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Zetatalk Exposed

 
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I received this message in my inbox today at Nancy lieders site poleshift.ning.com
Dear friends,
What I am about to tell you is very difficult. A few months ago someone posted a video on here of a camera tied to a balloon that, according to Nancy, the Zeta's said captured planet x. I knew this was a lens flare the second I saw it and expected Nancy and the Zetas to realize the same. Needless to say I was quite shocked when they said it was real.
At that moment, after years of following Nancy and ZT, I felt crushed and disillusioned. I believed everything out of this woman's mouth. Now, I believe nothing she has to say. I'm sure that most of you are probably aware by now that Nancy has been using ZT to badmouth her enemy's. According to Nancy, former moderator of this site, Cheryl Nelson is having a nervous breakdown and is STS in nature. According to her the zetas have also stated that those joining Cheryl's Ning site are STS.
I decided I had to put Nancy and her Zeta's to the test. Thanks to a talented friend of mine, I planted a photo on here this week that supposedly captured px. This photo was confirmed to be the real thing by the Zeta's...at least thats what Nancy said. The photo was not real...it
was photo shopped. This link will take you to the original photo - with NO PX in it!
[link to www.livingbeing.com]

How long has Nancy being lying to us and using ZT to back up those lies? Has she ever been in contact with them? I believe the answer is yes, but they turned their back on her a long time ago. The real question is why? Were they done with her? Had she served them well in their hidden agenda to exterminate the human race under this falsehood of benevolent beings come to save us? Or was it that she had failed them and proven to be a self serving liar and they truly are these wonderful beings? If this is the case, then why didn't they see her for who she is? Did they not read her mind? For that matter, why did they not stop me from exposing their alleged emissary?
I hope that at least some of you will think twice before blindly following another.
This weeks Zetalies: [link to zetatalk.com]
I will post a side by side comparison of the two photos at [link to earthchanges.ning.com]

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Nancy has never been more than a puppet to the master puppeteers, the reptilian hybrids that control OUR solar system and rule us with mind control and propaganda.
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07/31/2010 09:59 PM
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PX was supposed to be here 2003 according to NL. She lied then and she keeps on lying and scamming people.
Nothing but a thief and a con artist.
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07/31/2010 10:12 PM
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Grow up kids. Go home and discuss it with Mom.

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07/31/2010 10:13 PM
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Back in the early 2000's, I posted images that in no way shape or form contained any rogue planet...they were images taken by me of common lens flares that I intentionally made to test Nancy. I posted them annonymously asking Nancy if they were planet x. Not to my surprise, she stated that they were, and in fact many of them exist today on her web site as examples of pictures of "planet x". I know several others besides myself who did the same thing with the same results. SHE claimed they were indeed px and posted them on her own website...where they still exist today.

Folks, you're going to have to come to the reality that this woman is a total and complete sham and always has been.
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07/31/2010 10:20 PM
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How long has Nancy being lying to us and using ZT to back up those lies? Has she ever been in contact with them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974108


The fact is that Nancy (whether in the guise of speaking for the "zetas" or as herself) has never once gotten a single astronomical claim or prediction correct. NOT ONE. I have been making the challenge for years for any of her followers to find one and back it up with evidence NOT from her own web site or that she didn't write herself. To date, not one follower has ever been able to meet the challenge.

The challenge still stands for any takers.
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07/31/2010 10:26 PM
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careful people, she has the backing of '' O/ the great abraham soul walking[taking over his body] '' she could send the FBI or CIA on you...
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07/31/2010 10:29 PM
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careful people, she has the backing of '' O/ the great abraham soul walking[taking over his body] '' she could send the FBI or CIA on you...
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Oh, you mean like when the imaginary "zetas" stated that Obama wouldn't even get the Democratic nomination?
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Had to change your subject line. Subject lines that attack
members by name aren't allowed here.
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No problem.
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careful people, she has the backing of '' O/ the great abraham soul walking[taking over his body] '' she could send the FBI or CIA on you...


Oh, you mean like when the imaginary "zetas" stated that Obama wouldn't even get the Democratic nomination?
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[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"Obama will have a catalyst effect on the race, but will not, obviously, win. He is black. He has Muslim roots. The Democratic party will not allow itself to risk losing in this manner."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"Obama would like to offer Richardson the job of Secretary of State, but does not want to make enemies of the Clintons. By having a discussion with Hillary, wherein she is told she has the job but must be vetted (and this must include Bill's activities), Obama has made her an offer she cannot accept. Due to the deliberate publicity around this discussion, she will be publically seen as having been given the job and having refused. Thus, when Richardson takes the job, this will not be seen as an affront to her or Bill."
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Its allways fun to push lies forward and sell stuff.

Monetary system makes sometimes someone greedy, who lie to get money. Its fun so long after you are caught from lie. If there was not enough speak about exposion, then lies can continue because less knows, more buys.
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Here are just a few of her failed "zetatalk" predictions and claims:

"The Zetas have commented on Hale-Bopp since it first hit the press in mid-1995. They have stated that Hale-Bopp is a fraud, designed to get the populace looking in the wrong direction, not toward Orion." – Date unknown

"We know that the 12th Planet will make its passage in late spring or early summer of the year 2003 because we are observing the planet approaching your solar system." – Date unknown

"We have given the correct dates for the return of the 12th Planet as the year 2003 for the devastating first pass. All other dates are incorrect." – Date unknown

"Thus, you have Planet X in the news, under every subject but the inbound planet that will pass on May 15, 2003 or shortly thereafter." – June 2002

"Since the inception of ZetaTalk, the passage with rotation stoppage and pole shift has been described as occurring ´shortly after May 15, 2003.´" – Date unknown

"By May 15th, it will be utterly clear that earth changes are in process, most humans walking about in shock, numb. There will be no debate about a mistake. We have stated that the rotation will stop for approximately a week." – Date unknown

"Slowing rotation is so pronounced that even those not aware of the prediction are noticing their clocks minutes slow, on a regular basis, from ´official´ time." – March 22, 2003

"...nor will the war progress to the point where a regime change occurs." – Commenting on Iraq, March 22, 2003

"In short, they are not heeding the warnings of the Council, so stronger measures will shortly be taken. These measures will be, like the Columbia disaster, of a magnitude to stop the onslaught of the invasion as though the breath had been taken out of the body." – Commenting on Iraq, March 22, 2003

"We have stated that Planet X will be visible in the daytime sky, 7 weeks before passage. Given that we have stated that passage is shortly after May 15, 2003, as at this time those wanting to survive should be at their safe locations, this is putting the visibility into the last week of March at the earliest." – March 2003

"Since we were precise about the dates, even the number of hours for rotation stoppage (5.9 days) [on the Loud Gentile show], we have no problem with being precise on the meaning of the Pole Shift date as May 27." – May 16, 2003

"On this date, May 30, 2003 the Earth is poised to experience great quakes and stretching of rifts, so that discussions of the exact date of rotation stoppage or the shift will be replaced by frantic efforts to deal with one disaster after another." – May 30, 2003

"You have only weeks not months" – July 20, 2003

"We have stated that Planet X would travel the span of Saturn’s orbit in 3 short months. In that Planet X has been visible to the naked eye since the very last days in March..." – August 28, 2003

"But at the current time, by late August, there is no question that the Planet X complex has arrived between the Earth and Sun..." – August 28, 2003

"Despite loud evidence that Planet X has arrived..." – September 21, 2003

"Given the increasingly obvious fact that Planet X is in the vicinity and not going away before trashing the neighborhood..." – October 11, 2003

"Those not willing or able to make changes in their lives before the Holidays may find the Holidays possible, but just barely, as the next sweeping arm of the Sun will put all doubt aside." – November 15, 2003

"The last arm swept by Earth around Dec 25, the next expected by the anxious humans watching the drama to start around Feb 9, 2004." – January 30, 2004

"The Earth´s dark twin, approaching from behind her, has scant months to reach her and create a crisis. Earth stopping on Dec 25 allows for a full half orbit by this twin by June 25, 2004, but the crisis will occur sooner and for many reasons. This twin cannot go to the left, where Venus lies, nor the right, where Mars rides, and cannot move forward. The effect of such a traffic jam is not within man’s knowledge bank." – April 2004

"Certain death on the International Space Station lies ahead for any who would remain there during the coming weeks." – December 10, 2004

"If fireballs have been an occasional entertainment, they will soon become a daily affair almost everywhere" – February 4, 2005

"The Earth is now coming into a similar period, when the N Pole of Planet X is swinging, slowing, around to point away from the Sun for the 3 days of darkness time those in the northern hemisphere of Earth will inevitably experience." – November 17, 2005
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How long has Nancy being lying to us and using ZT to back up those lies? Has she ever been in contact with them? I believe the answer is yes, but they turned their back on her a long time ago. The real question is why? Were they done with her? Had she served them well in their hidden agenda to exterminate the human race under this falsehood of benevolent beings come to save us? Or was it that she had failed them and proven to be a self serving liar and they truly are these wonderful beings? If this is the case, then why didn't they see her for who she is? Did they not read her mind? For that matter, why did they not stop me from exposing their alleged emissary?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974108


They didn't care about exposion, because what if there is not Zetas. What if whole thing is around like many times around greys. (Nancy sells in her site much of Zeta stuff)

What if greys are just greys like we humans are humans. Just like that and there never was Zetas. Zeta was just hole to sell stuff to people, like bible story. Just messed up with scifi type, strange E.T people waiting and coming to save you to make story interesting and amazing.

They are visiting right now on earth, talking with different people, so they are allready here, but because much of violent and ignorant people roaming on earth, they can't suddendly come with spaceships on earth because that would make bible people think that JESUS COMING BACK!!!!

Bible people see signs everywhere. LOOK JESUS FACE IN YOUR FACE!!!! Pray this person, he is great lord of our, let him give us light.... Yoda, yoda, yoda, yoda.....
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People make lot of stories and i don't have no idea, before i meet these beings, who are not human biologically.

One of interesting stories from ones.

Arcturians and nordics. I would like to meet these ones face to face to see are they real or just make up stories around greys. Nordics of course aren't greys but i would like to know is that also make up story. Nordics story actually starts from Nazi germany and Nordics should be some nazis by story.

Arcturians should be somekind blueish grey.
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08/01/2010 12:38 AM
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So far this is the sad attempt of one of her mods to debunk.
By claiming the person is making it all up. There are links provided that that show the photo touched and untouched. I think he actually thinks this will work. Sad thing is, it probably will for some of devotees.

From Alex Rubsam to Jezz, Alesiah, Allan Marimootoo, Barbara Wozniak, Beenthdonedatand 41 more
Sent 1 hour ago

If you're going to make this claim, back it up with the video, the person who photoshopped it, the camera you used, etc. Back it up!! Don't just jump in and claim it's real, then run off! For god's sake, why do you feel the need to "trick" the Zetas? There are those on this site who would grow insecure due to your claims, and lead them astray. This is no place for your petty debunking. Anybody can say anything to anybody and get away with it. That is the nature of the internet. So please stop.
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Trick Zetas, wtf, they have spaceship with timings, you can't trick zetas if they are real. ZERIOUSLY ZWEIDZY.

Im sure they don't know how spaceships works if they say Zetas can be tricked.

If they was getting real info from extraterrestrials, they would get much more better information what makes more sense. Calculatings and so on, because that's what people do when they advance socially and technically.

They got starmap and so on, more better, because more things is mapped in starmap. We are doing now on earth somekind own starmap and there is some stars allready there and we can calculate their speed and everything in one second.

Many abductees has told about starmap and other interesting things.

These Zetas if they are real, must be driving in somekind ship where is just windows and they all sitting around table meditating and sending messages to humans. Sometimes flying around earth flashing lights, we here, we here and then drive back to space sending new messages of coming catastrophies.

From zeta: Sorry but many of you will die in catastrophe of nibiru and maybe all of you die and you will be, message ended... (What, will be, dam, i want to know end)
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This link will take you to the original photo - with NO PX in it!
[link to www.livingbeing.com]


This weeks Zetalies: [link to zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974108


O-Tone Nancy: "This is a genuine capture of Planet X on film, in the Monster Sun category."

lmao
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She's claimed that about many of the images I posted to her that are certainly NOT px but lens flares that she STILL has posted on her web site as being "genuine pictures of planet x".

How deceitful.
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The spin continues. This time Nancy is claiming Jezz is lying. Jezz provided a link that shows the photo was grabbed from another site. [link to www.livingbeing.com]
The only thing Jezz lied about was the doctored image containing a fake PX. Also Jezz sent out an email to all the people on her friend list confessing...so exactly how was it not Jezz? Was her computer hijacked? Oh Oh, I just gave Nancy a new spin...watch for it in next weeks Zetatalk.


This is from Nancy:

This is NOT Jezz! We have people in Cheryl's ning who let us know what is going on. If someone leaves the membership list, as Jezz DID a few days ago (ahead of her posting here) ning remembers their email addy, their IP, and returns them in the list of new members where they formerly were. In other words, they are NOT considered a new member but a returning member. This NEW Jez over there was up top, as an unknown email addy, a new IP, etc. Did not get the old Profile back either which ning does for a returning member. Thus, this is a debunker! Lying.

Also the photo underwent intense scrutiny on this ning when presented. The blog Jezz posted is no longer there, so she deleted it, but I did save the comments off as well as the analysis photos which I will add to the July 31, 2010 Q&A answer blog AND on my website where the Q&A for 7/31 is placed:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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All this spinning is making me dizzy...
Comment by Jez 1 hour ago
Another sad attempt at spinning this:
Jezz,

Nancy is damned if she does and damned if she doesnt.

Why choose to make a personal attack on just 1 photograph ?

Nancy manages 2 massive sites and runs her own home.
Take a long hard look at the amount of data on these sites and how it is updated daily.
None of us are superhuman and yes mistakes are made. We all face global catastrophe and we all struggle to deal with it.
Are you really surprised she is just human like the rest of us ?
Are you prepared to hang her over one photo ? Take a long hard look at the rest of the evidence and the people on here before you are quick to judge ?

I do`nt trust anyone Jezz and see no reason to trust you.
Are you just another debunker? Or government agency ?

Your attack is disproportionate to the event.

Wheres the open mind clear thinking ?

So which is it, she made a mistake because she was tired or Jez was lying?
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Is that flushing sound I hear the final flush of the toilet that is zetatalk?
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ZETA'S RIGHT AGAIN !!!!! hf tomato
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At that moment, after years of following Nancy and ZT, I felt crushed and disillusioned. I believed everything out of this woman's mouth.
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It took them years??

lolatu
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Folks, you're going to have to come to the reality that this woman is a total and complete sham and always has been.
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sherlock
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At that moment, after years of following Nancy and ZT, I felt crushed and disillusioned. I believed everything out of this woman's mouth.


It took them years??

lolatu
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Took me seconds.
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At that moment, after years of following Nancy and ZT, I felt crushed and disillusioned. I believed everything out of this woman's mouth.


It took them years??

lolatu
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Attempting to befriend the people you are trying to awaken by relating to them is an old debunker tactic.

"Just like you, I too believed her every word, but now I see the light and so can you."
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Attempting to befriend the people you are trying to awaken by relating to them is an old debunker tactic.

"Just like you, I too believed her every word, but now I see the light and so can you."
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Here's Nancy re-affirming that the "poleshift" will indeed occur BEFORE 2012.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Is she lying?
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This is what happens when you mix emotionally and mentally disturbed people with someone willing to take advantage of them.

It took a photoshopped image to convince this person.... What about the whole "the Earth has stopped revolving around the Sun! Thats why we only see PX near the Sun itself!" claim......
gsbltd

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899040:

You accuse Nancy Lieder of being a thief. Care to explain exactly WHAT she has "stolen" from you or anybody else [you too, OP!]?

Your FAITH, perhaps? Faith cannot be stolen - it is given freely by those who believe in something. Anything. Anywhere. Any time.

Your MONEY? When has Nancy Lieder ever asked for money for her services? The ZetaTalk website has long offered for sale a set of CD's that contain the text of the website - at a very reasonable price [I know: I bought them 10 years ago] as well as a spiral-bound Changing Times "survival guide" that contains pretty basic and valuable info useful in many applications. Also a very good price. These are worthy products, professionally produced.

Your TIME? How can you possibly put a price tag on the time spent at a forum such as THIS [or any other, for that matter]??? GLP is and always has been ENTERTAINMENT-BASED and is also FREE unless you decide to support them through a paid membership.

AND FINALLY: your assertion that Nancy Lieder is a "Con-artist" - again... a con-artist is one who attempts to fool others for monetary gain. SEE ABOVE for an explanation of why you fail on this claim as well.

You're just a pathetic loser, hoping to jump on a ZetaTalk- bashing-bandwagon.

If nothing else: Nancy Lieder and her ZetaTalk presentations have incorporated a new term into our daily lexicon... POLE-SHIFT. Before ZT there were very FEW references to such a possible phenomenom; now, there are thousands.

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And the fact that out of the hundreds of astronomical claims and predictions that Nancy's made, NONE of them are true? NONE!


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