REPLACING MEDICINES WITH NATURAL REMEDIES START WITH THYROXIN!!!!

Will be studying the new book tomorrow and will post more relevant info then Cheers everyone....

I just found out something astounding about the blood pressure situation. If you eat diamacetious earth, I spelled it incorrectly you can control your blood pressure and blood fats. You have to get food grade, give it to your animals and yourself. Lots of instructions on the internet. It helps with a lot of stuff.

Another thing is coconut oil. For years I avoided coconut because of saturated fat. Now, the good news is that its the best stuff there is for so many things.. drawback, its expensive. Alot of videos on you tube about this.

Hmmm Hoppy -- That seems quite incredible.. Would you be willing to give it a try?? I dont think I could stomach it (no pun intended)

O.K. It seems, after reading some of the book this morning, everything I thought I was doing right I am not doing right...!!!!!!!!

The author states that the BRASSICA FAMILY - that is cabbage,cauliflower, brussel sprouts,broccoli, bok choy - decrease thyroid function by inhibiting the iodine uptake... Also they contain sulfer compounds that hinder thyroid synthesis... He does say to just reduce these in the diet..

He recommends taking Selenium, Vit D, Vit A, Vit C, Vit E, and zinc...and Bromelan (enzymes) Dont know what they are..

Take a multi vitamin tablet (one a day) Selenium - 200mcg a day -Tyrosine - 400-6000mg a day

I do take a Vit D3 1000 IU which has boron and selenium in it.

Always consult your Dr by the way -- this is just a discussion thread and we're just trying to get back to a more wholistic approach to this endocrine imbalance..

I dont think vitamins can do any harm ... But once again - a balanced diet should provide all the vitamins we need..

He has put in som very interesting recipes -- will copy one or two for you -- quoting his book and his name of course....

Thanks for highlighting those last two posts Australia... in particular the last one... It was an excellent post and there was a lot of info there....I feel O.k. at present -- just taking one small pill - but i must get my T3 level tested.... cheers...

HERE IS ONE RECIPE AS PROMISED TAKEN FROM THE ALKALINE COOKBOOK by late chiropractor Dr Anne GUILLET...
Her recipes are the result of years of taking food and turning it into medicine...
Buckwheat Crepes..with honey...

1. 1 cup of buckwheat flour.
2. 2 eggs
3. 1 Tblespoon of Celtic Salt
4. Half a litre of water
5. 3 Tblespoons of olive oil

In mixer - add all ingredients for 1 minute. or can just hand mix vigourously(flour, eggs, salt and oil)
Slowly add water Mix quickly for 3 minutes
Let stand for 2 hours with cloth over top of bowl.
Oil pan and flip both sides of your crepes when pan is hot
Serve with honey.

There is an other recipe coming where you use the Buckwheat recipe and roll asparagus lightly steamed inside and pour over a hollendaise sauce. Delicious .. Will put up the recipe for the sauce soon.....

About a year ago I saw a story on the news that linked people who have had a lot of x-rays of the head and neck were coming up with thyroid cancer a lot more often than other people. Also saw a documentary about thyroid cancer being rampant in the Ukraine as well due to Chernobyl.

Personally, I believe that the upsurge in Thyroid problems, is due to food additives....AND SOY....look at your labels...wonder what they used before soy became the wonder ingredient for everything..soy blocks the thyroid hormone...both my son and I ended up on thyroid medications after dieting and drinking protein drinks that contained SOY...that's not the only thing...they talk about the Asians using soy beans in their ancient cultures....uh huh...but...I bet 80% of the soy beans they used were not GENETICALLY MODIFIED...like they are now...

Yes he does say that soy is a no- no.. It definitely does inhibit the thyroid...

Well -- I cant recall at the moment poster whether he says anything about cooking vegies slightly.. He does recommend not cooking in plastic dishes as in microwwaving and also warns against using that microwave plastic wrap tocover.

Will look it up for you.

Vitamins, minerals, amino acids, -- produce, enhance and aid, thyroid hormones.


Copper Vit..B2
Iodine Vit. B3
Manganese Vit. B6
Selenium Vit B12
Tyrosine Vit. C
Vit. E

Copper Selenium and zinc are necesssry for the iodothyronime iodinose enzyme to convert T4 into T3

These are some of the foods he recommends.. tomato paste, almonds, cashews, olives, beef, mushrooms, chocolate, legumes, liver, shellfish, oysters,

In the old days when you got thyroid tests they would test for both t3 and t4. Now they only test one. That is how when I was put on armourthyroid they didn't catch that I was 1000x overdosed on the precurser for a year.It was awful. Don't do it.
I don't use synthroid either because it has talc in it-just cheap generic without talc. I have been able to use less over the years but you better be very careful and get tested a lot. Switching back to iodized salt was surprisingly helpful.

Yes radiation even from computers will have serious effects on the thyroid...

+1

and:

[link to www.herbs2000.com]

Alternately a high cholesterol level is another good indication of impaired thyroid performance, high levels of circulating carotenes and a low vitamin A level can also indicate hypothyroidism. The vitamin A or retinal is manufactured from carotenes in the body under the action of thyroid hormones and once low levels of thyroid hormones are present, carotenes go unused and low levels of the vitamin A result. Low cholesterol levels in the diet are another important measure to aid in the fight against an under functioning thyroid gland.
Usual dosage

* Kelp, one tbsp.
* Vitamin A, 25,000 IU. Avoid during pregnancy.
* Vitamin B complex, 100 mg
* Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate, 50 mg or vitamin B6, 100 mg
* Vitamin C with bioflavonoids, 1,000 mg
* Vitamin E, with mixed tocopherols, 400 IU
* L-tyrosine, 200 mg
* L-tryptophan, 100 mg
* 3 mg copper with 15mg zinc

Other beneficial herbs

* Horseradish

oops, posted too soon. I meant to include this too:


All the thyroid hormones essential to a functioning metabolism in the human body are derivatives of the essential mineral Iodine, which is a very important constituent of the final thyroid hormone. Using supplements of the seaweed kelp, which are extremely abundant in iodine, these seaweeds hence make excellent dietary sources for the mineral. The proper assimilation of the mineral iodine in the body requires the presence of the vitamin E, and the diet should also include this vitamin in addition to the iodine. The vitamins A and C and all the vitamins of the B complex are required as constituents in the manufacture of thyroid hormones and must be used as dietary supplements. The normal functioning of the thyroid gland is also promoted by many of the essential fatty acids, and these must also be included in the diet.

Many essential minerals such as zinc, vitamins like the vitamin B6, amino acids like tyrosine and the mineral iodine can be used as an alternative to the direct supplement of thyroid hormone in cases of hypothyroidism, however supplements of the thyroid hormone-also called L-thyroxin, is sometimes preferred and become necessary especially where these supplements fail to treat the disorder. A glandular extract of the thyroids with trace amounts of the L-thyroxin are manufactured and sold by some pharmaceutical companies as supplements for hypothyroidism. These glandular extract with zero or low levels of the L-thyroxin may in some cases work equally well compared to the tablets of pure thyroid hormone used as a supplement. The need to use this remedy and the suitability of its utilization in an individual patient must be suggested and prescribed by a homeopathic doctor.

LOL1! I posted before I read everything, too. Didn't get past Armour thyroid either before I wanted to warn people. You are the only other person I have heard of having that problem.

great thread :)

Yes have to agree-- the thread is interesting particularly to those who are seeking a way to get off tablets!!

ALMONDS Now here is a food that is really catching on in West Australia........

Here is the low down on this NUT...

Experts have found that adding natural foods such as ALMONDS
to yout diet, may be the prescription for physical wellness in the 21st century.

Cancer prevention.... Almonds are lower in saturated fats and contain many other protective nutrients such as calcium and magnesium for strong bones and teeth.. They also contain vitamin E ... AND COMPOUNDS CALLED PHYTOCHEMICALS
which may help protect against cardiovascular disease and even cancer........In fact almonds contain a huge diversity of PHYTOCHEMICALS in a single food source.

One ounce of almonds contains 20% of YOUR daily allowance of PROTEIN... 35% OF your daily allowance of Vit E...

Also the nut is loaded with minerals like - magnesium, phosphorus, zinc. Calcium, and folic acid are in there too..... We in our famly are eating a handful a day...

cheers

Armour Thyroid (pig thyroid) ,,Canada still makes it.

We have to think diet - if we want to get the thyroid functioning in a healthy way...

So far I can see that a multi vitamin is probably well worth considering at this time, as it will give you many minerals missing in food. We in Australia are lacking zinc as our soils lack it ....A MULTI VITAMIN CONTAINS the following - VITAMIN Bs -VIT A -VIT E - CALCIUM - FOLIC ACID
MAGNESIUM, -COPPER - CHROMIUM - ZINC - IODINE -POTASSIUM-
PHOSPHERUS - SELENIUM - AND SOME OTHERS.....

However from what I have learned so far - a natural routine of eggs for breakfast - egg whites important- on a grain bread -vit e - some fried red capsicum (red pepper) Vit c -- or maybe a cup of oats with small amount of milk, and selenium sprinkled on top --- a banana - for pottasium and some green tea.. might be a good way to start the day -- salt with iodised salt.... Then for mid morning snack - a buckwheat crepe with some honey -- and some juiced apples or other fruit.. A juicer is a good piece of equipment to have... Vegetable and fruit juices are very beneficial - if you are diabetic however fruit is very high in sugar and it is probably better to concentrate on vegetable juicing....
Lunch might be a salad with salmon - or tuna - asparagus and beans or a vegetable sandwich .. some thin slices of chicken breast - low fat mayonaise - salt with iodinised salt and pepper - delicious... Dinner - Have a steak (no fat) if vegetarian experiment with nut meat or meatless stews - can be very tasty too.....Lots of beans - some cauliflower florets But remember we have been advised to cut down on cauliflower, cabbage, broccoli etc as these contain sulpher and inhibit the thyroid somewhat......
Look for foods that have the vitamins and minerals that are listed ina good multi vitamin tables -- I know we are trying to substitute pills for natural foods but it does take time and experimenting...

ANY IDEAS ON A GOOD BALANCED DIET ARE WELCOME FROM POSTERS OUT THERE...

CHEERS

Hi 6p - Hashimoto's here. Found this interesting

Emotional Suppression


When we suppress our enthusiasm and creativity, we tend to shut down the pineal gland. (Dr. Ray once stated that a typical child in today's society has a crystallized pineal gland by age 6.) Suppression of enthusiasm pushes us down scale to the emotional tone of pain and an impeded pituitary function. At this level we have resistance to experience life and to feel. One can easily surmise how the impeded function of the pineal-hypothalamus-pituitary triad then cascades down through the rest of the neurological / endocrine system.

At the thyroid level and the seat of the emotional tone of anger, we have a condition where a we shift from being responsible co-creators to feeling victims of life. Here we place blame on others, lash out overtly or covertly through spite. Suppressed anger impedes the thyroid's function of metabolism, which in turn creates arthritic and obesity problems. Suppressed anger distorts our capacity to communicate openly and effectively.

Suppression of anger pushes us down to the emotional tone of fear, which resonates at the Heart Chakra / thymus endocrine gland. Here we become defensive and afraid of every thing and lose our capacity to have unconditional love and compassion. Fear creates a closed heart chakra. Here we pass judgment on and invalidate others and on life as a way to defend and validate our fear. The thymus is directly reflexed to the spleen, both of which control our immune response. Thus we can see that fear is the emotional tone behind all immune related disorders, allergies, etc.

Suppression of fear pushes us down through the resonances of propitiation and sympathy to the emotional tone of grief and guilt resonating at the solar plexus. Propitiation is where we find those with the puppy dog look, generally holding the thought pattern of "oh poor me." Here we seek sympathy from others. To get pulled into a sympathetic resonance with others, only supports a person to at stay in the "oh poor me" pattern, a mutually dysfunctional level that perpetuates a person's neediness / and those who feed it through sympathy due to their own feelings of grief / guilt / unworthiness--to be needed. (Sympathy is not be confused with empathy.) Reinforcing this level creates horizontal cords of material attachment via the solar plexus.

The Solar Plexus, resonating at the emotional tone of grief, is literally our second brain center. This neurological system controls the enteric nervous system / vascular and visceral function, adrenal function & kidneys; also with tie-ins to the pelvis, uterus, womb. This is where we feel unworthy and create conditions of lack and bareness. We become unable to give and receive freely, and feel the need to store up things in our lives and in our bodies to fill our sense of lack. Note also that the kidneys (as revealed in Chinese medicine) are where we store the Chi (life force) that we were born with; and the adrenals govern our capacity to physically respond to life, to use our Chi.

Suppression of grief brings us down to apathy and the splenic chakra. This chakra can be thought of as a rotating gyroscopic system that keeps us in balance. its function determines the balance between the liver and spleen, our male-female balance. It is the chakra of interpersonal relationships. Here are where we find our relationship issues and any inferiority / superiority complexes. Perpetuating this resonance establishes horizontal cords of attachment in relationships where two parties oscillate in a cycle of invalidation / validation. After playing this cat and mouse game adn geeting burnt out, a person usually sinks simply to a thought patterns of "I don't care."

Suppression of apathy brings us down to the level of unconsciousness. Here we are simply unaware and go through life without much thought about anything. We lose our vitality and our power to act and become fully dependent on others and the "the system" in order for us to live. Suppression at this level causes sexual related problems, both physically and emotionally. Further suppression leads to a catatonic state of degeneration and eventually death.
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Hi EM -- Thanks for your very educational post... I have suspected that there was an underlying emotional problem with this thyroid malfunction...Didnt realise it was that deep --- I have acknowledged that stifling myself in situations where someone is very forceful and overbearing is a mode of behaviour I easily slip into....And yes FEAR is the underlying problem - I cant abide conflict or being hurt in an argument so I dont compete.. just stifle... The endocrine system is a fascinating study -- I must re read your post -- didnt know you had Hishomotos (?) spelling ?

talking with an old fiend last night -- she revealed that her thyroid gave out when she was 40 - she is now 84 and has been taking thyroid medicine for around 40 years .....i was blown away ... i told her about the thread and she told me not to try and sort it out myself -- too dangerous.... any comments.....

You need to work with a doctor who is open to experimentation. You still need to have the testing to see how things are going. What we are contemplating is a SHTF scenario where prescription supplements become unavailable.

oh boy !!! an old fiend ... nothing further from the truth - Jo is one of best FRIENDS.... yes that is why i began this thread -- if and when tshtf we are going to WANT TO KNOW SOME ALTERNATIVES ...thanks for reminding me..


This morning read that iodine and iodide with sellenium should be all that is necessary for most thyroid sufferers... cheers

Well guys I guess we are all talked out here --- When I have a talk to my Dr --- and have a few more test done -- I will start up again but in the meantime Im finishing here --- Thanks for your contributions....