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Bump, but with a question also.

Has anyone heard a peep from Matt Simmons in the last month or so?

I think maybe when he went public and said he was short BP stock that he put himself in front of some possible litigation and was told by lawyers to lay low.

The other question is why is there no more infromation about the "other video" making rounds from May 29 that shows the oil gushing from the bottom of the gulf and with no apparent riser pipe etc?

The theory proposed in this thread would exclude the existence of this spew?

Hungry for the answers and more info.
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Bump, but with a question also.

Has anyone heard a peep from Matt Simmons in the last month or so?

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I think he decided to get involved in the nuke somehow and now he's gagged...
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Matt Simmons has inside information and therefore puts himself, and his source at great risk if he speaks the exact knowledge he has.

Here is my working theory:

The theory I am working with right now is that they used well A to try a hydraulic fracking procedure to open up the low-pressure transverse feeder section of a high pressure dome (the Biloxi Dome) fed by a super-high pressure deep earth reservoir of abiotic VOC. They were then going to use well B as an experimental production well on the reservoir created in the transverse section.

See this on wikipedia for a visualization of the voilcano. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

If you see the DWH area, they are in a canyon on the downslope of the Biloxi dome. [link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]

I suspect they lost control of the fracking procedure in an area high in methane hydrate. The combination of the fracked rock releasing it's natural gas (this by the way is how new NG wells are done... into porous rock that holds the gas, then they break the rock with fracking fluids... polluting huge parts of Appalachian ground water) and the increased temperature of the sea bed (near ocean temp at the mudline, similar to permafrost... good at holding methane at those temps) from the increased flow of very hot (240F+ oil) led to a substantial increase in the pressure on the Biloxi Dome and natural seeping from that area increased at a geometric rate.

BP and the government then went into damage control mode and attempted to rush complete well B in order to relieve the pressure on the dome system or to pump artificial reservoir in the transverse area full of kill fluid and eventually cement. Of course, that went wrong too.

So, for the record, we now have two leaking wells, a leaking fault line between them, and natural high pressure formation with geological seeps that has been suddenly over pressurized by man-made industrial manipulation.

That is what is going on in the gulf from a simple and humble mentat and a patriotic american. Idol1

I take no sides, I only call it how I see it. I just think everyone should have a fighting chance with knowledge and dignity. My fate is to be a humble servant."
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Assuming I am on to the truth, I am guessing he conflated the leaks at the Biloxi Dome with the leak at well B. So he basically said, they blew out two wells, and there one of them is an open hole into the ocean, and I am saying they blew out two wells AND they have an open hole into the ocean. If well A was not leaking at the time he said what he said, then his statements are functionally equivalent to what I have said.
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Bump, but with a question also.

Has anyone heard a peep from Matt Simmons in the last month or so?



I think he decided to get involved in the nuke somehow and now he's gagged...
 Quoting: Macchendra


They didn't nuke well B. They are running the top hat connection to the Shell oil pipeline.

You can't nuke a mud and gas hydrate rich ocean floor and expect a good result. Again, all the Russian wells were 1) on land 2) rock 3) all natural gas.

Sheesh. sheeplebah
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The other oil thread that should be pinned aside from the VOLCANIC DOME thread. bump
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Bump for some more thoughts and info. it aint over....
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bump bump bump

This needs to be PINNED,

please?
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GLP never listens to the people. Please there might me a monkey with a dogs head found on mars, with a link. Seriously what is up with this place. Sometime they just pin crap to take away from any credibility this place has. Like 34's posts for instance.

bump bump bump bump bump As per the people request!!!!!!!!!!!
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bump i agree OP ur last post
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transocean information\
[link to www.deepwater.com]
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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If this post from the thread Thread: OIL DISASTER - I got some inside info from a buddy of mine just now is true, then this essentially confirms my theory, which I actually came up with before I had read this, really!

I will not reveal who no matter what. Take it for what it is, I assure this information is accurate.

If you feel the need to raise the BS Flag, so be it. I won't battle you shills and nay-sayers any more.

First time I heard from them in a while since the last time I posted.

Apparently there is a huge fissure running parallel with the well. This fissure was purposely created to gain access to the reserve below. The drilled passage is not 100% steel pipe tip-to-tip. The last several hundred feet utilizes the fissure as the source.

The fissure running parallel to the well is spider webbing near the surface. Where the steel pipe meets the fissure deep into the formation is eroded open. When the well is left open most of the pressure is released through the steel pipe. When the well is capped the pressure is surging oil outside the steel pipe and into the rock formation.

But it isn't so black and white. There is still oil being pushed through the formation when the well is open. This is why the BOP was opened up at the top, hoping to prevent the oil from spreading in the rock formation.

The fissure that runs parallel to the well severely complicates any use of explosives to pinch the well shut, including nuclear explosions.

At the present time there is no real solution to the issue.

Any use of nuclear explosions could easily spread the fissure from the reserve to the sea floor and cause a blow out so massive it will dwarf any natural disaster known to man so far.

Primarily they are mapping the formation below in greater details to aid in designing a solution.

In short, they don't have a solid planned solution yet.

And he/she still highly recommends NO TRAVELING this summer.
 Quoting: ºCRAPº


Matt Simmons has inside information and therefore puts himself, and his source at great risk if he speaks the exact knowledge he has.

Here is my working theory:

The theory I am working with right now is that they used well A to try a hydraulic fracking procedure to open up the low-pressure transverse feeder section of a high pressure dome (the Biloxi Dome) fed by a super-high pressure deep earth reservoir of abiotic VOC. They were then going to use well B as an experimental production well on the reservoir created in the transverse section.

See this on wikipedia for a visualization of the voilcano. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

If you see the DWH area, they are in a canyon on the downslope of the Biloxi dome. [link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]

I suspect they lost control of the fracking procedure in an area high in methane hydrate. The combination of the fracked rock releasing it's natural gas (this by the way is how new NG wells are done... into porous rock that holds the gas, then they break the rock with fracking fluids... polluting huge parts of Appalachian ground water) and the increased temperature of the sea bed (near ocean temp at the mudline, similar to permafrost... good at holding methane at those temps) from the increased flow of very hot (240F+ oil) led to a substantial increase in the pressure on the Biloxi Dome and natural seeping from that area increased at a geometric rate.

BP and the government then went into damage control mode and attempted to rush complete well B in order to relieve the pressure on the dome system or to pump artificial reservoir in the transverse area full of kill fluid and eventually cement. Of course, that went wrong too.

So, for the record, we now have two leaking wells, a leaking fault line between them, and natural high pressure formation with geological seeps that has been suddenly over pressurized by man-made industrial manipulation.

That is what is going on in the gulf from a simple and humble mentat and a patriotic american. Idol1

I take no sides, I only call it how I see it. I just think everyone should have a fighting chance with knowledge and dignity. My fate is to be a humble servant."

Assuming I am on to the truth, I am guessing he conflated the leaks at the Biloxi Dome with the leak at well B. So he basically said, they blew out two wells, and there one of them is an open hole into the ocean, and I am saying they blew out two wells AND they have an open hole into the ocean. If well A was not leaking at the time he said what he said, then his statements are functionally equivalent to what I have said.
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On a related note, I hope I don't die soon. yoda
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For those who do not know what "fracking" is: [link to www.rigzone.com]

"Production can be achieved in these wells via a production stimulation method called well fracturing. Performed above the reservoir formation fracture pressure, well fracturing causes a highly conductive flow path between the reservoir and the wellbore. Well fracturing actually breaks or splits the reservoir rock open to encourage hydrocarbons to flow from the rocks into the well."
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Go to the following link and turn on Satellite view.

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

Note the unusual seafloor contours.

Now place your mouse pointer in the general area of the flotilla of DWH / MC252 support vessels.

Write down the subsequent coordinates of your mouse pointer and the flotilla as displayed in the lower left-hand corner, just to the right of the map's scale.

Note that the BOA Sub C is anchored at:
28.7390 N 88.3548 W (latlong)


Also note the US registered Christian Chouest cargo ship moored 23 miles to the SE at MC519, over the Herschel oil field and just to the East of the NA KIKA platform.

BOA Sub C ROV's live "DISPLAYED" location indicates it is situated near MC252 - Well A:
N 10431610.00 E 1202799.01 (Lamber X-Y)

If you first convert the ROV's Lamber X-Y coordinates from US feet to meters you can then plot the ROV's position accurately using Google Maps.

Note that both of these map plots are consistent with the flotilla's and MC252's location.

Now go to Google Maps with Satellite view turned on and type in the (latlong) MV252 well coordinates that BP submitted to MMS, which can be found at:
[link to www.biologicaldiversity.org]

MC252 Well-A: 28.44.17 N 88.21.57 W
For Google Maps round to: "28.442 N 88.221 W"

MC252 Well-B: 28.44.16 N 88.22.00 W
For Google Maps round to: "28.442 N 88.220 W"

Note that the latlong location of the 2 MC252 exploratory wells, as officially submitted by BP and verified by MMS, are OFF BY 23 MILES to the SE!!!!

BP's officially submitted latlong coordinates would place their 2 test wells in the immediate vicinity of the FOURIER OIL & GAS field. Note that this and other surrounding fields are all serviced by the NA KIKA platform located at MC474. Also note on the following Gulf Floor map that the main pipeline servicing the NA KIKA also just happens to pass right through MC252.

[link to www.offshore-mag.com]

Also note on the official map of MC252 submitted to MMS that Shell (who is partnered with BP on this project) has previously drilled 2 other wells, BOTH labeled SHL001, within lease block MC252.

We should probably keep an eye on the NA KIKA and the FOURIER oil & gas fields for any further suspicious activity.
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Go to the following link and turn on Satellite view.

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

Note the unusual seafloor contours.

Now place your mouse pointer in the general area of the flotilla of DWH / MC252 support vessels.

Write down the subsequent coordinates of your mouse pointer and the flotilla as displayed in the lower left-hand corner, just to the right of the map's scale.

Note that the BOA Sub C is anchored at:
28.7390 N 88.3548 W (latlong)


Also note the US registered Christian Chouest cargo ship moored 23 miles to the SE at MC519, over the Herschel oil field and just to the East of the NA KIKA platform.

BOA Sub C ROV's live "DISPLAYED" location indicates it is situated near MC252 - Well A:
N 10431610.00 E 1202799.01 (Lamber X-Y)

If you first convert the ROV's Lamber X-Y coordinates from US feet to meters you can then plot the ROV's position accurately using Google Maps.

Note that both of these map plots are consistent with the flotilla's and MC252's location.

Now go to Google Maps with Satellite view turned on and type in the (latlong) MV252 well coordinates that BP submitted to MMS, which can be found at:
[link to www.biologicaldiversity.org]

MC252 Well-A: 28.44.17 N 88.21.57 W
For Google Maps round to: "28.442 N 88.221 W"

MC252 Well-B: 28.44.16 N 88.22.00 W
For Google Maps round to: "28.442 N 88.220 W"

Note that the latlong location of the 2 MC252 exploratory wells, as officially submitted by BP and verified by MMS, are OFF BY 23 MILES to the SE!!!!

BP's officially submitted latlong coordinates would place their 2 test wells in the immediate vicinity of the FOURIER OIL & GAS field. Note that this and other surrounding fields are all serviced by the NA KIKA platform located at MC474. Also note on the following Gulf Floor map that the main pipeline servicing the NA KIKA also just happens to pass right through MC252.

[link to www.offshore-mag.com]

Also note on the official map of MC252 submitted to MMS that Shell (who is partnered with BP on this project) has previously drilled 2 other wells, BOTH labeled SHL001, within lease block MC252.

We should probably keep an eye on the NA KIKA and the FOURIER oil & gas fields for any further suspicious activity.
 Quoting: Bottom Dweller 900491


great catch, so what does it all mean Basil??
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