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****AWESOME New Video!!!!****** Bp's Biggest Cover Up/Lie Yet!!!!!

 
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Fantastic video! Just a little confusing at times, but a bit of post-production work might help clear that up : ) I have just a couple suggestions:

-- IMHO, the music is great and provides enough suspense so that I don't think you need to cut away so quickly from the well permits, because for me, that makes it look like you're trying to hide something. Maybe let it linger for a couple seconds on the permits to let people take in the numbers. After all, there are multiple sets of Lambert numbers for people to read. Which leads me to my next suggestion ...

-- Overall, my chief concern is that the payoff screen with the "New" ... "A" ... "Old" coordinates at 1:27 is confusing because I was expecting two sets of coordinates, PreBonnie(B) and PostBonnie(A), not three sets of coordinates. Doing something like the following might help (especially with the vertical alignments). Then maybe linger on the payoff screen for a while. Additionally since the first four Xcoords and first five Ycoords are always the same, perhaps you could highlight the others:


WELL B WELL A

Permit X:Y X:Y

PreBonnie X:Y X:Y

PostBonnie X:Y X:Y


So to sum up, maybe lengthen the permit quick-edits and change the payoff screen a bit and you're gold. There's only one other issue : ) why are there four sets of Lambert numbers shown in the video? Between the permits, the ROVs, and the payoff screen, I counted four.


0:48 Lambert Set 1202803, 10431617 -- (A)

0:52 Lambert Set 1202514, 10434194 -- (B)

2:40 Lambert Set 1202581, 10431685 -- (Why diff from B at 0:52 ?)

3:08 ROV Lam Set 1202791, 10431601 -- (Why diff from A at 0:48 ?)


Was it hard to get ROV screenshots that exactly matched the permits? Because the ROVs are on the move? Some of the differences are small, but some are noticeable, and thereby confusing. I think it might help to explain the difference with a text screen before the ROV screens.

All in all, a really fantastic job. (Everybody's a critic, right? : ) Way to go!
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I don't know what we can do. The government has sold us out, it is only when the people unite and stand up that any of this will stop!!
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Perhaps the glenn beck 8/28 restoring honor rally?
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does anyone feel like speculating, maybe giving a timeline, of what they think is likely to happen in the gulf over the next year or so?

there is almost nothing those big oil and government guys could not get away with on the bottom of the ocean, they knew that from day one. but eventually the ocean will give the game away, which is why i'm asking what people think will happen.
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Oops, maybe this will fix the alignment


...............WELL_B................WELL_A

Permit..........X:Y...................X:Y

PreBonnie.......X:Y...................X:Y

PostBonnie......X:Y...................X:Y
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Dramatic music and tiny text equals fail.
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What have you ever done to inform your fellow man of lies, injustice, corruption in the name of Truth?

Great video - music great choice, type font size...ok, but it is sometimes overlooked while putting something together - not to worry. Great job,OP!
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does anyone feel like speculating, maybe giving a timeline, of what they think is likely to happen in the gulf over the next year or so?

there is almost nothing those big oil and government guys could not get away with on the bottom of the ocean, they knew that from day one. but eventually the ocean will give the game away, which is why i'm asking what people think will happen.
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Probably multiple years. Scientists will say there's still leaks. BP will say there aren't. Hidden plumes. Regular clandestine Corexit overflights. More and more fish die. More and more people get sick. A couple years out it'll be old news but the Gulf will be dead in large spots (50% dead) and the coastal areas will be economically devastated, just like the lower wards in New Orleans which are still empty.

Unless ... there's a big methane eruption, then all bets are off and it'll get really freaky ...
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So what happened?

Can someone explain it?

They did a "top kill" on the OLD B well and all that did was cause the oil to seep out through the cracks below (hence the low pressure)?

Or the OLD B well was just hooked up to some Shell pipes and the oil was pumped out?

Won't the relief wells eventually solve this anyway?

Wasn't the "new" A well site already dead --- so how did they get the oil to flow originally, before they capped it, for all to see?
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Today I called all my local papers, as well as all my local news stations. I even called CNN in Atlanta and Fox in NY. Only one of the channels I believe took me seriously. One asked me to hold and left me on hold for over 10 minutes. Two of them listened to me but didn't ask for any other info and the conversation ended with them even asking for my name. Two others were voicemails. CNN listened to me then transfered me to a VM. FOX does not provide a number to call except for a viewer line which is a VM. No one in the MSM cares about it, or does not believe it. I feel that some of us should call in to national radio shows and attempt to get online to talk about this. That would be the best way to spread the info to everyone.
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So what happened?

Can someone explain it?

They did a "top kill" on the OLD B well and all that did was cause the oil to seep out through the cracks below (hence the low pressure)?

Or the OLD B well was just hooked up to some Shell pipes and the oil was pumped out?

Won't the relief wells eventually solve this anyway?

Wasn't the "new" A well site already dead --- so how did they get the oil to flow originally, before they capped it, for all to see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 914422



This guy nailed it on Page 5

The theory I am working with right now is that they used well A to try a hydraulic fracking procedure to open up the low-pressure transverse feeder section of a high pressure dome (the Biloxi Dome) fed by a super-high pressure deep earth reservoir of abiotic VOC. They were then going to use well B as an experimental production well on the reservoir created in the transverse section.

See this on wikipedia for a visualization of the voilcano. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

If you see the DWH area, they are in a canyon on the downslope of the Biloxi dome. [link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]

I suspect they lost control of the fracking procedure in an area high in methane hydrate. The combination of the fracked rock releasing it's natural gas (this by the way is how new NG wells are done... into porous rock that holds the gas, then they break the rock with fracking fluids... polluting huge parts of Appalachian ground water) and the increased temperature of the sea bed (near ocean temp at the mudline, similar to permafrost... good at holding methane at those temps) from the increased flow of very hot (240F+ oil) led to a substantial increase in the pressure on the Biloxi Dome and natural seeping from that area increased at a geometric rate.

BP and the government then went into damage control mode and attempted to rush complete well B in order to relieve the pressure on the dome system or to pump artificial reservoir in the transverse area full of kill fluid and eventually cement. Of course, that went wrong too.

So, for the record, we now have two leaking wells, a leaking fault line between them, and natural high pressure formation with geological seeps that has been suddenly over pressurized by man-made industrial manipulation.

That is what is going on in the gulf from a simple and humble mentat and a patriotic american. Idol1

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Thank you so much for this! It is the clearest explanation of what is actually happening.

(Gulf residents have been claiming that there is still a huge presence of oil on the surface, where they live in Louisiana.)

As for real and accurate research, also shown by OP's video, you guys are asking the real questions. If there are now TWO very serious blowouts and the seafloor is seeping, what are we looking at now? Their beloved nuclear option?


Your welcome... I have been following this for some time with a diversity of sources. I find it interesting how seemingly significant facts are widely available and accepted, yet not picked up by the echo chamber, at the start of these sorts of things and then eventually get buried and uncovered again as "fringe" knowledge that is difficult to express to the people who have become saturated with MSM and lunatic conspiracy nonsense. Same can be said of a lot of expert and specialist knowledge.
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well is still leaking right? they just switch

cameras to fool people...
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Do you think BP's the only company that does this? Its just the one thats currently got caught. But im not siding with bp, im just sayin.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he did not exist!

This video is not for the weak minded, you must be able to think critically.

[link to www.youtube.com]

The oil spill is over please fuck off with your dis info
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Nice shill tactic. Obvious, though.
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I would like to fallow this thread !!
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I feel that some of us should call in to national radio shows and attempt to get online to talk about this. That would be the best way to spread the info to everyone.
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What? like NPR? grrrrr, don't get me started...I heard just about enough from their 'science' experts. Government radio, bahhhhh.


OP you have done very well with your efforts. Maybe Pensacola Greg would link with you...Good luck and thank you for vid.
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The video is right. Check out the current live feeds for Skandi ROV 1 and 2. The coordinates are nearer to those of well A, not well B!!!
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Related:

German language video:


PROOF -- BP Deepwater Horizon Drilled TWO Wells That Blew Out on FEB 13 and APR 20:
Thread: PROOF -- BP Deepwater Horizon Drilled TWO Wells That Blew Out on FEB 13 and APR 20
SECOND SPILL:
Thread: SECOND SPILL (Page 4)
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I agree that something is not right about these coordinates. That said, allow me to first point out a discrepancy in the permit doc. The PDF Map coords are the correct coords for both Wells. The coords given on the chart for Well B is wrong. The N coord on chart is 10434194.00 and on the map is 10431494.00.

That is obviously a mis-print. When I plug in the coords you give on the video before TS Bonnie, for Well B, against the map coords, there is a difference of 433ft (333S and 277E from map loc).

Plugging in the coords for Well A after TS Bonnie, there is a difference of 232ft (68N and 222W from map loc).

I used the ROV Coordinate Calculator at
[link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]
to get these numbers. To me... this makes everything even more suspicious. Someone please check me on this.
 Quoting: RenegadeSon

RenegadeSon, I'm with you on this! Just spent an hour going over the video, pausing and backing up....like crazy! I did see where the plat (map) had what is probably the correct north coordinate and the permit doc. was probably a typo! Also what seemed suspicious to me was the coordinates on the first BOP ROV shot in the video that had Well "B"'s x coord. and Well "A"'s y coordinate, or close to it!
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The video is right. Check out the current live feeds for Skandi ROV 1 and 2. The coordinates are nearer to those of well A, not well B!!!
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bump
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Yup, Skandi is in a direct line SW from well A(The ROV is 69 feet south and 95 feet west of the leak point. The ROV is 117.41 linear feet away from the leak point.) towards well B.

A direct line! the 'caldera' is in line with the two blown out wells. I wonder what else is out there. Why is there still so much Methane hydrate in the water surrounding the pictured bop?
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So let me get this straight. They are purposely showing a well that is not leaking whilst the other one is?
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Well hmm? On closer inspection how do you know the distance from the original leak to the close up of the BOP? The last video sequence was filmed on the BOP.....
this means we need footage from both the old video section and the new videio section and both of them needs to be from the BOP....
Otherwise it could be the location of the pipe leak and the BOP that makes the coordinates change...?? Right??

To me it says 585 and 685?? in the end of the coordinates...
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Look at the coordinates from this video with the pipe broken E1202658.41 n10430092.93 date 11/05/2010
[link to www.youtube.com]

then look at skandi -2 [link to tentdwellers.org] and the coordinates from the BOP they show us.

E1202709.92 N10431662.50 date 08/06/2010

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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he did not exist!

This video is not for the weak minded, you must be able to think critically.


[link to www.youtube.com]
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OH MY SCIENCE...!!!! wtf
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Well hmm? On closer inspection how do you know the distance from the original leak to the close up of the BOP? The last video sequence was filmed on the BOP.....
this means we need footage from both the old video section and the new videio section and both of them needs to be from the BOP....
Otherwise it could be the location of the pipe leak and the BOP that makes the coordinates change...?? Right??

To me it says 585 and 685?? in the end of the coordinates...


Look at the coordinates from this video with the pipe broken E1202658.41 n10430092.93 date 11/05/2010
[link to www.youtube.com]

then look at skandi -2 [link to tentdwellers.org] and the coordinates from the BOP they show us.

E1202709.92 N10431662.50 date 08/06/2010

Locoaz
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Somebody please make a graph. I have. All these numbers, the ones off the ROVs in the OPvid, the of the caldera in my post above, and now this previous video above:

ALL THESE POINTS MAKE ONE STRAIGHT LIINE! HELLO FISSURE!
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So what happened?

Can someone explain it?

They did a "top kill" on the OLD B well and all that did was cause the oil to seep out through the cracks below (hence the low pressure)?

Or the OLD B well was just hooked up to some Shell pipes and the oil was pumped out?

Won't the relief wells eventually solve this anyway?

Wasn't the "new" A well site already dead --- so how did they get the oil to flow originally, before they capped it, for all to see?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 914422



The blown out well is well B, leaking like crazy.
The original live feeds of the leaking well from BP showed the coordinates of the submersibles.

The storm came in and they moved out.

After the storm was over they moved back in and claim that they have capped the leaking well.
They show us video of the capped well but the the coordinates of the submersibles do not match the coordinates of the blown out well.

What is means is either:
1) the navigation systems of the submersibles are malfunctioning ( which is what BP will say if this information ever makes it into mainstream)

2) the leaking well has somehow moved across the bottom of the gulf

3) BP is showing us video of a different well head.


I have my money on #3.

Now why would they do this?
I think they wold do something like this is remove the extreme public pressure on their company to save their stock value.

If the original well is still leaking ( which we have to assume it is since there would be no reason for them to try and deceive us by showing us video feed from another location ) I hope that they are still busy trying to cap the original.

This information needs to be be spread. It wont do anyone any good to keep it here on GLP. Email your news stations, call your radio stations. email your government representatives.

BP is trying to tell the world that the well is capped when it isn't.
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So let me get this straight. They are purposely showing a well that is not leaking whilst the other one is?
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according to the coordinates being displayed on the submersibles, yes.
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So what happened?

Can someone explain it?

They did a "top kill" on the OLD B well and all that did was cause the oil to seep out through the cracks below (hence the low pressure)?

Or the OLD B well was just hooked up to some Shell pipes and the oil was pumped out?

Won't the relief wells eventually solve this anyway?

Wasn't the "new" A well site already dead --- so how did they get the oil to flow originally, before they capped it, for all to see?



The blown out well is well B, leaking like crazy.
The original live feeds of the leaking well from BP showed the coordinates of the submersibles.

The storm came in and they moved out.

After the storm was over they moved back in and claim that they have capped the leaking well.
They show us video of the capped well but the the coordinates of the submersibles do not match the coordinates of the blown out well.

What is means is either:
1) the navigation systems of the submersibles are malfunctioning ( which is what BP will say if this information ever makes it into mainstream)

2) the leaking well has somehow moved across the bottom of the gulf

3) BP is showing us video of a different well head.


I have my money on #3.

Now why would they do this?
I think they wold do something like this is remove the extreme public pressure on their company to save their stock value.

If the original well is still leaking ( which we have to assume it is since there would be no reason for them to try and deceive us by showing us video feed from another location ) I hope that they are still busy trying to cap the original.

This information needs to be be spread. It wont do anyone any good to keep it here on GLP. Email your news stations, call your radio stations. email your government representatives.

BP is trying to tell the world that the well is capped when it isn't.
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Already FB'd it.......for what that's worth!!!!!
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the displayed depth is off by 100 feet also.

This "capped" well is not the same well that we saw leaking before.
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Excellent video, OP. I think the lack of response is from brain drain. We are all so burned out from their lies. The suffering of the people on the Gulf coast is beyond comprehension.

Matt Simmons was right in his analysis.
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