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Never be Sick Again. Kill 678 different viruses and bacteria within 6 min. Colloidal Silver Truth

 
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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos
 Quoting: OrganicHealer



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.

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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

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YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.
 Quoting: The Commentator



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited
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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited
 Quoting: Lenny 1079555



If someone could demonstrate such a thing in a clinical setting and it worked I would be very happy indeed, but so far all we have is unsupported anecdote.

If your doctor wanted to give you a medicine or perform a surgery based on zero clinical evidence you would run like hell, but when some internet crackpot tells you something is good for you, you rush to defend it.

I do not understand your mindset.
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If you sneeze, can you make change?



silly boy
peace



Speaking of silly, you do know that antibiotics have NO effect on a virus, don't you?

Well, no, actually you don't.



not sure what side your on here, but, colloidal silver is really not antibiotics, its in a class of its own. Its not produced by or derived from certain fungi, bacteria, and other organisms.



You stated, in your original message:

"The colloidal silver kills 678 different viruses and bacteria within 6 min.
All antibiotics only treat 76 viruses and can leave the bugs stronger."


Which is incorrect, antibiotics have NO effect on a virus. If you can't get such simple facts correct how can the rest of your rather spammy message be trusted?


oops. sorry teach. the silver still works miracles



So you say, but you have yet to show any double blind, reputable studies to support your claim.

And the fact you claim that antibiotics are effective against viral disease is contradicted by nearly 70 years of antibiotic experience.

So, if you have the data you would show it, and since you don't your claims are, at best, unproven.

Oh yes, the plural of anecdote is not data.



No company does studies on unpatentable products because they can't recoup their money. FDA approval is too expensive. Just like with MMS. I used it and know it works. But there are no studies. We know it kills microbes and such because it's what water treatment plants use to do just that. It would be nice to have some double blind studies, but no company is going to shell out that kind of money for a cheap product that they can't have seller's protection for. We also know silver kills, that was why people used silver pitchers and put coins in liquids long ago. And my pool ionizer uses silver and copper ions to keep my pool clear.



Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.


Did you understand the point, though? You don't need studies for a product when the science already tells you what it does. It would be nice to have studies done for more exact dosing, maybe, but you generally only do double blind studies of drugs. And that's because you don't know a particular drug's effect on the human body beforehand. There is no science for a new drug.



You are using elemental silver as a substance to treat illness or disease, which makes it a drug by definition.

But you have no studies, you do not know the proper dosage, you do not know all the potential interations with other substances.

In short use of this material is not scientific, it is at its root a religious sacrament.
 Quoting: The Commentator


Hospitals would not use it on burn victims if there was no study.

your wrong mr shill all day long.

how much do you get paid to be a gov tard pharma whore shill?

if zero, then lol
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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited
 Quoting: Lenny 1079555


hes a gov tard pharma whore shill

shill for short
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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited



If someone could demonstrate such a thing in a clinical setting and it worked I would be very happy indeed, but so far all we have is unsupported anecdote.

If your doctor wanted to give you a medicine or perform a surgery based on zero clinical evidence you would run like hell, but when some internet crackpot tells you something is good for you, you rush to defend it.

I do not understand your mindset.
 Quoting: The Commentator


I want to make it perfectly clear that I think skepticism is a VERY GOOD THING. I believe you should question everything anyone on the internet tells you...HOWEVER, it is also good to take the information you find on sites like this and RESEARCH IT FURTHER. Don't just blindly take the advice of someone else. Do some homework first!

I am saying this because I learned about Oil of Oregano from GLP and I spent the next month researching it silly in the library, bookstores, and web. After that I found a reputable seller and bought a bottle of the stuff. Well guess what? I haven't been sick for 2 entire years. and I got sick roughly 8-12 times a year with various illnesses.

I relayed the information of Oil of Oregano to my father, as well. He was suffering with horrific acid reflux disease. And by the way, the stuff that he was using to treat it (unsuccessfully) Prilosec, was killing him. He ditched the Prilosec and started taking Oil of Oregano. Guess what? he's cured. not 10%. not 50%. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. He doesn't have debilitating stomach acid production anymore. He can eat normal foods and enjoy life. All because of this website.

I realize these stories are very anecdotal. I do not have double blind studies to back me up. What I do offer is honest-to-goodness truth. This oil of oregano has greatly improved my family's quality of life, and I have a random GLP poster to thank.

The point I am making is that you should not be so negative about a potential cure. DO RESEARCH
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Re: Never be Sick Again. Kill 678 different viruses and bacteria within 6 min. Colloidal Silver Truth
If you sneeze, can you make change?



silly boy
peace



Speaking of silly, you do know that antibiotics have NO effect on a virus, don't you?

Well, no, actually you don't.



not sure what side your on here, but, colloidal silver is really not antibiotics, its in a class of its own. Its not produced by or derived from certain fungi, bacteria, and other organisms.



You stated, in your original message:

"The colloidal silver kills 678 different viruses and bacteria within 6 min.
All antibiotics only treat 76 viruses and can leave the bugs stronger."


Which is incorrect, antibiotics have NO effect on a virus. If you can't get such simple facts correct how can the rest of your rather spammy message be trusted?


oops. sorry teach. the silver still works miracles



So you say, but you have yet to show any double blind, reputable studies to support your claim.

And the fact you claim that antibiotics are effective against viral disease is contradicted by nearly 70 years of antibiotic experience.

So, if you have the data you would show it, and since you don't your claims are, at best, unproven.

Oh yes, the plural of anecdote is not data.



No company does studies on unpatentable products because they can't recoup their money. FDA approval is too expensive. Just like with MMS. I used it and know it works. But there are no studies. We know it kills microbes and such because it's what water treatment plants use to do just that. It would be nice to have some double blind studies, but no company is going to shell out that kind of money for a cheap product that they can't have seller's protection for. We also know silver kills, that was why people used silver pitchers and put coins in liquids long ago. And my pool ionizer uses silver and copper ions to keep my pool clear.



Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.


Did you understand the point, though? You don't need studies for a product when the science already tells you what it does. It would be nice to have studies done for more exact dosing, maybe, but you generally only do double blind studies of drugs. And that's because you don't know a particular drug's effect on the human body beforehand. There is no science for a new drug.



You are using elemental silver as a substance to treat illness or disease, which makes it a drug by definition.

But you have no studies, you do not know the proper dosage, you do not know all the potential interations with other substances.

In short use of this material is not scientific, it is at its root a religious sacrament.


Hospitals would not use it on burn victims if there was no study.

your wrong mr shill all day long.

how much do you get paid to be a gov tard pharma whore shill?

if zero, then lol
 Quoting: OrganicHealer



How much do people pay you for your quackery?

Oh yes, if there are studies, cite them.

I would much rather be a shill for reality than a monger of quack cures which is what you are doing.
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Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
The Commentator

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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited


hes a gov tard pharma whore shill

shill for short
 Quoting: OrganicHealer



In short, you have nothing to use with which to defend your quackery so not you resort to name calling.

How typical of the monger of false cures!
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
The Commentator

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Re: Never be Sick Again. Kill 678 different viruses and bacteria within 6 min. Colloidal Silver Truth
Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited



If someone could demonstrate such a thing in a clinical setting and it worked I would be very happy indeed, but so far all we have is unsupported anecdote.

If your doctor wanted to give you a medicine or perform a surgery based on zero clinical evidence you would run like hell, but when some internet crackpot tells you something is good for you, you rush to defend it.

I do not understand your mindset.


I want to make it perfectly clear that I think skepticism is a VERY GOOD THING. I believe you should question everything anyone on the internet tells you...HOWEVER, it is also good to take the information you find on sites like this and RESEARCH IT FURTHER. Don't just blindly take the advice of someone else. Do some homework first!

I am saying this because I learned about Oil of Oregano from GLP and I spent the next month researching it silly in the library, bookstores, and web. After that I found a reputable seller and bought a bottle of the stuff. Well guess what? I haven't been sick for 2 entire years. and I got sick roughly 8-12 times a year with various illnesses.

I relayed the information of Oil of Oregano to my father, as well. He was suffering with horrific acid reflux disease. And by the way, the stuff that he was using to treat it (unsuccessfully) Prilosec, was killing him. He ditched the Prilosec and started taking Oil of Oregano. Guess what? he's cured. not 10%. not 50%. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. He doesn't have debilitating stomach acid production anymore. He can eat normal foods and enjoy life. All because of this website.

I realize these stories are very anecdotal. I do not have double blind studies to back me up. What I do offer is honest-to-goodness truth. This oil of oregano has greatly improved my family's quality of life, and I have a random GLP poster to thank.

The point I am making is that you should not be so negative about a potential cure. DO RESEARCH
 Quoting: Lenny 1079555



I have done the research, and there is no data that indicates CS does anything beneficial, much less the secret to disease free life.

Yes, silver ions in low concentration has utility, some central lines (look it up) used to be coated with a low concentration of silver to prevent infection, but it has been found that simply being scrupulous about aseptic method does a much better job at far lower cost. See [link to www.newyorker.com] for a good article aimed at the lay audience.

As for oregano curing anyone, how is that different from tens of thousands of anecdotes which may or may not contain useful information?

Last Edited by The Commentator on 08/25/2010 08:27 PM
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"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

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NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Papa Smurf's Penis.

But seriously, it makes a better fuel than food.
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your skin is gonna turn gray


If you really think that, then the powers that be tricked you well.

this video addresses that that old BS


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 Quoting: OrganicHealer

when i saw the blue man on opera w show as a guest years ago trying to scare people, then i was convinced this silver stuff must really work. have not tried it yet, but will soon.
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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited



If someone could demonstrate such a thing in a clinical setting and it worked I would be very happy indeed, but so far all we have is unsupported anecdote.

If your doctor wanted to give you a medicine or perform a surgery based on zero clinical evidence you would run like hell, but when some internet crackpot tells you something is good for you, you rush to defend it.

I do not understand your mindset.


I want to make it perfectly clear that I think skepticism is a VERY GOOD THING. I believe you should question everything anyone on the internet tells you...HOWEVER, it is also good to take the information you find on sites like this and RESEARCH IT FURTHER. Don't just blindly take the advice of someone else. Do some homework first!

I am saying this because I learned about Oil of Oregano from GLP and I spent the next month researching it silly in the library, bookstores, and web. After that I found a reputable seller and bought a bottle of the stuff. Well guess what? I haven't been sick for 2 entire years. and I got sick roughly 8-12 times a year with various illnesses.

I relayed the information of Oil of Oregano to my father, as well. He was suffering with horrific acid reflux disease. And by the way, the stuff that he was using to treat it (unsuccessfully) Prilosec, was killing him. He ditched the Prilosec and started taking Oil of Oregano. Guess what? he's cured. not 10%. not 50%. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. He doesn't have debilitating stomach acid production anymore. He can eat normal foods and enjoy life. All because of this website.

I realize these stories are very anecdotal. I do not have double blind studies to back me up. What I do offer is honest-to-goodness truth. This oil of oregano has greatly improved my family's quality of life, and I have a random GLP poster to thank.

The point I am making is that you should not be so negative about a potential cure. DO RESEARCH



I have done the research, and there is no data that indicates CS does anything beneficial, much less the secret to disease free life.

Yes, silver ions in low concentration has utility, some central lines (look it up) used to be coated with a low concentration of silver to prevent infection, but it has been found that simply being scrupulous about aseptic method does a much better job at far lower cost. See [link to www.newyorker.com] for a good article aimed at the lay audience.

As for oregano curing anyone, how is that different from tens of thousands of anecdotes which may or may not contain useful information?
 Quoting: The Commentator


Hey man, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm simply telling my tale. If you don't wanna take advantage of it, it's no skin off my nose. But maybe someone who isn't so closed-minded could use this info. I'm just passing it along. OoO has changed my life!
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It works for me. I don't need any studies, I have my own proof via self experimentation. Colloidal Silver made with distilled water should be in everybodies medicine cabinent.

They both work for me. Many health issues cleared up.

Buy an ultrasonic nebulizer to get deep penetration into the lungs.

I agree with everything that is said in the video. search for silver puppy and make your own. In a pinch 3 9v batteries in series with two silver american eagles will make CS that is very acceptable.

FDA's only job is to protect the profits of big Pharma. CS and MMS works.
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If you sneeze, can you make change?



silly boy
peace



Speaking of silly, you do know that antibiotics have NO effect on a virus, don't you?

Well, no, actually you don't.



not sure what side your on here, but, colloidal silver is really not antibiotics, its in a class of its own. Its not produced by or derived from certain fungi, bacteria, and other organisms.



You stated, in your original message:

"The colloidal silver kills 678 different viruses and bacteria within 6 min.
All antibiotics only treat 76 viruses and can leave the bugs stronger."


Which is incorrect, antibiotics have NO effect on a virus. If you can't get such simple facts correct how can the rest of your rather spammy message be trusted?


oops. sorry teach. the silver still works miracles



So you say, but you have yet to show any double blind, reputable studies to support your claim.

And the fact you claim that antibiotics are effective against viral disease is contradicted by nearly 70 years of antibiotic experience.

So, if you have the data you would show it, and since you don't your claims are, at best, unproven.

Oh yes, the plural of anecdote is not data.



No company does studies on unpatentable products because they can't recoup their money. FDA approval is too expensive. Just like with MMS. I used it and know it works. But there are no studies. We know it kills microbes and such because it's what water treatment plants use to do just that. It would be nice to have some double blind studies, but no company is going to shell out that kind of money for a cheap product that they can't have seller's protection for. We also know silver kills, that was why people used silver pitchers and put coins in liquids long ago. And my pool ionizer uses silver and copper ions to keep my pool clear.



Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.


Did you understand the point, though? You don't need studies for a product when the science already tells you what it does. It would be nice to have studies done for more exact dosing, maybe, but you generally only do double blind studies of drugs. And that's because you don't know a particular drug's effect on the human body beforehand. There is no science for a new drug.



You are using elemental silver as a substance to treat illness or disease, which makes it a drug by definition.

But you have no studies, you do not know the proper dosage, you do not know all the potential interations with other substances.

In short use of this material is not scientific, it is at its root a religious sacrament.
 Quoting: The Commentator



Dosages and interactions are easy enough to look up. There is enough info on both of these to treat yourself. Come on, though, religious sacrament? I took MMS because it kills invaders in my body, not because I thought it was godlike. And it worked.

I'll admit, I wouldn't have been the first to try it, but I know enough people personally who have used it and were pleased with the results - not online testimonies, but people I know who live here in the DR. This is what happens with effective treatments that can't be patented. Sure, there are some snake oil remedies that are crap, but these do what they are supposed to do: kill pests.

New drugs that have been synthesized in labs need to be tested on humans to see what will happen. MMS and silver have already been used by humans for years. I wish I knew about them before I did chemotherapy and almost died from it. Some drug's side effects are pretty horrendous compared to MMS and silver. I know from personal experience.

Doctors are fine for a crisis, but the medical profession's treatment of chronic diseases is a crock. Their treatment of symptoms rather than root causes is a money maker. The stuff that really works and is safe gets no attention.

Did you know that even the American Cancer Society only gives grants for patentable substances and that they want a piece of the patent? But they are taking public donations! They shouldn't be looking for only a "patentable" treatment, they should be looking for any treatment. But it says so right on their website. That pretty much sums up the whole "profit over safety and effectiveness" deal. Patents are everything to the medical profession. If a substance can't be patented, it won't be tested and used by the medical profession. But that doesn't mean we can't treat ourselves.

Maybe stupid people who can't do their homework and make good decisions should limit themselves to the medical profession. I went with them for years and they made me worse. So now I'm treating myself. Since I do my homework and I don't have profit in mind, it's working. If there was no internet, I would still be a bedridden train wreck.
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My Candida I had for 5 years or so was gone in 3 days after taking Colloidal silver.

My friends eye infection from mascara was gone in 3 hours after doing eye drops of colloidal silver.

I have not been sick in 2 years since taking colloidal silver.
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It works for me. I don't need any studies, I have my own proof via self experimentation. Colloidal Silver made with distilled water should be in everybodies medicine cabinent.

They both work for me. Many health issues cleared up.

Buy an ultrasonic nebulizer to get deep penetration into the lungs.

I agree with everything that is said in the video. search for silver puppy and make your own. In a pinch 3 9v batteries in series with two silver american eagles will make CS that is very acceptable.

FDA's only job is to protect the profits of big Pharma. CS and MMS works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1002171



+1

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Yes, silver ions in low concentration has utility, some central lines (look it up) used to be coated with a low concentration of silver to prevent infection, but it has been found that simply being scrupulous about aseptic method does a much better job at far lower cost. See [link to www.newyorker.com] for a good article aimed at the lay audience.

As for oregano curing anyone, how is that different from tens of thousands of anecdotes which may or may not contain useful information?
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I looked at the link but didn't see anything about burns or silver, only an article called The Checklist. I'd like to see it, though, if you can point me in the right direction.



I've used oil of oregano to kill of bad bacteria in the intestines. I know it worked because I did CDSA tests before and after. Bad bacteria are very difficult to kill once they take hold. When I had my sixty day experience with severe headaches, however, the OOE didn't do squat. The MMS did, though, in just a few days.

And watch out for Prilosec! You can't use it for too long. If you neutralize your stomach acid, it won't be there to kill bad bacteria and pests or digest your food. You won't know anything is wrong until your intestines are ruined and you become very ill.
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If you sneeze, can you make change?



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Speaking of silly, you do know that antibiotics have NO effect on a virus, don't you?

Well, no, actually you don't.



not sure what side your on here, but, colloidal silver is really not antibiotics, its in a class of its own. Its not produced by or derived from certain fungi, bacteria, and other organisms.



You stated, in your original message:

"The colloidal silver kills 678 different viruses and bacteria within 6 min.
All antibiotics only treat 76 viruses and can leave the bugs stronger."


Which is incorrect, antibiotics have NO effect on a virus. If you can't get such simple facts correct how can the rest of your rather spammy message be trusted?


oops. sorry teach. the silver still works miracles



So you say, but you have yet to show any double blind, reputable studies to support your claim.

And the fact you claim that antibiotics are effective against viral disease is contradicted by nearly 70 years of antibiotic experience.

So, if you have the data you would show it, and since you don't your claims are, at best, unproven.

Oh yes, the plural of anecdote is not data.



No company does studies on unpatentable products because they can't recoup their money. FDA approval is too expensive. Just like with MMS. I used it and know it works. But there are no studies. We know it kills microbes and such because it's what water treatment plants use to do just that. It would be nice to have some double blind studies, but no company is going to shell out that kind of money for a cheap product that they can't have seller's protection for. We also know silver kills, that was why people used silver pitchers and put coins in liquids long ago. And my pool ionizer uses silver and copper ions to keep my pool clear.



Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.


Did you understand the point, though? You don't need studies for a product when the science already tells you what it does. It would be nice to have studies done for more exact dosing, maybe, but you generally only do double blind studies of drugs. And that's because you don't know a particular drug's effect on the human body beforehand. There is no science for a new drug.



You are using elemental silver as a substance to treat illness or disease, which makes it a drug by definition.

But you have no studies, you do not know the proper dosage, you do not know all the potential interations with other substances.

In short use of this material is not scientific, it is at its root a religious sacrament.



Dosages and interactions are easy enough to look up. There is enough info on both of these to treat yourself. Come on, though, religious sacrament? I took MMS because it kills invaders in my body, not because I thought it was godlike. And it worked.

I'll admit, I wouldn't have been the first to try it, but I know enough people personally who have used it and were pleased with the results - not online testimonies, but people I know who live here in the DR. This is what happens with effective treatments that can't be patented. Sure, there are some snake oil remedies that are crap, but these do what they are supposed to do: kill pests.

New drugs that have been synthesized in labs need to be tested on humans to see what will happen. MMS and silver have already been used by humans for years. I wish I knew about them before I did chemotherapy and almost died from it. Some drug's side effects are pretty horrendous compared to MMS and silver. I know from personal experience.

Doctors are fine for a crisis, but the medical profession's treatment of chronic diseases is a crock. Their treatment of symptoms rather than root causes is a money maker. The stuff that really works and is safe gets no attention.

Did you know that even the American Cancer Society only gives grants for patentable substances and that they want a piece of the patent? But they are taking public donations! They shouldn't be looking for only a "patentable" treatment, they should be looking for any treatment. But it says so right on their website. That pretty much sums up the whole "profit over safety and effectiveness" deal. Patents are everything to the medical profession. If a substance can't be patented, it won't be tested and used by the medical profession. But that doesn't mean we can't treat ourselves.

Maybe stupid people who can't do their homework and make good decisions should limit themselves to the medical profession. I went with them for years and they made me worse. So now I'm treating myself. Since I do my homework and I don't have profit in mind, it's working. If there was no internet, I would still be a bedridden train wreck.
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silly boy
peace



Speaking of silly, you do know that antibiotics have NO effect on a virus, don't you?

Well, no, actually you don't.



not sure what side your on here, but, colloidal silver is really not antibiotics, its in a class of its own. Its not produced by or derived from certain fungi, bacteria, and other organisms.



You stated, in your original message:

"The colloidal silver kills 678 different viruses and bacteria within 6 min.
All antibiotics only treat 76 viruses and can leave the bugs stronger."


Which is incorrect, antibiotics have NO effect on a virus. If you can't get such simple facts correct how can the rest of your rather spammy message be trusted?


oops. sorry teach. the silver still works miracles



So you say, but you have yet to show any double blind, reputable studies to support your claim.

And the fact you claim that antibiotics are effective against viral disease is contradicted by nearly 70 years of antibiotic experience.

So, if you have the data you would show it, and since you don't your claims are, at best, unproven.

Oh yes, the plural of anecdote is not data.



No company does studies on unpatentable products because they can't recoup their money. FDA approval is too expensive. Just like with MMS. I used it and know it works. But there are no studies. We know it kills microbes and such because it's what water treatment plants use to do just that. It would be nice to have some double blind studies, but no company is going to shell out that kind of money for a cheap product that they can't have seller's protection for. We also know silver kills, that was why people used silver pitchers and put coins in liquids long ago. And my pool ionizer uses silver and copper ions to keep my pool clear.



Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.


Did you understand the point, though? You don't need studies for a product when the science already tells you what it does. It would be nice to have studies done for more exact dosing, maybe, but you generally only do double blind studies of drugs. And that's because you don't know a particular drug's effect on the human body beforehand. There is no science for a new drug.



You are using elemental silver as a substance to treat illness or disease, which makes it a drug by definition.

But you have no studies, you do not know the proper dosage, you do not know all the potential interations with other substances.

In short use of this material is not scientific, it is at its root a religious sacrament.



Dosages and interactions are easy enough to look up. There is enough info on both of these to treat yourself. Come on, though, religious sacrament? I took MMS because it kills invaders in my body, not because I thought it was godlike. And it worked.

I'll admit, I wouldn't have been the first to try it, but I know enough people personally who have used it and were pleased with the results - not online testimonies, but people I know who live here in the DR. This is what happens with effective treatments that can't be patented. Sure, there are some snake oil remedies that are crap, but these do what they are supposed to do: kill pests.

New drugs that have been synthesized in labs need to be tested on humans to see what will happen. MMS and silver have already been used by humans for years. I wish I knew about them before I did chemotherapy and almost died from it. Some drug's side effects are pretty horrendous compared to MMS and silver. I know from personal experience.

Doctors are fine for a crisis, but the medical profession's treatment of chronic diseases is a crock. Their treatment of symptoms rather than root causes is a money maker. The stuff that really works and is safe gets no attention.

Did you know that even the American Cancer Society only gives grants for patentable substances and that they want a piece of the patent? But they are taking public donations! They shouldn't be looking for only a "patentable" treatment, they should be looking for any treatment. But it says so right on their website. That pretty much sums up the whole "profit over safety and effectiveness" deal. Patents are everything to the medical profession. If a substance can't be patented, it won't be tested and used by the medical profession. But that doesn't mean we can't treat ourselves.

Maybe stupid people who can't do their homework and make good decisions should limit themselves to the medical profession. I went with them for years and they made me worse. So now I'm treating myself. Since I do my homework and I don't have profit in mind, it's working. If there was no internet, I would still be a bedridden train wreck.
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great testimonial.

i hope you stay well!

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5 stars op.

I totally cured myself of liver failure with Hulda Clark's treatment and MS by removing mercury with cilantro plus sunbaking.

neither of these treatments are advocated by doctors = drug dealers, for obvious reasons - they are almost free of charge.

Ur a saint for putting this out there OP. The people who don't like it can continue raping their dead grandmothers.
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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited



If someone could demonstrate such a thing in a clinical setting and it worked I would be very happy indeed, but so far all we have is unsupported anecdote.

If your doctor wanted to give you a medicine or perform a surgery based on zero clinical evidence you would run like hell, but when some internet crackpot tells you something is good for you, you rush to defend it.

I do not understand your mindset.


I want to make it perfectly clear that I think skepticism is a VERY GOOD THING. I believe you should question everything anyone on the internet tells you...HOWEVER, it is also good to take the information you find on sites like this and RESEARCH IT FURTHER. Don't just blindly take the advice of someone else. Do some homework first!

I am saying this because I learned about Oil of Oregano from GLP and I spent the next month researching it silly in the library, bookstores, and web. After that I found a reputable seller and bought a bottle of the stuff. Well guess what? I haven't been sick for 2 entire years. and I got sick roughly 8-12 times a year with various illnesses.

I relayed the information of Oil of Oregano to my father, as well. He was suffering with horrific acid reflux disease. And by the way, the stuff that he was using to treat it (unsuccessfully) Prilosec, was killing him. He ditched the Prilosec and started taking Oil of Oregano. Guess what? he's cured. not 10%. not 50%. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. He doesn't have debilitating stomach acid production anymore. He can eat normal foods and enjoy life. All because of this website.

I realize these stories are very anecdotal. I do not have double blind studies to back me up. What I do offer is honest-to-goodness truth. This oil of oregano has greatly improved my family's quality of life, and I have a random GLP poster to thank.

The point I am making is that you should not be so negative about a potential cure. DO RESEARCH



I have done the research, and there is no data that indicates CS does anything beneficial, much less the secret to disease free life.

Yes, silver ions in low concentration has utility, some central lines (look it up) used to be coated with a low concentration of silver to prevent infection, but it has been found that simply being scrupulous about aseptic method does a much better job at far lower cost. See [link to www.newyorker.com] for a good article aimed at the lay audience.

As for oregano curing anyone, how is that different from tens of thousands of anecdotes which may or may not contain useful information?


Hey man, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm simply telling my tale. If you don't wanna take advantage of it, it's no skin off my nose. But maybe someone who isn't so closed-minded could use this info. I'm just passing it along. OoO has changed my life!
 Quoting: Lenny 1079555



Not a matter of closed minded, it is a matter of neither accepting OR rejecting a claim on an a priori basis.

Now, do you accept or reject a claim without evidence? Hmmmm?

And, anecdote is not science, and science is what is being discussed.
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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited



If someone could demonstrate such a thing in a clinical setting and it worked I would be very happy indeed, but so far all we have is unsupported anecdote.

If your doctor wanted to give you a medicine or perform a surgery based on zero clinical evidence you would run like hell, but when some internet crackpot tells you something is good for you, you rush to defend it.

I do not understand your mindset.


I want to make it perfectly clear that I think skepticism is a VERY GOOD THING. I believe you should question everything anyone on the internet tells you...HOWEVER, it is also good to take the information you find on sites like this and RESEARCH IT FURTHER. Don't just blindly take the advice of someone else. Do some homework first!

I am saying this because I learned about Oil of Oregano from GLP and I spent the next month researching it silly in the library, bookstores, and web. After that I found a reputable seller and bought a bottle of the stuff. Well guess what? I haven't been sick for 2 entire years. and I got sick roughly 8-12 times a year with various illnesses.

I relayed the information of Oil of Oregano to my father, as well. He was suffering with horrific acid reflux disease. And by the way, the stuff that he was using to treat it (unsuccessfully) Prilosec, was killing him. He ditched the Prilosec and started taking Oil of Oregano. Guess what? he's cured. not 10%. not 50%. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. He doesn't have debilitating stomach acid production anymore. He can eat normal foods and enjoy life. All because of this website.

I realize these stories are very anecdotal. I do not have double blind studies to back me up. What I do offer is honest-to-goodness truth. This oil of oregano has greatly improved my family's quality of life, and I have a random GLP poster to thank.

The point I am making is that you should not be so negative about a potential cure. DO RESEARCH



I have done the research, and there is no data that indicates CS does anything beneficial, much less the secret to disease free life.

Yes, silver ions in low concentration has utility, some central lines (look it up) used to be coated with a low concentration of silver to prevent infection, but it has been found that simply being scrupulous about aseptic method does a much better job at far lower cost. See [link to www.newyorker.com] for a good article aimed at the lay audience.

As for oregano curing anyone, how is that different from tens of thousands of anecdotes which may or may not contain useful information?


Hey man, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm simply telling my tale. If you don't wanna take advantage of it, it's no skin off my nose. But maybe someone who isn't so closed-minded could use this info. I'm just passing it along. OoO has changed my life!



Not a matter of closed minded, it is a matter of neither accepting OR rejecting a claim on an a priori basis.

Now, do you accept or reject a claim without evidence? Hmmmm?

And, anecdote is not science, and science is what is being discussed.
 Quoting: The Commentator


Whatever dude. Say what you will. You're a Negative Nancy. GOODNIGHT.
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Thank you for your honesty, "there are no studies."

Case closed.



YOUR WRONG MR SHILL ALL DAY LONG

Watch the videos



Your wrong what? Guess your use of language is as defective as your "science."

And, proof by youtube is not proof at all, remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.



Why are you so negative about a potential bacteria and virus killer? I would think people would be excited



If someone could demonstrate such a thing in a clinical setting and it worked I would be very happy indeed, but so far all we have is unsupported anecdote.

If your doctor wanted to give you a medicine or perform a surgery based on zero clinical evidence you would run like hell, but when some internet crackpot tells you something is good for you, you rush to defend it.

I do not understand your mindset.


I want to make it perfectly clear that I think skepticism is a VERY GOOD THING. I believe you should question everything anyone on the internet tells you...HOWEVER, it is also good to take the information you find on sites like this and RESEARCH IT FURTHER. Don't just blindly take the advice of someone else. Do some homework first!

I am saying this because I learned about Oil of Oregano from GLP and I spent the next month researching it silly in the library, bookstores, and web. After that I found a reputable seller and bought a bottle of the stuff. Well guess what? I haven't been sick for 2 entire years. and I got sick roughly 8-12 times a year with various illnesses.

I relayed the information of Oil of Oregano to my father, as well. He was suffering with horrific acid reflux disease. And by the way, the stuff that he was using to treat it (unsuccessfully) Prilosec, was killing him. He ditched the Prilosec and started taking Oil of Oregano. Guess what? he's cured. not 10%. not 50%. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. He doesn't have debilitating stomach acid production anymore. He can eat normal foods and enjoy life. All because of this website.

I realize these stories are very anecdotal. I do not have double blind studies to back me up. What I do offer is honest-to-goodness truth. This oil of oregano has greatly improved my family's quality of life, and I have a random GLP poster to thank.

The point I am making is that you should not be so negative about a potential cure. DO RESEARCH



I have done the research, and there is no data that indicates CS does anything beneficial, much less the secret to disease free life.

Yes, silver ions in low concentration has utility, some central lines (look it up) used to be coated with a low concentration of silver to prevent infection, but it has been found that simply being scrupulous about aseptic method does a much better job at far lower cost. See [link to www.newyorker.com] for a good article aimed at the lay audience.

As for oregano curing anyone, how is that different from tens of thousands of anecdotes which may or may not contain useful information?


Hey man, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm simply telling my tale. If you don't wanna take advantage of it, it's no skin off my nose. But maybe someone who isn't so closed-minded could use this info. I'm just passing it along. OoO has changed my life!



Not a matter of closed minded, it is a matter of neither accepting OR rejecting a claim on an a priori basis.

Now, do you accept or reject a claim without evidence? Hmmmm?

And, anecdote is not science, and science is what is being discussed.


Whatever dude. Say what you will. You're a Negative Nancy. GOODNIGHT.
 Quoting: Lenny 1079555



So show me some reputable, repeatable, peer reviewed double blind studies showing your methods work and I will be a convert.

Can you do that?

I bet no. You will probably just scream a few insults and run away.

prove me wrong.
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OMG !! YOU CAN REALLY EAT SILVER !!
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So show me some reputable, repeatable, peer reviewed double blind studies showing your methods work and I will be a convert.

Can you do that?

I bet no. You will probably just scream a few insults and run away.

prove me wrong.
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Who would be able to do the studies? Economics prevents them from being done - nobody can afford to do them. You're asking for something as if it can possibly even be done.

I'm skeptical of most things, too. But I also happened to get incredibly ill and had to help myself. After a few years of doctors telling me it was all in my head, even though I couldn't walk or breathe properly, I eventually resorted to alternative methods and fixed myself. That's what has to happen for most people to find out that some of those methods actually work. But you really have to do your homework and pay particular attention to the science. And know what to use for what and when. Because you don't have the standard studies to go by. You're really on your own. Most people aren't able to come out of what I did. I know because I've been on lots of message boards explaining what to do but nobody believes it because it doesn't "sound right". In a nutshell, it's fix your intestines, but that's for another thread.


Why aren't you at all skeptical of the biggest gyp in town - the medical profession's treatment of chronic diseases? I'm talking about chronic conditions as opposed to a crisis like a heart attack, broken leg, appendicitis, etc. Regarding chronic conditions, they deliberately treat symptoms rather than solve the problem. That way, you are a repeat customer and a steady stream of income. If they "cured" you, you wouldn't come back. They are in the business of patents, not what is safe and effective or a cure. There is a difference, and it's monetary. Doctors and drugs kill lots of people and no one bats an eye. How can you completely trust their studies, anyway? Major conflict of interest.

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So show me some reputable, repeatable, peer reviewed double blind studies showing your methods work and I will be a convert.

Can you do that?

I bet no. You will probably just scream a few insults and run away.

prove me wrong.
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It's interesting that Johnson&Johnson offers a Band-Aid with silver in it. That's pretty mainstream, isn't it, Chesty?

They probably spent a lot of money researching that, and no way are they going to give that research away.

So, i tested it in real life. One amazing test is to put a few drops of colloidal silver in the water for fresh flowers. The slime NEVER grows.

From what i researched, it basically disables an oxygen processing switch and smothers bad bacteria and also viruses. Somehow, it knows the difference between the bad stuff and the good stuff and only kills the bad stuff.

I'm only reporting what i've seen with my own eyes. And, yes, we made our own CS with 9V batteries, distilled water (RODI is best) and a TDS (warning: do not go around testing every water source for ppm because you will scare yourself shitless).
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So show me some reputable, repeatable, peer reviewed double blind studies showing your methods work and I will be a convert.

Can you do that?

I bet no. You will probably just scream a few insults and run away.

prove me wrong.



Who would be able to do the studies? Economics prevents them from being done - nobody can afford to do them. You're asking for something as if it can possibly even be done.

I'm skeptical of most things, too. But I also happened to get incredibly ill and had to help myself. After a few years of doctors telling me it was all in my head, even though I couldn't walk or breathe properly, I eventually resorted to alternative methods and fixed myself. That's what has to happen for most people to find out that some of those methods actually work. But you really have to do your homework and pay particular attention to the science. And know what to use for what and when. Because you don't have the standard studies to go by. You're really on your own. Most people aren't able to come out of what I did. I know because I've been on lots of message boards explaining what to do but nobody believes it because it doesn't "sound right". In a nutshell, it's fix your intestines, but that's for another thread.


Why aren't you at all skeptical of the biggest gyp in town - the medical profession's treatment of chronic diseases? I'm talking about chronic conditions as opposed to a crisis like a heart attack, broken leg, appendicitis, etc. Regarding chronic conditions, they deliberately treat symptoms rather than solve the problem. That way, you are a repeat customer and a steady stream of income. If they "cured" you, you wouldn't come back. They are in the business of patents, not what is safe and effective or a cure. There is a difference, and it's monetary. Doctors and drugs kill lots of people and no one bats an eye. How can you completely trust their studies, anyway? Major conflict of interest.
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Who said I was NOT skeptical of many treatments offered by doctors? Can you point to where I said any such thing,m or are you assuming facts not in evidence.

And, since when did low cost mean low prices? Look at the outrageous prices charged for many "natural remedies" versus there very low cost to manufacture and deliver.

I respectfully suggest you are trying to defend an idea that has not been attacked.
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Who would be able to do the studies? Economics prevents them from being done - nobody can afford to do them. You're asking for something as if it can possibly even be done.

I'm skeptical of most things, too. But I also happened to get incredibly ill and had to help myself. After a few years of doctors telling me it was all in my head, even though I couldn't walk or breathe properly, I eventually resorted to alternative methods and fixed myself. That's what has to happen for most people to find out that some of those methods actually work. But you really have to do your homework and pay particular attention to the science. And know what to use for what and when. Because you don't have the standard studies to go by. You're really on your own. Most people aren't able to come out of what I did. I know because I've been on lots of message boards explaining what to do but nobody believes it because it doesn't "sound right". In a nutshell, it's fix your intestines, but that's for another thread.


Why aren't you at all skeptical of the biggest gyp in town - the medical profession's treatment of chronic diseases? I'm talking about chronic conditions as opposed to a crisis like a heart attack, broken leg, appendicitis, etc. Regarding chronic conditions, they deliberately treat symptoms rather than solve the problem. That way, you are a repeat customer and a steady stream of income. If they "cured" you, you wouldn't come back. They are in the business of patents, not what is safe and effective or a cure. There is a difference, and it's monetary. Doctors and drugs kill lots of people and no one bats an eye. How can you completely trust their studies, anyway? Major conflict of interest.
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Doctors are the third leading cause of death...right behind big pharma and lobbyists.
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5 stars op.

I totally cured myself of liver failure with Hulda Clark's treatment and MS by removing mercury with cilantro plus sunbaking.

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Never be Sick Again. Kill 678 different viruses and bacteria within 6 min. Colloidal Silver Truth
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I had a low grade prostate infection that would not go away. I was given three different antibiotics. The infection would always come back. I went to two different doctors & then a urologist. He wanted to put me on antibiotics FOREVER! After that visit I did a lot of research & decided I wanted to try Silver colloids. I purchased the SG6 silver generator from a company called Silver gen( I hope its OK to post the campany name- it's my first post on GLP). The SG6 has a built in stirrer and has worked well for me.
Long story short- My infection diminished in a week or two & has not returned in the last 4 months since I started the silver colloids.
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Vance
Below is information from their website:

"Is your generator a constant voltage device?". If they answer "Yes" then you will be getting an uncontrollable device. It doesn't matter if the voltage is provided by a transformer/rectifier or batteries. Constant voltage generators are rudimentary and you will probably be unhappy with the device in the long run.
The problem is this. Distilled water is a fairly good insulator. With a constant voltage connected to silver electrodes in distilled water, the initial current flow is very low because the water has high resistance to electron flow. However, as the silver ions and particles finally do start to accumulate in the water, the resistance in the water goes down from the conductive silver content now building up.

All the silver is coming off the anode (positive electrode) as ions (single atoms, missing an electron). They carry a positive electrical charge because of the lack of that electron. However some of them are able to connect together and share an electron in their outer ring. When this happens they are then locked together and no longer carry an electrical charge. They are then called a colloid (a cluster of 2 or more atoms).

The ions are dissolved into the water just as salt or sugar will dissolve in water. The water becomes conductive because of the ions. This causes the current flow to increase and as a consequence, the silver particles begin to increase in size (they attract more ions to themselves, like a growing snowball.) As more silver is torn from the electrodes, the process is accelerated until one has to stop the process because the particles become so large they begin to fall out of suspension.

One way to prevent this is to quickly separate the ions from each other so they do not share an electron ring. It is done by stirring the water to disperse them. This can be done by mechanical stirring, thermal heating or bubbling air through the water. All these methods will do the job but there are some drawbacks to thermal and bubbling methods. Thermal stirring works best in lower volumes of water. It is not advisable to use any heat system that warms the water too much since that will contribute to an increase in particle size. As an example it is alright to use a small wattage light bulb under the production vessel but it would not be appropriate to use a larger volume container and place it on a hotplate because the water would become too warm before the process was complete. There would be a preponderance of large colloids and the water would most likely turn yellow colored from the large particles. If the particles grow large enough to reflect light, yellow will be the first color seen.

Using a bubbler can introduce carbon dioxide into the water. It can also pump any dust in the air through the water. On average there are about 10,000 dust particles per cubic foot of air at floor level. That number decreases as you move up but nevertheless the air is "dirty". One can also introduce gasses from the tubing and pump if it is manufactured from low grade plastic.

We use mechanical stirring because it does not introduce any contaminants and is completely controllable instead of relying on variables such as water temperature and/or quality of air being pumped. We use an electric motor in the SG6 Auto and a submersible pump in the SG7 Pro.

If the particles of silver are truly colloidal, they will be suspended in the water because they are not heavy enough to sink to the bottom of the vessel. Larger particles are too heavy to remain suspended, so they fall to the bottom of the vessel. So, uniformity of size is VERY important. Most manufacturers do not tell you this fact because their generators are not capable of making SMALL, uniform size particles except for brief periods of time. That is, only so long as the current flow is LOW. That is why some manufacturers tell you to put salt in the water at the start and run the unit for a few minutes only. Adding salt to the water increases the conductivity of the water which gets the reaction started quickly. You are then told to run the unit for only a short period of time because they know the reaction will be too violent if left to run very long. This is not good. Salt in the water creates silver chloride. What we want are pure silver colloidal particles and silver ions.

Our generators produce about 85-95% ionic silver and the balance is colloidal. The colloidal portion is what you see when you look at the electron microscope pictures on our website. The ions are too small to be seen with the microscope. Most researchers and experts are convinced it is the ions that do the most effective healing. The ions have the ability to initiate stem cell growth which leads to rapid healing.

Using salt in the water creates two or more silver products; a chloride and a colloid. Even more chlorides can be produced, depending on what was in the salt. As you may know, sea salt contains almost all minerals known to man. This is because all streams and rivers flow into the sea and carry the minerals they come in contact with into the sea. And that is why the sea water is mineralized. When one dries seawater to get the salt from it, they have a representative sample of what has flowed into the sea. The salt is composed of all the minerals the fresh water has picked up during its travel to the ocean. So, you can see using sea salt would be the worst material you could use to make the water conductive. These minerals would combine with the silver to form many different silver chlorides. That is NOT what we want. We want only ionic silver, colloidal particles and pure water to be in the final product.

The colloidal particles tend to stay equidistant from each other in the dispersion. This is caused by what is called Brownian motion. The water is always in slight motion and since the particles are so small they do not sink but are continually moving around in the water. They tend to then be equally dispersed throughout the water. The colloids can be seen by directing a strong, narrow beam of light through the suspension. The beam of light will reflect the light off the silver particles and it will appear as a foggy beam. With the light off, the dispersion will be quite clear. The best way to see this effect is to use a laser beam. The small pocket models work quite well for this purpose. If you use a flashlight, try to do it in the dark and you will get the best result. This is called the Tyndall effect.

Most units on the market today use a voltage source which is usually between 27 and 36 volts D.C. This can be supplied easily by using either 3 or 4 - 9 volt batteries in series to produce the voltage. This is not a problem. In fact it can be very useful because the generator can be used anywhere at anytime and not be dependent on the electrical power system. If one is on an outing, boating, traveling or living where house wall current is not available, it can be a boon to have a battery powered unit.

The problem with the battery powered units and most of those powered from the wall current is, the voltage is not reduced as silver is released from the electrodes. This causes the silver to be released from the electrodes at a faster and faster rate as the water becomes more conductive. By reducing the voltage as the water becomes more conductive the current remains the same and the particle size is kept constant. This is what we strive for when making colloidal silver.

What is the proper way to make colloidal silver? It is to use a power source that can reduce the voltage in order to maintain current flow at a preset maximum value. This is called a constant current source. Remember, the voltage only makes the current flow. It is the current that makes the silver particles come off the electrodes. If the current is too low, no silver particles will be formed and if there is too much current flow, the particles will be too large and will not be colloidal. It is a tricky combination.

We at SilverGen have one of the only colloidal silver generators on the market which uses a constant current source. Our top of the line model SG6 Auto has a built in stirring motor to eliminate agglomeration and also has an automatic shutoff circuit and a variable PPM control so you can just set it for the strength you want and when the light goes out it's ready to use. No clip leads or external electrodes to bother with.

The SG7 Pro uses the same technology carried one step further. It can produce CS 30 times more quickly than the SG6 Auto. It also produces 5 gallons at a time rather than a pint, quart or half gallon. It is the generator of choice if you want large volumes of the finest Ionic/colloidal silver that can be produced.

We prefer to not sell the colloidal silver liquid because we feel it is better for you to make it yourself. Having a colloid generator is an investment for your well being that is much better than having to search for the colloidal silver when you need it. And you can make it any strength you want. Generally, when you buy colloidal silver water, you never can tell the strength of the solution or what other products may have gone into making the product.

After looking at all the information regarding colloidal silver generators, you may have come to the conclusion that they are mostly all the same as far as operation. In most cases, what you get for your money is a box with three or four 9 volt batteries connected in series with a switch to turn it on, a light bulb in the circuit which will light up if the terminals are accidentally touched together (it acts as a fuse which won't blow in case of a short circuit), a couple of leads with clips and two silver electrodes which in most cases are small gauge silver wires. You really don't get very much for the amount of money you pay.

Our generators are NOT battery operated. They work off regular house current and have electronic circuitry which allows our units to make ionic/colloidal silver which is uniform in particle size and is consistent. Our SG6 Auto generators contain a printed circuit board, transformer, full wave bridge rectifier, diodes, resistors, capacitors, transistors, a stirring motor and other electronic components. In addition, our electrodes are 1/4 inch wide and 5 inches long and are made of 28 gauge .9999 fine silver. They have about 2 1/2 times the surface area of the wire electrodes supplied by others. This reduces current density by the same factor, resulting in smaller particles.

Our SG7 Pro unit is considerably more sophisticated and uses many more electronic components than the smaller models. Not only does it use constant current but it uses a timing circuit and switching relay to reverse the electrode polarity at regular intervals. This allows the electrodes to be self cleaning which is just one more advanced feature not found on other units. Normally the cathode (negative electrode) will attract some of the positively charged silver from the water during production. This buildup or coating acts as an insulator and will impede the process unless it is removed. By reversing the polarity any buildup is repelled from the negative electrodes when they become positive in charge. The elemental silver will then fall to the bottom of the vessel because it is not colloidal and is too heavy to stay suspended. You will not have to stop the process to clean the electrodes with the SG7 Pro even if you were to make 50 gallons at one time. This is a wonderful feature.

What we offer is a "constant current" generator. Battery operated units are basically a "constant voltage" device. What this all means can be broken into two explanations.

Constant current and constant voltage generators. What's good and bad about them.

You may also have noticed that other manufacturers seem to have different techniques for making the colloidal silver. They may ask you to add salt, heat the water, throw the solution out if it becomes muddy and start over, run the unit for short periods of time only and other requirements. None of this is necessary if one uses a "constant current" generator. All the variables are accounted for automatically.

If the water is warm, the initial constant current will be reached a bit sooner than if cold water was used and timing may start a bit earlier. The water temperature will not control timing or strength of the solution once the target current is reached. Target current is low, so it takes very little time before the colloidal particles are being formed.

Salt is unnecessary and is a detriment to proper operation. NEVER use salt. It will produce silver chloride which is a silver salt. We are looking for the metallic silver particles and ionic silver only. A constant current generator will make ONLY electrically charged ionic particles and metallic colloids and it does NOT need additives to start the process.

Proper timing is necessary to produce the quantity of silver in solution but it is NOT necessary to stop the current flow after a short period of time as most units require. Using those battery powered units, which are constant voltage generators are the equivalent of driving an automobile with the gas pedal stuck to the floor. They will run away with you and are uncontrollable. Constant current puts you back in control. Don't settle for less than the best.

Thanks for taking the time to read this far. Please see the "TECHNICAL" page for complete information on the difference between constant current and constant voltage generators. It will open your eyes to the problems associated with constant voltage.

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