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I am saying that if you check out her story on the Pasco County records both Property records and court records, you are going to find all the answers that you need. I am not going to spoonfeed anyone any imformation.
You can look it up just like I did. |
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What I do know is this. Earlier this year, we had to foreclose on a piece of property that was sold on land contract, rather than be stuck with it over a 1,000 miles away we sold it to a realtor. There was a quitclaim deed involved, and there was no court records of the sale it's self only the record that listed the amount that it was sold for and who bought it with the property appraisor's office.
That sure looks like it is the case here. |
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Laura is caught lying again. Sheesh she just can't stop.
Lisa investigates Rense and concludes that he is an agent because his father worked for Hughes Aircraft 30 years ago but Ark is not an agent even though he worked for DARPA less than 5 years ago.
Brains are not her first quality.
Doesn't she know what one has to do to get through a security clearance for DARPA? You don't just quit DARPA, once in, you're in for life. It doesn't matter what Ark did for them, they would never let him just go, he might tell someone their secrets. But the idiots that are in the cult can't think.
Laura is attacking everyone in the 911 movement, Bollyn, Rense, Jones. Why? Why attack these people. What does it get her? Why cause dissent and anger everywhere?
The only answer is that she is trying to destroy the movement, with instructions from Ark's bosses.
Lisa Guliani is in on it with her.
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Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani -- False Friends to 911 Truth by Captain May
A former Army intelligence and public affairs officer who
has spent the last three years tracking and interdicting Bush
administration terror plans exposes the double-dealing side
of the alternative media, focusing on the Wing TV team of
Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani, who have deliberately
sabotaged the ongoing efforts by the 911 Truth Movement
to spread word to endangered areas of possible pending
911's.
Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani --
False Friends to 911 Truth.
For the last three years, I have been self-mobilized as a
former Army intelligence and public affairs officer working
in the perilous counter-terrorism field -- with a peculiar twist:
I think that the Bush administration is the terror group
against which wemust defend ourselves. As those who
have published my work -- or published articles about it --
can attest, my intelligence group, Ghost Troop, is the
cutting edge of the American Resistance to future false flag
terror attempts.
A quick search-engine check of "Ghost Troop Captain
May" will turn up hundreds of articles published in dozens
of countries.
Lately we've become a focus of the Lone Star Iconoclast,
published in Central Texas and read around the world for its
candor about Bush, and while he's in Crawford on his
summer break, he's reading our work.
Now that the 911 Truth Movement is gaining momentum, I
intend to publish articles naming the names of those
alternative media figures who are "false friends," meaning
that they have collaborated with the Bush administration,
while posing as helpers of the 911 Truth Movement. My
conviction that such people, Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani
among them, are a great danger to the movement and the
country.
Thorn and Guliani have done everything they could to
sabotage genuine efforts to interdict false flag terror attacks
-- and have published articles that make it clear enough that
such was their purpose. In this essay I'll stick to what I
know as a principle participant, and what has been
published in mainstream, non-alternative venues to back my
claims.
There are two particular instances in which the two Wing
TV hosts have collaborated with the feds to sabotage the
movement and cooperate with the feds to set up US cities.
How the 911 Truth Movement Saved Texas City (1/31/06)
In January, 2006, my cyber-intelligence unit, Ghost Troop,
became aware of nuclear terror exercises being run out of Ft.
Monroe, VA and Charleston, SC. Although the people
running the exercises denied that Texas City was involved,
we thought otherwise, and began to say so through
interviews and articles. Our efforts garnered the attention of
a wide array of a dozen alternate media figures, most
prominently Greg Szymanski, with whom I did several
interviews in advance of our prediction date of a 1/31/06
attempt.
Greg Szymanski wrote four articles as our mission to
preempt the planned attack progressed to its successful
culmination, and they pretty much connect the dots on how
we used our extensive network of Texas City contacts to
develop our analysis and prediction.
His first article, written after we had spoken for a couple of
hours about the signs pointing toward the terror event,
carried the bold title, All Signposts Lead to Imminent
Nuclear Attack In America; his last, published after our
prediction date for the nuclear attack, was Texas City British
Petroleum Employee Heard "Strange Abort Signal" on Local
Radio Station.
The last Szymanski article contained the same information
as a mainstream article by TJ Aulds of the Galveston
County Daily News, published Feb. 2. As the article
admitted, the day after the Ghost Troop prediction of a
nuclear attempt against Texas City, day after nuclear forces
for the Department of Defense were out in force on local
beaches, setting up their equipment! It had all been
unknown to local media, and even to my Houston Police
CID contacts.
The only excuse the official mouthpieces of the various
involved departments (FBI, Homeseca and the military --
anyone surprised?) was that any appearance of a
connection between the Ghost Troop warnings of the
previous two weeks and the apparent confirmation of those
warnings by the presence of nuclear assets was
"coincidence."
I'll include the Szymanski articles below the essay, but the
mainstream confirmation is not to be missed, as it gives the
whole scam away while trying to explaining it away. Had it
not been for a panic in the city (acknowledged by the
article), the whole thing would no doubt have been kept to
our alternative media efforts:
truthdefender.homeunix.com/~hutch/Capt_May/Galv
eston.pdf
A local minister, Jon Watkins, was also part of the attempt
to shut down the attack that he saw coming. He goes on
the hero list for the risks he took in confronting local and
federal agencies, trying to save the lives of his family and
friends, and his own comments on the TJ Aulds article are
worth a read, as they show the rage locals felt at the effort
to shut down our warning:
www.government-propaganda.com/thank-you.html
Our results were wonderful to a 911 Truth Movement that
usually doesn't get such proof, and they spread quickly
through publications in Australia, Canada, Ireland and even
Germany. The feds were livid at the aborted attempt, and
the movement was delighted!
The Disinfo Counterattack by Thorn, Guliani -- and FBI's
Tim White
Why, in light of such extensive alternative media efforts
(and thank God for them!), along with such rare mainstream
confirmation, did Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani try to
destroy Greg Szymanski's career soon afterwards -- while
attacking Ghost Troop and me with every schoolyard insult
they could muster? Further, why were they following the
efforts of FBI COINTELPRO operative Tim White (their
ally), who also attacked Szymanski -- and several other
alternative media who had helped Ghost Troop to spread
warning of the impending attack? White's article actually
ran the day before the 1/31/06 prediction date, on 1/30/06, so
eager was the disinformation crowd to suppress the results
of our mission that they knew were valid!
I provide the links to the Thorn and Guliani attack articles,
which mirrored the efforts by FBI asset Tim White to
sabotage our warning to Texas City, except that while White
was trying to enable the attack, Thorn and Guliani were
going to inflict maximum damage on Szymanski to make sure
that no one was willing to cooperate with us to stop another
attack! I'll provide snippets with each link:
Greg Szymanski's Lies and Fakery (Wing TV)
www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/syzmanski2.html
"From day one, we here at WING TV said this was a hoax,
and it was - a 100% hoax. How did we know? Because the
information came from a crackpot named “Captain Eric May�
who leads what he calls “The Ghost Troops.�
"The Ghost Troops! They sound like something that should
be on the front of a cereal box for eight-year old children."
"Now, anyone who isn’t a complete horse’s ass would have
known this is Crackpot Rubbish 101 â€õ everyone except
Greg Szymanski."
"Y’see, Syzmanski didn’t only embarrass himself horribly,
he brought ridicule on the entire alternative media with his
shoddy journalism. Regrettably, sensationalism seems to be
Szymanski’s forte."
Greg Szymanksi: Be Very Wary (Wing TV)
www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/szymanski.html
"He ran with Captain May's "Imminent Nuclear Attack in
Texas City, Tx." It never happened, yet he blurted in his
headline that it was IMMINENT. How much more of this
National Enquirer style 'journalism' are we supposed to
tolerate?"
How the 911 Truth Movement Saved Chicago (5/2-4/06)
In late April, patriots from the Midwest sent us reports of
possible "Chicago 911" exercises being set up to simulate a
bio attack, followed by a building collapse (like the Sears
Tower, an announced "Al Qaeda" target since 9/11). Given
my Army background in military intelligence and public
affairs, I was quickly able to ascertain from top military and
police officials in the area that the exercises were real, and
planned for May 2-4.
On April 26, I published a worldwide alert about the danger
to Chicago, and Illinois Governor Blagojevich issued a press
release the next day, April 27, to cover his ass on the "drills"
that had been planned in secret for the last six months:
tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2006/05/ghost_troo
p_com.html
Once again, Ghost Troop had been right on target, on time,
to interdict a dangerous situation. I went on the Daniel Ott
show just before the attack date, and on other alternative
radio outlets as well, leading a classic Ghost Troop public
affairs blitz to stop the attacks before they could start with
widespread citizen awareness. Just to make our warning all
the more probable, it turned out that Chicago Mayor Daley
"just happened" to be in Israel while the feds (Homeseca in
the lead) "practiced" the destruction of his city:
cbs2chicago.com/seenon/local_story_124222134.html
The Irish 911 Truth Movement led the way among
international groups that published our results, and in fact
posted both our key Texas City (1/31/06) links along with
our Chicago 911 links:
www.911truth.ie/ghosttroop.html
The Disinfo Counterattack by Thorn, Guliani -- and FBI's
Tim White
Once again, Wing TV went on the attack -- not against the
feds who were setting up Chicago, but against the patriots
who dared to suggest a set-up! They again tried to attack
the Texas City results, and attacked any notion that
anything could have been amiss in Chicago.
Our results were invalid, according to them, and I was
simply crazy for claiming them. Apparently quite familiar
with FBI asset Tim White, they set him up as an adversary
against Ghost Troop:
Top Ten Patriot Debates (Wing TV)
www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/debate2.html
"First it was the “imminent� Texas City, Texas nuclear attack
that never took place, then the non-existent Chicago
attacks; not to mention a litany of other nonsense based on
bogus “numerology� that derives from “Captain� May’s
deluded mind (with his "Ghost Troop" theme music playing
in the background - cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo)."
Wrapping Up the False Friend Report
Just as there are false flags to kill our countrymen and drive
us like cattle into a world war for oil and Israel, there are
false friends whose job it is to enable the false flags. Victor
Thorn and Lisa Guliani have resoundingly proved that they
meant to do just that, and for that reason they are not to be
trusted or supported. They are enemies to the American
People.
To end where I began, I have spent the last three years
risking all, and losing almost all, to serve my country. My
future, like the future of the republic I swore to defend --
even against domestic enemies -- depends on the continued
successful interdiction of false flag terror attempts.
The Bush administration sets one scenario up after another,
always under cover of "practicing against possible
terror,"and false friends like Victor Thorn, Lisa Guliani and
Tim White do all they can to attack anyone who questions
the official story.
One day, God willing, our nation shall overthrow the
tyranny of terror that now oppresses it, and on that day it
will begin trials for those who enabled the terror. On that
day I will see all our false friends. I will be wearing my
military uniform with full medals, and they will be defending
themselves against treason charges -- my word as a loyal
officer on it.
Captain Eric H. May, MI/PAO, USA
CO, Ghost Troop, 3/7 Cybercav+
Mission of Conscience / Patriots in Action |
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Trashing The Truth
Dear Jim Kirwan,
Let's take a real close look as these two big-mouthed canaries flap up a storm. First, we need to backspace a little...
It didn't take the NWO long to realize they could not control the information on the internet like a water faucet, so they decided to pollute the 'water' instead. Ergo: there are scores of intel assets from NSA, CIA, MI6 to the Mossad working on the net...and more than a few from Globalist corporate machines doing their bidding as well.
As some of you readers may remember, when the Vic and Lisa dog and pony show first appeared on the net, it was in the form of a very long 'patriotic' email screed ...a dodgy 'call to arms'...a clarion declaration to all alternative significant news sites, radio hosts and editors that their *only* hope to fight 'evil' was to band *together* under Vic and Lisa's grand new vision: the 'World Internet News Group'...WING... starring Victor Thorn! (Who the hell was 'Victor Thorn'?). And that any other course of action online in search of the truth and to fight the Globalists was foolish - if not downright suspicious.
Platformed right in the midst of this many page 'patriotic' recruitment hustle was a cleverly-constructed velvet-gloved 'request' (read: demand) that, of course, (paraphrasing) "the heroic Jeff Rense will no doubt be an essential part of 'WING'!" as would Rayelan of Gas_oven.
One can only imagine how Rense and Raye were as amused as this observer at the transparency of such a scam. Neither of them (I wrote and asked) had ever heard of either of these clowns before their flag-rapped email dissertation which projected (read: pressured) Rense and Rayelan's Gas_oven as being pivotal to WING's success in toppling the NWO.
It's known that research was done on 'Victor Thorn' and what turned up fit the profile of an intel asset like a glove. 'Victor Thorn' was an alias of a self-proclaimed 'novelist cab-driver musician' who cadged fares and sang(?) for eight long years in and around the Penn State University community. A perfect cover for anyone doing piecemeal Federal information gathering around a major university campus.
His real name was found to be Scott Makufka. A detail 'Victor' has since gone public with.
For anyone with half their wits who read 'Vic' and Lisa's call to unite under their WINGed leadership, it projected the obvious image of an an intel op... a ploy to try to grab two of the top alternative news engines, Rense and Rayelan, in one swoop - in hopes that others would follow.
What better way to control top alternative research and serious news producers than to sucker bait them into a cover organization 'for the greater good of the truth movement'? What better way to diminish and bleed off independent thought and research...strength through diversity...than to put all the horses in one corral? How dumb Vic and Lisa must have thought Rense and Rayelan and the thousands who received their email pitch announcing 'WINGs' over the world are. Wake up, Yanks, there are serious net operations going on.
I laughed...but I had to admit this mind op hustle was better than average and being mounted very well, indeed. Vic and Lisa are clearly bright, well-trained word smiths and psy-op types.
That first long email proclamation was cleverly wrapped in the US flag and country and praised Rense and Rayelan to the heavens while 'inviting' them to join the Vic and Lisa's new internet carnival.
When Rense apparently refused to take the bait, they began to, in their subsequent mass emailings (they had a huge list, of course), to ask rhetorical questions, etc: "What's wrong with Jeff Rense?" Or "We haven't heard from him and we are confused. Surely such a great American will join us." blah blah blah.
I have a modest intel background and watching all this from the UK was quite an amusing spectacle. I wasn't certain who might be pulling Vic and Lisa's strings but I had a pretty good idea.
I don't know Rense (or Rayelan) from Adam (or Eve) but it was clear he realized that any response to them whatever would/could be used against him. So, he gave them, apparently, nothing...and took that option away. And that is the best way to counter an internet intel set-up. Trust me.
Next, they predictably attacked Rense ...not much was said about Rayelan. The usual and expected 'suggestions' were floated that Rense was a fake patriot, possibly an intel agent, or an ego tripper, etc, etc, otherwise, he would certainly have joined WING on the spot to fight all the bad guys and girls on the planet.
This email attack on Rense - their first net target and similar to what they are doing to Alex Jones now - went on for several weeks as I recall. It never elicited a reply from Rense but it accomplished the opening gambit of their assignment: to acquire immediate publicity and 'credibility' as 'great Americans' trying to fight the Globalist elite.
Again, watching all of this was amusing because it came right out of Net Intel Ops 101; all completely predictable drivel. Vic and his lady pal, of course, had shown up online 'out of the blue' with a web site, and were already posting some credible 'alternative' news...which is how internet agents and assets always establish their names and notoriety.
Not terribly long after, and almost on cue (and utterly predictable), came Vic and Lisa announcing their own internet radio show.
And then, even more predictably, they announced the 'Victor Thorn Net TV Show' This was so spot-on by-the-book, I was actually chortling out loud...primarily because no one seemed able to figure these two clowns out.
Now, fast-forward to their recent 'attacks' on American broadcaster Art NWO Bell.... amused me no end...another obvious device: a phoney, salacious attack on one of their own Globalist bretheren to further build their notoriety in the alternative news community. ('Wow...Vic and Lisa attacked...gasp...Art Bell! Only the greatest of true patriots would dare to take on Clear Channel's king of late night radio!")
If Bell had been so attacked by Alex Jones, he would have gone ballistic. But, as you may have noticed, hardly a peep came from Arthur himself.
And now we see the truly volcanic libeling and smearing of Alex Jones...the powerhouse lightning rod of anti-Globalist research...true fire and brimstone in the anti-NWO truth movement. The attack is, again, as predictable as it is despicable.
Let's not forget...Vic and Lisa's antics are a perfect overlay of the NWO Intel Net Ops handbook...
Imagine...
Chapter One of the internet intel assest/agent's handbook:
"Use your extensive list of activists/journalists that you were supplied with, or personally gathered, and immediately call for an alliance with the biggest names in the targeted field."
"Secure as many of these key alternative news sources as possible and bring them under your banner, one way or another. They can be influenced and controlled much easier as a group rather than in their current independent news and information power centers."
"If you are unsuccessful in baiting them to join you, begin to selectively attack them...using gross libel and smear tactics and suggest in print that they are intel agents or are motivated by greed and ego."
"The results of the attacks are enormous: instant amounts of free publicity and notoriety for your operation. Net wars with the targets are win-win for us."
"Remember: ANY responses from the targets will only build your notoriety and reputation."
"NEGATIVE responses from a target should be immediately quoted out of context, distorted and turned around and used to impeach and impugn the patriotism of the target."
"POSITIVE responses from the target give you instant leverage...and the bonus perception that you are on the same plane - that you are nearly *equals* with the target in the minds of those following your efforts."
"Remember - ANY response from the target is a WIN."
(etc, etc)
Chapter Two, of course, would direct such newly-spawned net agents to begin to book themselves on radio talk shows as quickly as possible...and then to start their own radio shows shortly thereafter.
That's a quick review of how the Vic and Lisa dog and pony information-gathering and internet disinfo charade began.
Lisa, of course, is the she-male bull. Slick and clever, she's the enforcer. Knows how to play word and head games very well. She loves to beat up on people (especially men) in print ...like she is doing with Alex Jones now ...and then offer an 'olive branch' if they bow down in ideological subservience or, at least acknowledge that 'Lic and Visa' are fellow truth seekers (!)
To me, their antics mirror a high-level intel internet psy-op - an effort to neutralize and diminish the strength of your alternative US news movement by destroying its strength-through-diversity which has made it so strong in the states.
That's my tuppence on the matter. Be on guard, cousins. There are traitors in your midst!
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From Richard Long
5-15-5
I, too, am suspicious of WingTV's motives and now think they may be a psy op.
Take Art Bell's infamous Pop Mechanics 911 show. Just before Art was to bring Ben Chertoff on he took a few supposed unscreened calls. The last call before Chertoff came on was a familiar voice, it was unmistakably Wing's Lisa Guliani.
I waited for Art to identify the caller as Lisa Guliani of Wing TV who had been dogging him for weeks, but Art never did. At first, I thought maybe I was wrong and it wasn't Lisa Guliani but someone who sounded similar.
My instincts were correct though, when it was confirmed the next Monday by Lisa that she indeed did get through that night to ask Art her questions. Was Art aware that it was Lisa from WingTV calling? That is still unclear.
My question is, if Art Bell did not set up the phone-in by Lisa Guliani, how did she become one of the few unscreened callers on one of America's top syndicated radio shows? Are we to believe that it was pure luck that her call got through? Was that moment the 'tell' Wing TV has 'outside' help?
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For a condensed version of the whole sordid tale, check this link...
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What happened to Lisa Guliani?
She comes on here all brave, in an angry type of way, full of bluster and ready for a good fight and then she disappears right after it is revealed that she abandoned her three children, that Ark and Laura are a psy -op , that Ark is with DARPA, that the three of them, Ark, Laura and Lisa have all abandoned their children,wives and husbands, that they don't know the first thing about the values of loyality and commitment.
Poor Lisa all she can do is sit there and fume over the revelations of her sordid past. She acts like a tough street punk but when the fighting gets serious she disappears, just like Laura Knight jadczyk.
Lisa, if we are so wrong and Laura is so right why then doesn't she come on here and tell us her side? Why doesn't she explain why she stole $150,000 in her fake House Raffle scam? Why doesn't she explain about her husband working for DARPA? Why doesn't she tell us why she is attacking every single person who is involved int he 911 Truth movement? Why doesn't she tell us why she was arrested for Attempted Murder, how she can channel herself in the future and why she has you for an ally?
Lisa, if Laura is telling the truth then she has nothing to hide. The truth will set her free.
We know why she is hiding, why she can't sue Godlike and why she has you for an ally. It is because Laura Knight Jadczyk is a wimp. She is the big fat bully that torments everyone until one day someone gets enough courage to knock the snot out of her.
It is clear that if she has Lisa Guliani for an ally Laura Knight Jadczyk is in serious trouble. |
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What a bunch of b.s.
Do you people have NO LIFE whatsoever?
All the little "anonymous cowards" on this forum posting nothing but gossip, speculation and pure b.s. for YEARS, fixating, obsessing, and exhibiting nothing but pettiness, maliciousness, and a total lack of class. Z-E-R-O.
Moreover, if the "anonymous coward" who injected my name into this stupid boring thread had even one brain cell firing, then they would know at least, how to SPELL my name correctly.
Let me correct the "anonymous coward":
I am NOT a victim of Laura & Ark Jadczyk. They have been very kind to me and have not done anything to "victimize" me, EVER. Some other necessary corrections to note: the Jadczyks have NOT victimized Chris Bollyn, who should be a poster child for the word "psychopath". The Jadczyks have NOT victimized John Kaminski. Kaminski took advantage of their kindness and generosity and spit on the hand that helped him. I know this for a FACT. If anything, Kaminski victimized the Jadczyks with his baseless b.s. hitpieces and the fact that he soaked them for a nice chunk of change over time. I haven't seen any evidence that the Jadczyks have ever "victimized" anybody, so let's just cut the crap.
OK LMFAO!!!!
This whole THREAD is populated by folks who have DIRECTLY been victimised (S!) by the Lark cult.
So Lisa, get a fucking clue you stupid stupid let me emphasise idiotically stupid! brainwashed fool. |
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This thread should be completely devoted to exposing the Laura Knight Jadczyk, Ark Jadczyk, Lisa Guliani psy op campaign.
It is clear that Laura and Lisa are cointelpro. The house raffle scam, the attempted murder charges, the abandonment of children and husbands are terrible for sure. But the most important thing we can do now is to devote all of our energy towards total exposure of these three bums.
We have a dictatorship coming down on us and Laura Knight Jadczyk and Lisa Guliani have united to destroy any opposition to it. The reason that they never tell us why they are attacking everyone in the 911 Truth Movement is because they are a psy op.
Kaminski, Bollyn, Rense, Jones, Syzminski are all invited to join us in this ongoing effort.
We need to have all of your investigative skills used to discover who Lisa Guliani and Laura Knight Jadczyk really are.
This stinking rot must be exposed.
The most patriotic thing we can do is expose this dangerous cabal of destruction.
We need to look into their past and find out everything we can about them and put it up on this thread. If you know anything about Laura or Lisa please come forth now. Native Alien we need you to tell us everything that you have found. Don't play games with us.
Lisa and Laura should know that this is just the start of your being exposed. Yes you have many destroyed lives behind you both, children, husbands, patriots, but your time is now coming to a close.
Let it be shouted from the mountain tops, you will be exposed. We will be victorious. |
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I told you all straight up, go to New Port Richey and ask around. That is all I am going to say on the matter. People there will gladly tell you what you want to know. |
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The farce of the Alternative media.
I made my way over to the Signs-of-the-Times message board, now that they have finally joined the 21st Century and started using a real message board instead of a comments page.
Lo, and behold, some interesting discussions! Pendants, energy flow, and COINTELPRO.
What's COINTELPRO? According to Wikipedia, it's Counter Intelligence Program, a program of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. Very interesting stuff, but I started digging a little deeper and I saw accusations that people like Jeff Rense and Alex Jones were COINTELPRO, or at least as someone put it, government shills.
Alex Jones a government shill? He's a nutcase and overly zealous and has a huge ego and I disagree with him on a lot of things, but a shill? I didn't think so. So I posted about it and it started a 4-day shitstorm that ended up with post deletions (mine) and bannings (me). All because I called into question the assumption that these people were directly involved with government. It was insinuated that AJ was also receiving a paycheck from the U.S. government as well. When I called bullshit on that, of course the post was completely deleted.
It's funny because if you go to their forums, you can see that they replied to posts that I made which were deleted. Notice Ryan's post on the last page and then see if the post that he replied to is anywhere in that thread.
The thing is that I was actually open to the idea that perhaps AJ and Rense may be part of something dirty. I've had a lot of issues with Rense and Jones as of late, especially with the bullshit racism. But when whatever is pointing this out is as poisonous and divisive as Lisa Guliani and Laura Knight and the rest of the talking heads on that obscure and meaningless message board, then it's frankly not hard to just discard them as well.
So, WING-TV goes into the same trash bin that I have tossed Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and so on. Talking about "Control of the Press" and then turning around and deleting posts that contradict you is absolutely ridiculous, Laura.
But, in this special case, we will do something different. I will research Laura, and Lisa, and Victor Thorn, and Arkadiusz Jadczyk, and we will truly see how deep the rabbit hole goes this time. It's a long summer and I am frankly that tired of people like Lisa Guliani and Laura Knight, who claim to be part of the "Truth Movement", sit around on their high chair and claim that they have a moral high ground because they make claims that someone is is a "shill" or a government agent, or whatever.
And you know what's funny? While Lisa has everyone spinning their tires in the mud about who is and isn't a government shill, Alex Jones has released yet another video. |
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Christopher Bollyn wrote:
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:21:43 -0800 (PST)
From: "Sam Brand" <afp_europe@yahoo.com>
Subject: URGENT: Christopher Bollyn on WING TV
To: Lisa Guliani
Dear Scott,
I am sorry for the delayed response but I have been swamped with email. I must say that I was not complaining about not being on your show. No - never.
I simply said that you and Lisa Guliani had not asked me for my side of the arrest story. That is true.
Today I listened to your show and heard that you are now doing it solo. What happened to Ms. Guliani? Did she go back to her family in Minnesota? That would be a good thing. Did I cause this good thing to happen?
Did she leave you for good? Is it over? Are you all lonely and by yourself? Gosh. And you are such a nice guy. Maybe Mike Piper can move in with you now. You two seem to have so much in common.
By the way, in your show today, you referred to somebody as a "schmuck," which I understand is a Yiddish word. Do you speak Yiddish? How is it that you use Yiddish terms if you are not a Yid (Yiddish)?
Makufka. What a strange name. I thought it was Arabic or African or something.
Are you from the famous (Jewish) Makufka family from Poland? They were very famous in the 15th Century. They provided the map of the New World to Christopher Columbus. Are you from that family?
In the Jewish encyclopedia, Makufka is listed as a Jewish name that means "poppy head." Are your ancestors from that famous Polish Jewish family? Are you part Jewish? You must be famous.
Your father did not want to answer that question about religion when I spoke to him the other day even though I asked him that question three times. Nor did your former wife or sister comment on your ethnicity.
You and Michael B. Piper are clearly quite close. Are you also homosexual?
By the way, I could go on your show on of these days and discuss 9/11 or whatever. It would be fun. Almost as much fun as meeting in person.
Send me a note. (I am not gay. My wife in in the photo.)
I look forward to meeting you soon. We have a lot to talk about.
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Astucia on Treachery of Michael Piper
by Christopher Bollyn
1 November 2006
This is a continuation of the previous article by Bollyn:
FBI is a Huge Zionist Police Force
Salvador Astucia, author of the book Rethinking John Lennon's Assassination: The FBI's War on Rock Stars, wrote that it didn't take Michael B. Piper [a.k.a. Michael Collins Piper] long to respond.
Piper, who is near the top of the Willis A. Carto-owned newspaper American Free Press, seems to have been the driving force to push Christopher Bollyn out of American Free Press – even while he lavished compliments on Bollyn whenever he was on Piper's radio show.
(Piper's compliments always seemed over the top to me and now I know why. He was trying to appear to be my friend and supporter – as he conspired against me and stabbed me in the back.)
In email comments to Astucia, Piper now refers to Bollyn as "a lunatic with an axe to grind."
As Piper publicly complimented Bollyn as "America's best investigative journalist – bar none," he was busy conspiring with his business partners Scott Makufka [a.k.a. Victor Thorn] and Lisa Guliani in his home state of Pennsylvania to attack Bollyn in a character assassination campaign.
Makufka and Guliani publish pornographic literature and attack well-known researchers of 9/11 through their Internet website WING TV. Makufka and Guliani also published Piper's book Dirty Secrets, although it says American Free Press on the spine. Is WING TV the same as American Free Press? What's going on between Makufka and Piper and the people at AFP?
It should be noted that Scott Makufka is a well-known writer and publisher of pornographic books and an on-line porn magazine called Babel. Makufka, which means "poppy head" in Polish, is based in State College, Penn. and works with Lisa Guliani, a woman who abandoned her husband, Cris Guliani, and her three sons in Minnesota to run off with Makufka, writer and publisher of porn. Her three sons are from three different men.
When Bollyn repeatedly asked American Free Press, a newspaper that supposedly supports family values, why they were doing business with such morally dodgy people as Makufka and Guliani – the attacks on Bollyn, AFP's "star investigative reporter" only intensified.
Piper, a homosexual who has had a long-term relationship with a Jewish lover named "Phil," obviously worked closely with Makufka and Guliani to force Bollyn out of American Free Press.
A long-time insider at AFP and close personal friend of Willis A. Carto repeatedly told Bollyn that Phil is Piper's controller from the Zionist organization, the Anti-Defamation League. Phil and Piper have been seen walking down Pennsylvania Avenue hand-in-hand.
Bollyn was attacked and TASERed by undercover cops in mid-August. Makufka and Guliani immediately began to attack Bollyn's credibility although they never contacted him for his version of events. At the same time that Makufka, Guliani, and Piper conspired to attack Bollyn, the ADL issued a nationwide press release in which Bollyn was attacked for his research about 9/11 in which numerous links to Israeli intelligence have been exposed.
The Centre Daily Times of State College refused to review Makufka's pornographic book "Rebellious Confessions" (2002, Black Sheep Books, DuBois, Penn.). Responding to a published letter to the Centre Daily Times, the paper's editor defended his decision not to review Makufka's books saying, "Among the books that the CDT will not review are books that contain lewd sexual content or extreme and gratuitous violence."
It should be noted that in the summer of 2002, as Bollyn discovered and reported about the presence of molten metal in the basements of the three collapsed towers of the World Trade Center and other key bits of 9/11 evidence, Makufka and Guliani were busy writing and publishing pornographic books and magazines.
Do Makufka and Guliani sound like real 9/11 investigators? Piper and American Free Press seem to think so.
Do Makufka and Guliani sound like they fit with American Free Press readers or real 9/11 researchers? I don't think so.
AFP says nothing about their relationship with Makufka and Guliani of WING TV. Is it only money – or is it the Anti-Defamation League?
As I say, it seems to me that Piper and the people at AFP have a lot of explaining to do. Astucia reveals more of the "dirty secrets" of Piper and AFP in the following exchange.
Astucia notes in the following correspondence that Piper seemed "awfully mad." Piper is probably mad at being exposed as the treacherous and treasonous person he has shown himself to be:
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But is it clever enough?
Will they deceive enough of us?
Why did WingTV join the 9/11 investigation?
When Victor Thorn appeared in the 9/11 movement, I and others looked into who he was.
My assumption was that he was frustrated that he was driving a cab instead of achieving his goal of becoming an author:
www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2001/03/03-16-01tdc/03-16-01darts-1.asp
An article about his attempts to be a writer starts off:
Local author Victor Thorn is no stranger to rejection from the rough publishing world. Throughout his writing career, he has received tons of rejection letters from large publishing houses,...
Thorn published the book Rebellious Confessions, which is a collection of short stories from himself and other authors. It is described as:
...a book which deals with such taboo subjects as masturbation, misogyny, fetishes and fellatio.
Thorn's short story, "The Blow-up Doll", for instance, tells the story of a young boy's first wet dream. In another story that appears in the book, "Latex Dreams," by Stellar, a young woman graphically recounts her first abortion. "Skeletons," a short story by Jeremy Fleming, relates the tale of a young man turned on by the sound of coughing.
www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2003/01/01-16-03tdc/01-16-03darts-04.asp
My assumption was that Thorn was worried that he would drive a cab the rest of his life, and that he saw 9/11 as an opportunity to become an author and start an Internet television show.
Since neither Thorn nor Guliani did any research of their own, they took other people's material and put it into their own words.
Initially I was glad to help them, and even Daryl Bradford Smith trusted them.
However, their strange behavior eventually caused some of us to wonder about their morality. Daryl Bradford Smith decided that they are "opportunists". Later he decided they are Crypto Jews who are working with the criminal network.
WingTV shocked me when they insisted that Michael Zebuhr's murder was definitely a random act of violence. I don't understand how could anybody could lookat that murder and not consider it worthy of an investigation:
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Michael.html
During July and August of 2006 their behavior has become increasingly strange. Consider the following two excerpts of their show on 4 August 2006:
1) Victor explained his amazing revelation that describing 9/11 as an "inside job" is not giving the complete story; that 9/11 is really an outside job by Zionists!
ItWasAnOutsideJob.mp3
2) Thorn discussed his amazing revelation again, and even pointed out the amazing possibility that George Bush may not have been a key player in the 9/11 attack:
ItDawnedOnMe.mp3
As far as I know, I am the first person to complain that the phrase "inside job" is deception, and that we should refer to it as an "outside job" or, as an "inside job by Zionists".
And many people have pointed out that George Bush is merely a puppet, not the mastermind to the world's criminal network.
Thorn and Guliani seem to be reading my material, listening to Daryl Smith's interviews, reading articles by Christopher Bollyn, reading books by Michael Piper, and so on, and then taking bits and pieces of our material and pretending that it is their own material.
However, now that WingTV has rushed to defend the police and the ADL, I am convinced that there is more going on here than a frustrated author trying to get out of driving a cab for a living.
Their behavior is proof that they are trying to protect the Zionists, not expose them.
I now think that WingTV is taking bits and pieces of our material to bring attention to themselves in order to take attention away from us.
Are they Zionists? Or Sell-Outs?
It is possible that Thorn is so desperate to become a famous author that he sold out to the Zionists, and perhaps Lisa Guliani also sold out for money.
It is also possible that both of them were Zionists for a long time.
Finally, it is possible that Thorn is a Jewish failure who joined the Zionists only because he wanted to become famous, but he doesn't really care about the Zionist movement! This would explain why he does such a lousy job of protecting the Zionists.
WingTV's defense of
the ADL on 17 August 2006
I will begin by providing some excerpts of their rant, which should soon be posted with their other files:
[link to 911underground.com]
A transcript is here:
WingTV-transcript.html
Some names in this document:
Lieutenant Russo: he works for the the Hoffman Estates Police Department.
Hoffman Estates: the city that Christopher Bollyn lives in. It is near Chicago.
Chris Petherick: the editor of the American Free Press, which is the newspaper that Bollyn works for. He lives and works in the Washington, DC area.
Arresting officers were not "ADL Thugs"
Not_ADL_agents.mp3
Thorn says he spoke with Lieutenant Russo and Chris Petherick, and they verified that the arresting officers were employees of the Hoffman Estates Police Department.
Thorn then rants about how incorrect we are to describe the police as ADL thugs, Mossad agents, Israelis, etc.
Did you know that some people in the UK describe Tony Blair as Bush's "lapdog":
[link to news.scotsman.com]
I suppose if Thorn hears about this, he will make a few phone calls and then announce:
"I spoke with Lieutenant Russo and Chris Petherick, and they confirmed that Tony Blair is not a dog!"
I wonder what Thorn would say if I told him that George Bush is a "puppet".
Lieutenant Russo is ignorant?
Guliani said Lieutenant Russo did not know what "ADL" was. She expects us to believe that his ignorance is evidence that the ADL is not influencing the police department.
The Chicago police have always been known for their corruption, not their education, music ability, or intelligence, so it is possible that a lieutenant in their police force has no idea what "ADL" means.
Police departments in large cities have been complaining for years that there are so few people who want to be a policeman that they must lower their standards in order to fill positions. Small cities are also lowering standards, such as Bangor, Maine:
mainecampus.com news 2002/02/28
The Hoffman Estates police department will consider anybody who has not been convicted of a felony and who has the equivalent of a high school education:
www.hoffmanestates.com/police/police_employment.shtml
Ignorant policemen are dangerous!
The stupidity and/or ignorance of the Chicago police cannot be held up as proof that the police are free of ADL influence. Actually, the ADL can more easily manipulate a department of ignorant, stupid men!
Therefore, if Lieutenant Russo is truly as ignorant as he claims, we should be concerned that the ADL is taking advantage of him and the other ignorant police!
Ignorant and stupid policemen are a danger to all of us; they are not something to boast about.
Police officers around the world should be educated about Zionism, the ADL, the JDL, and other groups of criminals.
Somebody scanned a business card of a Los Angeles detective, and the message on the back of the card helps explain who are police departments work for:
[link to i60.photobucket.com]
Send a link to that image to police departments and ask them if it true for their city.
The police were looking for a drug suspect?
PoliceLookingForSuspect.mp3
Thorn and Guliani justify the police presence in Bollyn's neighborhood by pointing out that the police were looking for a drug suspect who had escaped from a hospital.
However, Guliani admits that the suspect was apprehended a few hours before Bollyn's arrest, so the police were not looking for anybody at the time! Besides, Bollyn says that suspect was 10 miles away from his home.
So why bring this irrelevant issue up? Obviously, Victor and Lisa couldn't think of anything more intelligent.
The American police are always looking for people. America has the highest crime rate of any advanced nation. Therefore, Guliani could justify every bizarre arrest as:
"Well, the police were looking for somebody earlier that day about 10 miles away."
We are pitiful for not checking facts?
LisaCheckedFacts.mp3
Thorn said that Guliani did "fact checking" by calling police departments and the Chicago Tribune. Thorn complains how pitiful it is that none of us bothered to check the "facts".
What would you think of a person who called police departments and newspapers to get the "facts" about 9/11, the Oklahoma City bombing, or the assassination of President Kennedy?
Hey! Maybe we can understand what happened to Princess Diana if we call the London police department and newspapers and ask for "the facts, mate! Give me the facts about Diana!"
Bollyn lied about injuries and drinking water?
NoInjuriesOrWater.mp3
Bollyn said he was "beaten up" by the policemen, and Guliani tries to discredit him by saying that he did not seek medical attention after being released from the jail, so therefore his injuries were trivial.
However, the expression "beaten up" is not a specific medical term. It is as vague as "abused". So how can Guliani argue about it?
When Bollyn was released from the jail, he had to walk 3 miles to get home, so obviously his injuries were mild.
Bollyn told me that he avoided the doctor for several reasons. One is that he assumed he only had minor bruises, and another is that he dreaded the thought of spending hundreds of dollars on a doctor.
When his elbow did not heal, and when his employer offered to pay his medical bills, he went to a doctor and discovered he had a slight fracture in a bone. Bollyn scanned the doctor's report for all the people who think he made this up:
Bollyn Doctor's report
Since Guliani and Thorn consider these injuries to be insignificant, perhaps they will volunteer to let some of us give them similar injuries? Let's get some Tazers and handcuffs and meet Guliani and Thorn at their home!
Thorn and Guliani also point out that every cell in the jail had a sink with water, so therefore Bollyn was lying about having only a toilet as a source of drinking water.
However, Bollyn said his sink did not work. It was either broken, or the police had shut the water off. This is why Bollyn asked the policeman for water, but the policeman responded that he can drink out of the toilet.
Do you remember when Thorn complained how pitiful it was that nobody bothered to check the facts? Why isn't it pitiful that Thorn and Guliani never bothered to check the facts about the water issue?
There is more than one side of the story?
MoreThan1Side.mp3
After a few minutes of listening to Thorn and Guliani, I came to the conclusion that they were defending the police.
Then I heard Thorn explain that they are not supporting the police or Bollyn.
Rather, they were pointing out that there is more than one side of the story, and that nobody was providing the other side. It then occurred to me that WingTV was simply being "fair and balanced"!
Laura and the Cassiopaeans?
Guliani mentioned that the "Signs of the Times" is also investigating the Bollyn arrest. I hope she is referring to Laura Knight-Jadczyk of Cassiopaea:
[link to signs-of-the-times.org]
I haven't seen anything come from that woman (or her husband!) that is worth reading.
In fact, both of them seem to be Deception Delivery Devices (DDD).
I suppose Lieutenant Russo never heard of DDD, either. What exactly do they teach at the Police Academy?
If WingTV works with Laura and her Cassiopaea friends, then we have more evidence that those Cassiopaeans are indeed Zionists. It certainly was nice of Guliani to alert me to her possible connection to the Cassiopaeans!
Did you know that Laura Knight-Jadczyk has some connection with Darren Williams, the man in England who created the Pentagon Flash movie:
www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.htm
Williams seems to be interested only in exposing the lies about Flight 77, not the demolition of the WTC or the Zionists. (Rival Zionist gangs? Or just more deception?)
The Washington Post gave Williams and his Flash movie some nice coverage:
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13059-2004Oct6.html
That Pentagon Flash movie also got a tremendous publicity from many of the 9/11 "truth seekers".
However, those truth seekers and the Washington Post will not give such wonderful publicity to me, my 9/11 Flash movie, by book, my video, Christopher Bollyn, or Daryl Bradford Smith. Is it because our work is inferior to that of Darren Williams?
Am I jealous of Darren Williams and his Flash movie? Or is the widespread publicity of Williams and the Cassiopaeans still more evidence that they are Zionists?
Sam Danner pops up again!
To further convince us that Bollyn cannot be trusted, Thorn and Guliani mention Sam Danner! They imply that Sam Danner is a liar, and that nobody other than Russell Pickering and WingTV could figure this out.
Therefore, we should look to Russell Pickering and WingTV for the most intelligent analysis of Bollyn's arrest.
Pickering also says there is more than one side of the story!
On 17 August 2006 Russell Pickering sent an email message to everybody on a mailing list:
If you didn't have time to watch Wing TV's show, this is a summary. Time to jump on and read every conspiracy drama but not time to see both sides? Unfounded and uninvestigated conspiracy theories will be the destruction of 9/11 truth in the mainstream population. Quit being conspiracy theorists and become researchers and investigators. Has any of these "authors" besides Thorn and Guliani investigated this? NO. Have the readers swallowed it? YES. You are obligated to be thorough and honest before publishing data that will harm the 9/11 truth movement.
Think!!!!
Pickering included a message from Lisa Guliani in that email:
PickeringWingTV-email.html
OK, Russell, I will take your suggestion and think about this issue:
Are Russell Pickering, Victor Thorn, and Lisa Guliani doing damage control for the Zionists by trying to intimidate us into accepting Bollyn's arrest as a normal police response to a troublemaker?
Petherick admits arrest has nothing to do with 9/11?
NothingToDoWith911.mp3
Thorn insists that Bollyn's arrest has nothing to do with Bollyn's investigation into 9/11 and Israel's involvement.
Thorn also makes a curious remark that Chris Petherick admitted that the arrest had nothing to do with 9/11. How did Petherick become an expert on why Bollyn was arrested?
The next day Petherick sent an e-mail to many of us complain that WingTV took his remarks out of context. (I have more about this farther down in this document)
To further prove that Bollyn's arrest has nothing to do with 9/11 or Israel, Thorn claims that his book, 9/11 Evil, exposes the Israeli connection to 9/11, and that it is "the most dangerous book out there".
Thorn points out that there are no black helicopters over his house, and that he is not afraid. He implies that because he can freely expose Israel's connection to 9/11, Bollyn can expose it, also, so Bollyn's arrest couldn't have anything to do with 9/11 or Israel.
However, we should wonder if the reason Thorn can freely discuss Israel is because he is working with the Israelis, and because he only discusses information that has been on the Internet for years.
As I mentioned earlier, Thorn doesn't have any original material. Instead, he takes bits and pieces of material from me, Daryl Bradford Smith, Christopher Bollyn, Michael Collins Piper, and probably lots of other people.
To rephrase that, Thorn only tells you what you would have already known if you were listening to those of us who are not working for the Zionists.
By comparison, Christopher Bollyn is doing actual research and exposing Israeli connections that none of us knew about.
The Zionists would be most interested in stopping the true researchers, not the plagiarists.
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Dear Laura,
I don't know you very well, yet, but have written you before complimenting on your wisdom concerning Jacob Roginsky from AMOJ and his fake 911 truth group, remember?...So I do know what you're really made of watching that "just" and well deserved hatchet job you did on him, take place
I am not the enemy here as Lisa Guliani would have you to believe, Laura
I sent those messages to some of your members because I was unfairly censored from posting in your forum and in the hope that one of them would see the fairness in allowing me to have my say, as you were letting Lisa against me...I couldn't believe you saw it necessary to remove any way for me to contact those at your forum by removing their email links...
I was planning to write you a letter last night as I fell asleep in hopes that you might help us all in the truth movement that Lisa claims does not exist...
It's a shame the way she puts down the 911 activists and researchers, too
As she wrote in your forum the following
>>>14:24:30
Lisa
Jedi General
From: Central Pennsylvania
Registered: 2006-06-01
Posts: 413
Website Re: John Kaminski Goes Off the Deep End
I think the "alternative media and alleged 911/patriot movement" is nothing but a Cointelpro op in disguise.
In fact, I'm convinced of it.
We must be having more of an impact than we realized, Laura.
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"Evil, when recognized as evil, is not chosen.
And when not chosen, ceases to exist."
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The truth movement as well as 911 truth activists work very hard in many cases and Lisa and Victor need to give credit where credit is due
The movement is real and does exist...I really did hope all us little guys, who really mean well, would be accepted by wingtv.net and we could join efforts and work together...Putting our differences aside enough to accomplish what's needed "was" and "is" called for
My offer to hand my data base and groups over to Lisa came with no strings as was questioned in your forum, Laura...I wanted to take a different direction in my activism in the spiritual arena and I told her that
I thought and hoped Wing would be the catalyst that united "US" all...She's always known exactly what I was asking of her as she's always denied...I'd hoped she or someone with the capability she possessed, would take and build into something bigger & better what I began that tragic morning of 911...I was already an activist when 911 happened but that morning began this mission...24/7, my every waking hour possible, I collected every good hearted and common sensed individual I could find...I was very successful in acquiring quite a list separate from my groups and two VIP lists
I joined every group and organization I could find...
I can tell you now as I'm retiring to other places so if Lisa or anyone wants to send my confession that I'm probably the spam queen of all time, it's okay...Last night I was threatened by Yahoo administration that my account would be canceled without further notice if I disobey TOS one more time...Lisa has been busy trying to stop my attack of truth but it's too late for her in that capacity
So I may be gone from the groups very soon
I guess there's not room for the both of us in cyberspace so I may be going sooner than I wanted to, thanks to Lisa...
I expected this so arrangements have been made so our We The People United Movement can continue on
The alternative to what's happening could have and would have gotten the truth movement really moving if only she would have helped in the first place
There are many, many, little movements scattered everywhere and they need come together...It's sad to be held back in the matter we have been
The most ridiculous turn was to start a program where innocent people were being stereotyped, psychopaths and that went wayyyy too far...That was the downfall and end of Wing the way it was forever more, no matter what happens from here on out...
The real patriots are standing up and the bad guys really will be separated from the good as Lisa says but not in the manner she thought
It's really been rough for many of us, you know?...We really do work very hard, a lot of us and due to all the fighting and dividing we have gotten no where pretty fast
Oh, there's been some progress in media finally reporting some truth and a few of our elected officials are with "US"...but no thanks to Wing TV telling you to turn off the news, when we need be doing the exact opposite and hounding them instead
When I think about the benefit we could have by now with the media and elected officials help, if Wing had worked with us instead of against us, I could just cry
Then another problem has been that Alex Merklinger from mysteriesofthemind.com had family tragedy preventing his helping, as he wanted and offered...And then all Wing has done to divide "US", up to this point
It's been a real nightmare and we are busting out now
I hope they will be big about everything and try to make up for lost time from here on out...I really do
They need realize most of us aren't really bad guys as they claim?...Maybe it's that some may not be up on all we could be and need taught instead of put down, disgraced and thrown away, as Wing has always done in the past?...
Maybe that coming together could happen if this was realized?
Lisa hurts many of us a lot...it hurt to see she got you to help her, too, Laura...You actually, possibly without realizing, helped her label all of us she chose to target as psychopaths...When I heard you say Christopher Bollyn was one I was flabbergasted and don't believe that for one moment...Just as the majority of the thinking people don't believe either
I do pray for Lisa because it's not her I hate, it's what's she's doing...She may be right about some things concerning some people, some of the time, but she can't do what they do to all of us as a whole anymore
And the Alex Jones attacks are ridiculous and all I've heard are untruths about him...They are only Lisa, Victor and a small sector of people who are uninformed and misled...As for the family Alex was said to betray...I don't know the details or if he's guilty as Lisa charges but again the word comes to mind>>>Forgive
Wing claims some of us won't come on their show to defend ourselves and some of you take that for reason to believe we are the liars or bad guys because we aren't willing to defend ourselves...Well, I'm here to tell you that many people with good reason will not go on the O'Reilly show on fox news either...and in the case of Wing it's for the same type reasons
I won't go into that as most thinking people will come to realize the why, to this, anyway
The hurtful stuff about others Wing dwells on in their constant attacks are mostly due to difference of opinion and beliefs much of the time...We all must put those type differences aside and work on what we do agree on in these dire times
I imagine most would appreciate an education rather than an attack on their character for when we may be wrong about a matter or issue, too, don't you?
And we must remember there is such a thing as forgiveness, also, if someone really is guilty of something
Like Christopher Bollyn...He used bad judgment in the opinion of many when he brought Lisa's children into it...Lisa jumped on that and titled it that Chris abuses woman and children...He did name Victor's son too but that wasn't mentioned that I could see
To many of us, what Chris said was wrong but understandable due to the severity of what Lisa was doing to him, what he had gone through and is still up against...what a shame Wing took this stance against a dedicated 911 researcher who has our best interests at heart, in the manner she did
One's thinking process is not always able to function as we'd like at critical times in our lives...Chris was tasered also during the abuse the thugs pulled on him and we need take that into consideration
He was hurt and angry and struck back in retaliation...Haven't all of us used bad judgment during critical time in our lives?...Have we been forgiven?...Can we forgive?
I hope and pray all works out for him and hope you guys will find it in your hearts to understand and forgive that one thing, while there's still time to help him
I know his case comes up in November so if anyone wants to contribute let me know at mofmars3@netscape.com and I'll see you're directed to where you can send a donation...If anyone knows where that might be, please let me know...I'll send this attention to Chris so maybe he'll let me know
Back to Lisa...You know in your heart who the truth teller is between the two of us, Laura...
Did you notice she didn't mention my name on the last show (Tuesday's) but talked a lot about me?...She said, I said she should be gang raped when it was really self esteem I was writing about...That's the kind of stuff she does to many with her twisting, spinning and taking out of context, all the time |
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How to Back-Stab and Betray your Lover and Friend while simultaneously sucking up to Laura Knight Jadczyk
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Lisa Guliani
That show was not a "tribute" to me. It was Victor Thorn doing DAMAGE CONTROL. I call it Thorn's "Lisa Eulogy".
He was totally disingenuous, full of crap, and the show was filled with LIES. The lies are easy to pick out, because anywhere he talks about his "feelings", he is lying.
Victor Thorn has no "feelings".
He has a talent for words, for language.
Make the distinction.
He strategically avoided telling everyone what REALLY happened and why I am no longer on WING, which is why numerous listeners have been emailing ever since, asking (and I quote):
Where is Lisa?
What happened to Lisa?
Is Lisa having a baby?
Is she in poor health?
DID LISA DIE???
Most of the emailers think I'm dead.
Many people have been wondering, because with all of Thorn's longwinded bluster, he failed to tell everyone that it was his express wish to ERASE ME not only from the show, but from his life. (His words, not mine.)
In fact, he tried to get me to self-erase, once I no longer simply went along with everything he said and did.
He was trying to get me to commit suicide. Thorn is impressed with the whole idea of suicide.
He told me many times I should just go kill myself.
Does this sound like someone who is "proud" of me?
He kicked me off the program and ended our five year "relationship" because I told him I would boycott the show on the day he ran Kaminski's stupid hitpiece against Laura, and after I told him I would make public statements about my opposition to it. He told me if I didn't do the show, then I was OFF of WING TV for good and we were "done" and I should make plans to move and start making phone calls.
He gave me exactly 8 minutes to compose myself for the show.
I refused to do the show.
Again, he repeated his ultimatum saying I better do the program or make plans to move and we were done.
So I moved out. I do not regret it for one second.
I know I did the right thing, and I even received a very lame email from Thorn a few days ago "apologizing" for all of the hurtful things he's done to me over the last five years.
He signed it, "best wishes", like you'd sign an email to a stranger.
Over the last five years, I found myself having to confront and stand up to Thorn more and more on basic issues of right and wrong.
For example, John Kaminski and his moronic hitpieces against Laura & SOTT. I refused to HELP Kaminski attack Laura & SOTT, because these attacks are completely unwarranted and undeserved. I also think his position on the Jews is a position of ignorance, since he refuses to read the Controversy of Zion book OR the Political Ponerology book. thorn read some of the C of Z book, but didn't bother to read the whole thing. Thorn has not read the Ponerology research.
Victor does not like being told when he is WRONG. You could say I was the THORN in his side.
You know, a few people like yourself actually fell for Thorn's one-sided story and after the whole Bollyn debacle, one would HOPE that you would at least ask yourself what the other side of the story is.
Yet, you fell for Thorn's damage control hook, line and sinker, calling it a 'tribute".
I would have had some respect for him if he would have just told the world the truth.
That he spent the last five years trying to remake and remold me in his image, that he spent the last five years with his thumb on top of me, that he spent the last two years especially, being my BIGGEST attacker while publicly condemning those who attacked me on the internet. He should have told the world that he never loved me at all, nor did he even like me at all. He should tell everyone that the only time he was even "pleased" with me was when I was saying or doing something that brought him the desired attention he constantly seeks, or got him something he wanted, like certain interviews. He should tell everyone hsi classic quote from the night he flipped out on me, in which he said: "You are the evil destroyer of goodness!!"
Sounds like something lifted out of Marvel Comics. He also screamed that I don't believe in anything.
This is total b.s.
Before I left, I was THREATENED by Thorn that I'd better be quiet and not say anything that would embarrass him. He told me that if I do, he will come after me worse than he's ever gone after Alex Jones, and he would come after me for LIFE.
Does the above threat in any way jive with Thorn's statements on that Tuesday eulogy broadcast?
Thorn shows with that one sentence alone that he is a psychopath.
Not once on that show did he ever say that he even liked me. Instead, he indicated that the only times I was "really most alive" were when I was participating in protests. What was I the rest of the time - dead?
If he was so proud of me and I was such a magnificent shining star in his life, why did he flip out and kick me off of WING TV for telling the truth and doing the right thing? Hmm?
Why is Thorn - just like John Kaminski - refusing to examine the research on psychopaths in the Political Ponerology book? Why is Thorn acting like nothing happened and not telling people the truth about what he did to erase me from WING? Why is he allowing people to speculate and make false assumptions, thinking I just "left" the show to do other things, or to think I'm not even alive anymore?
You have a snippet of information, Martin, and you base your conclusion upon this snippet.
The snippet is a LIE. It is not real.
It originates from a clever, quick-thinking psychopath intent upon doing damage control.
Thorn got exactly, precisely what he said he wanted.
My Erasure. He is not "sad" about it, he doesn't feel "bad" about it, and he has no "regrets".
He's been busily trying to find more 'food" since I left.
In fact, it took him less then five days after I left to throw his hook into the water.
As I said, I've been sitting back and watching in silence.
Curiously, Thorn is still using my image and name to push WING TV and he is still selling books I co-authored and designed. He must need these, or I suspect he would remove my photo and name. I have even been emailed by some people who tell me that he is still responding to book orders using "we" and "us", as if I am still there.
Victor Thorn never regarded me as an equal, Martin.
He regarded me as FOOD, just like any psychopath would.
He exploited the numerous attacks upon me to gain more attention for himself, to make himself more famous.
He was not there for me emotionally EVER.
For every good moment with Thorn, there were 1000 nightmare moments.
He was verbally, emotionally, and physically abusive to me.
He psychologically TORTURED me.
I have undeniable, absolute proof of all of the above.
Thorn knows I have it.
Thorn took advantage of the fact that I had no place to escape this treatment, nowhere to go.
Until two weeks ago.
Once I began reading the Ponerology book, I began to make many connections between the tactics of psychopaths and narcissists, and the tactics of "Victor Thorn".
They are one and the same.
Thorn became increasingly uncomfortable with my interest in this material and in SOTT, and in my friendship and communications with Laura. He demanded I stay off this forum.
Obviously I didn't listen to him.
It's really obnoxious to me that some will just simply believe Thorn's "Lisa Eulogy" and accept it at face value.
The CRUX information was strategically, intentionally left OUT of that program, Martin.
As in: What happened? Why?
The Great Victor Thorn won't tell you why, because the answer makes him look very bad.
The answer shows he is a psychopath.
And I have just emerged from hell.
Now I can really begin doing more.
And that I will.
I fully expect to be attacked with both barrels now.
I'm ready.
Lisa |
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Lisa Guliani and Laura Knight Jadczyk:
COINTELPRO, PSY-OPS OR PSYCHOPATHS? |
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Lisa Guliani and Laura Knight Jadczyk:
COINTELPRO, PSY-OPS OR PSYCHOPATHS? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 170355
Or all three?
This story just get's crazier and crazier.
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Lisa Guliani and Laura Knight Jadczyk:
COINTELPRO, PSY-OPS OR PSYCHOPATHS?
Or all three?
This story just get's crazier and crazier.
All three, whether they know it or not.
Thorn took advantage of the fact that I had no place to escape this treatment, nowhere to go.
Until two weeks ago.
OMG!!! Lisa is joining the KULT in gay Francais!!! |
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If Laura lets Lisa into the chateau that will be the end of them all!
From blogger Jason who knows the truth:
Thorn and Guliani are hypocrits who are jealous of all the 9/11 Truth people that are more popular than they are. Jones removed their links because they attack him and others repeatedly which, no matter how you look at it, is a horrible thing for the 9/11 Truth Movement. Wing TV is doing more damage than good. Everything they say about Jones, Ruppert and others is unsubstantiated bullshit. They complain about jones selling DVDs while they're pushing 6 of their own books (which can't be copied) on their own web page. They say GCN is an ABC affiliate; that's how the radio business works, if you want your signal distributed in major markets, you need a major affiliate. We should be excited for the fact that they have leading radio companies as affiliates; I've been waiting for that since long before 9/11. Three months before 9/11, Alex Jones predicted an attack...where were Thorn and Guliani? |
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From the shout forum at
[link to shoutwire.com]
Excerpts:
After Signs of the Times was criticized by a ShoutWire editor in an editorial, SOTT attempted to discredit the whole ShoutWire site with this article, but failed. Luara, either debate me, xxoozero, or cry alone. Let's have your answer, not one from a broke ass writer like this.
This really put into perspective just how paranoid and delusional SOTT is. You people are nuts.
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GangsterOfLove, on 12/1/2006 11:04:57 AM
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Good read, i would shout it but my COINTELPRO implant wont let me.
Holy shit!!
Not only have I been banned from their forum, I've been banned from the entire domain!!
Ladies and gentlemen, in a fit of irrationality and fear, SOTT admins have banned me from the www.signs-of-the-times.org domain. I can no longer access any content on that site and instead are being forwarded here: [link to www.rense.com]
Why, you ask, would I deserve such a thing? Well last night I signed up on SOTT's forum and respectfully asked that they address Virellek's article. Within minutes I was banned from the forum and given the reason "ask Vincent". They are referring to Vincent Bridges, another new ager that SOTT sees as some sort of luciferian figure conspiring to destroy them. At the end of the night however I was still able to access the main website.
This morning as I checked back on the progress the comments had made over the night, I discovered that I can no longer access the SOTT domain and it's content anymore! All for asking a simple and polite question. No doubt they've been watching me post on SOTT but they have avoided adressing me directly this entire time despite me pressing them to do so. This has resulted in me becoming more critical of their actions which is probably why I am now banned from all SOTT content.
I used to enjoy some of their articles, although over-written, the JFK series seemed okay. But their behavior since last night has revealed to me what they really are, a cult. They are no better than the scientologists who harass, slander and libel their critics and attempt to handle information to suit their own agenda.
Readers, beware of SOTT and their staff.
Thanks Vir
What I'm getting from that article is that they can't address any of the issues or people so they attack Shoutwire itself by running a bunch of WhoIS commands. Biiiig whoop, you found out that a guy has the entrepreneurship to start a dozen or so websites dedicated to different themes. Delegate the responsibilities of running the sites mainly to volunteers. And then sit back and enjoy his successes. Wow he MUST be some zionist/cointelpro/adl/vince bridges/illuminati conspirator out to get them. These guys have real delusions of grandeur. Thanks for exposing them for who they really are Vir. I admit I didn't really believe 100% of your article until I looked critically at the SOTT website, their forum, the cassiopaeans website, third party critic websites and amazon.com reviews of Jadczyks books. Their actions proved you right too. Now I am 100% convinced that these guys are truly paranoid, they believe they are really free minded, but none of them do any of the research that I just did on Jadczyk. They just swallow up everything she says as truth, when its truly crap.
I can say that the people from SOTT are very misguided.
First of all, ShoutWire and Spiked are simply affiliates with SpankWire. They do not even own it.
Second of all, ShoutWire was meant to provide a compilation of the internet's best news and information. It also serves as a news feed that any web site can use for extra content. This is the purpose.
We have ads because paying numerous developers upwards to 80,000 per year, among other staff, on top of server costs, upgrade costs, maintenance costs, and advertising, gets expensive. It's all aimed at keeping the site's active community intact while also leaving room to meet the demands of the modern world.
SOTT needs to reevaluate their accusations because they are very far off.
It's funny how SOTT never created an issue with SW until one of its editors announced a case against them.
"Prove it. Prove to me that 80% call bullshit and 20% don't. Oops..you can't because Shoutwire already deleted all their articles. How convenient."
No, we didn't. You and your cult assumed we did. We would rather not delete it, and let you make fools of yourselves.
Jesus, you people believe in aliens and Jew conspiracys. Not only are you a racist organization, much like the nazi party was in Germany, but you folks also have serious mental issues. Crazy fucking nazis is what you guys are, and your led by a fat crazed nazi bitch.
Seriously, this is kind of hillarious debating with these fuckers. Just seeing what they have to say to defend thier ideas is like watching a car crash. It is so bad, but you can't turn away.
I wonder if these people are really like this. Dude, if I told my friends that I believed in a deep zionist lizard conspiracy on the social bookmarking websites of the internet, they would kick my ass and I would never get laid again, and rightly so. Really, I mean, say it outloud. See what it sounds like in the real world. It is funny almost, if they weren't serious, so now it's just sad.
Either way, these nut jobs trying to defend themselves is keeping me entertained while I am stoned.
Xxoozero, on 12/3/2006 10:08:33 PM
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Hahaha.
I'm not scared of you. I'm not scared to debate any of your people. Your people are scared to debate me. That's why I was banned from your site.
Don't expect me to be civil anymore. Fuck you, fuck your fat cunt leader, and fuck your cult. Your people silenced me first, so don't fucking cry when you get the same treatment from me.
Like I said before, if your people want to debate me, it is not going to be one of your lackeys. Get the bitch in charge. If she is such a great writer, then she should have no problems dealing with me.
Otherwise, I think you people backed off from me days ago.
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"You are a Zionist."
I am a mexican you idiot.
They don't let us be Zionists. We can only mow lawns. |
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Check this out. i just made a reply to Lisa and scott Muffkas thread on signs of the times forums, and was banned within 15 minutes!
[link to signs-of-the-times.org]
Check out what I said yourselves and see if there is anything there which was ban worthy or broke their rules. I am certain you will find none.
All that is missing to figure out this link is to see that this is NOT a forum started by Christians as the name suggests, but those who are hostile to 911 truth!
This is a classic cointelpro forum! Run by the government, and aided by little panty waists that cannot bear to hear about Scott And Lisas sexual perversions, and how Scott Makuffka is so interested in little boys first wet dreams.
A forum run by the government folks! Signs of the times!
[link to signs-of-the-times.org]
check out my thread before my posts get deleted!
losers!
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Yeah I signed up there too. They don't really like you Phil or Alex Jones. They think you are COINTELPRO (which if you look at Laura's blog, it is the center of her life, she's so concerned over Above Top Secret being COINTELPRO)
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Would you mind taking a copy of the posts I wrote and posting them here, for everyone here to see? I think this would be most revealing for people here...
I can't because I am banned and cannot now access this page.
Can you please do this?
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Can someone go and please save, copy and paste my posts, a total of 3 into this forum so everyone can see what was said? I said absolutely nothing wrong.
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I am sure it will be deleted, and would appreciatte it if anyone could save this and copy and psate it into this forum...
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Here ya go Phil - this was the main one you wrote - is this what you needed?
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Phil Jayhan wrote:
I am not really here to take either Christopher Bollyns side, nor Lisas. I am here only as an observer. And was disturbed by much of this thread. And I really at this point don't give a crap about Bollyns arrest story, nor Lisa and Scott Makufkas side of the story.
Personally, I don't know why Lisa and Scott Makufka are given such a long leash on this forum. Listen to their radio shows. All they do is attack people. Mostly 911 people who have done much for 911 truth-letting. They pick the most popular people in 911 and pick fights with them. It all started about 2 years ago when Scott wrote his book, which for the most part was ignored by everyone, and rejected as anything earthshattering.
And in all honesty, it was an ok book, although I did notice that the book was basically a complete ripoff from Erics book, Painful Questions. There really wasn't anything new in it at all. But I felt then, as I do now, that the book does its job, showing 911 was an inside job. Thus I endorsed it.
Something needs to be said here about Lisa and Scott. And why Scott uses a fake name is anyones guess, as he spent much time, as did Lisa, chastising Jack Blood for doing the same thing. Thats right, Scott makufka and Lisa spent time trashing Jack Blood because he uses a pseudonym name. Weird isn't it? Hypocritical? Yup, you bethcya! But that didn't stop them from trashing Jack Blood for doing the very same thing that Scott Makufka does, using a fake name. You might at first think this is trivial. But it isn't. It is central to understanding Scott and Lisa's motives in even being involved in 911.
All they have done now, for almost two solid years, is to attack people. Check their stories yourselves!
[edited self promotion and filth]
They are provacateurs. Plain and simple. They thrive off of hatred, division, emnity, strife, factions, and the like. They are in my own opinion, simply bad people, with bad charachter. And to be honest, think that is an understatement. These two people, like no others in 911, thrive off of creating division and strife. It is almost like this is their food which they live off of. And without it, they would simply die.
They have not a single unique find of their own in 911. Everything they preach is ripped from others, thus they are not 911 investigators. They are 911 plageurists. They use other peoples work, and then try to make it look like their own.
And then they savage those in 911 who have done the most damage to the government story on 911. Alex Jones is but one good example of this. They waste no time in assasinating his charachter. They have written numerous hit peices about this Christian 911 activist. And for what reason? Because Alex would never have them on their show! Because Alex would never promote Scotts book, which, for all intents and purposes was a rippoff from Eric Huffshit, as Lisa calls him. Because after they were done trashing everyone and everyone who mattered wouldn't dare have anything to do with them, they were rejected themselves and scorned. And rightly so.
And they trashed Jack Blood, a really good man whom I know personally, for about the same reason.
Let me ask you this; Why are these two people promoting the idea that we all need to investigate those investigating 911? [Selah - Which means think on these things] Why? And if what they say is correct, then lets investigate Lisa and Scott Makufka as well. Before 911, they were both happy writing for their online magazine, babelmagazine.com.
In this magazine they showed that they are sexually perverse people, with a bent towards pedophilia. Or else why would Scott Makufka, an admitted misogynist, have such an interest in little boys first wet dreams?
Why? Don't get mad at me until you answer that question. Do you have an interest in little boys first wet dreams, as does Scott Makufka? Would you spend time researching this, compiling wet dreams of little underage childrens first wet dreams? No. You wouldn't, because most people at these forums are Christians with a deep and sincere love for Jesus Christ. Yet Scott and Lisa had a whole entire magazine devoted to such perversions. [Selah]
Thats is just downright perverse. Sinful. Silly. And wicked. Talk about exploitation of children!!! These two people have really no ledge to stand upon, when accusing Chris of such similar things. I highly doubt that Christopher Bollyn gives a damn about little boys first wet dreams. Yet Scott has a fascination with this, even so much so as to write about it in his previous magazine, babelmagazine.com (Note the name)
Now back to the dynamic duo, of Lisa and Scott. All they have done now for almost two years is to stir up strife, bitterness, hatred, emnities, factions and the like among 911 people. Why? Because we wouldn;t join their stupid little news media network they hatched in their minds. WING TV (World Independant News Group) and become their vassal of manipulation. Thats what they are truly mad & angry about! That we wouldn't allow them to become our gatekeepers.
It might not be obvious to you now, but this dynamic duo is here for only one reason in 911. To obfuscate the truth, and to corral it into some sort of limited hangout where they are the head and not the tail. And I sincerely believe Lisa and Scott are more than lilely government agents for this purpose.
Why else, would they attack all the leading 911 people? Why do they promote the FALSE AGENDA of INVESTIGATING THE INVESTIGATORS? Ya, there is something wrong with that agenda, isn't there?
Why do they hate and attack people who are Christians more than anyone else?? Why do they have a babylonian symbol on top of their website? Why did they used to write an online magazine called babelmagazine.com? Why are they interested in little boys (childrens) first wet dreams? Enquiring minds wanna know!
Why do they promote an agenda which says INVESTGATE the INVESTIGATORS, MORE than an agenda which says INVESTIGATE the CORRUPT U.S Government?
Enquiring minds still wanna know why!
[edited self-promotion]
And then stay a while and find out why people, almost everyone at my own forum hate these two people more than hemmoroids and gangrene. It is because they are a cancer to 911 truth. They are posers! And imposters. And if you take a look at all their articles, you will find that these two people cannot operate out of the sphere of hatred, bitterness, emnity, strife and division. In these areas, Scott and Lisa excell! And are the only spheres that I have ever witnessed them operate functionally, just like our wondefull President, Mr. Bush. What was Lisa saying? Psychopaths of feather, flock together?
Yup, they sure do.
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Right, a whole forum of 3200 pyschos...Nice try Lisa!
Babal magzine was a magazine made by perverts, and the fact you make no apology for it, says tons about the charachter of you and Muffka.
I will post pictures of this pod tomorrow and let more reasonable minds than you take a look at them and see if they see anything amiss. You already admitted on the phone to me, that you saw the pod, and couldn't figure out what it was there for, thus it is no smoking gun, according to your own limited mind.
And thats the point. I don't know what the hell it was or what is was there for, But it is there,and the fact you guys miss no opportunities to trash it speaks tons about your lack of charachter and investigative qualities.
I also never said anything good about Jeff Rense, as will my above post prove. All I did was to defend his right to being gay, if that is his choice, while Scott Makufka and lisa trashed him for this. Weird postions for people who are soooo interested in little boys first wet dreams. (And I say this as a Christian, while Scott and Lisa are confessed Babylonians - Perverts who are interested in little boys first wet dreams)
Lisa, why is Scott soooo interested in little boys first wet dreams, we all wanna know! and enquiring minds wanna know! Ohhhh, you gave voice to numerous perverts who wouldn't have a venue otherwise, we all see.
Sorry to rain on your parade Lisa, but most people here, if not all think it is pretty perverse to be so interested in little UNDERAGE boys FIRST wet dreams. Why is this so interesting to you and Scott, since of course, you make no apologies for this perverse behavior?
I think by now, ALL people want to know why you make no apologies for being so interested in little boys first wet dreams. This is called pedophilia by most people here. So tell us, why are you and Scott so interested in LITTLE BOYS FIRST WET DREAMS? 911 is so much more important!
Enquiring minds wanna know!
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________________________________________ Here's one - but I don't know what post it belongs to - someone quoted it from you - personally - I think this one's awesome! hehehehe
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because most people at these forums are Christians with a deep and sincere love for Jesus Christ.
_________________________________________This is the only other one I could fine, but it's just replying to one of the people on there:
the rabbit wrote:
I am not really here to take either Christopher Bollyns side, nor Lisas
Well as im going through this posting of yours i see the above statement is not true,so you come here and start your first post to here by LYING.
JEEZ
The mind of a rabbit speaks....And all that that implies.
Got a real name pal?
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You know something, I truly hate these two selfish and perverse 911 people!
They are like two little turds that just won't flush. Every flush, they just go round and round and round, and fail to flush.
2 perverts, posing as 911 activists. Thats all they are!
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And thanks Kathy for copying and pasting this before they removed it from their forum. Notice I didn't do anything which broke the rules, or was ban worthy. Just another sign that Signs of the Times is part of the Cointelpro network. They LOVE Lisa and Scott, and give them all the room they want, and allow them to trash whomever they desire. But when someone shows up who shows they are nothing but 2 social & sexual deviants, I get banned! Go figure!
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All that is missing to figure out this link is to see that this is NOT a forum started by Christians as the name suggests, but those who are hostile to 911 truth!
Surely you jest. Nothing could be further from the truth. And assuming it were true... do you really think Lisa would be posting over there? Phil... you need to spend more time reading up on some of these jokers.
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part 2
My observation after "skimming" 39 pages of that site....
It is really sad that they are putting that much energy into investigating the wrong people.
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My observation after "skimming" 39 pages of that site....
It is really sad that they are putting that much energy into investigating the wrong people.
Free me,
Please elaborate and save me from this area of ignorance.
And JFK,
Can you elaborate further as well? What wrong people, or people are they investigating?
And if your all good and answer my questions I will tell you of a weird email exchange I had with Laura Knight Jadcyk a few weeks before any of this happened, and at the time didn't even know it was her forum.
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Phil's post there did not seem that bad to me. But he is hardly in position to complain about being banned.
Phil, if someone comes here, on your forum, and engages in name calling like calling you a "provacateur" and "bad people with bad character" would you ban them from here? That's what you did.
Of course, you feel justified because they trashed people you respect, a point well taken. But that's not the question. You have a strong tendency to declare this your board and it's Phil's way or no way. You can't criticize others for taking the same approach.
Me, I think they should not have banned you. I think their doing so indicated that they were afraid of you.
The thing is, I think the same thing about you when you ban someone from here (including me). You, or they, can put up noble claims that it's just about keeping your board the way you want it, but it boils down (regardless of who does it) to fear of competing ideas.
You had competing ideas that they feared. They banned you for that reason. They should not have and their doing so only exposed them for what they are.
On that we agree.
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HS,
Point well taken!
At least I put it right in my rules, which are rules in my favor! I placed those rules there for a good reason, worded the way they are. For instance: "If I do not like you, I might ban you..."
At least I have the balls to be honest about my skewwed rules in favor of me...And also have the balls to openly declare that this isn't a free speech zone, but rather a platform for us and our message. At least give me some credit for being honest!
And why, anybody would even listen to people who used to openly throw around their sexual perversions is beyond me. Ok, Lisa talking about diddling herself isn;t so bad, although it paints a nasty picture in ones mind. But Scott Makufkas obsession with little boys first wet dreams is by definition a form of pedophilia, or at the very least, borderline pedophilia.
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peÅEdoÅEphilÅEiÅEa /?pid??f?li?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pee-duh-fil-ee-uh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun Psychiatry.
sexual desire in an adult for a child.
[Origin: 1905–10; < NL; see pedo-1, -philia]
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ped·o·phil·i·a (pd-fl-, pd-) Pronunciation Key Audio pronunciation of "pedophilia" [P]
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The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.
pedo·phili·ac (-k) adj. & n.
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The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.
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And note I never said they are pedophiles. But Scott is borderline at best, and if thats what he does in the open, only God knows what he does in secret. Put another way: If I had a son or daughter, and found an old man like Scott Makufka was interested in any part of their sexuality, I would go over to their home and beat the crap out of him.
And why anyone in 911 truth even listens to these two perverts, is beyond me. If I found out that Steven Jones from BYU had any kind of interest in little boys first wet dreams, I would never EVER listen to anything he said again, period.
All these two perverts do is to practice charachter assasination. They move from person to person, victim to victim, and they slander them. They are hateful, mean spirited, bitter, vindictive people, and they are so much so, that they can't even hide it. It's all in plain site, so to speak...
cheers-
phil
There is an old saying: If your interested in little boys first wet dreams, you should be for throwing rocks at someone elses glass home....
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JFK wrote:
My observation after "skimming" 39 pages of that site....
It is really sad that they are putting that much energy into investigating the wrong people.
Free me,
Please elaborate and save me from this area of ignorance.
And JFK,
Can you elaborate further as well? What wrong people, or people are they investigating?
And if your all good and answer my questions I will tell you of a weird email exchange I had with Laura Knight Jadcyk a few weeks before any of this happened, and at the time didn't even know it was her forum.
cheers-
phil
What I mean Phil, is that if they would have put that amount of investigative ferver(?) into investigating for example what John O'Niell's story was instead of Chris Bollyn they might have actually helped the truth movement, rather than hinder it by wasting time.
- Just my thoughts.
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[link to www.cassiopaeacult.com]
Enjoy.
Ok, so Laura is a Witch. This makes sense now to me why she likes Lisa and Scott Makufka so well. And she is a wack job who talks to reptilian aliens via her Oiji board!
What a fricking wack job! Thanks free me, this clears up a lot. I never knew this person was so far over the edge of evil...
Now her friendship with the dynamic perverted duo of Wanker TV makes sense to me.
Thanks!
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Laura leaning on her God....
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Now her friendship with the dynamic perverted duo of Wanker TV makes sense to me.
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Hi Phil Jayhan and everyone.
I posted on Signs of the Times re: the Bollyn controversy in that same enormous thread and the cowardly censors banned me on my second post, which was, incidentally, somewhat sympathetic to Lisa -- yet I insisted that she was adding fuel with the anti-Bollyn tirades.
I initially thought these two were legitimate and that only Eric Hufschmid and Daryl Bradford Smith had a problem with them. Now it looks like a large chunk of the truth movement sees them as malicious provocateurs and are becoming increasingly marginalized and isolated day by day with Lisa's obnoxious ranting and bitching and Mufkaka's passive agreement. Lisa certainly wears the pants in this outfit!
If you listen to the last two shows on Christopher Bollyn you can see it's obvious they've exhausted any sympathy they might have gotten regarding Bollyn's hitpiece. All they have now primarily are their devotees at that Mufkaka/Giuliani love fest A.K.A. The Signs of the Times forum!Back to top
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Hi Phil Jayhan and everyone.
I posted on Signs of the Times re: the Bollyn controversy in that same enormous thread and the cowardly censors banned me on my second post, which was, incidentally, somewhat sympathetic to Lisa -- yet I insisted that she was adding fuel with the anti-Bollyn tirades.
I initially thought these two were legitimate and that only Eric Hufschmid and Daryl Bradford Smith had a problem with them. Now it looks like a large chunk of the truth movement sees them as malicious provocateurs and are becoming increasingly marginalized and isolated day by day with Lisa's obnoxious ranting and bitching and Mufkaka's passive agreement. Lisa certainly wears the pants in this outfit!
If you listen to the last two shows on Christopher Bollyn you can see it's obvious they've exhausted any sympathy they might have gotten regarding Bollyn's hitpiece. All they have now primarily are their devotees at that Mufkaka/Giuliani love fest A.K.A. The Signs of the Times forum!
<Voice of Rod Serling from the Twilight Zone here>
Two impetuous, selfish, people with a penchant for perversion join ranks with the 911 community after the nations greatest attack on its soil. All they know is hatred, strife, division, factions, and schizms. Unable to operate on any other level, and devoid of the meaning of professionalism, kindness or common sense, and even life itself, they set their sails for an unknown shore. They are soon to become pariahs, except with the few others who operate under the same dysfunctions as them.
At first they are embraced by a community desperate for any new voices and allies in the pursuit of 911 truth and justice. But one by one, through the sheer lack of any charachter on their parts, people distance themselves from them.
Enter Laura Knight Jadcyk, previously a psychopath, and now a self proclaimed expert on pyschopaths, and now a witch who speaks with reptillian aliens through the only medium she knows and is capable of operating under, her Ouiji Board.
Both her, and the dynamic duo are about to embark on a Journey, but not through time or space, nor of sight or sound, but rather a Journey through the dark pit of hatred, scorn and contempt. In the end, all three of them will wind up on the same shore. It is a shore without borders or end. Without shadows or light. It is a place where only the true trolls lurk. And where demons are no longer in the closet, or under the bed. It is a place which has a simple name called Hell and the only way to get here is to first come through, The Twilight zone....
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I couldn't resist. Welcome to the forums! And while Lisa wears the pants, am reasonably certain that Scott wears the panties.
You are correct. There is not a single person I am aware of in 911 that doesn't completely hate these two perverts. They are scorned, ridiculed, and held with contempt. The only forums they can be part of where they feel at home, are hosted by a witch, whose God is her Ouiji board, and perversion accepted as normal.
They are bad people with bad charachter, and should actually be ptiied if anyone can find the time.
cheers-
phil
link to Bollyns article on the Dynamic perverted Duo.
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Phil Jayhan wrote:
YearningforFreedom wrote:
Hi Phil Jayhan and everyone.
I posted on Signs of the Times re: the Bollyn controversy in that same enormous thread and the cowardly censors banned me on my second post, which was, incidentally, somewhat sympathetic to Lisa -- yet I insisted that she was adding fuel with the anti-Bollyn tirades.
I initially thought these two were legitimate and that only Eric Hufschmid and Daryl Bradford Smith had a problem with them. Now it looks like a large chunk of the truth movement sees them as malicious provocateurs and are becoming increasingly marginalized and isolated day by day with Lisa's obnoxious ranting and bitching and Mufkaka's passive agreement. Lisa certainly wears the pants in this outfit!
If you listen to the last two shows on Christopher Bollyn you can see it's obvious they've exhausted any sympathy they might have gotten regarding Bollyn's hitpiece. All they have now primarily are their devotees at that Mufkaka/Giuliani love fest A.K.A. The Signs of the Times forum!
<Voice of Rod Serling from the Twilight Zone here>
Two impetuous, selfish, people with a penchant for perversion join ranks with the 911 community after the nations greatest attack on its soil. All they know is hatred, strife, division, factions, and schizms. Unable to operate on any other level, and devoid of the meaning of professionalism, kindness or common sense, and even life itself, they set their sails for an unknown shore. They are soon to become pariahs, except with the few others who operate under the same dysfunctions as them.
At first they are embraced by a community desperate for any new voices and allies in the pursuit of 911 truth and justice. But one by one, through the sheer lack of any charachter on their parts, people distance themselves from them.
Enter Laura Knight Jadcyk, previously a psychopath, and now a self proclaimed expert on pyschopaths, and also a witch who speaks with reptillian aliens through the only medium she knows and is capable of operating under, her Ouiji Board.
Both her, and the dynamic duo are about to embark on a Journey, but not through time or space, nor of sight or sound, but rather a Journey through the dark pit of hatred, scorn and contempt. In the end, all three of them will wind up alone on the same shore. It is a shore without borders or end. Without shadows or light. It is a place where only the true trolls lurk. And where demons are no longer in the closet, or under the bed. It is a place which has a simple name called Hell and the only way to get here is to first come through, The Twilight zone....
*****
I couldn't resist. Welcome to the forums! And while Lisa wears the pants, am reasonably certain that Scott wears the panties.
You are correct. There is not a single person I am aware of in 911 that doesn't completely hate these two perverts. They are scorned, ridiculed, and held with contempt. The only forums they can be part of where they feel at home, are hosted by a witch, whose God is her Ouiji board, and perversion accepted as normal.
They are bad people with bad charachter, and should actually be pitied if anyone can find the time.
cheers-
phil
link to Bollyns article on the Dynamic perverted Duo.
[link to www.Gas_oven.com]
Some enjoyed this post and asked me to resubmit it along with this photo inserted above...
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i too got banned after two posts.. shame cos i didn't get to bring up the raffle scam..
she scammed over $100,000 and fled to france.
from the site mentioned before,
at this page: [link to www.cassiopaeacult.com]
Laura Knight Jadczyk in her former lair,
the house on Montana Avenue,
chain smoking and plotting revenge on the world.
The Great One at work,
channeling the Cassiopaeans via a ouiji board
while puffing on a cigar and drinking whiskey from a coffee cup...
there's a whole heap more on her around the web..
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I attended the Cassiopaeans quantum school in France last year.
I paid a hell of a lot of money and all I learned was that all of Leonardo Da Vinci´s work was about Laura Knight Jadczyk. I couldn´t belive it.
The school was in a chateau owned by the leader of the old rock group Flock of Seagulls.
Laura lectured at night sometimes.
She would chain smoke and she drank copious amounts of cheap French red wine while talking on and on about psychopaths.
I don´t even think she knew that she was slurring her words most of the time. What a waste of money and time.
When I got back to the US I felt like I had to take a hundred showers to get her cooties off of me.
it doesn't take a sherlock holmes to see
she's a lying, thieving, psychopathic cow.
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Michael Ruppert on Lisa Guliani and Victor Thorn
On the same day that Sliffe called my accountant with the blackmail threat, I received an email from one Scott Magufka a.k.a. Victor Thorn of WING TV. Clearly Thorn and the people in my office had been in contact and, as we will see, Thorn and his consort Lisa Guliani also have some interesting influence at the FBI. WING TV is a comical, very scary and highly “not-credible” Internet web site (more on this later).
WING TV – THE ATTACK POODLES
Thorn and Guliani have basically placed themselves in the wackiest of the wingnut regions of Internet. Even a casual read of their site leaves one incredulous at the lack of documentation, consistency and/or ethical standards.
But where I am the victim of ongoing criminal actions and can seemingly get no assistance from law enforcement, all Lisa Guliani has to do is pick up a phone and the local FBI office starts making phone calls harassing other left-leaning activists who were trying to get Thorn to appear on their show. If you click on the linked loudspeaker emblem labeled “FBI call” you will actually hear the FBI agent calling up and fruitlessly trying to intimidate an activist on Guliani and Thorn’s behalf.
I can get to ask questions in Congress – for Congress – but I sure can’t get that kind of law enforcement support. Since when has one progressive activist ever sunk so low in a dispute with another activist as to send the FBI to intimidate them?
Tim Barker then wrote some really shameless and dishonest critiques of me for WING TV right after Sliffe abandoned her job. I will not reprint them here because to do so would unnecessarily injure third parties. Barker had his own Achilles heel that might have made him susceptible to pressure. As the son of a famous movie actress he hadn’t paid taxes for years on the royalties from his mother’s films and the IRS was actively looking for him. I wonder if he traded his back taxes for a friendship. He certainly traded his honor.
I have been told by two sources that Thorn recently said either on his show or in a public chat session that someone should assassinate me as a war criminal after leveling the same terrorist threat at the excellent 9/11 researcher/activist Nick Levis. I don’t have time to look for it and I certainly am not flying to Pennsylvania on money I don’t have to make a fruitless complaint to the FBI who wouldn’t lift a finger to help me anyway. That’s another unpunished crime.
On the same day that Sliffe called my accountant with the blackmail threat, I received an email from one Scott Magufka a.k.a. Victor Thorn of WING TV. Clearly Thorn and the people in my office had been in contact and, as we will see, Thorn and his consort Lisa Guliani also have some interesting influence at the FBI. WING TV is a comical, very scary and highly “not-credible” Internet web site (more on this later).
WING TV – THE ATTACK POODLES
Thorn and Guliani have basically placed themselves in the wackiest of the wingnut regions of Internet. Even a casual read of their site leaves one incredulous at the lack of documentation, consistency and/or ethical standards.
But where I am the victim of ongoing criminal actions and can seemingly get no assistance from law enforcement, all Lisa Guliani has to do is pick up a phone and the local FBI office starts making phone calls harassing other left-leaning activists who were trying to get Thorn to appear on their show. If you click on the linked loudspeaker emblem labeled “FBI call” you will actually hear the FBI agent calling up and fruitlessly trying to intimidate an activist on Guliani and Thorn’s behalf.
I can get to ask questions in Congress – for Congress – but I sure can’t get that kind of law enforcement support. Since when has one progressive activist ever sunk so low in a dispute with another activist as to send the FBI to intimidate them?
Tim Barker then wrote some really shameless and dishonest critiques of me for WING TV right after Sliffe abandoned her job. I will not reprint them here because to do so would unnecessarily injure third parties. Barker had his own Achilles heel that might have made him susceptible to pressure. As the son of a famous movie actress he hadn’t paid taxes for years on the royalties from his mother’s films and the IRS was actively looking for him. I wonder if he traded his back taxes for a friendship. He certainly traded his honor.
I have been told by two sources that Thorn recently said either on his show or in a public chat session that someone should assassinate me as a war criminal after leveling the same terrorist threat at the excellent 9/11 researcher/activist Nick Levis. I don’t have time to look for it and I certainly am not flying to Pennsylvania on money I don’t have to make a fruitless complaint to the FBI who wouldn’t lift a finger to help me anyway. That’s another unpunished crime. |
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