place in Oregon... lots of "homesteaders" who keep to themselves and grow organic everything... we have a "farm-ette" (under 5 acres) so not enough room to grow it all... but many do grow it all and make their own feeds...

I know what you mean about Free Range and gardens...ours is fenced for that very reason!

Glad to know that Fertrells has nutritionists who will help with the formula. I have "Storey's Guide" which tells you how to make your own feed, but math is NOT my strong point and so figuring out how much of what to fit our size flock also put me off the idea. Thanks!
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Half of all processed premade products in the store contain soy products in them and you are just worried about chicken and eggs?
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