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Thanks Daughter for your respponses -- I am certainly going to get some Korean Ginseng....Amhaving trouble with my Computer but will be back on-line tomorrow I hope -- currently using my sister computer.... s
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Well am all set up with a new computer... some initial hiccoughs but its great to have a faster and modern desk-top. I have had sooo many laptops ... Nothing much to add re Thyroid issues.. am still waiting for the BOOK!!
Had a scare, day before yesterday - an old friend told me that his feet were numb.. This is a man who is a fitness nut-- swims every day -plays tennis does not drink alcohol or smoke... very particular about his diet --- He also seemed a bit unsteady on his feet... and his eyes seemed somewhat unfocussed... I googled numb feet and was shocked to learn that this can be a first sign of M.S. I had asked him whether he had checked his Doctor re Diabetes -- He was quick to tell me that no, he is not diabetic....
Oh Boy! Hopefully it is nothing serious... maybe pinched nerves...
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Oh Joy -- Just had my posting privileges re instated... Its been a long ban...

Well the book arrived.. Overcoming Thyroid Disorders by David Brownstein, M.D.

The link between Fibromyalgia nad thyroid upsets was very interesting.

Also there was confirmation of many posts by informed people that soy is a no no.. artificial sweeteners are a no no ..low levels of T3 should be checked...drugs,illness,trauma,aging etc can block the conversion ofT4 to T3- HE RECOMMENDS therapeutic doses of desiccated thyroid hormone-

As i would be classed as an old ager was particularly interested when he claims that some researchers believe that the decrease in conversion of T4 TO T3 occurs more commonly in the elderly because of mineral deficiency , including selenium.....

More to come......
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Some more info extracted from "Overcoming Thyroid Disorders" second edition by David Brownstein M.D. ---
WHY DONT MOST DOCTORS PRESCRIBE DESICCATED THYROID?

" This section will deal eith the question of why most physicians are reluctant to prescribe dessicated thyroid when there is a hyperthyroid condition. One of the first things I learned in medical school was to use only levothyroxine sodium products (i.e., Synthroid, Levothroid, etc.) for treating thyroid problems. I was told that these products were the "newest" amd the "best" products on the market. Furthermore, I was told that desiccated thyroid hormone, like Armour Thyroid, was not consistent from dose to dose. In other words, each 30mg dose of Armour Thyroid may or may not contain 30mg of Armour Thyroid.

I have not found a consistency problem with disiccated thyroid products. Because of the T4 conversion problem a thyroid product that enhances the conversion of inactive (T4) TO ACTIVE (T3) thyroid hormone is bound to have a greater efficacy.In my experience, desiccated thyroid does have a more superior therapeutic effect than levothyroxine sodium products."

So there you have it - from the mouth of a practising M.D working in the field of Thyroid disorders...

I have a Drs appointment Friday morning -- to check the thyroid readings, as they are a all over the place at present - will be taking the book along...
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What did we find out for Grave's disease folks? I got my thyroid nuked too...
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I would love to find a non-prescription alternative to Synthroid.
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Me too......
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Some more info extracted from "Overcoming Thyroid Disorders" second edition by David Brownstein M.D. ---
WHY DONT MOST DOCTORS PRESCRIBE DESICCATED THYROID?

" This section will deal eith the question of why most physicians are reluctant to prescribe dessicated thyroid when there is a hyperthyroid condition. One of the first things I learned in medical school was to use only levothyroxine sodium products (i.e., Synthroid, Levothroid, etc.) for treating thyroid problems. I was told that these products were the "newest" amd the "best" products on the market. Furthermore, I was told that desiccated thyroid hormone, like Armour Thyroid, was not consistent from dose to dose. In other words, each 30mg dose of Armour Thyroid may or may not contain 30mg of Armour Thyroid.

I have not found a consistency problem with disiccated thyroid products. Because of the T4 conversion problem a thyroid product that enhances the conversion of inactive (T4) TO ACTIVE (T3) thyroid hormone is bound to have a greater efficacy.In my experience, desiccated thyroid does have a more superior therapeutic effect than levothyroxine sodium products."

So there you have it - from the mouth of a practising M.D working in the field of Thyroid disorders...

I have a Drs appointment Friday morning -- to check the thyroid readings, as they are a all over the place at present - will be taking the book along...
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Be sure and let us know what transpires!! I was never able to get very good results with Armour even after 2 years and several dose changes :(
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Well folks - had my Drs appointment yesterday and actually my FT4 and TSH readings are within accepted replacement levels -- so it looks like Dr McGuire has found the right dosage ...for me, but of course I am still on medication... the aim of this thread was to try and find alternative remedies. Have spoken to Health food practitioners and we dont have Armour dessicated thyroid here in West Australia... I also asked the Dr why Drs dont test FT3 - He told me that he has read lots of research about this and didnt see that it made that much difference. As well Medicare did not cover that test -- He said in some cases like pregnancy, it could be tested but costs money for the test.. We have a very good health scheme and I am covered by Medicare for all my Drs appointments and tests...so that was interesting to find that Medicare doesnt think it is important to run that test either.. All I can say is I feel quite O.K. and I suppose that is the bottom line...

He did tell me to get Iodine supplements and I have the iodinised salt .. so that is covered..

BUT HERE IS SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING I DISCOVERED TALKING TO AN INDIAN PHARMACIST ..

He was talking to me about my diet -- we digressed onto other topics and I brought up the thyroid problem.. I said I was interested in natural remedies - he said he knew of a guy who was practising breathing where you close one nostril. and breathe in deeply - hold and exhale through the mouth - do this four times and then block other nostril and repeat -- He was exhuberant when he discovered his thyroid was working correctly again...

I asked - "how whould he know that - he must have gone off his medication to learn that?" Pharmacist advised not to go off medication and didnt really answer my question... But if at some stage we had a breakdown of available medicines at least that would be something I would definitly try.....
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Watched a fascinating documentary the other night about telemetes and telemason -- A Tasmanian woman - Professor Elizabeth Blackburn - discovered an enzyme that grows back the telemetes that are attached to the ends of our DNA This enzyme called Telamase grows back the telemetes which have shortened and completely vanished and caused aging and age induced diseases such as arthritis, diabetes, and many other ailments. The cell with a long telemete just keeps reproducing and never dies and so we would experience immortality. I asked my sister would you want to live for ever? Especially here... She answered what would happen when the population just grew and grew... something to think about eh wot??????
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Sorry - that should read as telomeres and telomarese is the name of the enzyme.... I should add that they have been able to do this in a petrie dish but havent yet found a way to do this in the human body,,,--- There is another problem too and that is cancer cells would also keep reproducing and so that is something that needs a lot of thought... The Tasmanian Professor (woman microbiologist) now lives in U.S.A and there are many working together on the project...
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For the poster inquiring about Thyroid Replacement Options. This from Dr. Brownsteins book.

Angela, age 25, was taking Armour Thyroid (half a grain/day) for Hashimoto's disease and hypothyroidism. Although she felt better on the thyroid medication, she still had complaints of aches and pains as well as fatigue. Upon changing her thyroid medication to Nature-Throid (half grain/day), all of her symptoms improved within one week. "I knew I did not feel 100% on the Armour thyroid, but I was better. It took seven days before the Nature-Thyroid kicked in. I woke up one day and all my aching and fatigue was gone. I couldn't believe it," she said.

Armour Thyroid and Nature-Throid are both desiccated porcine thyroid medications. The only differance between the two medications is the filler content. Armour Thyroid has cornstarch in it while Nature-Throid does not.

He goes on to say that sometimes just changing the brand of a medication makes all the difference.

Hope that helps someone.....
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For the poster inquiring about Thyroid Replacement Options. This from Dr. Brownsteins book.

Angela, age 25, was taking Armour Thyroid (half a grain/day) for Hashimoto's disease and hypothyroidism. Although she felt better on the thyroid medication, she still had complaints of aches and pains as well as fatigue. Upon changing her thyroid medication to Nature-Throid (half grain/day), all of her symptoms improved within one week. "I knew I did not feel 100% on the Armour thyroid, but I was better. It took seven days before the Nature-Thyroid kicked in. I woke up one day and all my aching and fatigue was gone. I couldn't believe it," she said.

Armour Thyroid and Nature-Throid are both desiccated porcine thyroid medications. The only differance between the two medications is the filler content. Armour Thyroid has cornstarch in it while Nature-Throid does not.

He goes on to say that sometimes just changing the brand of a medication makes all the difference.

Hope that helps someone.....
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I have hashimoto's.... and I am allergic to pork. Armour helped for a while until the allergy kicked in. Levothyroxine seems to be the best. I barely experience the issues when I am eating well and am thin. When I don't eat well, put on weight, the thyroid is worse. Now trying to take off weight again hoping that will make a difference.
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Honestly I think you are right... I do feel better when I am thinner.. Because of the Diabetes (2) I lost two stone and felt wonderful - sugar readings were lower... but I dont know if the thyroid worked any better as I was on medication at the time... Its a conundrum -- but eating right and losing weight are really a big factor in all of this... Have cut artificial sweeteners out of my drinks now ...
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Watched a fascinating documentary the other night about telemetes and telemason -- A Tasmanian woman - Professor Elizabeth Blackburn - discovered an enzyme that grows back the telemetes that are attached to the ends of our DNA This enzyme called Telamase grows back the telemetes which have shortened and completely vanished and caused aging and age induced diseases such as arthritis, diabetes, and many other ailments. The cell with a long telemete just keeps reproducing and never dies and so we would experience immortality. I asked my sister would you want to live for ever? Especially here... She answered what would happen when the population just grew and grew... something to think about eh wot??????
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It is inevitable my love...that space, out there; is where we will go. To be with our universal family...forever.

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Watched a fascinating documentary the other night about telemetes and telemason -- A Tasmanian woman - Professor Elizabeth Blackburn - discovered an enzyme that grows back the telemetes that are attached to the ends of our DNA This enzyme called Telamase grows back the telemetes which have shortened and completely vanished and caused aging and age induced diseases such as arthritis, diabetes, and many other ailments. The cell with a long telemete just keeps reproducing and never dies and so we would experience immortality. I asked my sister would you want to live for ever? Especially here... She answered what would happen when the population just grew and grew... something to think about eh wot??????

It is inevitable my love...that space, out there; is where we will go. To be with our universal family...forever.

LEGION
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Really like that... Yes I am a believer in a dimensional shift ... but that is another thread...
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If anyone is interested in reading a book I wrote called SHIFT HAPPENS by Bea Campbell It is available on Amazon and Smashwords.com as an e-book -- Practically costs nothing but tells about an Australian family all holidaying in the south-west on a vineyard when the three days of darkness takes place.. It tells how they cope with no electricity or batteries.. - all cars have stopped -- it is dark and cold.. It is a testament to the spirit of man that the family does not give in to FEAR.They soldier on and thankfully the farm has many of the old time appliances such as a wood stove and a wood heater to heat water etc. a pantry with some tinned food and a couple of bikes in the shed. As the saying goes - - Where there there's a will theres a way.
The story is actually based around my family.
There is quite a bit of metaphysics in it as I have been a long time student of this. However I wrote it in an easy to read converstional kind of way to try and get West Aussies thinking and prepared... The usual sayings over here are "She'll be right mate." - or the more usual one -'no worries mate!' Live for the day is the motto and there is nothing wrong with that... but I have a strong feeling its all going to change very soon... Just sayin......
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Hi to all the readers.. anyone like to post something?

Topics for discussion-- Vegetarianism versus some meat eaTING?
Vegans - what are the benefits of this eating style?
Does too much radiation from computers affect the thyroid?
Who uses the radiation blocker?
Does stress release practices such as quiet times or meditative practices actually help to heal body malais?

For myself I have to have an environment of harmony.. That includes nice surroundings - indoors and out- have definite music preferences-keep free of stresssful relationships -

Choose your environment carefully - I believe it has a lot ot do with stress.

Tell us what you have found to help keep body healthy. Doesnt have to be too difficult - just little things...
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Just before I go off to help a friend setting up at a swap meet .. at 5.30 a.m - wanted to tell you that for a couple of days have only eaget fish with vegies and have had no aches and pains... Must have reduced the acid in body -- Diet has such a lot to do with how we feel..... Cheers
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Well readers.. had a lovely Xmas Day... I dont know, but Xmas Day, when I was small, meant candy cane , chocolates. and other sweets, mixed in with the usual array of toys, clothing, bikes books etc.. Lets face it - it is largely a a FUN day for the children.. However I notice now a days, very aware mothers do not approve of sweets or sugary deserts of any kind and so the sweets and candies are quickly confiscated and hidden away...

I watch the faces of the children and there is a a droopy look on the faces ...as the sweets are hurriedly gathered up.

I guess it is O.K. to now and then have a bit of a party and gorge on some sugar... especially at Xmas time...

I was in charge of the FRUIT PLATE and so the cherries, grapes, water melon - dew melon were a healthy substitute I suppose..

They do have plenty of sugar too - but fruit seems to be acceptable.

applause

Hope you all have a wonderful Xmas Day... We are now into Boxing Day over here... It is goig to be 38 today - hit 40 yesterday and we did not venture out.. Airconditioning makes it bearable.. Many Australians have Xmas on the Beach... Its a bit of a tradition...

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It would be nice if someone could add their experiences with natural ways to cure aches and pains etc....

Just read that ACV (apple cider vinegar) and honey or grapejuice (small amounts) taken every day cures just about everything... as well helps weight loss and fibromyalgia especially..

CAN ANYONE VERIFY THIS...

Apparently 1 tbs of ACV and 1 tbs of honey ( some say double that ) does miraculous things..
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Hello again folks.

I just want to report in on my recent experiments.

1. I ordered a bottle of Nutri-Meds Porcine Thyroid. This is non-prescription. Each capsule contains 130mg of raw porcine thyroid tissue. Just for good measure, I also ordered a bottle of their porcine adrenal. This stuff is expensive and, of course, not covered by insurance. I have been skipping days of the synthetic and replacing with anywhere from one to three capsules of the Nutri-Meds product. So far, I have not experienced any slipppage into chronic tiredness.

2. A little over three weeks ago I finally read the entire "High-fat, low-carb" diet thread posted by Scorpion which talks a lot about Metabolic Syndrome. I decided to try the diet, as it was not a great leap from the Paleo type diet I have been on for nearly 10 years.

I have been on the diet for 3 weeks tomorrow. I have noticed several benefits.

I am sleeping a lot better, with no insomnia.

My hands and feet, which have tended to be cold, are warmer, which is a blessing, as I work with my hands and I am outdoors a lot, even in the dead of winter. I can even hang out in the house, which we keep quite cool, without being all bundled up.

My rosacea, which usually flares up severly during winter, is almost invisible.

My scalp is not flaking off. My skin looks great. No dry patches.

I have loads of energy and lately have even felt like exercising, over and above my 8 hour days of physical labor. This is an urge I have not had in years.

Overall, right now, I can honestly say that I am feeling the best I have in the last 15 years. I am not advocating anything, merely reporting. Everyone is different.

At this point, I would say that the diet is a huge contributing factor to my feeling better. As far as the animal derived non-prescription vs.the prescription synthetic, I cannot really say if one is better than the other. I can say that I feel no worse, even on only one capsule a day of the porcine.

I also discovered that coconut oil is being used to help people with hypothyroidism. And, though I had been adding coconut oil to my diet non-systematically for over a year, the high-fat diet has me using quite a bit more on a daily basis.

Signing off.
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It would be nice if someone could add their experiences with natural ways to cure aches and pains etc....

Just read that ACV (apple cider vinegar) and honey or grapejuice (small amounts) taken every day cures just about everything... as well helps weight loss and fibromyalgia especially..

CAN ANYONE VERIFY THIS...

Apparently 1 tbs of ACV and 1 tbs of honey ( some say double that ) does miraculous things..
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Because of the high-fat low carb diet I am trying, I have been avoiding honey. Honey is sugar. For people who are overloaded on carbs, possibly experiencing pre-diabetic conditions, or in Type II diabetes, the extra sugar cannot be a good thing. According to one link I followed up on in the high-fat diet thread, a teaspoon of honey will suppress your immune system for 5 hours.

Interestingly, the founder of this high-fat diet, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, who runs two clinics in Poland and has two million people following his regime, claims he has an 80% cure rate of Type I diabetes. Pretty astounding, if true, given that allopathic doctors tell us that diabetes cannot be cured and that you will be on insulin for the rest of your life, at great expense and inconvenience to the afflicted, and to the great profit of the medical and pharmaceutical establishment.
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No - It is quite a bit nore complicated than diet-- i HAVE BEEN CHECKING THIS OUT WITH PHARMACISTS... There is the iodine thing but that is not all - in an emergency seaweed (not all tho) can relpace this - fish etc. but there are other components..
I will google it again--just wondered if anyone had ideas..

I do believe that too much estrogen can upset the thyroid..
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please......with the SEAWEED bs.
all the damN seaweed does IS give a form of iodide.

get a bottle of LUGOL'S while you still can
and get iosol etc.

detox
and start with the iodine and decrease the thyroxin/levoxyl whichever POS pharmaceutical you're taking.

there's a couple of good COMMON SENSE boards out there on iodine.

the thyroid "supplements" are 100% CRAP,proven to have POOR QUALITY CONTROL
and have you going uuuuP and down physically.

some also swear by coconut oil.

and as always------common sense,rest,good diet etc.
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It would be nice if someone could add their experiences with natural ways to cure aches and pains etc....

Just read that ACV (apple cider vinegar) and honey or grapejuice (small amounts) taken every day cures just about everything... as well helps weight loss and fibromyalgia especially..

CAN ANYONE VERIFY THIS...

Apparently 1 tbs of ACV and 1 tbs of honey ( some say double that ) does miraculous things..



Because of the high-fat low carb diet I am trying, I have been avoiding honey. Honey is sugar. For people who are overloaded on carbs, possibly experiencing pre-diabetic conditions, or in Type II diabetes, the extra sugar cannot be a good thing. According to one link I followed up on in the high-fat diet thread, a teaspoon of honey will suppress your immune system for 5 hours.

Interestingly, the founder of this high-fat diet, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, who runs two clinics in Poland and has two million people following his regime, claims he has an 80% cure rate of Type I diabetes. Pretty astounding, if true, given that allopathic doctors tell us that diabetes cannot be cured and that you will be on insulin for the rest of your life, at great expense and inconvenience to the afflicted, and to the great profit of the medical and pharmaceutical establishment.
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honey does not suppress your immune system it boosts it
and is a powerful curative agent as it degrades into a form of hydrogen peroxide which stimulates your immune system
and yes it is a form of sugar---- A FORM of it with different properties than glucose,sucrose,etc.

check out manuka honey and other HIGH forms of it.
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PS----apple cider vinegar does many GOOD things
same as FOOD GRADE hydrogen peroxide
manuka honey
torula yeast
etc

check out natural cures via a google search
and
www.watercure2.org

for something as simple yet powerful as water and salt.
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One tablespoon of honey:

Carbohydrates
Amounts Per Selected Serving %DV
Total Carbohydrate
17.3g 6%

Dietary Fiber
0.0g 0%

Starch
~
Sugars
17.2g

Sucrose
187mg

Glucose
7506mg

Fructose
8596mg

Lactose
~
Maltose
302mg

Galactose
651mg

[link to nutritiondata.self.com]

That's a lot of sugar for someone struggling with any form of diabetes.
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I Looove Yu Americans!!! When the call goes out for some input it comes a flooding in...

Honey -- I'm torn... I remember watching a doco on an old African man (really elderly ) and his son and grandson, who would go out into the bush searching for wild honey -- The old fellow was passing on his skills as to how to rob a hive. They practicaly lived on the honey... it seemed.. I was struck by how the elderly gent was so lithe - beautiful smooth skin and peaceful demeanour... Their diet was simple and he was living proof that the honey hadnt given him diabetes!! Just sayin -- I am type 2 diabetic and have to watch sugar intake all the time....
Have cut out sweeteners --- just use a half a teaspoon of sugar now...

Hmmm!! Coconut oil eh?? Will look it up - havent heard of that...

I am probably going to try the ACV and honey thing - You do take it with warm water... I wasnt aware that honey suppresses your immune system... I try to keep the pill popping simple... All I am taking at present is a cholesterol pill. (very low strength) and the thyroxin medication... The other tablets are a multi vitamin, horseradish and garlic and vitamin c combo for sinus complaint and 1000 IU Vitamin D ....

I was told once that garlic is actually a poison to the system... but as someone said previously everyone is different in their make-up .. The garlic works for me....
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Have been doing some research (google) on ACV and honey and some things I have learned are that 1. honey enhances the healing power of the vinegar and the mixture is called HONEGAR 2. the concoction helps to lower glucose levels
3. it alkalises the blood..

They latest is that it is probably better to use only 2 tsps of vinegar and DILUTE IN A LARGE GLASS OF WATER AND SIP DURING THE DAY.

I have started the remedy anyway yesterday ... I'll be the guinea pig.. Keep you informed....
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Well.. surprise -- Sugar reading this a.m. was 6.2 - now that is quite incredible as it has been reading 7 and 7.2 for a few days.. and I was sure it was going to be much higher as I ate a piece of bread and honey late last night... Did what was recommended and sipped ACV and honey throughout the day.. so after day 1 there was a surprising result.. Will keep the remedy going and report back...
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Re: REPLACING MEDICINES WITH NATURAL REMEDIES START WITH THYROXIN!!!!
here is another good thread on they thyroid

Thread: If you eat Eggs or Chicken, you could be DESTROYING your Thyroid Gland, the Master Gland in the body

says to stay away from soy products
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I don't know man.. I never heard of anyone running out of thyroid medication and dying.. I have a sneaky suspicion that people don't really need it.. I don't use and have never used prescription drugs or medicine.. I'm 59.. how come?

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