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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1022337 United States 07/25/2010 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With zero checks on who is carrying so basically even criminals can carry legally. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeygo run up on the gangs making meth in phoenix and tell em "hey! you ain't legal carrying that 9mm inside your dickies!!! citizen's arrest!! citizen's arrest!!!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 257017 United States 07/25/2010 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its disconcerting, said Mesa Police Chief Frank Milstead. The fact that anyone can walk around and carry a gun without training is disconcerting. We dont let our police officers walk around with a gun without training. Some people will start shoving a gun down their pants and shoot themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 862727Anyone who owns a gun needs training, including a county sheriff I ran into a couple days ago. He needed to learn the laws, too. What the deputy said was totally WRONG....I didn't bother correcting him. Don't expect law officers to know the laws, either. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1048059 United States 07/25/2010 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With zero checks on who is carrying so basically even criminals can carry legally and what happens when bar fights turn into gun fights. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyThis is the kind of statement that blows away any possibility of credibility on your part. "so basically even criminals can carry legally..." Are you fucking kidding me??? LOL I guess if a criminal legally carries, then that's just one fewer laws they're breaking. As if they gave a shit in the first place. Jesus! That's one of the stupidest statements I've read on this forum in a while and I've read some serious whoppers. |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1044099 United States 07/25/2010 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very bad idea! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047186Typical lib. Guns are OK for me, but everybody else is too stupid. I concealed carry with a permit! I don't have an issue with people carrying legally, but just letting anyone carry without any sort of checks is not a good idea. If you don't have an issue with people carrying legally, then you won't have everyone carrying concealed in Arizona - IT'S COMPLETELY LEGAL! With zero checks on who is carrying so basically even criminals can carry legally and what happens when bar fights turn into gun fights. Not true. The law states that if you cannot own a weapon legally, you cannot carry one. Police are a reactive force not a preventative force. Any preventative act that police take is a breach of constitutional law with few exceptions. Police are not out there to arrest citizens for "thought crimes". Go research before you post. Armed states have less crime. You misunderstand I wasn't talking about convicted felons. Now if the police are investigating someone they can do nothing about them carrying a weapon. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047186 United States 07/25/2010 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a western person, but not a cowboy. I like this law. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyI also think all minorities should be disarmed 100% by law. Any possetion by them should be a capital offence. No guns, knifes of any kind, including switchblades or pocketknifes. Nothing for them. No minorities get to carry to! Still think it's a great law? They do anyways fagboy. All the law does is armed the citizens to equalize the field. You want women and children to die. You like it and desire people to be killed. It's obvious. You are evil and twisted on levels that are unimaginable. |
FUBAR User ID: 980749 United States 07/25/2010 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a western person, but not a cowboy. I like this law. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1026599I also think all minorities should be disarmed 100% by law. Any possetion by them should be a capital offence. No guns, knifes of any kind, including switchblades or pocketknifes. Nothing for them. Sorry bud,you cant do this.You cant discriminate because someone is a minority.I am not a big fan of ni@@ers but i love my black American friends.I hate dirty Spi@K gang bangers but i love my American latino friends.The worst thing i hate in this world is WHITE racist nazi,skinhead scumbags.I am white but i take pride in beating the shit out of Nazis & skinheads(have smacked down quite a few). There are lots of good AMERICANS out there who have different skin tones but our blood is all red. So please fellow American dont say stupid things like you said. NRA LIFE MEMBER. |
Sword0fGideon User ID: 1048310 United States 07/25/2010 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arizona to allow concealed carry without permit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 862727[link to www.informationliberation.com] In less than a week, Arizona residents will be allowed to carry a gun in their pocket or purse without needing paperwork to do so. Senate Bill 1108, which allows people to carry concealed guns with no permit or safety training, takes effect on July 29, the same day controversial immigration legislation is scheduled to begin enforcement. It makes Arizona the third state behind Alaska and Vermont, all supportive of gun rights, to enact a law that raises concerns for law enforcement. Its disconcerting, said Mesa Police Chief Frank Milstead. The fact that anyone can walk around and carry a gun without training is disconcerting. We dont let our police officers walk around with a gun without training. Some people will start shoving a gun down their pants and shoot themselves. SB 1108, sponsored by Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, was signed into law by Gov. Jan Brewer on April 16. People can carry guns without a permit, but still will not be allowed to take a gun into a bar or restaurant without one, as most such establishments prohibit them anyway. why? they can openly wear their guns on their hip etc. why hide it, advertise it Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047186 United States 07/25/2010 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very bad idea! Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyTypical lib. Guns are OK for me, but everybody else is too stupid. I concealed carry with a permit! I don't have an issue with people carrying legally, but just letting anyone carry without any sort of checks is not a good idea. If you don't have an issue with people carrying legally, then you won't have everyone carrying concealed in Arizona - IT'S COMPLETELY LEGAL! With zero checks on who is carrying so basically even criminals can carry legally and what happens when bar fights turn into gun fights. Not true. The law states that if you cannot own a weapon legally, you cannot carry one. Police are a reactive force not a preventative force. Any preventative act that police take is a breach of constitutional law with few exceptions. Police are not out there to arrest citizens for "thought crimes". Go research before you post. Armed states have less crime. You misunderstand I wasn't talking about convicted felons. Now if the police are investigating someone they can do nothing about them carrying a weapon. Nope wrong again (as usual). They have the right to request the firearm and check against several databases. 1 Stolen guns, 2.) If the person carrying the gun has ever been convicted of a felony. Done deal. If they draw the weapon, cop (and possibly other good armed Samaritans) shoots the suspect. What more could you ask? If criminals are armed so too should the citizenry!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 981223 United States 07/25/2010 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a western person, but not a cowboy. I like this law. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047186I also think all minorities should be disarmed 100% by law. Any possetion by them should be a capital offence. No guns, knifes of any kind, including switchblades or pocketknifes. Nothing for them. No minorities get to carry to! Still think it's a great law? They do anyways fagboy. All the law does is armed the citizens to equalize the field. You want women and children to die. You like it and desire people to be killed. It's obvious. You are evil and twisted on levels that are unimaginable. cutting off your own DICK???????? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047186 United States 07/25/2010 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck off again Nikki.Do you not understand "SHALL NOT INFRINGE" This is a great idea.Adults being able to defend themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042635so you don't know how to defend yourself without guns? kewl bruteforce ftfw Why, when you don't have to? Choose 50/50 win ration or 100% win ratio? Especially if you have a family. |
FUBAR User ID: 980749 United States 07/25/2010 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck off again Nikki.Do you not understand "SHALL NOT INFRINGE" This is a great idea.Adults being able to defend themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042635so you don't know how to defend yourself without guns? kewl bruteforce ftfw Oh i can tie you up in knots before i shoot.Believe me.I would never pull my weapon UNLESS i am in,or my family is in danger.The sad truth is my martial arts training does not do shit against a nice .45 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1042635 Finland 07/25/2010 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck off again Nikki.Do you not understand "SHALL NOT INFRINGE" This is a great idea.Adults being able to defend themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047186so you don't know how to defend yourself without guns? kewl bruteforce ftfw Why, when you don't have to? Choose 50/50 win ration or 100% win ratio? Especially if you have a family. and having a gun means that you will have 100% win ratio? how does that work? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1048325 United States 07/25/2010 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most bars in Arizona do not allow weapons and post sign on door (for those who can read english). Kidnappings, cartels, drugs, and illegals ... it's about time the citizens can arm themselves against the flood crossing the border. The government sure isn't helping us out along the border. We Arizonians are sick and tired of being over run and more power to being back in the wild west and having the legal right to bear arms, finally! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047186 United States 07/25/2010 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck off again Nikki.Do you not understand "SHALL NOT INFRINGE" This is a great idea.Adults being able to defend themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1042635so you don't know how to defend yourself without guns? kewl bruteforce ftfw Why, when you don't have to? Choose 50/50 win ration or 100% win ratio? Especially if you have a family. and having a gun means that you will have 100% win ratio? how does that work? Easy, assholes approach you and ask you the time or ask for money or some other shit and you help them in whatever manner you can...and sometimes they go away. Sometimes they don't they nudge in a little too close or get pushy about money or whatever and you simply place you hand on your weapon and say "I'm armed and trained, it'd work out best for you to stay away from me and my family". Trust me...people walk away when they hear that. |
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Tali User ID: 1016393 United States 07/25/2010 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the time Zonies to get your kids in gun classes. Gun education is very very very important no matter what your state laws are. Kids need to be familiar with guns, know the real damage they can do, and know what to do if they encounter a gun. When I first moved here and took my kids (baby and a toddler at the time) to their new pediatrician he handed me a flyer for gun safety classes for kids. I was blown away at first, I was very anti-gun at the time...but over the years it has made sense to me that they are familiar and know the rules. Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1044099 United States 07/25/2010 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's awesome. Quoting: TaliThis is the time Zonies to get your kids in gun classes. Gun education is very very very important no matter what your state laws are. Kids need to be familiar with guns, know the real damage they can do, and know what to do if they encounter a gun. When I first moved here and took my kids (baby and a toddler at the time) to their new pediatrician he handed me a flyer for gun safety classes for kids. I was blown away at first, I was very anti-gun at the time...but over the years it has made sense to me that they are familiar and know the rules. Firearm safety is very important! How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
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Tali User ID: 1016393 United States 07/25/2010 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's awesome. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyThis is the time Zonies to get your kids in gun classes. Gun education is very very very important no matter what your state laws are. Kids need to be familiar with guns, know the real damage they can do, and know what to do if they encounter a gun. When I first moved here and took my kids (baby and a toddler at the time) to their new pediatrician he handed me a flyer for gun safety classes for kids. I was blown away at first, I was very anti-gun at the time...but over the years it has made sense to me that they are familiar and know the rules. Firearm safety is very important! Yes it is...my cousin lost her little boy when he was shot by his best friend on accident when they were little. I think education might have prevented this...plus locking up your guns as well. After that happened I figured it's best kids know rather than not know because they can run into situations outside of our control. Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047186 United States 07/25/2010 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's awesome. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyThis is the time Zonies to get your kids in gun classes. Gun education is very very very important no matter what your state laws are. Kids need to be familiar with guns, know the real damage they can do, and know what to do if they encounter a gun. When I first moved here and took my kids (baby and a toddler at the time) to their new pediatrician he handed me a flyer for gun safety classes for kids. I was blown away at first, I was very anti-gun at the time...but over the years it has made sense to me that they are familiar and know the rules. Firearm safety is very important! I agree (for a change)! Highly important. Professional training is a must. Not only will it improve your chances of surviving a violent encounter, it will embed the general safety protocols into your habits. |
Tali User ID: 1016393 United States 07/25/2010 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
alright! User ID: 1045203 United States 07/25/2010 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1022337 Jan Brewer for President... 2010 and a half! |
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Tali User ID: 1016393 United States 07/25/2010 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also have to say... I didn't like Brewer at first but that woman is inspirational to me now in the midst of all this BS we have going on. She's giving us our own protection come hell or high water. That's freedom baby. Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette |
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