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WHAT THE WORLD DOES NOT KNOW OF THE JEWS

 
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Throughout history, in almost every country, the Jews have led in fields of intellect. Through the worst of the ”Dark Ages”, when the only men capable of reading were the clergy and some nobility, just about every Jewish male knew how to read Hebrew, and many were equally proficient in the language of the land. Jews have been at the forefront of every civil movement, every intellectual movement, and have been known as scholars throughout all of history.

Even non-Jews have recognized this, and you can find mention of it in numerous places, and in the writings of many cultures.

What is the source of our wisdom?

The Torah is the source!

Anyone who has ever tried to learn the Scriptures alone knows that they are a closed book, full of confusing and difficult-to-understand statements. The Torah is generally briefly worded, and lacks detailed directions. Obviously, commentary is necessary. This commentary is the Oral Tradition, also known as the Oral Law, or the Oral Torah. The Written Bible is completely incomprehensible without the Oral Tradition.


HERE IS A ABSOLUTE PROOF


A gentile once wanted to convert to Judaism. He said he would accept the Written law (Torah) but not the Oral Torah (Law). Hillel taught him the correct order of the Hebrew Alphabet. The next day he reversed the letters. The convert was confused: ”But yesterday you said the opposite!?” “Well, then, you need me, a Rabbi, to teach you the Hebrew Alphabet? So you have to trust my knowledge of the tradition of the letters. What I tell you is the Oral Tradition. You can’t read the alphabet if no one tells you what it means. And you think you don’t need the Rabbis’ knowledge of Jewish Tradition in order to understand the words of the Torah? Those are much more difficult! Without an Oral Tradition you will never be able to learn the Torah.”

Said Hillel: ”You now see that the Written Word alone is insufficient. We need the Oral Tradition to explain G-d’s Word.”

So it is clear that an Oral Tradition is needed, and that one exists.


Hillel also taught him: ”What you dislike, do not do to your friend. That is the basis of the Torah. The rest is commentary; go and learn!”

“And the Lord said to Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone, and the Torah, and the commandments which I have written; that you may teach them.”

(ex 24:12)

The Torah refers to the Written Torah; the Commandments to the Oral Torah, its explanation.




THERE IS ALOT MORE TO THIS READ AT


[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]


YOU WILL ENJOY READING THIS ONE !
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Yeah, look what this progression pioneered by the jews led us to. Mass madness and hypocrisy. Torah? NAH THANKS
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I rise the flag too.

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What the world doesnt know of the jews?

That during the middle ages and after that, they were invited and supported by some governors and also bishops in Europe, they were protected and given special privileges both economical and educational and a large scale of autonomy, political/social and religious. The Arabs and the Ottoman Turks followed this managment too.

Also that the "Alliance Israelite" was their most strong and effective organization from its creation (1860) and on.
The Alliance Israelite supported the political zionism (the establishment of an independant Israeli state in Palestine) in 1945 and in 1946 its diplomatic activities were taken over by the Consultative Council of Jewish Organizations in New York City.

Also, they probably dont know that some jewish organizations didnt support the political zionism. These were mostly groups in eastern Europe and especially the German jews.
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Throughout history, in almost every country, the Jews have led in fields of intellect. Through the worst of the ”Dark Ages”, when the only men capable of reading were the clergy and some nobility, just about every Jewish male knew how to read Hebrew, and many were equally proficient in the language of the land. Jews have been at the forefront of every civil movement, every intellectual movement, and have been known as scholars throughout all of history.

Even non-Jews have recognized this, and you can find mention of it in numerous places, and in the writings of many cultures.

What is the source of our wisdom?

The Torah is the source!

Anyone who has ever tried to learn the Scriptures alone knows that they are a closed book, full of confusing and difficult-to-understand statements. The Torah is generally briefly worded, and lacks detailed directions. Obviously, commentary is necessary. This commentary is the Oral Tradition, also known as the Oral Law, or the Oral Torah. The Written Bible is completely incomprehensible without the Oral Tradition.


HERE IS A ABSOLUTE PROOF


A gentile once wanted to convert to Judaism. He said he would accept the Written law (Torah) but not the Oral Torah (Law). Hillel taught him the correct order of the Hebrew Alphabet. The next day he reversed the letters. The convert was confused: ”But yesterday you said the opposite!?” “Well, then, you need me, a Rabbi, to teach you the Hebrew Alphabet? So you have to trust my knowledge of the tradition of the letters. What I tell you is the Oral Tradition. You can’t read the alphabet if no one tells you what it means. And you think you don’t need the Rabbis’ knowledge of Jewish Tradition in order to understand the words of the Torah? Those are much more difficult! Without an Oral Tradition you will never be able to learn the Torah.”

Said Hillel: ”You now see that the Written Word alone is insufficient. We need the Oral Tradition to explain G-d’s Word.”

So it is clear that an Oral Tradition is needed, and that one exists.


Hillel also taught him: ”What you dislike, do not do to your friend. That is the basis of the Torah. The rest is commentary; go and learn!”

“And the Lord said to Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone, and the Torah, and the commandments which I have written; that you may teach them.”

(ex 24:12)

The Torah refers to the Written Torah; the Commandments to the Oral Torah, its explanation.




THERE IS ALOT MORE TO THIS READ AT


[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]


YOU WILL ENJOY READING THIS ONE !
 Quoting: The Path 1057562



Too bad the Jews haven't figured out the most important piece of life...Jesus is The Messiah and the Savior, God's (don't forget the letter o) son. The Jews for their wonderful wisdom will be misled by the false messiah (antichrist) simply because he strikes a peace treaty for the war he devised and allows for the rebuilding of the temple. For all your wisdom, you are blinded. What's more, the 13th tribe of israel (the forsaken one and of the temple of satan) is in control of your nation and the entire world. They will lead many of you to slaughter as you remain idolizing some rabbi instead of focusing on God and His Son. In the End, you will know as it is stated that he raises those remaining of the 12 tribes of Israel that believed and accepted.
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I should add that the same happened during the existance of the Roman Empire. Especially in the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium) the jews were supported by many emperors and regional rulers, especially because of what they suffered by the Crusaders.
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Yeah, look what this progression pioneered by the jews led us to. Mass madness and hypocrisy. Torah? NAH THANKS
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Mass madness and hypocrisy.

Has nothing to do with Torah


please comment concerning the worlds in the post


say something intelligent please !
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The term 'Jew' is a TITLE designating someone who is awakened. It is not a religiously formed people with a book. The religiously formed people known as Jews, today, are an imprisoned people - chained to some external 'god' who is really a beast. To be a Jew in the actual sense, one is called to be a 'light unto the nations'. What have those who MAY have been once awakened and then were attacked and contained through 'religion' and 'priestcraft'?

They've become just like the nations they claim to not be like, playing the same games as those nations, and making a mockery of the potential they once carried within but sold for a few pieces of silver. They are in the process of being harvested right now.
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Throughout history, in almost every country, the Jews have led in fields of intellect. Through the worst of the ”Dark Ages”, when the only men capable of reading were the clergy and some nobility, just about every Jewish male knew how to read Hebrew, and many were equally proficient in the language of the land. Jews have been at the forefront of every civil movement, every intellectual movement, and have been known as scholars throughout all of history.

Even non-Jews have recognized this, and you can find mention of it in numerous places, and in the writings of many cultures.

What is the source of our wisdom?

The Torah is the source!

Anyone who has ever tried to learn the Scriptures alone knows that they are a closed book, full of confusing and difficult-to-understand statements. The Torah is generally briefly worded, and lacks detailed directions. Obviously, commentary is necessary. This commentary is the Oral Tradition, also known as the Oral Law, or the Oral Torah. The Written Bible is completely incomprehensible without the Oral Tradition.


HERE IS A ABSOLUTE PROOF


A gentile once wanted to convert to Judaism. He said he would accept the Written law (Torah) but not the Oral Torah (Law). Hillel taught him the correct order of the Hebrew Alphabet. The next day he reversed the letters. The convert was confused: ”But yesterday you said the opposite!?” “Well, then, you need me, a Rabbi, to teach you the Hebrew Alphabet? So you have to trust my knowledge of the tradition of the letters. What I tell you is the Oral Tradition. You can’t read the alphabet if no one tells you what it means. And you think you don’t need the Rabbis’ knowledge of Jewish Tradition in order to understand the words of the Torah? Those are much more difficult! Without an Oral Tradition you will never be able to learn the Torah.”

Said Hillel: ”You now see that the Written Word alone is insufficient. We need the Oral Tradition to explain G-d’s Word.”

So it is clear that an Oral Tradition is needed, and that one exists.


Hillel also taught him: ”What you dislike, do not do to your friend. That is the basis of the Torah. The rest is commentary; go and learn!”

“And the Lord said to Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone, and the Torah, and the commandments which I have written; that you may teach them.”

(ex 24:12)

The Torah refers to the Written Torah; the Commandments to the Oral Torah, its explanation.




THERE IS ALOT MORE TO THIS READ AT


[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]


YOU WILL ENJOY READING THIS ONE !



Too bad the Jews haven't figured out the most important piece of life...Jesus is The Messiah and the Savior, God's (don't forget the letter o) son. The Jews for their wonderful wisdom will be misled by the false messiah (antichrist) simply because he strikes a peace treaty for the war he devised and allows for the rebuilding of the temple. For all your wisdom, you are blinded. What's more, the 13th tribe of israel (the forsaken one and of the temple of satan) is in control of your nation and the entire world. They will lead many of you to slaughter as you remain idolizing some rabbi instead of focusing on God and His Son. In the End, you will know as it is stated that he raises those remaining of the 12 tribes of Israel that believed and accepted.
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Jesus is not even mentioned in the Dead sea scrolls written in the generation after his death.


This shows he had we not what the Roman writters of the New Testement claimed him to be.

Among the Jews his life was not much.

The whole story was a Roman fabrication, pretty much

written hundreds of years later when the so called "New Testament" was Published.

Regardless the God searches hearts and deeds and hears those who call "in truth"
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The term 'Jew' is a TITLE designating someone who is awakened. It is not a religiously formed people with a book. The religiously formed people known as Jews, today, are an imprisoned people - chained to some external 'god' who is really a beast. To be a Jew in the actual sense, one is called to be a 'light unto the nations'. What have those who MAY have been once awakened and then were attacked and contained through 'religion' and 'priestcraft'?

They've become just like the nations they claim to not be like, playing the same games as those nations, and making a mockery of the potential they once carried within but sold for a few pieces of silver. They are in the process of being harvested right now.
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The revelation from God to the "Jews" is allmost all we have

It lays the foundation of Islam and Christianity

and on the Island Of Hunan China where Laso wrote the

Tao

Jews settled there before him and a monument exists there honoring their wisdom.

maybe this is why in the Tao on page 32 it says there are enough names.

Referring to whats called in the Torah tradition the

"32 Paths"

It is true many Jew's have missed the mark
have not accomplished the goal at the highest level,
some have not even done well. But such is found among all nations and in all fields.
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Hebrew is a resurrected language, it almost died out before the creation of Israel. Jews did not have such an importance in history as they would like people to believe.
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Sorry, you're wrong, it's the Jocks (Scottish) to you!

And before you reply, being mainly English, with a smattering of Welsh, I can't abide upperty Jocks either!
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Hebrew is a resurrected language, it almost died out before the creation of Israel. Jews did not have such an importance in history as they would like people to believe.
 Quoting: <| NutOnTheEdge |>




What you talking about. There are litterally millions of Hebrew Torah books written from Baghdad to Paris through out each and every generation.

It is true that Isreal is the first nation to return to their
land and speak the language they spoke more than 2 thousand years before.

as far as

"Jews did not have such an importance in history as they would like people to believe."

not sure what you mean

this is only a list of Jewish Noble prize winners

There is also alot more important things to talk about

Literature

* 1910 - Paul Heyse
* 1927 - Henri Bergson
* 1958 - Boris Pasternak
* 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
* 1966 - Nelly Sachs
* 1976 - Saul Bellow
* 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
* 1981 - Elias Canetti
* 1987 - Joseph Brodsky
* 1991 - Nadine Gordimer
* 2001 - Imre Kertesz
* 2005 - Harold Pinter


World Peace

* 1911 - Alfred Fried
* 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
* 1968 - Rene Cassin
* 1973 - Henry Kissinger
* 1978 - Menachem Begin
* 1986 - Elie Wiesel
* 1994 - Shimon Peres
* 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
* 1995 - Joseph Rotblat

Chemistry

* 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
* 1906 - Henri Moissan
* 1910 - Otto Wallach
* 1915 - Richard Willstaetter
* 1918 - Fritz Haber
* 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
* 1961 - Melvin Calvin
* 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
* 1972 - William Howard Stein
* 1977 - Ilya Prigogine
* 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
* 1980 - Paul Berg
* 1980 - Walter Gilbert
* 1981 - Roald Hoffmann
* 1982 - Aaron Klug
* 1985 - Herbert Hauptman
* 1985 - Jerome Karle
* 1989 - Sidney Altman
* 1992 - Rudolph Marcus
* 1998 - Walter Kohn
* 2004 - Avram Hershko, Aaron Ciechanover and Irwin Rose
* 2006 - Roger Kornberg
* 2009 - Ada Yonath


Economics

* 1970 - Paul Samuelson
* 1971 - Simon Kuznets
* 1972 - Kenneth Arrow
* 1973 - Wassily Leontief
* 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
* 1976 - Milton Friedman
* 1978 - Herbert A. Simon
* 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
* 1985 - Franco Modigliani
* 1987 - Robert M. Solow
* 1990 - Harry Markowitz
* 1990 - Merton Miller
* 1992 - Gary Becker
* 1993 - Robert Fogel
* 1994 - John Harsanyi
* 1997 - Myron Scholes
* 2001 - Joseph Stiglitz
* 2001 - George A. Akerlof
* 2002 - Daniel Kahneman
* 2005 - Robert Aumann
* 2007 - Leonid Hurwicz, Eric Maskin & Roger Myerson
* 2008 - Paul Krugman

Medicine

* 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff & Paul Ehrlich
* 1914 - Robert Barany
* 1922 - Otto Meyerhof
* 1930 - Karl Landsteiner
* 1931 - Otto Warburg
* 1936 - Otto Loewi
* 1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
* 1944 - Joseph Erlanger
* 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
* 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
* 1947 - Gerty Cori*
* 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
* 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
* 1953 - Hans Krebs & Fritz Lipmann
* 1958 - Joshua Lederberg
* 1959 - Arthur Kornberg
* 1964 - Konrad Bloch
* 1965 - Francois Jacob & Andre Lwoff
* 1967 - George Wald
* 1968 - Marshall Nirenberg
* 1969 - Salvador Luria
* 1970 - Julius Axelrod & Bernard Katz
* 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
* 1975 - David Baltimore & Howard Temin
* 1976 - Baruch Blumberg
* 1977 - Rosalyn Sussman Yalow & Andrew V. Schally
* 1978 - Daniel Nathans
* 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
* 1984 - Cesar Milstein
* 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown & Joseph Goldstein
* 1986 - Stanley Cohen & Rita Levi-Montalcini
* 1988 - Gertrude Elion
* 1989 - Harold Varmus
* 1994 - Alfred Gilman & Martin Rodbell
* 1997- Stanley B. Prusiner
* 1998 - Robert Furchgott
* 2000 - Paul Greengard & Eric Kandel
* 2002 - H. Robert Horvitz & Sydney Brenner


Physics

* 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
* 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
* 1921 - Albert Einstein
* 1922 - Niels Bohr
* 1925 - James Franck & Gustav Hertz
* 1943 - Otto Stern
* 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
* 1945 - Wolfgang Pauli
* 1952 - Felix Bloch
* 1954 - Max Born#
* 1958 - Igor Tamm & Il'ja Mikhailovich Frank
* 1959 - Emilio Segrè
* 1960 - Donald A. Glaser
* 1961 - Robert Hofstadter
* 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
* 1963 - Eugene Wigner
* 1965 - Richard Feynman & Julian Schwinger
* 1967 - Hans Bethe
* 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
* 1971 - Dennis Gabor
* 1972 - Leon Cooper
* 1973 - Brian David Josephson
* 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
* 1976 - Burton Richter
* 1978 - Arno Penzias & Pyotr Kapitsa
* 1979 - Stephen Weinberg & Sheldon Glashow
* 1988 - Leon Lederman & Melvin Schwartz & Jack Steinberger
* 1990 - Jerome Friedman
* 1992- Georges Charpak
* 1995 - Martin Perl & Fredrick Reines
* 1996 - Douglas D. Osheroff & David M. Lee
* 1997 - Claude Cohen-Tannoudji
* 2000 - Zhores I. Alferov
* 2003 - Vitaly Ginzburg & Alexei A. Abrikosov
* 2004 - H. David Politzer & David Gross
* 2005 - Roy Glauber
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yep op is right . but they cant play sports ;-) but they a darn smart and thats true . im not jewish im just a bastard from holland ;-)
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This post is not saying Judaism is the only way to God, it is not !


THERE IS ALOT MORE TO THIS READ AT


[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]


YOU WILL ENJOY READING THIS ONE !
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And the Jocks are like the Jews, they promote amongst themselves at the expense of their popularity with the rest of the world. Both the above also have the Arab trait of detesting infidels only slightly more than they detest their own.
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yep op is right . but they cant play sports ;-) but they a darn smart and thats true . im not jewish im just a bastard from holland ;-)
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My dad played Ice Hockey, may his soul rise higher


even in these sports Jews excelled
* 1 Athletes
o 1.1 Baseball
o 1.2 Basketball
o 1.3 Boxing
o 1.4 Canoeing
o 1.5 Cricket
o 1.6 Fencing
o 1.7 Field Hockey
o 1.8 Figure skating
o 1.9 Football (American)
o 1.10 Football (Association; Soccer)
o 1.11 Football (Australian Rules)
o 1.12 Golf
o 1.13 Gymnastics
o 1.14 Ice hockey
o 1.15 Judo
o 1.16 Mixed martial arts
o 1.17 Motorsport
o 1.18 Rugby League
o 1.19 Rugby union
o 1.20 Sailing
o 1.21 Speed Skating
o 1.22 Swimming
o 1.23 Table tennis
o 1.24 Tennis
o 1.25 Track and field
o 1.26 Triathlon
o 1.27 Volleyball
o 1.28 Water Polo
o 1.29 Weightlifting
o 1.30 Wrestling
o 1.31 Professional wrestling
* 2 Commissioners, managers/coaches, and owners
* 3 See also
* 4 References
o 4.1 Books
* 5 External links
o 5.1 Jewish sports halls of fame
see the lists

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Jews a are small part of the world population

but have done alot well

some not so well as is found among all races
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Um, ya, so why was Moses a practitioner of Magi-ck? Look up the books....

and a teaser.... the language of light (fire)


[link to hiddenlighthouse.wordpress.com]

I know nothing, absolutely nothing!

I like purple
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Jesus is not even mentioned in the Dead sea scrolls written in the generation after his death.


This shows he had we not what the Roman writters of the New Testement claimed him to be.

Among the Jews his life was not much.

The whole story was a Roman fabrication, pretty much

written hundreds of years later when the so called "New Testament" was Published.

Regardless the God searches hearts and deeds and hears those who call "in truth"
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There are a myriad of old testament scriptures that prophesy of Messiah Jesus. Here are but a few;

Psalm 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

Isaiah 12:2  Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. (Word for salvation here is Yeshua)

Isaiah 53:1  ¶Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
2  For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3  He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4  ¶Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5  But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6  All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7  He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8  He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9  And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10  ¶Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11  He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12  Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
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i like jewish people in general . my bible teacher was jewish (never believed a word of it ) but she told it so nice ;-) my other teacher miss roth was also a very good teacher . strong minds will allways win miss roth told me .
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whatever happened to Yahwee???
He was all over the jews and Israel for atime
with Abraham, Moses, Elija, Daniel, Zachariah etcetera etcetera ad nauseum with a moltitudes of prophets and oracles predicting all sorts of things and then suddenly 2500 years ago Yahwee went silent...
what happened??
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whatever happened to Yahwee???
He was all over the jews and Israel for atime
with Abraham, Moses, Elija, Daniel, Zachariah etcetera etcetera ad nauseum with a moltitudes of prophets and oracles predicting all sorts of things and then suddenly 2500 years ago Yahwee went silent...
what happened??
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Some force shut the fucker up.
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"Jews did not have such an importance in history as they would like people to believe."

not sure what you mean

this is only a list of Jewish Noble prize winners

There is also alot more important things to talk about


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Come on, the Nobel price Winner? Do you still really believe it has any worth? It's only a tea party rewarding its own members. Obama getting the peace Nobel price is surely the icing at the top of the cake.

Jews have as much importance as the fleas at the back of a dog, they make trouble on their host countries through history and then wonder why their host is trying to scratch them out. If you are persecuted, you must be right by divine laws.
Of course only Jews make it through history, only them are ensured to have the cash to get a proper education while the rest is being brainwashed. This does not make them superior.
The only think these people are to be thanked is to be the example not to follow if you don't want to be on the path to destruction.
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08/04/2010 08:12 AM
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Re: WHAT THE WORLD DOES NOT KNOW OF THE JEWS
whatever happened to Yahwee???
He was all over the jews and Israel for atime
with Abraham, Moses, Elija, Daniel, Zachariah etcetera etcetera ad nauseum with a moltitudes of prophets and oracles predicting all sorts of things and then suddenly 2500 years ago Yahwee went silent...
what happened??
 Quoting: MBECCU 1056249


Some references say that Yahweh was a spirit worshiped by the people of Nibiru as they were on earth. Yahweh is off with Nibiru.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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08/04/2010 08:16 AM
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Re: WHAT THE WORLD DOES NOT KNOW OF THE JEWS
whatever happened to Yahwee???
He was all over the jews and Israel for atime
with Abraham, Moses, Elija, Daniel, Zachariah etcetera etcetera ad nauseum with a moltitudes of prophets and oracles predicting all sorts of things and then suddenly 2500 years ago Yahwee went silent...
what happened??
 Quoting: MBECCU 1056249




The ark and prophesy (for the most part)

is not revealed in this exile period.


It was for told by the prophets.

so is its return !
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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08/04/2010 08:20 AM
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Re: WHAT THE WORLD DOES NOT KNOW OF THE JEWS
"Jews did not have such an importance in history as they would like people to believe."

not sure what you mean

this is only a list of Jewish Noble prize winners

There is also alot more important things to talk about




Come on, the Nobel price Winner? Do you still really believe it has any worth? It's only a tea party rewarding its own members. Obama getting the peace Nobel price is surely the icing at the top of the cake.


Like Obama has been looking out for Israel ?

Jews have as much importance as the fleas at the back of a dog, they make trouble on their host countries through history and then wonder why their host is trying to scratch them out. If you are persecuted, you must be right by divine laws.
Of course only Jews make it through history, only them are ensured to have the cash to get a proper education while the rest is being brainwashed. This does not make them superior.
The only think these people are to be thanked is to be the example not to follow if you don't want to be on the path to destruction.
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sure there have been Madoff

but there has also been Manson isnt Jewish


GIVE CREDIT WHERE ITS DO



dont hold on to BASELESS HATRED
Anonymous Coward
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08/04/2010 08:23 AM
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Re: WHAT THE WORLD DOES NOT KNOW OF THE JEWS
there is much about them we will never know...
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08/04/2010 08:40 AM
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Let the Isrealites, Jews,Juedeans.
Say what they like, the truth is the law was given to them,
and they perverted it for their own profit, and power, the proof is here for all to see today.

They were warned by god, many times, and killed those who gave them the truth from God. If you compare what is spoken by their prophets to them, from that time up to now the history proves their prophets were right.

And proves as a nation they are stupid. Because how many times must they be warned and still they think they can get away with it, and never do, if that is not enough to convince you that you are better off speaking to a rock than a Rabbi, nothing will.

Then you must ask yourself, am I of the lost tribe of a stupid nation!
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08/04/2010 08:43 AM
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>>The Written Bible is completely incomprehensible without the Oral Tradition.

Not. Just ask the many Christians.

your babylonian traditions is why you've rejected the Messiah/God.
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08/04/2010 08:54 AM
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Re: WHAT THE WORLD DOES NOT KNOW OF THE JEWS
Jesus is not even mentioned in the Dead sea scrolls written in the generation after his death.


This shows he had we not what the Roman writters of the New Testement claimed him to be.

Among the Jews his life was not much.

The whole story was a Roman fabrication, pretty much

written hundreds of years later when the so called "New Testament" was Published.

Regardless the God searches hearts and deeds and hears those who call "in truth"


There are a myriad of old testament scriptures that prophesy of Messiah Jesus. Here are but a few;

Psalm 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

This is a Psalm, one of king David's personal prayers, it is not a prophesy.

Isaiah 12:2  Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. (Word for salvation here is Yeshua)

So what, the student of Moses Joshua as you know him is also in Hebrew "Yeshua"


Isaiah 53:1  ¶Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
2  For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3  He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4  ¶Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5  But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6  All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7  He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8  He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9  And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10  ¶Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11  He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12  Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
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" so he openeth not his mouth. "

this cant be a Prophesy of JC

in his suffering he complained

" God why have you forsaken me"

Its alot better to learn the wisdom God say in The Bible than to try to make each verse about Jesus, which is is

NOT.

Act with kindness and correctly and God will hear your prayer

Results are not always what we expect



Jesus is not even mentioned in the Dead sea scrolls written in the generation after his death.


You were responding to this but did not answer

Jesus did not have the impact in his generation, as written about hundreds of years later in the NT

the Dead sea scrolls are proof of that !
Ostria

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08/04/2010 09:00 AM
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Jesus is not even mentioned in the Dead sea scrolls written in the generation after his death.


You were responding to this but did not answer

Jesus did not have the impact in his generation, as written about hundreds of years later in the NT

the Dead sea scrolls are proof of that !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1057562


The dead sea scrolls were written both before and after jesus time. And not "hundrends of years later", the latest we have found are of 70AC
But I agree that Jesus didnt have much impact in his generation and especially among the several jewish religious groups.

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