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BREAKING: CHINA CALLS OUR BLUFF!! " The US is Insolvent and Faces Bankruptcy as a Pure Debtor Nation "

 
U.S. = INSOLVENT/BANKRUPT
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BREAKING: CHINA CALLS OUR BLUFF!! " The US is Insolvent and Faces Bankruptcy as a Pure Debtor Nation "
America's biggest creditor - China - has called our bluff.

As the Financial Times notes, the head of China's biggest credit rating agency has said America is insolvent and that U.S. credit ratings are a joke.

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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.
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+1
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.



+1
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+2
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.



+1

+2
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+3
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that was an intended slap in the usa's face at a time when it is going hostile on nk..and told to back off. it's all ominous for this place.
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.
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+3

Just remember that Federal Reserve Notes are a medium of exchange - NOT a store of value.
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.



+1

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+3
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+1,000,000
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.



+1

+2


+3


+1,000,000
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Time to gwdancenuke the chinks!
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plus 4/5/6/7
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These public ratings mean nothing. Nobody with any intelligence believes in them anyway. Big investors with gazillions are not that stupid, nor are Sovereign fund managers. It's more of a geopolitically-inspired honor spat between Sovereigns, which is completely misread by the millions of free-floating idiot investors out there that actually believe in manufactured statistics - from any and all governments.
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These public ratings mean nothing. Nobody with any intelligence believes in them anyway. Big investors with gazillions are not that stupid, nor are Sovereign fund managers. It's more of a geopolitically-inspired honor spat between Sovereigns, which is completely misread by the millions of free-floating idiot investors out there that actually believe in manufactured statistics - from any and all governments.
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+1
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There is nothing to stop china taking over as the worlds superpower.


I'd be strangely disquiet about watching this happen as what can happen?


Consider this?

How many oil producing countries has China invaded and in it's wake ?

The answer?

Nil.
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If China brings down the US financially they bring down China as well. The Chi-coms might be willing to put their people through a crash in order to bring the USA down with a gamble that China will recover and the US won't.

Unlike the US government, the Chi-coms are self interested, long term planners so I doubt their threats to the US economy are real. They want to control the US - not crash the worlds' economies.
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 999224



Think what you can do for yourself at a grassroots level in response to whatever might happen to your circumstances as a result of any of several large scale DOOM scenarios.

For instance---"skyrocketing utility bills", runaway inflation, food shortages etc.

Store food, get a really good water filter--maybe a Berkey,
develop multiple income streams--moonlight, start a small business on the side, buy & sell stuff at yard sales, whatever, learn a survival skill that might be useful when TSHTF preferably one you can use now for bartering or extra cash. Acquire some silver. Learn something about natural medicine and nutrition to stay healthy so you can better cope with whatever happens. Expand your circle of friends and acquaintances--be careful to include only those who you feel are trustworthy people.
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I guess China has not realized yet they could lose control of the Panama Canal, overnight.
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Re: BREAKING: CHINA CALLS OUR BLUFF!! " The US is Insolvent and Faces Bankruptcy as a Pure Debtor Nation "
JAPAN OWNS MORE OF OUR DEBT THAN CHINA DOES...JUST SO YA KNOW.
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You have to put it all together.

China "pays" for our standard of living. Not only by buying our debt giving our dollar legitimacy, but by shipping products made with commodities out, in exchange for the same money. They are wising up to the shell game, and they are exiting as fast as they can, while still keeping their own interests in mind.

One of the comments on the article stated the USA has companies worth trillions. That is true, but what percentage of those companies profits came abroad? And what percentage of those profits depend on a thriving economy? Google's domestic ad sales will plummet once austerity is pronounced.



What percentage of the Dow 30's earnings are made abroad? The leading indicator of our nations economy is making 40% profit overseas. With rampant unemployment, and the Feds fiscal supremacy in doubt, it looks grim.
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America's biggest creditor - China - has called our bluff.

As the Financial Times notes, the head of China's biggest credit rating agency has said America is insolvent and that U.S. credit ratings are a joke.

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Old news.

Nothing happened, except for a global stock market rally.
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Can u say-plok flied lice-
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The US should be borrowing from China to provide free health care to every person on the planet. I saw the US can have 100 trillion in debt with no problem.
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.



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=6
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.



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+4 I prep
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I dont care anymore to be honest. I did not get into this mess, I can not get us out of this mess.

I no longer give a shit until there is something I can do.



+1

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=6
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Dammit. I almost had it.
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It's a POKER GAME.
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When we FOLD the card and call it a day. It's a POKER GAME.

How long can we hold on???
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When we FOLD the card and call it a day. It's a POKER GAME.

How long can we hold on???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 585354

maybe forever. if china destroys the US the whole card game is over. social fabric of the whole world would be removed. no one is ready for that......... unless the chinese figure they can recover.

which means they don't figure they can or are not ready to make the sacrifices of that recovery from the financial abyss.

i am sure the americans have put in some "poison pills" into the chinese system so they can't to do it.

the largest poison pill would be the massive holding of treasuries.
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If we dont buy their cheap walmart shit their populace will be out of work and into an uprising. It already started a bit in 2008 when we first entered our depression.
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If China brings down the US financially they bring down China as well. The Chi-coms might be willing to put their people through a crash in order to bring the USA down with a gamble that China will recover and the US won't.

Unlike the US government, the Chi-coms are self interested, long term planners so I doubt their threats to the US economy are real. They want to control the US - not crash the worlds' economies.
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Just like an old married couple, isn't it romantic?
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America's biggest creditor - China - has called our bluff.

As the Financial Times notes, the head of China's biggest credit rating agency has said America is insolvent and that U.S. credit ratings are a joke.

More @
[link to www.georgewashington2.blogspot.com]
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China is not the largest creditor of the USA by far.
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In the long run this will be a good thing for America. Yeah, it will be tough, real tough for a while.

But it's about time America's manufacturing base returned to America, and not communist China. Then Americans won't have to answer to any communist country.





GLP