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Bad Religion User ID: 1048262 Argentina 07/25/2010 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heres the only bible fact people need to know : Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1048273" religious texts were written by humans who made vast conjectures instead of factual claims mostly for the purpose of controlling, profiting from and brainwashing other illogical humans ". BAD RELIGION "The Answer" Long ago in a dusty village full of hunger, pain and strife a man came forth with a vision of truth and the way to a better life he was convinced he had the answer and he compelled people to follow along but the hunger never vanished and the man was banished and the village dried up and died at a time when wise men peered through glass tubes toward the sky the heavens changed in predictable ways and one man was able to find that he had thought he found the answer and he was quick to write his revelation but as they were scutinized in his colleagues eyes he soon became a mockery don't tell me about the answer 'cause then another one will come along soon I don't believe you have the answer I've got ideas too but if you've got enough naivete and you've got conviction then the answer is perfect for you an urban sprawl sits choking on its discharge overwhelmed by industry searching for a modern day savior from another place inclined toward charity everyone's begging for an answer without regard to validity the searching never ends it goes on and on for eternity |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1047846 United States 07/25/2010 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heres the only bible fact people need to know : Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1048273" religious texts were written by humans who made vast conjectures instead of factual claims mostly for the purpose of controlling, profiting from and brainwashing other illogical humans ". You nailed it! Critical historians have already noted that it was common in the early years of Christianity for different Christian groups to forge gospels and other documents, in order to promote their own view of what Christianity was suppose to be. A lot of the books that made it into the New Testament are forgeries. |
Puddleglum User ID: 1048393 United States 07/25/2010 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unger's Bible Dictionary "At first a disciple of John the Baptist, Andrew was first led to receive Jesus as John pointed him out "the Lamb of God" (John 1:36-40). He then brought his brother Simon to the Master, telling him that he "had found the Messiah" (vs. 41) they both returned to their occupation as fishermen on the Sea of Galilee, and there remained until, after John Baptist's imprisonment, they were called by Jesus to follow him. (Matt. 4:18 ff.;Mark 1:14-18) No contradictions. If I don't reply I am under the ban; I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Personal E-mail is always available. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 861492 United States 07/25/2010 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heres the only bible fact people need to know : Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1048273" religious texts were written by humans who made vast conjectures instead of factual claims mostly for the purpose of controlling, profiting from and brainwashing other illogical humans ". Getting a lot of use of of this one today: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned to fables." - 2 Timothy 3-4 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047614 United States 07/25/2010 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV) 1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. |
Puddleglum User ID: 1048393 United States 07/25/2010 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047614Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV) 1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. Do you disagree with these verses?. If you do. what moral law is the basis of your disagreement? Are you saying that there is a standard by which we can make judgements? If I don't reply I am under the ban; I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Personal E-mail is always available. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047614 United States 07/25/2010 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) Quoting: PuddleglumSlaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV) 1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. Do you disagree with these verses?. If you do. what moral law is the basis of your disagreement? Are you saying that there is a standard by which we can make judgements? What's to disagree with? These verses all make perfect sense. I especially like the last one. It must be okay to rape a young woman as long as you are not caught in the act. |
Puddleglum User ID: 1048393 United States 07/25/2010 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047614Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV) 1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. Do you disagree with these verses?. If you do. what moral law is the basis of your disagreement? Are you saying that there is a standard by which we can make judgements? What's to disagree with? These verses all make perfect sense. I especially like the last one. It must be okay to rape a young woman as long as you are not caught in the act. If I don't reply I am under the ban; I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Personal E-mail is always available. |
Puddleglum User ID: 1048393 United States 07/25/2010 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's to disagree with? These verses all make perfect sense. I especially like the last one. It must be okay to rape a young woman as long as you are not caught in the act. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047614Avoiding the question through sarcasm. How typical. If I don't reply I am under the ban; I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Personal E-mail is always available. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1029780 United States 07/25/2010 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047614If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. So in ancient Judea I could rape some girl and just by paying the father 50 bucks I get to rape her for the rest of her life? |
Eye Opener User ID: 861492 United States 07/25/2010 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HOLY SH*T! That truly is frightening what that street preacher said at the end of the video. Awesome vids, OP! A couple of things to point out... I could fill this entire site with people saying stupid things on video too. All of the names he mentioned in the video: Gregory of Nyssa, Augustine of Hippo, Anselm of Canterbury, Thomas Aquinas, and John Duns Scotus were all related with the Catholic church in some form of fashion. Let's just say that I would be very cautious when dealing with the doctrines of catholicism. The author of the video, like many before him, has taken a portion of an account and left out all of the other pieces of information. It is not hard to shred or destroy anything when you do that. But I wouldn't have much to say here unless I could address the main issue, which is really, "Do infants/children that die get judged by God?" First off, baptism is NOT a requirement for salvation. If it were then salvation in the Biblical Christian sense wouldn't be any different than any of the other world religions which require works to achieve salvation. So to even make the argument that babies can't be saved because they are not baptized is false... and therefore a false teaching. Second, let's look at the deeper issue, and use the Bible to answer the question. I will agree, the Bible does not explicitly outline an answer to this question, but there are observational examples where we can draw solid conclusions to answer this question. 1. Infants are born in iniquity and bear the stain of original sin from the moment of their conception. (fact) 2. God is absolutely sovereign in salvation. We do not deserve salvation and can do nothing to "earn" salvation, and thus it is all of God's grace. (fact) 3. The Bible teaches that we are to be judged on the basis of our deeds committed "in the body." Each will answer to God for what he has done, not for the sin of Adam. (fact) 4. Knowing neither good nor evil, infants are incapable of committing sins in the body, not yet being moral agents, and die secure in the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. (conclusion) A supporting example of this is when Israel rebelled against God in the wilderness after forty years of wandering. God sentenced this generation to die in the wilderness without seeing the promised land, but God exempted the infants and the children because they had no knowledge of good and evil. God did not judge them based on their fathers' sins. I hope this helps to answer the question of infant salvation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047614 United States 07/25/2010 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's to disagree with? These verses all make perfect sense. I especially like the last one. It must be okay to rape a young woman as long as you are not caught in the act. Quoting: PuddleglumAvoiding the question through sarcasm. How typical. LOL, ok, let's examine your "question." "Do you disagree with these verses?." Of course I disagree with these verses. Don't you? BTW, you don't put a period after a question mark. "If you do." This is not even a proper sentence. "what moral law is the basis of your disagreement?" My own sense of right-and-wrong is my basis. I don't need some 2000 year old book to tell me what is right. These are not subtle legal questions. BTW, sentences should start with a capital letter. "Are you saying that there is a standard by which we can make judgements?" Countries all over the world have legal systems based on standards. These standards change over time, which is proper. That's why relying completely on some old book is silly. BTW, you misspelled "judgments." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1047846 United States 07/25/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of the books that made it into the New Testament are forgeries. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038317baseless claim. The Bible is confirmed repeatedly with HISTORY and SCIENCE. Your caveman textbooks are the pagan forgeries. Baseless? Many critical historians accept the fact that many books in the New Testament are forgeries or pseudepigraphy. Those books include: 1 and 2 Peter 2 Thessalonians Colossians Ephesians 1 and 2 Timothy Titus Its accepted by many critical scholars that the books listed above and others were not written by the authors claimed to have written them (that likely includes the gospels as well). They are forgeries in one way or another. Historians can compare the writing styles and other features of written documents and compare them to one another. Take Jesus' disciples, all of whom were probably illiterate villagers who could not read or write. Reading and writing were skills possessed by only a small minority of the population during those times. Also take into account that Christianity started out as an oral tradition and remained that way for nearly 30 years before the first gospel (Mark) was probably written. When you put all these facts together, the New Testament is definitely not something that is entirely trustworthy. |
Puddleglum User ID: 1048393 United States 07/25/2010 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting, all the admissions on this thread that there is a moral law. All the attacks on here are based on a moral law. What is this moral law that all of you believe in so much? Your appeal to the moral law proves that there is a God who is the source of this law. If I don't reply I am under the ban; I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Personal E-mail is always available. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1047846 United States 07/25/2010 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting, all the admissions on this thread that there is a moral law. Quoting: PuddleglumAll the attacks on here are based on a moral law. What is this moral law that all of you believe in so much? Your appeal to the moral law proves that there is a God who is the source of this law. What are you babbling about? |
Puddleglum User ID: 1048393 United States 07/25/2010 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's to disagree with? These verses all make perfect sense. I especially like the last one. It must be okay to rape a young woman as long as you are not caught in the act. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047614Avoiding the question through sarcasm. How typical. LOL, ok, let's examine your "question." "Do you disagree with these verses?." Of course I disagree with these verses. Don't you? BTW, you don't put a period after a question mark. "If you do." This is not even a proper sentence. "what moral law is the basis of your disagreement?" My own sense of right-and-wrong is my basis. I don't need some 2000 year old book to tell me what is right. These are not subtle legal questions. BTW, sentences should start with a capital letter. "Are you saying that there is a standard by which we can make judgements?" Countries all over the world have legal systems based on standards. These standards change over time, which is proper. That's why relying completely on some old book is silly. BTW, you misspelled "judgments." Where did you get this sense of right and wrong? The Bible says God gave it to you as one of the proofs that he exists. The period was supposed to be a comma. I did not misspell judgments If I don't reply I am under the ban; I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Personal E-mail is always available. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1047846 United States 07/25/2010 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did the disciples die for a lie? Part 2 [link to www.youtube.com] Part 3 [link to www.youtube.com] Part 4 [link to www.youtube.com] Part 5 [link to www.youtube.com] Part 6 [link to www.youtube.com] Part 7 [link to www.youtube.com] Part 8 [link to www.youtube.com] |
Puddleglum User ID: 1048393 United States 07/25/2010 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another 'biblical fact': There is no God you jackasses! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1048154It's bullshit made up by primitive idiots who didn't know any better! Primitive idiots that taught you writing, mathematics, how to use a clock, chart the stars, use medicine, chemistry, and built structures that can not be duplicated today. They also knew the earth's relative distance to the stars, how big the earth was, and that it was round. If I don't reply I am under the ban; I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Personal E-mail is always available. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1047846 United States 07/25/2010 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians Do NOT Understand the Bible Part 1 [link to www.youtube.com] Part 2 [link to www.youtube.com] Part 3 [link to www.youtube.com] |