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Jesus Was a Rape Child

 
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And you can go ahead and wave to me now, and every other day for the rest of your life. Judgment Day isn't coming.

cruise

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Good luck.
At best you have a 50 / 50.


And, at best, you have 1/countless amounts of religions.

If you picked the wrong one, we both burn in the same hell forever, considering the correct religion (if there is one) has a hell. You're so sure that Christianity is THE religion, but when Jesus was talking, what religion was the God of that time? Judaism. OH SHIT! Christians might be following the wrong religion!? But, they'll never know for sure. You can devote your life to a god that hasn't shown himself to you, I prefer to live my life how I want.
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Judaism was looking to Christ. Most of the jews, like you my friend, chose not to believe.
The book of Job was written before Abraham and even then Jesus was in the picture.

For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God;
True "religion" has always looked toward the redeemer.
It's not the originals fault that there are counterfits.
Deal with it.

And by the way, Jesus shows himself to me everyday.
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Only idiots use the R word as a putdown. Thanks for outing yourself! Agenda? NO, only seeking truth. If you call that an agenda, then I am guilty as charged.
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Seekers of truth don't blaspheme and ridicule.
You are a liar also.
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if that were so, is that supposed to change the way we view him?
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She had to come up with something to explain being pregnant.

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. Deuteronomy 22:20-21
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And by the way, Jesus shows himself to me everyday.
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Do you ever call rape?
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if that were so, is that supposed to change the way we view him?
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You're right. He called for the murder and execution of thousands of people throughout the Bible. You dislike Hitler, though. He must have went 1 person too far.
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He was. According the the bible this is what he was. Mary was raped by god.


Theres two of them. Of of them has a Mom and Dad and is a Summer Sun God. the Other is conceived by A spirit in the winter and is a Sun God.

There is such a thing where a spirit can "make love" to a Human woman. And place something inside her.



There's no way to "place something inside of her" without penetrating her. That's rape, even if he used his "spirit fingers".

Your god is a child rapist!
 Quoting: OilAwakening


Rape implies force.

God does NOT force Himself on anyone.
Finally single woooohooo!!

Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.

"Repent, for the time is at hand"...JC

"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
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if that were so, is that supposed to change the way we view him?


You're right. He called for the murder and execution of thousands of people throughout the Bible. You dislike Hitler, though. He must have went 1 person too far.
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And your proof is where?
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Jesus' Background

Jesus was born to a peasant Hebrew family in Galilee during the reign of Augustus Caesar. His native tongue was Aramaic, although he was conversant in Greek and other languages and dialects. His parents were Joseph and Mary, who were both practising Essenes. Joseph was a carpenter by trade, which does not imply that he built furniture, but instead would indicate that he would do handyman's work of a labouring nature. The Essenes were a Jewish Gnostic sect with their home at Qumran, which was destroyed during the first Roman-Jewish war.

The reason for assigning Jesus' birthplace to Bethlehem in the gospels is for convenience in fulfilling an ancient prophecy that the Messiah of King David's lineage would be born in Bethlehem. Jesus' home was near a Greco-Roman city called Sepphoris. He was not of a virgin birth. He was second born in a family of six children, which included five boys and one girl. His brother James and his sister Miriam played an important role in his life then, as they again do in this life.

He was not born in a manger, nor did any wise men visit Mary and Joseph when Jesus was born. Had these wise men actually visited bearing gifts as stated in gospels they would have made Jesus' parents quite wealthy. Neither were there any shepherds who saw the guiding "star" or who were told by angels that the son of God was born in a manger. There was no massacre of Jewish male infants and no flight to Egypt by Mary and Joseph as recorded in the Bible. In fact, Jesus was born quietly and his birth was unannounced so that he could avoid suspicion from the opposing force.

Although Jesus was not born into a priestly class, his mother's family had connections which made it possible for him to have the opportunity to learn the ancient Jewish texts at an early age. He was familiar with the Vedic Hymns and the Avesta from his mother, who had learned extensive knowledge from the connections her family had. Being extremely intelligent and being guided by the Divine Light within him, he was able to make great progress within a short time.

There was immense rebellion and harsh suppression by the ruling elite of Jesus' time. Hence, at an early age, Jesus was exposed to such scenes and was sensitive to injustice, oppression of the poor and the disadvantaged, and the suffering and exploitation around him.

He was very opposed to animal sacrifice and the unjust distinction of classes in the society of his time. He had profound compassion for suffering human beings and animals. He was saddened and empathetic towards the animals as they pathetically bleated in terror as they were being sacrificed for religious purposes: he was also greatly impacted as birds and other animals pleaded before being slaughtered for food. He was nauseated by the awful stench that came from burning flesh.

Jesus was against people defiling the temples of worship by such acts as having money-changers at the doors and selling worldly goods and providing inappropriate entertainment there. This is why he turned over the money-changers' tables and rebuked them all. This was done shortly after he rejected the fig tree, which represented the entire evil creation. Jesus was spared of punishment for the incident involving the money-changers only because of the intervention of a Roman nobleman who was in fact one of the "Twelve Sisters" "incarnated" (affectionately known as Burnley Naylor in the 20th century). In esoteric terms, the "temple" is where your inner being resides which should be respected and honoured. The physical temples built by humankind are only symbolic representations of the true "temples", however, the polluting of the physical temples has a polluting effect on the real "temples" of the consciousnesses of beings of Light. Jesus personalised a strict inner discipline. He showed people that it could be done with sincerity, perseverance and faith in the Divine. Jesus warned true beings of the traps of glitters of this material world which will lure many true beings from their Divine path.

His mother Mary inwardly sensed that Jesus was no ordinary child. She sensed the divine guidance during the conception, growth and nurturing of Jesus. She intuitively knew that Jesus had a divine mission. Mary could see purity and light surrounding her child and she paid meticulous attention in nurturing him physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually. It gave Mary great pleasure in watching Jesus walking through the courtyard of their home towards her and greeting her lovingly with a broad smile as he proceeded to join her and members of the family for the evening meal. She was distinctly aware of the events which awaited Jesus in the not too distant years. She knew that her heart would be pierced with sorrow one day.

It should be mentioned here that the being who is Jesus was earlier in the physical body of Mary, his mother, until Jesus attained the age of twelve. At that point, the physical body of Mary was thereafter occupied by a "walk-in" who is the same being who occupied the physical body of Jesus until that point.

As stated above, something very special happened to the physical body of Jesus when he was about twelve years of age. A-itu the Eternal Flame descended upon the physical body of Jesus and he was adorned with Divine Spirit. (This is the point in time when the consciousness in the physical body of Mary swapped with the consciousness in the physical body of Jesus).

The Divine Spirit guided and nurtured Jesus throughout the rest of his life. Although he spent much of his time in strict inner discipline, he felt "impressed" to travel to other lands for further instructions and re-awakening. He knew that he had an important Divine Mission to accomplish in his lifetime. There was a sense of urgency with timing.

Jesus grew up in a Greek speaking world, just a few miles from a large Hellenistic city. He was a happy child surrounded with a lot of love and compassion and by loving people in his family and the community around him. Jesus grew up as a "normal" Essene until he was twelve when the spirit of A-itu, the Eternal Flame touched him. From then on, personal conflict with John the Baptist and with the corrupted teachings slowly developed. He was aware of various sectarian differences existing in the Essene community in which he was reared. He hoped to reveal new teachings that would be incorporated with the salient and spiritual aspects of the duality and other various factions of Essenes' teachings which were given by the Light through Divine Messengers before him, while at the same time removing the man-made and corrupted aspects that had polluted the Gnostic Truth.

Thus, with his mother's blessings, at a very young age by our modern standards, Jesus was guided by the Spirit of A-itu to quietly disappear from his home. He took a ride with a merchant from Jerusalem who knew his parents. Together with the merchant and others, he travelled to India. By this time, he was a wise young man (by the days of old) with a gift of words. He was about fourteen when he first beheld the buzzing city of Gujarat. There, Jesus stayed in various towns and villages doing odd jobs and quietly observing and learning the local spiritual beliefs of the people of this new land. All the time, he was observing and taking things in and noting the corruption of Truth by agents of Darkness. During his travels he kept in communication with his home through merchants who travelled from India to Jerusalem and back. While in India, Jesus travelled to many lands but his main stops were at Gujarat, Jaganneth, Benares, Nepal and Lhasa in Tibet. Jesus further studied the Vedas and other ancient texts from various cultures. One of the many things that he was opposed to was the caste system in India and the mistreatment of women there and elsewhere.

While travelling, Jesus visited many places abroad in Asia, Greece and Africa. In India, he studied the works of Buddha (Prince Siddhartha Gautama, called the Buddha) who lived over 500 years before him and was able to sort out the distortions of Buddha's teaching from the fundamental Gnostic truth. He was aware that Buddha adopted the Gnostic view of the "soul" being trapped in the material body which was a prison for it, that all sufferings in this world were due to human desires, that if human beings could detach themselves from such desires they could break the cycle of rebirth to achieve nirvana (liberation from rebirth and from the entrapment in matter).

Many people think that Jesus' teachings are based upon Buddhist principles. This is not so. Gautama Buddha himself was influenced by a mixture of Gnostic and other teachings of his time. Even though Buddha supposedly taught beautiful principles, they were actually empty words that he had purloined from other sources. Things are not always what they appear to be in this Virtual Reality. Likewise, Buddha, in spite of his apparent struggle for spirituality, for truth, for liberation from suffering and the depiction of him being a compassionate being are deceptions by the Buddha. This is so because Buddha is a High Being of Darkness whose mission was to corrupt and blind the seekers of truth. It is another case of a wolf in sheep's skin. Buddha is one of the many incarnations (faces) of the Anti-Christ. The apparent Light in him was due to the attachment of the Light of one of the "Twelve Sisters" in him.

Buddha's teachings were not recorded until 500 years after his death. Oral tradition is unreliable, not to mention that even when teachings are recorded there will always be those who will misinterpret it, embellish it to give it apparent authenticity, mysticism, prophetic fulfilment, or to purposely distort it. Such is the common experience in this dimension of untruth, of evil. This is done even to the "teachings" of the Anti-Christ.

Many of the sayings of Jesus are similar to the sayings of Buddha not because Jesus was a Buddhist nor that he copied Buddha's teachings but due to human manipulation using the pesher method which allows many gaps to be filled and things added and edited to make them look similar and to fulfil prophecies invented by men. Even the records of Jesus' life in India and Tibet were mostly distortions and myths. It is not uncommon for apparently well-meaning people to "invent" stories of heroes or well-respected figures to encourage or inspire others. Jesus was well respected and loved by many in his sojourn in the East even though he had enemies also. Further, the Buddha being was not the same being "incarnated" previously as Zoroaster. Zoroaster was the "incarnation" of one of the "Sisters".

Jesus also studied the art of healing and various Hindu disciplines. It was not uncommon to find him engaging in discussions with Indian priests and teaching amongst the people he lived with. As he travelled from village to village, he was very aware of the injustices, sufferings and exploitations around him hovering like vultures ever ready to devour the oppressed, the disadvantaged and the poor. He spoke with great wisdom, so much so that some of the people who had met him and listened to his teaching thought he was Buddha incarnated. (Which is quite similar to Herod thinking that Jesus was John the Baptist resurrected — and equally wrong — however John the Baptist and Buddha are one and the same being, as are Mohammed and Krishna. Always remember, however, that all of the above-named individuals had attached to them one of the "Twelve Sisters" which would give them the occasional appearance of Divinity.)

Jesus was not short of criticism against the injustices of the caste system in India. He saw through the hypocrisy and arrogance of the Brahmin class and the humiliation and oppression of the "untouchables" — the lowest class. He was critical of the Brahmin rites as he could see the illusions and evilness behind them. One of the highlights of his stay in India was meeting an Indian sage who was ontologically intimately connected to him. This Indian sage who resided in a small village in the hills of the Himalayas was none other than Babaji of Haidakhan. They both recognised each other as ontological beings outside this dimension and beyond. This event further facilitated the spiritual progress and work of both beings (Jesus and Babaji).

Jesus visited and engaged in debates and discussions on a wide range of subjects with the various religious teachers in the countries he spent time in. Some of these were happy with his discourses, others rejected him outright with intense hate and jealousy.

One day he received a message from his Higher-Self, A-itu (the Eternal Flame), that it was time to return to his homeland to begin his "real work" which was to commence in Galilee. Hence, he returned to his homeland shortly after.

Jesus was about thirty years old when he made preparation for the beginning of his real public work. He spent many days in the desert, isolating himself from all humans and fasting and meditating for days. During that time he received many instructions from his Higher Self which he was to carry out. He told his mother about his Divine mission and received her blessings. His father Joseph, who Jesus was very close to, had since passed away while he was in India.

Most of the Essenes were supportive of him even though he was to start his own teaching. Jesus was given his own message. His Divine message went beyond that of the Essenes though his central Gnostic theme remained the same as their undistorted portions of their message because the messages came from the same Source. His first official teaching was held in his own home amongst his family members and some Essene friends of the family.

Subsequently, he preached to the people in Qumran who called themselves "the Poor". In his own teachings, amongst other things, Jesus rejected strict asceticism (which often is an outward display of ego) and baptism. In his ministry, Jesus was confronted by people filled with messianic fanaticism. This often caused misunderstanding, confusion and resentment among the unawares when Jesus rejected people's hopes that he might fulfil their expectations of that time as a liberator from the Roman rule. The Christ conceived of by Paul is a pre-existent divine being who takes on a human body to save humankind from the powers of sin, law and death. Others view Christ as the incarnation of Logos. In reality, Christ is the Ultimate — the Divine Mother Absolute — A-itu, the Eternal Flame.

Jesus stressed the simplicity of life to combat the temptations and beguilement of evil. He often taught in parables to illustrate his point. His main message was about the two Natures (Principles) — of Light and Darkness — Good and Evil. He was awakening people to the fact that the creator of this world was not the true God but an evil usurper; that there were two creations; and that those of the true Divine creation had been trapped in this material world ever since the take-over by Evil which resulted in a continuous battle of Good and Evil in humankind ever since.

He urged those who would listen to him to be vigilant against the falsehood of the Prince of Darkness of this world which was symbolically represented by Satan or the Devil.

He healed the sick and exorcised those who were possessed by evil spirits. He taught about the end time when Light would proclaim victory over Evil and guided his followers on the path of Light. He stressed the importance of turning within to seek the Divine Truth which alone could liberate them from the control of Evil.

Jesus condemned the hypocrisy and arrogance of the Pharisees and Sadducees as he did the Brahmin priests in India. This inevitably incurred their wrath. But what he said was true and he was there to expose falsehood. As Jesus' popularity soared, and as he became more vocal and open in his exposure of evil, those of evil, in particular the Pharisees and the Sadducees were jealous towards him and enraged by his truth. Until then, no one dared speak so passionately against them.

For various reasons, these enemies of Jesus plotted to get rid of him. Jesus and Mary knew the day would come when he (Jesus) would be murdered by the archons of Evil, but they knew that until it was time for him to return to the Mother-Father Spirit, he would not be harmed. Like all good mothers who loved their children, Mary knew that the day would come when her heart would be pierced by the sorrow of watching as her son suffered unjustly and horrendously in the hands of evil beings. She knew the time for that was drawing nearer each day. Her energy supported Jesus as he diligently spread the Divine message from place to place.

A few months after the commencement of his public work, Jesus had gathered a small group of men and women who had volunteered to assist with organising the meeting place, provision of food and lodging and other day to day domestic activities. His work attracted people of both essences for diverse reasons. Superficially those of the counterfeit creation who were following him agreed with his teaching and some even appeared to embrace it ardently.

However, on the energy level, they were not sincere. Such ones almost always appear amongst any given group of any messengers of Light and they always try to distort the truth. There was no exception in Jesus' case. These evil ones purposely distorted his teachings and called his teaching heresy. Jesus was given his own teaching. He did not need the approval of the priestly class who regarded themselves as the experts on Divine revelation. These evil ones always create a mess for the beings of Light whenever they take over as a representative of the Light.

Can you envisage an enemy of Light acting as teacher of Light? Undoubtedly, such one will lead others astray by giving them the untruth. This practice of hi-jacking occurred after Jesus' death and continues even until the present time. It will continue to operate in that evil manner until evil is totally annihilated, for evil always corrupts if it is allowed to continue.

Contrary to the image constructed by the compilers of the gospels, Jesus was an eloquently out-spoken man. He did not tell his followers to love their enemies or to turn the other cheek to them. He did not teach that marriage was sacred and should be observed at all costs. Jesus never advocated that God put couples together in marriage. Nor did he say what God has put together, let no man put asunder. His enemies twisted what he said to suit themselves. The work that Jesus performed in the world for the Gnostics (the beings of Light) is revelation, for the most part, rather than redemption in the sense in which mainstream Christianity identified his work.

Jesus' revelation involved imparting secret knowledge, the Nous, especially during that time prior to his ascent into the heavenly region of Light. He preached about the dangers of compromising with Darkness; and encouraged his followers to be ongoing warriors for the Light. He warned them of the many disguises of evil and the traps that could occur in a marriage and encouraged those who could, to remain celibate. For this he was accused of being a homosexual.

He disregarded the rules that the "unclean" persons — gentiles, the physically handicapped, women, and married men, were barred from communion and from being initiated into the full monastic life. Most importantly, he showed them the way by his own examples in words, thoughts, and actions. Thus, his appearance in the world and his presence among his followers brought enlightenment to his true disciples. Enlightenment is understood as knowledge of one's self as belonging to an other-worldly order of Divine origin and self-sufficiency.

The Gnostic Christ did not come to the world to save it or to forgive sins, or to die for the sins of this world, but he came instead to collect the Light beings, awaken the true beings among humankind to their ignorance of their true spiritual origin, and prepare the way and bring them home to the heavenly world of Light. He did not seek to prepare the minds of people for the coming of the new world teacher in the Aquarian Age as the New Agers believe. Also, Jesus is not associated in any way with the one who is currently referred to as "Lord Maitreya", who is in fact a very Dark being.

As the energy built up around Jesus, his work became more and more intense and so was the retaliation from evil — like a big rock being thrown into the water, the ripples spread out and debris and mud are stirred to the surface. At last the day had arrived when Jesus was delivered to his enemies. The Pharisees who themselves were people of the Lie referred to him and his teachings as heretical and called him "the Man of a Lie". This sounds familiar when we look at how the church fathers looked upon all teachings different from theirs as heresies and took steps to silence those who dared differ from their teaching. The archons and minions of Evil always lie against the messengers and followers of the Light in order to frustrate, block and destroy them. This trait of Evil has never deviated from time immemorial. In all probability, if Jesus were to appear in any body and identify herself/himself as Jesus Christ to the current leaders of the major Christian churches, they would persecute her/him anew just like the Pharisees and Sadducees of old. This is because the leaders of the churches stand to lose the most with the return of Jesus.

Jesus lived a life of celibacy right till the end of his physical life when he was crucified on the cross at the age of thirty-three. He had an extremely strong, yet slender body. He was not big, but was a very imposing figure. His hair was dark, slightly wavy, and he wore it at shoulder length. There was no trial before Pontius Pilate as the gospels would have us believe. Jesus, however, was mercilessly tortured, humiliated and spat upon before he was murdered. The denial by Peter never took place and neither did Jesus heal the man whose ear was cut off.

Although it appears that Jesus was put to death for political-religious reasons, those are only physical reasons. It was the Pharisees and the Sadducees who instigated the murder of Jesus. Under the jurisdiction and order of Pontius Pilate with the concurrence of high Judean officials who were jealous of Jesus and who were threatened by his outspoken words against them, Jesus was finally delivered to the evil ones and was executed. However, on the energy level, the opposing force was attempting to kill Jesus because they suspected that he was the one sent to lead the mission of Correction of the Celestial Error. But, Jesus was ready to return "Home" because he had laid all the groundwork that was required for the future, when he would return again to conclude the Correction when the time was right. The time is now!

Jesus was punished for speaking the Truth and for being a champion for those who were exploited by the system. Crucifixion is a punishment widely practised in antiquity as a deliberate humiliation and punishment and deterrent. Jesus was delivered to King Herod — an Evil Being, who is like a "spiritual twin" to John the Baptist. When Jesus was crucified his mother, his brother James and his sister Miriam were nearby. King Herod was so threatened by Jesus (not so much because of political differences, but primarily due to their opposite ontologies) that Herod personally went to the cross to mock Jesus and make certain that he died.

When Mary was kneeling near the cross while Jesus suffered and was dying, she was overwhelmed with sadness and leaned forward to touch her son's feet. Her heart was pierced with sorrow. While touching Jesus' feet, Herod Antipas himself came up to her and accosted her with a whip that had many tails and feathers on the handle. He was also adorned in white-feathered attire. This was a most unusual appearance at an execution, but he wanted to make certain that Jesus was killed and in his sick mind, he wanted to watch Jesus die. As he hit Mary, he shouted, "Woman! Get out of here!"

Jesus was crucified alone. There were no others on crosses near him. The story of Barabbas associated with the crucifixion of Jesus was false. There was never an attempt to free Jesus by Pilate, nor did the crowd influence Pilate to free Barabbas instead of Jesus. The site was at a very ordinary spot, outside the city, which has been referred to as Golgotha. As Jesus' physical body laid hanging on the cross with blood streaming all over his body, his spirit hovered above him looking down at the blood-stained body. Mary and her family buried Jesus soon after his death. No angel appeared at his tomb, and Mary Magdalene was never near Jesus' tomb. There is no historical truthfulness in the physical resurrection of Jesus. Jesus would not resurrect a physical body that was created by Darkness (Matter).

Although there was no physical resurrection, after his death the spirit-body of Jesus was first "seen" by his brother James (who later incarnated as Edgar Cayce) and later by others.

The belief that Jesus came to this world to save humanity by redeeming the negative karma (Sanskrit word for action) of humanity (or paying the debt of humanity's Sin) through his death is terribly flawed. The truth is, he came to awaken true beings to the Mother-Father Light within them — and for this the evil beings murdered him.

Karma is understood as being a just law of cause and effect. Unfortunately this is not true. Karma is not a just system. Karma is evil. Few people know or suspect that karma is evil. The true God of Light did not impose such an evil system on this planet or anywhere else. Under this law, any one who incarnates on this plane has to abide by the law. It is not just and impersonal at all. It is imposed by Evil to exploit, manipulate and control humans. Contrary to what the Cosmic wants us to believe, this law is unjustly applied with favouritism. It was designed in such a way that in total, true beings were unjustly punished. It is a way of trapping people in a no-win situation for its own evil, selfish purpose.

Indeed, most people do not suspect that karma is a perfect trap set up by the Cosmic (the Usurper) to bring people back again and again through the wheels of incarnation. Misfortune is believed to be bad deeds done in a previous or present incarnation which is now catching up with the victim of misfortune and conversely, good fortune is regarded as a reward for past good deeds. Hence, people are taught not to interfere with karma.

The truth is, all suffering results in the production of emotional energy which prospers the Cosmic. The Cosmic depends on a constant supply of energy for its creation. In every lifetime mistakes are made so retribution according to this law of karma is never ending! Thus, like all the rest, everyone is trapped. How can karma be fair when so many factors, such as programming are dictating the actions of people? Fortunately the Board of Karma which dispenses it is finished. It appears to be continuing at present because of "unseen computers" which have been programmed to function and communicate with those down here just as the Lords of Karma did.

As stated earlier, shortly after Jesus' death he appeared in the etheric form to James and later to Mary, his mother and others who were close to him. Not long after Jesus' death, Mary, in taking the advice Jesus gave her before his death, left for India with a few trusted followers. There, she was welcomed by Babaji (the Babaji of Haidakhan of this century) with whom Jesus had spent some happy times previously in the Himalayas.

Jesus' departing words to his disciples were: "The Spirit of the Eternal Flame lives in all true Divine beings."

The apocalyptic phenomenon is a much misunderstood matter. Often people associate Christ's message as an apocalyptic message. But Jesus' message is about awakening the trapped beings who have forgotten their divine identity and preparing them for the time when they can be evacuated and returned to their original Divine abode. "Salvation" does not depend on physical destruction or physical resurrection.

It is not necessarily true that all those who advocate the apocalyptic solution to sufferings in life are seeking vindication for their mistreatment in this life and punishment for the wicked in the next world as some claim.

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mabe she was abducted buy Aliens just my .02
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mabe she was abducted buy Aliens just my .02
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that makes the most sense. artificial insemination by aliens. thats the only way she would still be a virgin.
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Well actually, he was a bastard child by some other man, either rape or mary just liked to get it on.

What kind of idiot believes "oh sorry husband, I am pregnant! i know we never fucked, but I swear! I am faithful! really! it must be magic!!"?
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This proves God of the Bible is a sociopath. Not only did he rape Mary, but got this sucker to raise his kid.
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Only idiots use the R word as a putdown. Thanks for outing yourself! Agenda? NO, only seeking truth. If you call that an agenda, then I am guilty as charged.

Seekers of truth don't blaspheme and ridicule.
You are a liar also.
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Indluging Blasphmy is the ULTIMATE truth!
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Rape implies force.

God does NOT force Himself on anyone.
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Of course it was rape. God is the father. Mary was his child. So it's not only statutory rape, but is also incest of a father upon his daughter.

Regardless of "agreement," incest is always rape, simply by nature of the relationship being abused to gain the so-called "consent."

The threat of losing the love of a parent by disobedience is coercive and removes all possibility of free will.



What could be more coercive than "obey me or BURN FOREVER"??

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By the way, the word translated to "virgin" isn't actually the word "virgin" at all. The word translated to "virgin" would more closely translate to "young woman."

The whole "virgin" business is yet more that was made up in order to convince the masses that the prophecy was unquestionably and definitely fulfilled.

Except that "Jesus" isn't "Immanuel." But hey, whatevs. LOL.
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Of course it was rape. God is the father. Mary was his child. So it's not only statutory rape, but is also incest of a father upon his daughter.

Regardless of "agreement," incest is always rape, simply by nature of the relationship being abused to gain the so-called "consent."

The threat of losing the love of a parent by disobedience is coercive and removes all possibility of free will.



What could be more coercive than "obey me or BURN FOREVER"??
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Perhaps you need to deal with your own incest issues instead of accusing God of it!
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By the way, the word translated to "virgin" isn't actually the word "virgin" at all. The word translated to "virgin" would more closely translate to "young woman."

The whole "virgin" business is yet more that was made up in order to convince the masses that the prophecy was unquestionably and definitely fulfilled.

Except that "Jesus" isn't "Immanuel." But hey, whatevs. LOL.
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And again bsflag


Guess you'll find out soon enough how much of it was "made up" huh?
Finally single woooohooo!!

Free your mind and the rest will follow.

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BE the change you wish to see in the world.

"Repent, for the time is at hand"...JC

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Perhaps you need to deal with your own incest issues instead of accusing God of it!
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Oh, look, it's Wingedlion's female counterpart. You're such a cute little stalker. Your fascination with me is creepy, yet flattering.

I'm sorry, though, honey, I don't do women.

You'll have to pine from a distance. So pathetic, and yet... so YOU.

Guess you'll find out soon enough how much of it was "made up" huh?
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I already found out how much of it is made up.

Your lust for the suffering of others is so beautiful. Gets you all hot and bothered, I'm sure.

No doubt, as from your comment above, reading my life's story did, too. How did you like the parts where I was violently raped as a 3 year old? What's wrong with you that you're not blaming that on me, too?

What a lousy stalker you are. So much to use against me, so little time, huh, sweetcakes?

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Perhaps you need to deal with your own incest issues instead of accusing God of it!


Oh, look, it's Wingedlion's female counterpart. You're such a cute little stalker. Your fascination with me is creepy, yet flattering.

I'm sorry, though, honey, I don't do women.

You'll have to pine from a distance. So pathetic, and yet... so YOU.

YOU are the one obsessessed with MY ass! butt

Guess you'll find out soon enough how much of it was "made up" huh?


I already found out how much of it is made up.

Oh really? And just HOW did you find this out? By reading the bible from your warped point of view?

Your lust for the suffering of others is so beautiful. Gets you all hot and bothered, I'm sure.

And just where have you seen proof of this?
I'm pretty sure you're referring to yourself here.


You're like a spouse that accuses the other of cheating all the while YOU are actually the one doing the cheating.

That says VOLUMES about you!

No doubt, as from your comment above, reading my life's story did, too. How did you like the parts where I was violently raped as a 3 year old? What's wrong with you that you're not blaming that on me, too?

YOU are the one that keeps bringing that up. DO YOU get off telling that story over and over?

What a lousy stalker you are. So much to use against me, so little time, huh, sweetcakes?

YOU came to a thread I was already posting on! meds
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Wow you are so warped and delusional!! crazy

Just how the hell am I stalking you when I was already posting on this thread?

You REALLY need to seek professional help!

You need to start working on all that ANGER and direct it at the ones responsible instead of everyone else!
Finally single woooohooo!!

Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.

"Repent, for the time is at hand"...JC

"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
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Wow you are so warped and delusional!! crazy

Just how the hell am I stalking you when I was already posting on this thread?

You REALLY need to seek professional help!

You need to start working on all that ANGER and direct it at the ones responsible instead of everyone else!
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Yes, taking something from my life story to use in a totally unrelated thread, when I had said nothing at all to you, as an ad hominem attack, leaves you in ANY position to tell someone else they need professional help.

You're a vicious, spiteful, nasty bitch. And that's being nice about it.

Really, the fact that you just can NOT leave me alone says a lot about you, little miss christian.

You're doing a damned fine job of displaying exactly the things that are most despicable about so many christians. Keep up the good work.
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Wow you are so warped and delusional!! crazy

Just how the hell am I stalking you when I was already posting on this thread?

You REALLY need to seek professional help!

You need to start working on all that ANGER and direct it at the ones responsible instead of everyone else!


Yes, taking something from my life story to use in a totally unrelated thread, when I had said nothing at all to you, as an ad hominem attack, leaves you in ANY position to tell someone else they need professional help.

You're a vicious, spiteful, nasty bitch. And that's being nice about it.

Really, the fact that you just can NOT leave me alone says a lot about you, little miss christian.

You're doing a damned fine job of displaying exactly the things that are most despicable about so many christians. Keep up the good work.
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WHAT did I take from your life story and use?

In fact...I haven't even read YOUR story...so how the hell could I use anything from it?
Just because you post it doesn't mean everyone rushes off to read it.

Just HOW have I bothered you? YOU came onto a thread I was on and didn't like my replies sooooo in typical Sandi fashion YOU GO ON THE ATTACK!

Yeah, you DO need professional help!
Finally single woooohooo!!

Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.

"Repent, for the time is at hand"...JC

"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
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You're a liar.
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You're a liar.
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Damn you said I was a lying liar before tissue
Have I moved up a level?


Still can't back up anything you say soooooo of course you must resort to name calling!

Soooooo pathetic!

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Finally single woooohooo!!

Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.

"Repent, for the time is at hand"...JC

"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
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Of course the holier than thou christians will attack me and my spirituality, or lack thereof for this but who cares? My sister-in-law is a christian, perhaps even a fanatic... of course she too insists that Jesus was not a rape baby since, as she explains it, the angel TOLD Mary what was to be and Mary basically accepted. She swears I need to be saved for that type of thinking. Needless to say, it's hard to have very intelligent conversations with her lol, however, on to my point, if a supposed angel told my 11-14 year old daughter she was going to be impregnated by a supposed god and she accepted (likely in fear cause an angel can be kind of intimidating), then woke up pregnant one day, I would have the angel and the god arrested... I'm just sayin.

For those of you who think it's o.k., or spiritually appropriate to let a CHILD be impregnated, shame on you.

Also to the person who said rape is by force, educate yourself... rape is more often power and control based which does not always mean physically forced. If the story is true, young virginal Mary, like so many low-self esteem ridden teen girls, looking for acceptance, likely with daddy issues, seems to have been effortlessly manipulated into being impregnated, which could easily fall into the category of rape.




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