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****AWESOME New Video!!!!****** Bp's Biggest Cover Up/Lie Yet!!!!!

 
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GOOD WORK!

Well B was nuked. That was the 3.0 earthquake. They had to move the cameras because of that. The government is complicit because they are hiding what they did. It provides a legitimate use for nuclear weapons for countries that are currently denied them.

Peace!
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BINGO!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 942430


I think it is more likely that they connected the "top hat" from well B to a Shell oil pipeline running through MC 252 for collection.

I know everyone likes to connect everything but the earthquake was probably conincidential. Also, if they were to use explosives, it is far more likely they would use a custom blasting compound with exactly the force and expansion rate their engineering told them would be best for the type of conditions they were working with.

The "nuke the well" stuff came up as a result of some smart people who found out that the Ruskies during the Cold War were successful 5 out of 6 times with natural gas wells on the surface. No one has ever attempted to explosively close a deep sea well.

Also, I have heard a great deal that this can only be done with nukes specifically in rock formations because the goal is to create a "glass dome" (as a result of the heat) which contains the pressure of the oil. I have heard industry people describe the material they were drilling into as "pudding" in places, a term I figured as a derisive term for loose or fluffy mud. If they were to try to close the well with explosives it is more likely they would try to collapse a rocky strata into the well formation.
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So even if we knew 100% what they are trying to accomplish, it's not like there is anything we could do to stop it.

If you believe that you have truly lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044780


What the hell are you gonna do, buddy? Go down thousands of feet underwater and plug that well yourself? Give me a break. I'm not for outright pessimism, but you're delusional if you think you can fight these multinational corporations. Get a fookin' clue.
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So even if we knew 100% what they are trying to accomplish, it's not like there is anything we could do to stop it.

If you believe that you have truly lost.


What the hell are you gonna do, buddy? Go down thousands of feet underwater and plug that well yourself? Give me a break. I'm not for outright pessimism, but you're delusional if you think you can fight these multinational corporations. Get a fookin' clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060523


And its attitudes like this that got is in trouble in the first place...

Give up, die, accept it!!!

Fuck that...expose it, tell your friends, co-workers, familes...Pass the info anyway you can..

People say there is nothing we can do...

Well BPs profits have plummeted and they are losing an enormous amount of money...

Hit em where it hurts...
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08/06/2010 11:01 PM
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Fuck that...expose it, tell your friends, co-workers, familes...Pass the info anyway you can..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1057478


Like working GLP for starters. And getting kicked off the last board you were on for five years because you talked too much about the GOM, and the site owner is a Texas off shore oil engineer.

That other guy above is complete sheeple ready for slaughter. Stay frosty!
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08/06/2010 11:02 PM
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"Unfortunately, The coordinates on the Rov can only be obtained By a GPS antenna on the surface. There is NO satellite signal available 5 miles deep. So those coordinates show you where the Ship is setting. A ship that is not anchored to the bottom but is being controlled by a captain to keep it close to the area. So claiming this is proof that BP is lying is a lie on it's own."

Hmm...


Why would it be shown on the video stream then?
 Quoting: sum_peeps



Don't listen to that guy he's a dumb sack of shit. The Coordinates shown on the ROVs are coordinates of the ROVs. Period.
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i knew something was fishy
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08/06/2010 11:10 PM
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Now we need to figure out the exact day they switched the position of the ROVs.
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It seems they're unable to process this information over at The Oil Drum. Interesting.

[link to www.theoildrum.com]
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Now we need to figure out the exact day they switched the position of the ROVs.
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good idea, i'll go through my screen shot collection since inception. If I find any info i'll post later tonight. anyone else got a screen shot collection of this event?
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08/06/2010 11:16 PM
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Look here a leak from the seabed:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Now we need to figure out the exact day they switched the position of the ROVs.
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They didn't switch the position of the ROVs on any specific day.
They've been showing both locations the whole time interchangeably depending on what they wanted people to see at any given time.

May 27...Location "a"
[link to www.youtube.com]

June 7...Location "b"
[link to www.youtube.com]

August 4...Location "a"
[link to www.youtube.com]
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08/06/2010 11:27 PM
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I wouldn't normally post (am content to read the threads only) but working with GIS data is something I do and I put the well coordinates and camera location (as I myself read them from the camera video) into a program called Global Mapper (the demo version is free and will let you calculate all the distances). What I found is the following:

Well MC252_A coordinates 88 21 57.340W and 28 44 17.277N (NAD27 datum) converted into NAD27 UTM16 coordinates by Global Mapper as 1202803.865 10431616.96 (a difference from the BP UTM coordinates listed on their own official maps of less than 0.05 of a foot for both values).

Well MC252_B coordinates 88 22 00.581W and 28 44 16.027N (NAD27 Datum) converted into NAD27 UTM16 coordinates by Global Mapper as 1202513.958 10431494.04 (a difference from the BP UTM coordinates listed on their own official maps of less than 0.05 of a foot for both values).

I read the camera UTM coordinates to be 1202791.24 10431601 (though they changed throughout the camera video by approximately 1-2 feet or less) which converted in Global Mapper to NAD27 88 21 57.4798W 28 44 17.1176N.

Straight point to point lines showed with the above coordinates that:

Between MC252_B and camera the distance was 297.25 feet (90.6018 meters),

Between MC252_A and camera the distance was 20.351 feet (6.2029848 meters),

Between MC252_A and MC252_B the distance is 314.94 feet (95.993712 meters).

What does this mean to me? Well before we could conclusively state that BP filmed the CAP being installed onto MC252_A instead of MC252_B we need to know exactly how the coordinates for the camera were calculated AND whether anything could have caused the seabed at the wells to shift 270+ feet in a straight line right towards where the MC252_A original location is (which, in my opinion, can not be the case).

Even if we can determine that they capped and filmed the wrong well to deceive the public, exactly who will tell the public at large and who will listen?

If we can get some experts to explain to us how the camera coordinates are determined then personally I would be willing to take it further to make it known to the public. So how about you?

Note: Though I am from Australia it doesn't mean I don't care or shouldn't post about things that go on outside of my home country. I am only trying to offer support and help get to the bottom of this, even if it doesn't directly affect me or the community I live in (yet).
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Now we need to figure out the exact day they switched the position of the ROVs.


They didn't switch the position of the ROVs on any specific day.
They've been showing both locations the whole time interchangeably depending on what they wanted people to see at any given time.

May 27...Location "a"
[link to www.youtube.com]

June 7...Location "b"
[link to www.youtube.com]

August 4...Location "a"
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1005606


I was noticing that as well, there seems to be bits of the rig scattered throughout. For instance, before we got all the way back to the BOP - there were chunks of the riser that was somewhere in between the two positions (which makes sense with as much piping as they had)
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08/06/2010 11:49 PM
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Based upon both wells coordinates

I came across this photo of the leaking well is well A on june 10th

[link to i618.photobucket.com]

the ROV taking the shot is literally right about the blasting well

Doom is on again but not for mother nature...
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compare for yourself, the coordinates are:

MC252 Well A - the first Abandoned well
X=1,202,803.88'
Y=10,431,617,00'


MC252 Well B - Deep Water Horizon Well
X=1,202,514.00'
Y=10,431,494.00'
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08/07/2010 12:09 AM
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Boa Deep C ROV 2 looks to be at MC252b right now.

Go here:
[link to realitycheck.no-ip.info]

Click on Boa Deep C ROV 2...then click "launch application".
Once the player is running turn the brightness down a bit and the contrast up all the way.

The camera is sometimes viewing the sea floor and sometimes viewing a BOP stack a short distance away. When it's showing the stack you will see a truly major amount of seepage in that whole area.

MC252b is a big mess. Could someone please get a youtube video of this thing right now.
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08/07/2010 12:12 AM
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well,well...what do we have here :). good post OP ty
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There's definitely 2 stacks down there and 252b is a major problem right now.
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well,well...what do we have here :). good post OP ty
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Any time. I was glad to make this video for the public at large.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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08/07/2010 12:28 AM
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How does the pin on this get dropped?? And a meteor shower stays up??

This has more combined top star votes than all the pins combined right now and more views, and it has been up for less than a day??? I'll never get this site sometime. I thought this is something you would want to keep up for awhile. Get the people thinking before the close the curtains on this thing.
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bump
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bump
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Come on keep it pinned for at least a day!!

For: People who have no seen. This will just get lost in the garbage other wise.

bump
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Goodbye sweet video. lol Hopefully you have reached enough people to have been informative!! Thank you to everyone for the kind responses, I really appreciate it!!!! banana2 rockon chorus ROBOTdance blair dance
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This made me dig through my screen caps. I picked out a few coordinates for anyone that wants to plot them.

Here are the numbers:

6/15
Skandi 1 - E 1202769.98 N 10431628.44
Skandi 2 - E 1202390.14 N 10431750.09

(Both readings come from the same screen cap. If I'm reading them correctly - the skandi's were each at a different well)

7/11
Skandi 2 - E 1202781.27 N 10431545.44

7/15
Skandi 1 - E 1202746.56 N 10431631.53

I'll spend some more looking through all my pics (I have 100's - but a lot of them are of the "mystery" packages) and pull out the relevant ones and get them posted online.
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08/07/2010 03:53 AM
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The theory I am working with right now is that they used well A to try a hydraulic fracking procedure to open up the low-pressure transverse feeder section of a high pressure dome (the Biloxi Dome) fed by a super-high pressure deep earth reservoir of abiotic VOC. They were then going to use well B as an experimental production well on the reservoir created in the transverse section.

See this on wikipedia for a visualization of the voilcano. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

If you see the DWH area, they are in a canyon on the downslope of the Biloxi dome. [link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]

I suspect they lost control of the fracking procedure in an area high in methane hydrate. The combination of the fracked rock releasing it's natural gas (this by the way is how new NG wells are done... into porous rock that holds the gas, then they break the rock with fracking fluids... polluting huge parts of Appalachian ground water) and the increased temperature of the sea bed (near ocean temp at the mudline, similar to permafrost... good at holding methane at those temps) from the increased flow of very hot (240F+ oil) led to a substantial increase in the pressure on the Biloxi Dome and natural seeping from that area increased at a geometric rate.

BP and the government then went into damage control mode and attempted to rush complete well B in order to relieve the pressure on the dome system or to pump artificial reservoir in the transverse area full of kill fluid and eventually cement. Of course, that went wrong too.

So, for the record, we now have two leaking wells, a leaking fault line between them, and natural high pressure formation with geological seeps that has been suddenly over pressurized by man-made industrial manipulation.

That is what is going on in the gulf from a simple and humble mentat and a patriotic american. Idol1

I take no sides, I only call it how I see it. I just think everyone should have a fighting chance with knowledge and dignity. My fate is to be a humble servant.
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Dude, nice pull.
Watch your back, though. Too much accuracy or variance from the hive will get you a bee-sting.
Take care and don't get b---ed.
Thanks, good input,
Erik...logging dead sea turtles.
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Goodbye sweet video. lol Hopefully you have reached enough people to have been informative!! Thank you to everyone for the kind responses, I really appreciate it!!!! banana2 rockon chorus ROBOTdance blair dance
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021078


OP, great job on the post and the video!

I would like to commend several others on this very important and enlightening thread: AC 1059702, RabbitTheRat, AC 1052368, and Proud American (for the great link).
You guys rock!

OP, and AC 1059702, please stick with this thread 'til the end. This is great stuff and needs to be released further. This post and thread may not last, but you all helped in expediting a very important message. Don't worry, the internet is a very powerful info tool to us, the masses. Keep up the vigilance, the rest of us are counting on you.

My only fear is that sites like GLP will suffer with various limitations over the next year...

Respectfully,
Erik... recording satellite images.
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Thank you. had a little bit of a writters block and came up with that video, put me in a better mood.

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