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Zetatalk Exposed

 
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ZETA'S RIGHT AGAIN !!!!! hf tomato
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ZETA's are done..... MARK 33 words, Zetas by bye, blond, blondes enter, stage right and left creation and evolution is one, also fun loving belief in ones' self.

You gys are really boring me now with your Crap. Be it!

Quit whining already, driving me nuts.
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So far this is the sad attempt of one of her mods to debunk.
By claiming the person is making it all up. There are links provided that that show the photo touched and untouched. I think he actually thinks this will work. Sad thing is, it probably will for some of devotees.

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If you're going to make this claim, back it up with the video, the person who photoshopped it, the camera you used, etc. Back it up!! Don't just jump in and claim it's real, then run off! For god's sake, why do you feel the need to "trick" the Zetas? There are those on this site who would grow insecure due to your claims, and lead them astray. This is no place for your petty debunking. Anybody can say anything to anybody and get away with it. That is the nature of the internet. So please stop.
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Thats kind of scary. There are probably some people who play the Lieder game. They just role play along because its funny to them and they get a kick out of acting like a fool. There are likely other people who prop Nancy up for some personal gain of some type. But then theres the really scary people who truly believe this stuff and refuse to listen to any reason. They are the ones that will likely commit suicide in a house Lieder owns while wearing track suits and nike shoes.
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UMMM: for those who think Photoshopping can only ADD things... it can also be used to REMOVE images from a picture. Why could this not be the case here - with a reverse spin [by the OP's unimpeachable source] on what actually occured - with the "artist" removing PX from a frame to provide the "original image" and thereby "prove" that it doesn't exist? I regularly take pics from online and then "doctor" them to see how skillfully I can delete sections of a picture without it being obvious.

NOT TOO TOUGH TO DO, FOLKS! Methink's the OP's "source" may just be a liar... or, there really IS no Px. Take your pick.

It's all a matter of faith and perception [or lack thereof] anyway.

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Attempting to befriend the people you are trying to awaken by relating to them is an old debunker tactic.

"Just like you, I too believed her every word, but now I see the light and so can you."



Here's Nancy re-affirming that the "poleshift" will indeed occur BEFORE 2012.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Is she lying?
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Weird...when I click on that link, "Service Unavailable: shows up.
Free Store

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I'm not into for the most part photos and videos. Actual weather and earth phenomena are my sign tellers


But the question remains. If it was photographed by Paul Smyres then who took the video of it?..
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TRUE. Global manifestations of significant changes ARE the surest form of proof. These CANNOT be altered. CHANGING TIMES, Sir... changing times!

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I don't know why anyone's fussing over her since she doesn't do her Saturday night Zetatalks on this site anymore.

She couldn't help filtering her lefty pro-Obama views through the mouths of these imaginary Zetas. That was the funniest part of the whole scam.

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TRUE. Global manifestations of significant changes ARE the surest form of proof. These CANNOT be altered. CHANGING TIMES, people... changing times!
 Quoting: gsbltd



Can you name one of them and then back it up with evidence of how it is different now than it has ever been?
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Read the 2nd line of my sig OP,....

Nuff' said.
Theories: Misconceptions awaiting confirmation of incorrectness.
Everything is subject to continually changing variables, leaving nothing to remain as a constant.]D)one!!!!
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I'm not into for the most part photos and videos. Actual weather and earth phenomena are my sign tellers


But the question remains. If it was photographed by Paul Smyres then who took the video of it?..
 Quoting: Free Store

The only question that remains is why the "Zetas" claim this pic is legit altrhough it's a proven and admitted hoax ? Nancy fell for this same thing years ago with Kid A ... you know why ? There are no Zetas, there is no Planet X and Nancy LIEDer is a hoaxer who does the whole hoax on purpose, period !
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If nothing else: Nancy Lieder and her ZetaTalk presentations have incorporated a new term into our daily lexicon... POLE-SHIFT. Before ZT there were very FEW references to such a possible phenomenom; now, there are thousands.
 Quoting: gsbltd

You mean thousands of references to something trash like "Poleshift" is a good thing ? Wow, what a tard you are.
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I don't know why anyone's fussing over her since she doesn't do her Saturday night Zetatalks on this site anymore.
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She is still a mod here ... and she still interferes with threads that are about here here ... for example she is complaining about debunkers crossposting her "articles" on GLP.
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has she killed anymore dogs lately?
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It's all a matter of faith and perception [or lack thereof] anyway.
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No it is a matter of science and logic ... and both science and logic prove there is no PX in the way Nancy says it is (hovering close to the sun hosing us with magnetic particles stopping earths rotation so the Zetas have to make all look normal so we earthlings dont see that something is going on ... well, guess you know her drill alrady).
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991880: You don't study history much, do you? Check meteorological records. Check global rainfall data. Check Volcanic data. Check oceanic temperature charts. ALL current data is vastly different from the time when such records were first established. There's nothing cyclical about current global patterns.

But: you go right ahead and believe the smiling jackass that predicts your local weather! And... pay attention to how often he/she states that an old record has been surpassed.

1054784: 99% of "science" is based upon perception and not absolute proof. That's why the vast majority of scientific evidence is actually referred to as theory.... including Einstein's famed treatis on time/space relativity. Man's scientific understanding is CONSTANTLY being adjusted to incorporate new knowledge which isn't really new at all. It's merely understood more clearly and then shaped into a format that the masses can comprehend.

BTW: logic is also based upon personal perception. So is truth.

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The problem with all wild eyed claimants is they cause the whole movement of truth seeking to be painted with a wide "credibility dissolving" brush - for everyone.

I am certain that these established and often commercial purveyors of novel and incredible claim are intentionality seeded and supported to drown out the occasional small voice of reason.

well intentioned high probability fact gleaners are always lost in the shuffle and tarred with that same brush of incredulity.

Commercial outlandish, novel and incredible theory mongers are the best tool TPTB have in the way of smoke screening their activities. I am fairly certain they sponsor these fringe sites in some way or another.

All they have to say is... Oh, you got that off the Internet.

From there the eyes roll.
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I knew LIEder was a fake or actually agent

the first time I asked a question. I asked several times and she just ignored the question. Anyone in touch with the Zeta's would have known the answer since they comminucate telepathically.
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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Another 'unsharpened pencil.'
Free Store

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Well according to the ZT newsletter, it's the film they are talking about

***This is absolutely captured on film,
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1054784: 99% of "science" is based upon perception and not absolute proof. That's why the vast majority of scientific evidence is actually referred to as theory.... even Einstein's famed treatis on relativity. Man's scientific understanding is CONSTANTLY being adjusted to incorporate new knowledge which isn't really new at all. It's merely understood more clearly.

BTW: logic is also based upon personal perception.
 Quoting: gsbltd


Nancy basically says (among many other things she says):
- Planet X is IN our solar system since 2003
- Planet X is halting our Planet Earth in its position, preventing its normal rotation and moving around the sun
- The powerful Zetas make the world and the seasons appear normal to us (eg. they make we still have seasons and night and day and stuff because we would not have these with a stopped earth).
- Nancy says if you do not follow what she says you will end up on a waterworld prisonplanet as octopus, read what she says:
[link to zetatalk.com]

Simple question to you gsbltd :

Do you believe all of her above statements ... if yes, why ?
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I received this message in my inbox today at Nancy lieders site poleshift.ning.com
Dear friends,
What I am about to tell you is very difficult. A few months ago someone posted a video on here of a camera tied to a balloon that, according to Nancy, the Zeta's said captured planet x. I knew this was a lens flare the second I saw it and expected Nancy and the Zetas to realize the same. Needless to say I was quite shocked when they said it was real.
At that moment, after years of following Nancy and ZT, I felt crushed and disillusioned. I believed everything out of this woman's mouth. Now, I believe nothing she has to say. I'm sure that most of you are probably aware by now that Nancy has been using ZT to badmouth her enemy's. According to Nancy, former moderator of this site, Cheryl Nelson is having a nervous breakdown and is STS in nature. According to her the zetas have also stated that those joining Cheryl's Ning site are STS.
I decided I had to put Nancy and her Zeta's to the test. Thanks to a talented friend of mine, I planted a photo on here this week that supposedly captured px. This photo was confirmed to be the real thing by the Zeta's...at least thats what Nancy said. The photo was not real...it
was photo shopped. This link will take you to the original photo - with NO PX in it!
[link to www.livingbeing.com]

How long has Nancy being lying to us and using ZT to back up those lies? Has she ever been in contact with them? I believe the answer is yes, but they turned their back on her a long time ago. The real question is why? Were they done with her? Had she served them well in their hidden agenda to exterminate the human race under this falsehood of benevolent beings come to save us? Or was it that she had failed them and proven to be a self serving liar and they truly are these wonderful beings? If this is the case, then why didn't they see her for who she is? Did they not read her mind? For that matter, why did they not stop me from exposing their alleged emissary?
I hope that at least some of you will think twice before blindly following another.
This weeks Zetalies: [link to zetatalk.com]
I will post a side by side comparison of the two photos at [link to earthchanges.ning.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 974108

What!?!
ZETATALK a fake!?!
WHAT A BOMBSHELL!!!
You must be a real genius not to have figured this out from your first visit to Nancy's site...
(What year was that BTW? - Had to be recent)
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What!?!
ZETATALK a fake!?!
WHAT A BOMBSHELL!!!
You must be a real genius not to have figured this out from your first visit to Nancy's site...
(What year was that BTW? - Had to be recent)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1054747

I am very pleased someone found his way out of the Zetacult and OP has full respect for that.
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PX was supposed to be here 2003 according to NL. She lied then and she keeps on lying and scamming people.
Nothing but a thief and a con artist.
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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1054784:

Sport: I accept what I read here on GLP or ZT or any other forum as ENTERTAINMENT sprinkled liberally with enough fact to draw in the most readers. It's from those nuggets of truth that I start to connect the dots. I consider the source material and -based upon my perception- draw my own coclusions as to what may or may not constitute the truth.

As I pointed out above: each person's truth is created soley by how they perceive the world around them and is based upon their personal experiences in that world.

That's why one person's "truth" is another's "scam". It's also one of those annoying little things that makes us all inherantly human.

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TRUE. Global manifestations of significant changes ARE the surest form of proof. These CANNOT be altered. CHANGING TIMES, Sir... changing times!
 Quoting: gsbltd

In this place we call reality, change is the only constant.
So, what's your point?
gsbltd

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Why don't you ask that question of the poster who stated that nothing has changed in global weather patterns? It sounds as it you and I are in agreement.

BTW: "reality" is also based upon personal perception.

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1054784:

Sport: I accept what I read here on GLP or ZT or any other forum as ENTERTAINMENT sprinkled liberally with enough fact to draw in the most readers. It's from those nuggets of truth that I start to connect the dots. I consider the source material and -based upon my perception- draw my own coclusions as to what may or may not constitute the truth.

As I pointed out above: each person's truth is created soley by how they perceive the world around them and is based upon their personal experiences in that world.

That's why one person's "truth" is another man's "scam". It's also one of those annoying little things that makes us all inherantly human.
 Quoting: gsbltd

I think I know what you mean about each persons truth and I agree with this when it comes to metaphysical stuff ... but: We are talking about a physical object 4 times the size of jupiter which is supposed to be hovering near the sun ...

... so I guess here ends the "one person's "truth" is another man's "scam""-part --- wether this object is there or it is not, period.

If you now go and say that mans perspective even influences his physical realm we go into metaphysical territory again (Carlos Castaneda and others come to mind who had these theorys).
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My final analyzes is what came first..the photo or the video
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careful people, she has the backing of '' O/ the great abraham soul walking[taking over his body] '' she could send the FBI or CIA on you...


Oh, you mean like when the imaginary "zetas" stated that Obama wouldn't even get the Democratic nomination?
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yep! suddenly she changed her tune and started to praise him, so it could mean she must have gotten a visit...
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Zetas are not the good guys.


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