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How Does OBAMACARE Work?? PLEASE EXPLAIN!! I'm Confused!

 
JagerHitsULater
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I've been trying to figure out the new laws and benefits of Obamacare. I am completely confused can someone please explain what it means to the common man? I remember Nancy Pelosi saying “pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it, away from the fog of controversy.” It's been passed for a while but I still unable to figure out what it involves. I am absolutely lost. While trying to look it up I stumbled upon this Flow Chart and now I'm completely stumped.

Flow Chart. (PDF Format)
[link to www.house.gov]

Can Someone Explain In Layman's Terms What ObamaCare Entails?

What Is Being Done To Control Fraud?

How Many New Government Agencies Are Being Created?

What Powers Will These New Entities Be Granted?

How Much Will It Cost? (Me)?

Will Doctors Be Overwhelmed With Too Many New Patients?

How Will Mandatory Health Programs Be Enforced?

Will I Be Required To Give Anything(i.e. DNA, Blood, Plasma)?

Any Info You Have Helps. I'm Lost.
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Sure, it will provide an immediate flow of funds into the government treasury, to "ensure" future obligations which they never intend to fulfill.
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it doesnt. it is designed as well as his other policies to destroy america, the way we know it. they wish to instate a new government, they haft to destroy the old and make us believe its cause capitalism doesnt work, we then become slaves to a dictator.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Re: How Does OBAMACARE Work?? PLEASE EXPLAIN!! I'm Confused!
You wait behind 100 illegal immigrants with snotty noses for your life saving surgery.
When you get to see your doctor she is fresh out of Vet school and making $30,000 a year. Then you die.
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well you start off by getting sick

then you arrange your funeral
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<---insert pay more money
well you start off by getting sick
<---insert pay more money
then you arrange your funeral
<---insert pay more money
<---insert pauper's burial

 Quoting: OVRANALYZE
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Can Someone Explain In Layman's Terms What ObamaCare Entails?
No one really knows. Definitely not the Congressmen who signed it.

What Is Being Done To Control Fraud?
Nothing.

How Many New Government Agencies Are Being Created?
Hundreds.

What Powers Will These New Entities Be Granted?
What ever they want.

How Much Will It Cost? (Me)?
More than you can afford.

Will Doctors Be Overwhelmed With Too Many New Patients?
Yes.

How Will Mandatory Health Programs Be Enforced?
Fines and jail.

Will I Be Required To Give Anything(i.e. DNA, Blood, Plasma)?
All of the above.
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<---insert pay more money
well you start off by getting sick
<---insert pay more money
then you arrange your funeral
<---insert pay more money
<---insert pauper's burial


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rofl

exactly!
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I can tell you NO ONE on this site can give you an un-bias explanation.

Most people just repeat emails sent out by political parties.
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Pyramid scheme, try to be on an upper level.
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take a walk with me down memory lane ..... (cue up the sound)

when the bill first hit the net and we were here for days dissecting it .. aaahhh

member the buzz word " closing the doughnut hole"
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Ok No One Knows. Except:

It'll Cost Me Lots of Money

I'll Be Stuck Waiting In Line Behind Everyone Who Comes In With The Slightest Sickness Because They Can (and get a day off work and companies will be required to pay a sick day? maybe...)

Lots Of More Government Control

Corruption Everywhere

I'll Have A Substandard Doctor

Don't Get Sick And Pay The Extra Tax

+1 for Obama
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Sure, it will provide an immediate flow of funds into the government treasury, to "ensure" future obligations which they never intend to fulfill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432



Above is reason #1.

2.You will have to take any medication/vaccination they tell you too. Or go to jail/or pay penalty.

3.there is a rfid chip provision in it.how they do it we do not know yet.

4.This will tax business and raise their taxes up to 40 %.
Forget about having a job.They are destroying the economy on purpose. It's pretty obvious.

5.Also hidden people and companies will have to pay taxes on any transaction over 600$ "1099". Kill small business.

I could go on but this shit is depressing.
"While it is true that the ALL is all, It is equally true that the ALL is within all."
-The Kybalion-

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
-(The Buddha)
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Does any one think the government can run any thing worth a shit. especially healthcare?

It's the gulf disaster times 100
"While it is true that the ALL is all, It is equally true that the ALL is within all."
-The Kybalion-

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
-(The Buddha)
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Sure, it will provide an immediate flow of funds into the government treasury, to "ensure" future obligations which they never intend to fulfill.



Above is reason #1.

2.You will have to take any medication/vaccination they tell you too. Or go to jail/or pay penalty.

3.there is a rfid chip provision in it.how they do it we do not know yet.

4.This will tax business and raise their taxes up to 40 %.
Forget about having a job.They are destroying the economy on purpose. It's pretty obvious.

5.Also hidden people and companies will have to pay taxes on any transaction over 600$ "1099". Kill small business.

I could go on but this shit is depressing.
 Quoting: Real N' Raw


Drink The Kool-Aid & I'll Be Alright.

Don't & I'm a Criminal.

Very Depressing But I'm Trying To Figure Out My Options
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It DOES NOT WORK...IT WILL NOT WORK....AND WE MIGHT AS WELL KISS ALL OUR FREEDOMS AWAY!!!! THIS IS YOUR CHANGE...
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I can tell you NO ONE on this site can give you an un-bias explanation.

Most people just repeat emails sent out by political parties.
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NO WE DON'T WE HAVE OUR OWN BIASED OPINIONS!

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Well it's really simple. Right now you pay the insurance company for your insurance...(500 a month on average)...after the law kicks in you pay the government for your insurance and if you are an illegal alien or broke...it's "free"!!!! But, you'll have to pay if you get a job or become a citizen.
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Sure, it will provide an immediate flow of funds into the government treasury, to "ensure" future obligations which they never intend to fulfill.



Above is reason #1.

2.You will have to take any medication/vaccination they tell you too. Or go to jail/or pay penalty.

3.there is a rfid chip provision in it.how they do it we do not know yet.

4.This will tax business and raise their taxes up to 40 %.
Forget about having a job.They are destroying the economy on purpose. It's pretty obvious.

5.Also hidden people and companies will have to pay taxes on any transaction over 600$ "1099". Kill small business.

I could go on but this shit is depressing.
 Quoting: Real N' Raw


LOL...Morans are easy to trick into depression, usually self inflicted.
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The way THEY say it's supposed to work:

Everyone will have health insurance, if they don't they will be fined. Ths will reduce costs because more people will be able to get preventative care and they will go to see a doctor when they first get sick rather than letting themselves get so sick that they go to the ER for care that they aren't going to be able to pay for. The hospitals don't like this because they have to eat the losses and of couse they pass the costs on to paying patients.

The way it will actually work:

Everyone will be insured. The same people who have lived off of public assistance their whole lives will have their healthcare costs paid by the government. Responsible people will pay for their own health insurance and also will be paying the "fine" (higher taxes) for the deadbeats who don't pay for their health insurance. The newly insured will continue to live an unhealthy lifestyle. They will continue to go to the ER for every little medical problem. The hospitals will be happy because the government (i.e. taxpayers) will be paying for all of their previous losses.
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obamacare takes your money and leaves you sick that simple.
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Sure, it will provide an immediate flow of funds into the government treasury, to "ensure" future obligations which they never intend to fulfill.




LOL...Morans are easy to trick into depression, usually self inflicted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1059532


fuck off jack ass this health care bill is an abortion.

It's more about taxation,control and de population.

I hope your part of the depopulation you apathetic mis informed moran.

Last Edited by Real N' Raw on 08/05/2010 11:03 PM
"While it is true that the ALL is all, It is equally true that the ALL is within all."
-The Kybalion-

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
-(The Buddha)
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It doesn't.
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So, all you haters are fine with insurance companies denying you coverage when you or a family member gets sick? It's OK with you that a family goes bankrupt because of medical bills? Really, I thought more of the GLP crowd than being insurance company shills.
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So, all you haters are fine with insurance companies denying you coverage when you or a family member gets sick? It's OK with you that a family goes bankrupt because of medical bills? Really, I thought more of the GLP crowd than being insurance company shills.
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I went bankrupt and will again....before I am ok with socialized medicine...its just money. My health is worth so much more. You, sir, are the MORAN!
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Just look at socialist nations and see how their health care system is working. Then look to see where their elites head to for the best medical care in the world. Then think about why the others are wanting to get away from socialized medicine.
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So, all you haters are fine with insurance companies denying you coverage when you or a family member gets sick? It's OK with you that a family goes bankrupt because of medical bills? Really, I thought more of the GLP crowd than being insurance company shills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055419


Who do you think is the biggest beneficiary of this bill?

Yes big Pharma and their deathcare meds.and of course the gov. control and forced vaccinations.

You sir are just mis informed it has nothing to do with ins.co's.

Last Edited by Real N' Raw on 08/05/2010 11:01 PM
"While it is true that the ALL is all, It is equally true that the ALL is within all."
-The Kybalion-

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
-(The Buddha)
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So, all you haters are fine with insurance companies denying you coverage when you or a family member gets sick? It's OK with you that a family goes bankrupt because of medical bills? Really, I thought more of the GLP crowd than being insurance company shills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055419


If It Goes As Planned It Might Work, But The Government Is In Charge So It Will Fail.

Have You Been To The DMV Recently? We Know How Smoothly That Runs. Imagine That 2 Hour Wait To Renew Your License But With A Room Full Of Sick People. The Ones Who Need Help Won't Be Able To Get It Because The System Will Be Over Crowded With Minor BS (small cuts, twisted ankles, crying babies, ect.)

On Another Note Will Drinking/Smoking/Drug Use Increase?

Everything's Covered Why Take Care Of Yourself Doc Will Fix You Up.
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Just look at socialist nations and see how their health care system is working. Then look to see where their elites head to for the best medical care in the world. Then think about why the others are wanting to get away from socialized medicine.
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From what I've read (and yes unlike so many here, I do actually research the issues) it works damn well!
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Who do you think is the biggest beneficiary of this bill?

Yes big Pharma and their deathcare meds.and of course the gov. control and forced vaccinations.

You sir are just mis informed it has nothing to do with ins.co's.
 Quoting: Real N' Raw


I agree, it didn't go far enough. Real reform never would have passed. Too many ignorant constituents out there for real reform!
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I agree, it didn't go far enough. Real reform never would have passed. Too many ignorant constituents out there for real reform!



Really? Wow...now I know why this country is in the state it is in....move to England, get cancer and then get back to us and tell us why socialized medicine is the best thing since sliced bread....OH WAIT...you won't make it that far.

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