REPLACING MEDICINES WITH NATURAL REMEDIES START WITH THYROXIN!!!!

Thanks Canada - for your input... Even though not many post here - the ratings for those that read are fairly high and so I keep the thread going....

Just looked up Earth Clinic suggested by a poster and WOW!! so much from people on their experiences with Virgin Coconut Oil..... Must check this out...

Also for heart fluctuations - MAGNESIUM -- Seems to be a good relaxer - you get a good nights sleep from taking this as well...

Hmmm VCO - had not heard of this before.....

Google ZEOLITE --- Detoxifies body of many poisins.. such as Mercury, Lead and Radiation.... Apparently very effective... Dont take my word - Look it up.....

I followed up on the posters tip to google Virgin Coconut Oil... and be amazed at the health benefits..

Wow! I WAS amazed!!
C.O (coconut oil) increases the body's metabolism and causes the body to burn more energy (fat).

C.O. is the best source of lauric acid

LAURIC ACID has many wonderful properties.-- anti-bacterial, anti viral functions.

Fats in C.O. enhance immune system.

Promotes Heart Health.

PROMOTES WEIGHT LOSS.

Is resistant to heat - it is therefore a hesalthier oil for cooking.

Promotes immune responses to yeast and fungal infections including CANDIDA.

AND WHAT IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO ME --- SUPPORTS NORMAL FUNCTIONING OF THE THYROID GLAND.

Ladies it also brings about smooth, skin and shiny hair.

Needless to say I am taking this now -- can use it on your salads - use it instead of butter or margarine.

1/4 lb. bacon sandwich on rye every morning. NPO of course.

Ha! Ha! ----- Nice to see someone is reading at least!!!

WELL I AM DAY 2 ON VIRGIN COCONUT OIL AND MY SINUSES ARE REALLY CLEARING... SO MAYBE IT IS STARTING TO WORK... IT HAS ANTI- BACTERIAL AND ANTI-VIRAL PROPERTIES.. WHAT A MIRACLE IF IT CLEARS MY SINUSES - HAVE SUFFFERED FOR YEARS WITH THIS MALADY...

Just wanted to tell you about a wonderful healer over here - Tom Mc Arthur. For 40 years he has been experimenting with the tropical fruit PAW-PAW . They do call him the PAW-PAW man...He and his wife have developed a cream from the juices of this plant - of course they have mixed it with other ingredients. All natural I might add. They have come up with this miraculous healing product. He has been featured on T.V twice this week -- Many of the people he has healed talked about him and his amazing cream It heals arthritic pain within a couple of seconds and arthritic clenched hands become unclenched ....a small child was cured of brain tumours - ulcers that wont heal are healed.. migraine headaches healed... etc. He says it is becsause the cream ingredient encourages blood flow and then the immune system kicks in.
He has been offered millions by BIG PHARMA to sell them the formula but he never gave in.. He has been treating people for a few years - never asked for money.. Now however he is trying to get it out to the public. The biggest miracle associated with this however is that an anonymous benefactor gave him a Paw -Paw farm with a processing plant on it. His Blog has been inundated with thousands of callers. The two big food chains over here - Coles and Woolworths- want his products and we will soon have them -- I think the product is called O-PAL - Will clarify that later....

Was supposed to post this here lol....





Hi 6p, I like the Reiki aspect of healing, every time someone has a headach or cut or sore, I always place my hands on the spot effected to heal, my partner says my hand get very hot, I went to a Reiki work shop once, the lady said she activated a level of Reiki within us, by doing some type of symbolic gestures with her hand above our heads(i couldnt see).

Deep down thou, I think these natural energy are availible to all, and can develope naturely over time.

Hi 6p, I like the Reiki aspect of healing, every time someone has a headach or cut or sore, I always place my hands on the spot effected to heal, my partner says my hand get very hot, I went to a Reiki work shop once, the lady said she activated a level of Reiki within us, by doing some type of symbolic gestures with her hand above our heads(i couldnt see).

Deep down thou, I think these natural energy are availible to all, and can develope naturely over time.

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Each person should have an iodine store in their whole body of 1500mg, iodine should be in every cell of your body. For women the highest concentrations are in your thyroid, breasts, uterus and ovaries, and pancreas. For men the highest concentrations are in the thyroid, prostate, and pancreas.

So what is a daily serving of iodine? The RDA states that you need at LEAST 150mcg or .15mg, however this is only to prevent extreme stupidity and goiter. The amount your body requires to function properly is at LEAST 12.5mg or 12,500mcg per DAY for adults. Wow what a big difference that is! The reason being that you need at least 5mg for your thyroid and women need 5mg for breasts while men need about 5mg for their prostate and 2.5mg for the rest of your body. Isn't that what Iodized salt is for? Just to reach the RDA you would need to consume 20 teaspoons of iodized salt per day! Unless you are or intend to eat lots of seaweed, sea veggies or seafood you will need an iodine supplement. Fortunately, there is one that gives you the optimal daily dose in one tablet, Iodoral.

You're probably thinking that it sounds like waaay too much iodine to be taking, what about iodine toxicity? First off, back in the early 1900's iodine was considered the universal cure, whatever your problem was you were first prescribed high doses of iodine
===snip=== from [link to theiodineproject.webs.com]

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The benefits of iodine in the body are far reaching. Oddly enough, it is the least understood of all the essential trace elements.

This is the safest of all the essential trace elements which can be administered in large amounts when in an inorganic nonradioactive form.

Iodine is stored throughout your entire body - the skin, teeth, nails, all the organs, and bones.

When you have the correct amount of iodine in your body, you are able to:

Maintain your energy level all day
Maintain your weight
Live without aches and pains
Maintain a cheerful and uplifted attitude
Have a clear memory
Able to tolerate cold
Have normal bowel movements;
Have full and shiny hair; and
Obtain restful night at sleep
Have normal skin and supple fingernails

====snip====
from [link to www.iodine-resource.com]


Me thinks you should double check your ass-u-mptions. btw i know several people who have thyroid issues, some with hashimoto's who've had their thyroid removed and now are utterly dependent tri-iodo-thyronine for the rest of their life, which is not so simple to dose and severely knocks them around daily, particularly in the aged. secondly the parathyroid is also removed in a thyrodectomy this produces parathyroid hormone which regulates calcium levels in the blood, which not only can cause severe calification which will put you in a wheel chair and then make you paraplegic all the while in extreme spastic pain as your spine calcifies cutting off the nerves (ironically the person im discussing hated stoners intensely her whole life and now would benefit from cannabis immensely).

others suffered from hypothyroidism but as it was not a lost cause entirely they chose to treat it by supporting their thyroid, in particular they take one or two drops of KI solution in a glass of water regularly, and find that this can greatly ameliorate their hypothyroidism. an option almost never proposed by doctors who like parasites have a conflict of interest with big pharma which makes a _tidy_ sum dispensing T3 to those convinced of the fraudulent "complete cure" they sell them on.

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Anyone have information re. fluoride in the water and its effect on the thyroid?/

Fluride is just another poison we injest thanks to TPTB....

Check out this GLP thread - extremely interesting and highly useful info!!!

Thread: IODINE - What they DON'T tell us about this MIRACLE nutrient! UNBELIEVABLE!

Yes I have been reading that thread for some time... Agree - lots of iformation....

Just read that Iodine does help to eliminate many toxins from the system -including fluoride...''

I am taking iodised salt on my food...

How do I know if I am taking enough?

4 ounces of cranberries contain approximately 44/mcg of iodine.

Yogurt and eggs are high in iodine

130 mcg of iodine daily ......

Had a thyroidectomy in early 1970's and have been doing very well once I switched to Symplex F and/or Symplex M, sold by Standard Process. Blood tests are incomplete. Taking morning temperature and graphing it is a real good indicator.

Well have some good news... I have been taking virgin coconut oil for a couple of weeks and I have regained my sense of smell... Because of sinusitis havent been able to smell for years.. Even tho I have taken horseradish and garlic which does dry the runny nose up - and also have to take some drugs at times I have never ever regained my smell.. Now strangely I smell.. What a delight to be able to smell the delicious foods and odours as you walk around.. It is a miracle...!!!!!!!!!

Just go and get some of that Virgin Coconut Oil... It truly is amazing!!! It does clear up your sinuses...

Im super pleased!!!!!

Watched a programm last night on SBS re studies made on various groups of people who live long lives. WHY was this?

One group was a Japanese group of people who average 100 and up years of age and what is more have led lives of REMARKABLE HEALTH...

The investigators have studied them for years -- It appears to be something related to what they eat.. and to the quantity of what they eat.

They eat mainly vegetables of the colured kind. Oramge and red vegies - dsrk green leafy vegetables etc. But also much TOFU - no meats.
But they also they dont eat much either. Only fill their stomachs 80 percent... This sort of starvation puts the body into a survival mode and a hormone from the adrenals HEA is released.... (That is not the correct name of the hormone - will look it u -- HE.. something maybe a reader will know....

Keep eating your broccoli -- Dr Oz says there are properties in that vegetable that help prevent colon cancer...

Did a search for that enzyme that is realeased when you starve the body a little bit.. Havnet found it yet .. But someone must remember this life prolonging substance .. It was procurable from internet sites... A miracle sunstance that kept you young. I will try to remember to get the name from my sister as she and her husband bought it when on a visit ot USA... cheers....

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Recently scientists found that the life-extending benefits of calorie restriction do not occur if the animal has been genetically altered to lack sirtuins, indicating that these enzymes are crucial to this process. Now scientists are coming to understand sirtuins' role in that life- extending response. In people, for example, they seem to halt the normal cellular cycle that ends with old cells committing suicide and instead help rejuvenate them by beefing up their DNA repair processes and stimulating production of protective antioxidants. "What we think is that if a cell is at a point of deciding whether to live or die, these sirtuins push toward the survival mode and let the cell try a little harder and longer to fix itself," said Sinclair, who has a financial stake in a new effort to develop sirtuin-related products with BIOMOL Research Laboratories of Plymouth Meeting, Pa. 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Sorry about all the added nonsensical info -- just thought the article on enzymes was quite important -- but made a big mistake and copied and pasted too much ... sooorreee...

My thyroid does not work...I tried to get off it with natural stuff, felt like I was dying in a little under a month...I exercise every other day, etc...any advice?

deathly allergic to coconut here...

Hi Seeker - I am the OP of this thread.. Sorry, the virgin Coconut Oil was not recommended for Thyroid problems... The thread is also trying to solve other health problems - I have sinus problems, arhritis problems and diabetes .. so the coconut oil has helped my sinus issue.. Im not allergic to coconut fortunately.

As far as the Thyroid problem goes, I do really suggest you see your physician. It is a really dangerous health issue and you should not play around with it... I was feeling so bad when I was in the last stages of thyroid shut down. I am taking meidication now and will have to for the rest of my life. But in the US there are many kinds of natural treatments but always refer back to your Doctor. By natural I dont mean herbs or other subsitutes for the tablets but synthetic treatmenst such as Synthroid etc. Read back over the thread. Many American posters offer alternatives..

I can relate, I take synthroid, my thyroid does not work.

O.K. as promised I contacted sister and the enzyme released by the adrenals is DHEA - The study on centurians living in Okinawa (Japan) is available on the web - scientific study of centurians in Okinawa.. The article does not however mention what I previously stated about this - but there is a video up which probably does. I think what I actually gained from watching the video on TV was that the diet of red and orange vegetables and dsrk green leafy vegies and no meat - tofu mainly - combined with exercise through working physcially combined with eating very little (only filling stomach about 80%)released this DHEA. Google DHEA and you will discover its properties ....

You can buy DHEA supplements but it is advised not to take them as there are side effects... DHEA should be gained naturally from the body orgams....

There was a bit about estrogen also and testosterone being higher in these elderly Okinawans...

It seems to me that this diet that they partake of is the KEY to their longevity.....

THE SEEKER ---- If you are not having any success with Synthroid I would have a talk to your Dr. I am on medication which is just replacing the hormone that the thyroid no longer produces - and I feel O.K. But it woud be good to find something that could replace the pills. Unfortunately we dont have many of the products you have over there in the USA. I guess you are the only one who can find something that is suitable for you - but do try and heal yourself as the thyroid when it shuts down can leads to heart failure and dementia. That is what a physician told me....

Although this thread was primarily about finding natural remedies for thyroid treatment it also is open for discussion on natural healing for anything.

I guess I have found virgin coconut oil to be very beneficial for me re sinuses but also taking garlic /horseradish has been excellent for drying up of nasal fluids...

I also believe that eating berries and certain vegetables provide anti-bodies to help deal with free radicals..

Spring water instead of tap water --

Nuts and grains

Fruit for vit C etc

Actually there are many ways to get off some medications that we buy from pharmacists....

Honey for sweeteners -

The Paw-paw man ovewr here in Australia has an ointment made from paw-paws that is just a miracle for those suffering arthritis and also sores and ulcers that wont heal..

Now yesterday I had a molar extracted and the follow up treatment was to rinse the mouth with hot water and half a teaspoon of salt 4 times a day until healed.

This reminded me of a story related to me by my father. He suffered a terrible injury to his thumb when in his mid life years. At the time he was exercising race horses by swimming them in the sea. He would soak his thumb in the sea water for up to twenty minutes at a time and completely healed it.

So there is another natural way to heal - and a proven one at that!!

There are many big things happening on the world stage -- Example the Bin LADEN story these past couple of days.
The Missippi flooding and the talk of blowing up the levees with hundreds of tons of explosives.. The terrible destruction from the tornadoes - all happening in the USA

Here in Australia flooding to most of the Eastern states -
Destruction on a huge scale.Actually there is flooding all over the world -There are earthquakes, volcanoes, storms and hurricanes sweeping our earth on a massive scale..


Is it all coming to a head?

I dont know for sure but I have a strong intuition that we will have to return to nature to continue the species as all man made structures and artificial constructs are due to be wiped out as Mother Earth cleanses herself..

Those of us on life saving pills will have to find another way to continue our lives if the whole structure collapses.

I know it does sound doomy and there is a lot of that on GLP but I think that we can keep going if we learn how to sustain ourselves - Nature it seems to me is the answer.

The Australian aborigine has survived for centuries living off the land... The ones that lived near the coast were fat and healthy - Eating mostly sea foods. The ones who lived in the desert also survived because they learned the secrets of the land -- Could find water... knew what berries to eat and what plants healed... They were skinnier but quite healthy..

So it might be a good idea to do a bit of research while we still can -- The internet is great for that.

So do you think kelp is better than iodine supplements such as Iodoral, Lugols, and iodine tincture applied to the skin? I ran out of iodine a few days ago and went looking at the GNC. They did not have iodine, only kelp. Several Walgreens stores in my area have been out of iodine tincture for at least one week. They keep saying they should get some in a few days, then it was by the end of the week, but the end of the week has come and gone and still no TI! I asked the manager and he said a lot of people have been coming in saying that all of the Walgreens are out. He said it was a "manufacturing issue". I said "I wonder what that would be? I have had a couple bottles and they've been fine". He said it's not like a recall, just some manufacturing issue. I thought "Yea, sure".

The other cashiers were looking at me rather odd. Probably wondering WTH - a couple bottles of iodine??? LOL ~ Or maybe they thought I was using it for meth. I sure did feel like a junkie though, having a fix because I couldn't get any iodine!! I literally am NOT the same without it! Without it I'm tired, groggy, dizzy, uncoordinated, etc. I am going to stock up as soon as I find more! Going to CVS today, if they don't have any, I will order on eBay or Amazom.

BTW: iodine is required for the thyroid gland to create thyroxine.

Have you tried just supplementing with iodine? I have actually found 2% tincture of iodine applied to the skin several times a day works better for me than iodine pills. The change in how I feel when applying iodine to my skin is truly like night and day! I have narcolepsy and when I was using the iodine (I ran out close to a week ago) I was actually able to take 1/2 the dose of my narcolepsy meds and I felt GREAT!!!

I am really beginning to wonder if narcolepsy is also caused by an iodine deficiency. Iodine is necessary for the thyroid to make its hormones, so perhape iodine is also necessary for the hypothalamus to create hypocretin/orexin (the proteins missing in the brains of narcoleptics)???? I really think I am onto something here! Not only that, but the hypothalamus controls the pituitary gland, which controls -in large part- the thyroid gland. All of these body parts belong to the endocrine system and they are all related!

And think about this one! Most autoimmune disorders are in the endocrine system: narcolepsy, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, etc. Thyroid gland plays a huge role in the functioning of the endocrine system. Pituitary plays a large role in the functioning of the thyroid gland. Hypothalamus tells the pituitary gland to secrete the hormones which tell the thyroid to produce thyroid hormone. IODINE IS NECESSARY FOR THYROID HORMONE TO BE MADE. If there is not enough or NO iodine in the body, why would the hypothalamus bother telling the pituitary gland to send the signal to the thyroid to make hormone? I don't think it would.

I am not totally sure how to connect all of this, it's just what I have come up with recently. I do know that Dr. Brownstein says he believes autoimmune disorders are the result of an iodine deficiency. I also believe this to be true! My doctor was just getting ready to send me to an endocrinologist because I had so many problems and symptoms related to endocrine disorder. I had every symptom of hypothyroidism. I had a lot of pain in my joints, muscles and connective tissues, suggestive of arthritis, Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis (despite normal rheumatoid factor test), among other things. Just after visiting my doctor that day when she said she was getting ready to refer me to an endocrinologist, I stopped off and bought a bottle of 2% iodine tincture (I had just learned about it the day before - thank God!).

I KID YOU NOT! All of my symptoms completely disappeared over the next 2-3 weeks!!! Iodine is nothing short of a miracle!!! NO PAIN!!! The aches and pains in my muscles, joints, bones, etc. became a relaxed, sort of tingly, very good feeling! Almost as if I could not even feel them at all! I don't know how to explain it. Similar to when you are in pain and you take a codeine or vicodin and you feel that pain just melt away and it's replaced with just a warm, tingly, relaxed feeling in your muscles (without the narcotic effect, of course). Iodine just makes you feel GOOD, naturally! All day, every day!

I know it really works because I have been out for awhile and I feel that aching, tension and pain in my shoulders, neck, hips, knees, and muscles in general. Headaches are more frequent too. I did not take one ibuprofen during the 3-4 weeks I was using the iodine! I usually take ibuprofen several times per week (or day).

I hope my experience will help someone else!