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All human beings are born spiritually Dead

 
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All human beings are born spiritually Dead
All mankind is born dead in their sins from infant, without a supernatural work of God the unregenerate man can't be made regenerate. There is ample proof that this Calvinistic doctrine is biblically sound.



1. The Unregenerate are Spiritually Dead



In Genesis 2 God told Adam that if he ate the forbidden fruit, that very day he would most certainly die (vs. 16-17). In this passage Jehovah was speaking of spiritual death which refers to the dissolution of man’s union with God and its consequences. In Romans 5:12 and following Paul says that because of Adam’s sin spiritual death spread to the whole human race. In Ephesians the apostle says that everyone (except Christians who have been born again or made [spiritually] alive by God) is dead. “And you He made alive, who were once dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we [Christians] all once conducted ourselves in the lust of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature the children of wrath, just as the others. But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)” (2:1-5, cf. Col. 2:13).

In this passage Paul makes it clear that everyone who is spiritually dead is a slave of sin, the flesh or the corrupt human nature. All persons who are spiritually dead are in a state of subjection to Satan and live in a continual state of condemnation. Not only their specific sins, but their very nature makes them “children of wrath.” The apostle also teaches that spiritual death is the universal state of all men apart from Christ. According to God’s infallible Word the state of spiritual death can only be remedied by a direct act of God upon the human heart, a spiritual quickening. This fact is totally at odds with the common modern evangelical notion that unregenerate man has the ability to choose Christ. According to Paul regeneration must precede saving faith.

Paul, under divine inspiration, used the word “dead” for a reason. There is no middle ground between being alive and being dead. Unregenerate men are not just sick, handicapped or impaired but dead. Clark writes “A certain Bible professor, whom I knew only too well, explained to his classes that man was spiritually sick, that Christ had provided the remedy in the corner store, and that we must drag ourselves there, take the medicine and so regain our health. This is utterly unscriptural and anti-Christian. The Bible in many places tells sinners that they are dead and must be resurrected. No medicine in a drug store ever brought a dead man back to life.”[20] Obviously, a man who is spiritually dead can no more see spiritual truth or choose Christ than a rotting corpse can play tennis or debate philosophy. A Christian can quote Scripture and speak the gospel to an unsaved person from morning until late in the evening. But if the gospel message is not accompanied by the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit that person will not believe. “You may use all human persuasion possible, but you cannot give spiritual life where death reigns. God alone, by a creative act, can bring life out of death. Spiritual arguments to an unregenerate man are only warm clothes to a corpse.”[21] “If a man is dead spiritually, therefore, it is surely equally as evident that he is unable to perform any spiritual actions, and thus the doctrine of man’s moral [or spiritual] inability rests upon strong Scriptural evidence.”



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Psemeni

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Re: All human beings are born spiritually Dead
All mankind is born dead in their sins from infant, without a supernatural work of God the unregenerate man can't be made regenerate.
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That's just vile.
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"We just walked right through all the stones, all the bottles, and whatever they threw. We have won a major Victory."

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Mustis

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07/30/2010 08:29 PM
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I wont write anything..I wont write anything...*facepalm*



It is okay to have pride in your own accomplishments. Christianity teaches submission just like Islam which will stagnate progress of mankind....

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Your whacked and been listening to some religious freeks Mr. Dogma.
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Re: All human beings are born spiritually Dead
Wrong every soul born has lived before THIS post trying to DECIEVE GENTILES.
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Re: All human beings are born spiritually Dead
total Bull shit...
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The bible was edited and published by the people in power.
How could you be so naive?
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Such a strange religion, does not make any sense at all.
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All mankind is born dead in their sins from infant, without a supernatural work of God the unregenerate man can't be made regenerate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038358


Ignorance at it's worst!!
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Last Edited by HardTruth on 07/30/2010 09:23 PM
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The inheritance of Sin, what a way to chisel away at someones self-esteem...!
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Re: All human beings are born spiritually Dead
Hey Anonymous Coward User ID: 1038358! WRONG.

Do you think for yourself, or do you use a sacred book, like a book of spells, to whip up your thinking for you???

Do you use passages from sacred books and read them out to people, as if pulling out a magic trick from your stale fortune cookie?

YOU ARE NOT THINKING FOR YOURSELF!! If you believe in Jesus Christ, what you display is the reason He got pissed off and tipped the tables over at the temple--because people were BLIND to the truth and were stuck on stupid following DOGMA. They were doing what the government asked them to (change their unacceptable coins to the coins that had a MAN's name declaring himself as GOD). And with that coin they would buy an unmarked sheep to have sacrificed at the temple. They did that not even UNDERSTANDING nor realizing how stupid they were for doing this. They didn't even know why there were there--because if they did, why the hell did they PURCHASE an unmarked clean lamb with the MARK OF ANOTHER GOD on the coin they purchased it with!

YOU ARE NOT THINKING FOR YOURSELF!!! You are throwing up, like a dog, and you can eat your words like a dog will eat its vomit (you must know this piece of scripture).

Here is something you can think about--and check, double check--peruse every resource you have, pull out any passage you have--

You say human beings are born spiritually dead. THIS IS UNTRUE. Why? Because all spirit is ETERNAL. There is NO turn on switch for the spirit. It doesn't START at any particular moment. It doesn't END. It is eternal.

Do you THINK for one minute Jesus just popped in and His spirit ONLY started the day He was kicking in Mary's belly when Elizabeth had John kicking in hers at the same time (John the Baptist was in her belly)? (Mary and Elizabeth were pregnant at the same time, and when they met, John the Baptist jumped in Elizabeth's belly because John was in the presence of Jesus. This passage indicates that prior to birth, there is spirit recognized in the womb as spoken of, by this story, in the bible.)

Also:

ETERNAL means WE ALL HAVE ALWAYS BEEN in spirit. Some in darkness, some in Light.
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iamwith
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Re: All human beings are born spiritually Dead
The OP has never held a newborn baby in their arms.
 Quoting: DrPostman




That is a lie, and the usual humanistic response. All children are born dead in their sins spiritually, if they were to die physically while still being children and they are under the age of accountability God will not send them to eternal death.

If however they are past the age of accountability they are held accountable, just like you and me.

The proof is in the scriptures folks, I am just the messenger.


Colossians 2:13-15 (New King James Version)
13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.



The ONLY way your sin gets nailed to that cross is if you are saved, if not then his sacrifice doesn't apply to you.
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The ONLY way your sin gets nailed to that cross is if you are saved...
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And this is foul.
Post 7/11/10--

"We just walked right through all the stones, all the bottles, and whatever they threw. We have won a major Victory."

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Anonymous Coward
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LOL

this guy believes babies will burn in hell. Amazing.

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