A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. | |
v0rtex666 User ID: 914496 United States 07/27/2010 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. Knew this was coming. We had a good run. Time to invent some new technology... Another day in eternity, basking in the reflected vortex of the chaotic light and the homogeneous metallic quantum foam. |
He Might Be Right? User ID: 1019506 Canada 07/27/2010 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. I had done a little digging myself on this back around the 23rd of this month, at which time I also became aware of the connection in Chicago, I then forwarded the information along to the effected parties, and was very pleased to see the dots connected so quickly, the old saying about strength in numbers seems to again, hold water...... |
SpaceGhost User ID: 1034732 United States 07/27/2010 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
joejoe J to the 3rd User ID: 1049982 Switzerland 07/27/2010 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. yep, and it all links with what i said here. a multi tiered attack... Thread: wikileaks = controlled opposition? did they leak these docs so that the Gov can turn around and censor the web? . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 657383 Canada 07/27/2010 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. Of course, up until this point most of the opposition to it has been framed as a "leftist" issue and thus not on people's radar. Maybe that will finally change. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1031207 United States 07/27/2010 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
He Might Be Right? User ID: 1019506 Canada 07/27/2010 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. yep, and it all links with what i said here. Quoting: joejoea multi tiered attack... Thread: wikileaks = controlled opposition? did they leak these docs so that the Gov can turn around and censor the web? so I slid back and had a peek at your comment's and I agree 100%, something is rotten in the state of Denmark... It is the classic spin alright, left hand right hand kind of thing, but hopefully enough folk are beginning to wake up to this constant helping of drivel, and maybe they will finally choke on it and say ENOUGH!!! |
DaJavoo User ID: 1050044 United States 07/27/2010 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Tols User ID: 683708 United States 07/27/2010 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. Scrump, I am going to post this on my FB if you don't mind. Great work to you and SHR for bringing this to light; one thing I find funny is they are using WikiLeaks to help expedite the process of shutting down blogs and alternative news sights through releasing of "sensitive and classified" information. Keep up the good fight. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison "Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance-- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 981223 United States 07/27/2010 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. The idea that the recent lawsuits against blogs & forums may be from originating from the White House is quickly coming clear as being reality... Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanSHR's discovery of Righthaven founder Steven Gibson's Chicago links to the Obamas' via Sidley Austin just became even more pivitol... Thread: RightHaven the Blog and Forum lawsuit firm and the ties to Obama....SHOCKING! Because Not Surprisingly... The White House Copyright Czar, Victoria Espinel, also worked at Sidley Austin. [link to www.nndb.com] Ms. Espinel also served as Deputy Assistant USTR for Intellectual Property and as Associate General Counsel at USTR. Before joining USTR, Ms. Espinel was with the law firms of Covington & Burling in London and Washington, D.C., and Sidley Austin in New York... [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to thomas.loc.gov] Office of the U.S. Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator About the Office of the U.S. Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator (IPEC) Hi, I am Victoria Espinel, the U.S. Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator. I am honored to have been appointed by President Barack Obama and confirmed by the U.S. Senate to serve in this new position created by Congress in the Prioritizing Resources and Organization for Intellectual Property Act of 2008. Given the unique nature of this job, I’d like to describe what I’m doing in my office and how we want to engage the public to get input on what we, as a government, should be doing. More... [link to www.whitehouse.gov] This is a planned & executed move by DC. Good post, Scrumpy. Can hardly wait until your next newsletter comes out and you give TPTB, the "Full Scrump" treatment on this new way to silence WH critics. When you think about it, IT'S ALREADY had it's effect, just like the scariest time after 9/11 was the next day when everyone who worked in a building taller than 2 stories, spent the day watching for hijacked airliners! Even on GLP, the urge to collapse in a heap of futility is rearing it's ugly head. The post views are down and the comments are defiant but with a certain sense of empty fury. After all, what can the average individual blogger do, under the weight of a federal lawsuit and pockets deep enough to reach all the way back to that pocket lint in the bowels of the White House? I just hope Trinity means what he says about fighting this to the declaratory judgment phase. Otherwise, it'll be "nice knowing you" for ALL of us! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1048472 South Africa 07/27/2010 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Matrix User ID: 966032 Australia 07/27/2010 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. I think the problem with free speech, is that it is just that, its free; these copyright issues are about protecting income streams, not about protecting rights. When ideas have a price tag put on them, those which cost nothing are regarded as nothing. Its always about the messenger and never about the message! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 981223 United States 07/27/2010 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 847197 United States 07/27/2010 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
ZTE User ID: 779511 United States 07/27/2010 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. But either way it doesn't matter who originally gave the order, what matters is how do we put a stop to it? |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 07/27/2010 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. Scrump, I am going to post this on my FB if you don't mind. Quoting: TolsGreat work to you and SHR for bringing this to light; one thing I find funny is they are using WikiLeaks to help expedite the process of shutting down blogs and alternative news sights through releasing of "sensitive and classified" information. Keep up the good fight. Go for it, Tols. I agree that the wikicrap is nothing but a timed excuse to do what they've said all along that they'll do. This is important... if we can't make this a viral issue NOW & get the MSMtards squealing about it (not easy... since they back it)... we're done. Good post, Scrumpy. Can hardly wait until your next newsletter comes out and you give TPTB, the "Full Scrump" treatment on this new way to silence WH critics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981223When you think about it, IT'S ALREADY had it's effect, just like the scariest time after 9/11 was the next day when everyone who worked in a building taller than 2 stories, spent the day watching for hijacked airliners! Even on GLP, the urge to collapse in a heap of futility is rearing it's ugly head. The post views are down and the comments are defiant but with a certain sense of empty fury. After all, what can the average individual blogger do, under the weight of a federal lawsuit and pockets deep enough to reach all the way back to that pocket lint in the bowels of the White House? I just hope Trinity means what he says about fighting this to the declaratory judgment phase. Otherwise, it'll be "nice knowing you" for ALL of us! Thanks AC, & Agreed. This issue is 'the last stand' for sites like this one... it's certianly not the only attack we've got coming at us, but will be a DECISIVE first-shot... either way that it turns out. The day is coming that we'll click GLP & see this: :sitegone.2.gone: Or something like it... If this can't be stopped. I'm not gonna be able to respond to this thread until this afternoon.. gotta head out the door to work. But I invite everyone to do everything that you can to dig up info on this issue & spread it far & wide... it's important. Last Edited by ScrumpTheTexan on 07/27/2010 10:42 AM I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Resister User ID: 669410 United States 07/27/2010 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. All your speech are belong to us. Screenshot from Drudge in June 2009. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Karu User ID: 826286 United States 07/27/2010 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. A clear assault on free speech... Quoting: Once4AllUSA is being gutted. The DISCLOSURE ACT is to be voted on tomorrow: Thread: *** Senate to vote on DISCLOSE Act Tomorrow--Calls Needed *** |
Tols User ID: 376580 United States 07/27/2010 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. Scrump, I am going to post this on my FB if you don't mind. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanGreat work to you and SHR for bringing this to light; one thing I find funny is they are using WikiLeaks to help expedite the process of shutting down blogs and alternative news sights through releasing of "sensitive and classified" information. Keep up the good fight. Go for it, Tols. I agree that the wikicrap is nothing but a timed excuse to do what they've said all along that they'll do. This is important... if we can't make this a viral issue NOW & get the MSMtards squealing about it (not easy... since they back it)... we're done. Good post, Scrumpy. Can hardly wait until your next newsletter comes out and you give TPTB, the "Full Scrump" treatment on this new way to silence WH critics. When you think about it, IT'S ALREADY had it's effect, just like the scariest time after 9/11 was the next day when everyone who worked in a building taller than 2 stories, spent the day watching for hijacked airliners! Even on GLP, the urge to collapse in a heap of futility is rearing it's ugly head. The post views are down and the comments are defiant but with a certain sense of empty fury. After all, what can the average individual blogger do, under the weight of a federal lawsuit and pockets deep enough to reach all the way back to that pocket lint in the bowels of the White House? I just hope Trinity means what he says about fighting this to the declaratory judgment phase. Otherwise, it'll be "nice knowing you" for ALL of us! Thanks AC, & Agreed. This issue is 'the last stand' for sites like this one... it's certianly not the only attack we've got coming at us, but will be a DECISIVE first-shot... either way that it turns out. The day is coming that we'll click GLP & see this: :sitegone.2.gone: Or something like it... If this can't be stopped. I'm not gonna be able to respond to this thread until this afternoon.. gotta head out the door to work. But I invite everyone to do everything that you can to dig up info on this issue & spread it far & wide... it's important. totally agree and that picture is scary to say the least; would suck to link to this sight and get that damn notice. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison "Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance-- |
Obummer Suxit User ID: 887642 United States 07/27/2010 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1042102 Bulgaria 07/27/2010 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
SUFFER FOOLS User ID: 896247 United States 07/27/2010 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. Pic of new Tsar: [link to thepeoplescube.com] Last Edited by SUFFER FOOLS on 07/27/2010 01:11 PM What Would Barry Goldwater Do? [link to www.vdare.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1046390 United States 07/27/2010 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. Hmmmm obviously the hate session is full on so the time for thinking about this has already passed for most of you, im just not so sure.... If they wanted to shut the internet down there are thousands of better ways to go about it. You guys always want to spit how obama has ultimate power etc... so if that were the case he could simply evoke executive privlege. Its not like they are only going after reichwing sites like glp wdn. Also how is it exact a attack on free speech when no speech is being denied? The articles still exist, we can still link to them and read them, and 50% is still cut and pasted. Like i said i understand the hate session is going on right now but just worth thinking about after you have calmed yourself down. |
ExhaleAeonVolts User ID: 810969 United States 07/27/2010 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
redpill2010 User ID: 469747 United States 07/27/2010 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. [link to en.wikipedia.org] From 1984 to 1988, Bernardine Dohrn was employed by the prestigious Chicago law firm Sidley Austin.[30] She was hired by Howard Trienens, the head of the firm at that time, who knew Thomas G. Ayers, the father of Dohrn's husband. "We often hire friends," Trienens told a reporter for the Chicago Tribune.[31] However, Dohrn had not been admitted to the New York or Illinois bar. She passed the New York bar exam but had not submitted an application to the New York Supreme Court's Committee on Character and Fitness.[30] She also passed the Illinois bar, but was turned down by the Illinois ethics committee because of her criminal record. Trienens said of the Illinois rejection, "Dohrn didn't get a [law] license because she's stubborn. She wouldn't say she's sorry." [31] It's all the same club, folks. |
Hillcrest User ID: 1036353 United States 07/27/2010 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
ExhaleAeonVolts User ID: 810969 United States 07/27/2010 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. [link to beforeitsnews.com] Copyright Czar Victoria Espinel unveiled Tuesday the Obama administration’s first “Joint Strategic Plan” concerning intellectual property enforcement — and she gave a big nod to fair use. The plan was required under the Pro-IP Act of 2008, which created Espinel’s post. The act was watered down to eliminate a Justice Department mandate that it assume duties of the movie studios and recording industry and sue copyright scofflaws. “Strong intellectual property enforcement efforts should be focused on stopping those stealing the work of others, not those who are appropriately building upon it,” said the report, referring to fair use. He who controls the past controls the future, and he who controls the present controls the past. -1984 |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 07/27/2010 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. I wonder who also worked at Sidley Austin... Quoting: redpill2010[link to en.wikipedia.org] From 1984 to 1988, Bernardine Dohrn was employed by the prestigious Chicago law firm Sidley Austin.[30] She was hired by Howard Trienens, the head of the firm at that time, who knew Thomas G. Ayers, the father of Dohrn's husband. "We often hire friends," Trienens told a reporter for the Chicago Tribune.[31] However, Dohrn had not been admitted to the New York or Illinois bar. She passed the New York bar exam but had not submitted an application to the New York Supreme Court's Committee on Character and Fitness.[30] She also passed the Illinois bar, but was turned down by the Illinois ethics committee because of her criminal record. Trienens said of the Illinois rejection, "Dohrn didn't get a [law] license because she's stubborn. She wouldn't say she's sorry." [31] It's all the same club, folks. Wow. . .just wow! They never went away, just regrouped. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1050280 United States 07/27/2010 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Coordinated Attack On Free Speech? White House "Copyright Czar" From Same Firm As Obama, Righthaven Founder. Hmmmm obviously the hate session is full on so the time for thinking about this has already passed for most of you, im just not so sure.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1046390If they wanted to shut the internet down there are thousands of better ways to go about it. You guys always want to spit how obama has ultimate power etc... so if that were the case he could simply evoke executive privlege. Its not like they are only going after reichwing sites like glp wdn. Also how is it exact a attack on free speech when no speech is being denied? The articles still exist, we can still link to them and read them, and 50% is still cut and pasted. Like i said i understand the hate session is going on right now but just worth thinking about after you have calmed yourself down. I don't think you understand.... YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE 50% OR 80% RULE, WHEN THEY'RE SUING IN FEDERAL COURT WITHOUT A CEASE AND DESIST! If you're a small time site owner or blogger, you don't have the $250,000 RETAINER to start your defense against a FEDERAL court case! So you can: 1. DEFAULT and run for the hills (giving up your website or presence and losing all paid advertising.) 2. PAY the money and go to court with no guarantee of winning or even solving the problem (since, for example, Obongo has sued THREE TIMES so far, to stop ALL oil drilling in the Gulf) 3. Crawl to these vermin and make a settlement OFFER and see what they WILL take, in lieu of the above. (And since they WIN BIG and shut you up in both of the above scenarios, don't hold your breath!) And don't forget,.....if you WIN by some chance, they will simply APPEAL up to and including the US Supreme Court...all without even a legitimate REASON to have sued you in the first place! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 955441 United States 07/27/2010 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |