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| OPie
User ID: 13018
7/15/2005 9:14 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Again -- what of the lottery?
Anyone ever reported this to the IRS? |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 14829
7/15/2005 9:34 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Let´s get back to the most important question of all.
What about the lottery? This is a very simple question, really. Very simple, and it should have been answered long ago.
V: Indeed, but it ain´t likely that any public, other than what was said on the now vanished French Connection, comments will be made. Might be used in court against them...
Laura and Ark may have addressed this question in the main cass group; I left before the supposed lottery actually took place. Nonetheless, it has not been addressed to the public. Again, it´s very simple.
Was there a winner? If not, was the money given back to everyone who "donated" or did you use the fact that it was considered a donation as reason enough not to have to give it back? (But can there be a donation if you were not legally a non-profit?) There was very definitely a house sale. That cannot be disputed, as it´s in the public records. How can you sell a house that was supposedly to be given away in a lottery?
V: A raffle is a type of gambling, and as so can only be legally conducted in Florida as a fund raising activity of a legitimate non-profit/charity. No legitimate non-profit, no legal raffle. Even if you had a legal raffle, simply cancelling the raffle and considering the income as a contribution is also not allowed unless you have the specific permission of every ticket holder, or it is stated prominently on the raffle ticket itself. However, it is also illegal to pretend to be a non-profit and collect donations. That is IRS fraud. And, even if you had a legal non-profit, you can not use the proceeds of such charitable donations to enrich one´s self. Doesn´t anyone remember what happened to Jim and Tammy Faye? Thye did announce a winner, the name can be found by searching the waybackmachine archive for February 2003, but it turned out that the name, and the address given, were totally false. No such peson existed... ( I don´t have specifics right at hand because I didn´t do the digging...)
In the case of the Cassiopaean House Raffle Scam, one can argue that it was devised purely as a scam, as they knew it was illegal, they arranged to keep the house, and they fled to France before the dust settled. Looked at objectively, it seems rather obvious: They collected a ton of $, told everyone a flat out lie and are now living off their ill-gotten gains...
THAT is the crux of the issue here. Why don´t you answer? Do you understand how it makes you look; i.e., guilty as sin? If there´s an honest answer, even a misunderstanding, for what happened, why not explain it?
V: They won´t because they can´t... They did the crime, and any response now will be used against them in court and they know it... To me, no matter what information or value the Cassiopaean experiment may have had or been, the flat fact now is that they are crooks, and a small but rather dangerous cult. The response from Joe Quinn earlier shows just how freaked out they are over our discussion here and the legal fallout that seems envitable now...
And this is for Joe and any others at the Chateau... French law will look at all of you as guilty until proven innocent when they move, and you will at least be deported. You may, if you contributed to the scam, be prosecuted under French law. Be warned!
VB |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 14829
7/15/2005 9:56 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Anyone ever reported this to the IRS?
Oh yes indeedy...
VB |
| OPie
User ID: 13018
7/15/2005 10:01 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Thanks, Vincent.
Yeah, actually, I knew those were the answers, but it sort of blows me away that people who are still on the Cass group ignore them, or try to deflect them. And this question is the main reason why I´m posting here. I can put up with all the he said/she said garbage (though it´s difficult), but when it boils over into what certainly appears to be out and out criminal activity and the fleecing of others, I have a real problem. The fact that they´ve never truly addressed the accusations says quite a bit in itself. I would certainly think that anyone who was innocent would explain themselves.
So I will continue to bump this thread until it gets some sort of official notice or until they give their contributors some sort of explanation. |
| Opie
User ID: 13018
7/15/2005 10:03 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Bump |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 14829
7/15/2005 10:09 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
So I will continue to bump this thread until it gets some sort of official notice or until they give their contributors some sort of explanation.
V: Yep... Let´s all do the Bump...
VB |
| FW: message from a casschat re
User ID: 14829
7/15/2005 10:18 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
The C-cult is gearing up for their escape fund... This from CassChat today:
No more LIES!
If you share with us this principle - please read what follows:
Signs of the Times - [link to signs-of-the-times.org] - is the unique
International Alternative News Resource that combines breaking
news with their analysis based on a deep understanding of the past
and of the future of our planet.
It evolved from the marriage of physics and the mysterious, starting
in the Spring 2002 with one or two new pages in a month. Today it is
a daily news, with its own server, its own publications, its world
famous Pentagon Strike flash animation. The progess that has been
made is really enormous - you may like to check SOTT archives at
[link to signs-of-the-times.org]
to see what an enormous amount of work has been put into its
existence.
Signs of the Times combines esotheric principles with a scientific
approach. SOTT Combines open-mindness with criticism. The main motto
being: No more LIES!
Today, when you search Google for documents from the domain signs-of-
the-times.org, Google returns 4,120 documents!
If you share with SOTT the idea of "No more LIES!" - you have a
chance to do something to help. SOTT has just announced the Summer
Fund Drive
- see [link to signs-of-the-times.org]
We are living in a non-linear world. A flap of the wings of a
butterfly may trigger a thunderstorm. Your donation, small or big,
your support in achieving our target, will help SOTT to continue and
to grow. Our data show that the flash animation Pentagon Strike has
been seen by over 300,000,000 people all over the world. This is an
example of the butterfly effect at work. This presentation baited
the Bush Cabal out of their complacency, leading to a Washinton Post
article attempting to marginalize SOTT, followed by a major campaign
to debunk the "no 757 at the Pentagon" idea, including articles in
Popular Mechanics and Scientific American. It´s clear that, of all
the alternative news sites, SOTT - with its Pentagon Strike video -
was the one that really stepped on the sore toe of the Liars.
Now, the SOTT Team with QFG member help have written and produced a
song that is currently propagating like wildfire, again. As a result
of these efforts, we have come to realize fully the power of
creativity. But to continue - and expand - we need your help. It is
more true than ever that so few are doing so much for so many with so
little. That´s why SOTT is launching a fund drive to raise E 28,000
by August 15. We need new computers and equipment for sound and video
editing. The success of this fund drive is essential for SOTT to meet
the goals we´ve set for ourselves.
Please give generously.
ark
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[link to quantumfuture.net] |
| OPie
User ID: 13018
7/15/2005 10:19 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Let´s .. sounds like a dance from the ´60´s, doesn´t it?
Bump |
| OPie
User ID: 13018
7/15/2005 10:21 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Bump again |
| OPie
User ID: 13018
7/15/2005 10:26 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Bump again |
| OPie
User ID: 13018
7/15/2005 10:30 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
So what about that lottery and subsequent sale?
Bump. |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 14829
7/15/2005 10:36 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
V: Sorry about that... It was me that posted the latest from CassChat...
No more LIES!
V: From the Liars themselves, oh how truly psychopathic..
That´s why SOTT is launching a fund drive to raise E 28,000
by August 15. We need new computers and equipment for sound and video
editing. The success of this fund drive is essential for SOTT to meet
the goals we´ve set for ourselves.
Please give generously.
ark
--------------------
[link to quantumfuture.net]
V: Humm, that´s 33,000 US$ folks, that they want from the faithful by next month... The goals they have is escape money...
VB |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 14829
7/15/2005 10:40 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
[link to signs-of-the-times.org]
This is truly obscene, as of tonight, they have raised almost 5,000E! Yee gods and chickens, where will it end?
VB |
| kris /nli
User ID: 8951
7/15/2005 10:42 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| kris /nli
User ID: 8951
7/15/2005 10:47 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Fund raising emphasis on Signs of the Times
and not the Cassiopaean materials. Interesting. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4240
7/15/2005 10:50 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I heard they were weighing the pros and cons of holding another lottery--prize: the Eiffel Tower. Guess they gave up that plan!  |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 14829
7/15/2005 10:52 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
[link to www.cassiopaea.org]
V: This is LKJ´s latest spin on the decline and fall of the Cassioapeans:
Because of these activities, we began to be subjected to intensified attacks that now included fanatics of the so-called “Christian Right,” and the label of “cult” was shouted louder and more often. As I noted, this became rather serious. We received death threats, our children were physically threatened, and in two cases, subjected to life-threatening attacks, our dog was poisoned, our names (including our children) and physical location was published on the internet with a request for “true believers” to go and "take care of” us (the implied intent was obviously to do physical harm, perhaps even causing death).
The attacks included a campaign of slander and defamation launched against us via the Internet, consisting of the most outrageous lies about our work and personal lives. We found that we were unable to do anything at all except to spend almost every waking hour defending ourselves, and staying awake at night in fear that fanatical fundamentalists would burn our house down as we slept.
We certainly made reports of this activity against us to the authorities in the U.S., including the FBI. The responses of these authorities consisted mainly in saying “its not our jurisdiction” or “anybody can say what they want”, to “there are more important things to investigate” since September 11, 2001.
We undertook our own investigation into the ringleaders of the attackers, paying a firm of investigators to produce complete background reports. With the elements of these reports, and using the internet as an investigative tool, we were able to track and map the connections of this group to what appears to be a CIA front that has funded several “real” cults, including gurus who claim to be alien “walk-ins” and other "Mystery Schools" dealing mainly with "Enochian Magic" and other nonsense that passes for hermeticism nowadays. In more recent times, "abductees" have joined the fray, claiming to be "recovered cult members" who "recognize" that we are, indeed, trying to start a cult!
After reading some of the "other" material available on the internet, it might be thought that the simplest reason behind the attacks on us was due to these individuals feeling threatened by exposure of their truly cultic money making scams. Nevertheless, there is still the problem of the U. S. authorities complete failure to act on our numerous complaints of criminal wrong-doing on the part of these individuals in their campaign of slander, libel, and defamation against us. We still cannot explain this. We further cannot explain why our work, in particular, has been targeted in the way it has when there are so many truly “cultic” groups operating in the U.S., who are allowed to operate unimpeded, and to perpetrate their obvious scams and frauds with complete impunity. The suggestion has been made that such groups are part of a vast secret “Counter-intelligence Program,” but even if that is the case, it does not explain why our work was particularly targeted for attack unless, of course, it is because it is "going in the right direction." At the same time, we can´t exclude the idea that these reactions are strictly mechanical in psychological terms. If a person perceives that something they believe in is threatened by facts, they might easily react to the threat in such ways.
V: Anybody want to count the lies and distortions in that one...
VB |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 14829
7/15/2005 11:12 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Mojo (and maybe a few of the other C group members) mentioned earlier in this thread that we should all go look at the entire correspondence between Laura and Vincent, that it would prove that Vincent contacted her first in order to steal all her knowledge and use it in “Monument”. So I followed the link and looked. Huh?
The first letter is from Vincent to Laura. However, it’s very obviously an answer to a letter from her to him. Where’s the letter that started the correspondence? Apparently it, in fact, is NOT the entire correspondence, and either she contacted HIM first or there is more correspondence missing. Furthermore, if this is supposed to prove that Vincent stole from Laura, it’s doesn’t. It shows Laura’s almost complete ignorance of the entire subject of Vincent and Jay’s book (including pointing out that she had never read Fulcanelli, because she hadn’t been able to get the book); moreover, it shows her gathering information from him. And being rather flirtatious while doing so (Vincent, I do believe Laura had a crush on you!). This whole accusation of plagiarism really surprised me when I saw it – that’s a new one from when I was in the C group. They apparently thought that one up after I left.
But, for the life of me, I don’t understand why they would even post this correspondence to their website and expect that it would prove to be anything other than a deep embarrassment. Yet they must really believe it proves something or they wouldn’t post it.
Weird.
V: Yes, isn´t it? I took alook at these old emails and I wa sfrankly shocked at how much I had told her, and how much of it is now part of C-world dogma...
Here´s an example, and I am mighty glad she has published it on the web with a solid 1999 date...
Date sent: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:54:01 -0500
To: & nbsp; lark2@ozline.net
From: ; Vincent & Darlene <abooks@ac.net>
Subject: Re:hendaye, etc,
The key is the strange region of the Pyrenees known as the
Bearn. Hesbaye is related to the Grail family traditions. They weren´t
apparently part of the Grail family, but were the guardians, originally a
group of renegade Templars on the run from Montsegur. They show up in the
noble families of the Bearn in the late 13th century and served some sort
of function in the 14th and 15th centuries connected to the houses of
Lorraine, Aragon and Provence. The name seems to come from Ostabot, or in
some sources Estsabot. This is very curious because this is the old name
for the village near the present day Hendaye. It was notable as a pilgrim
collection point and included the curiously named church "Our Lady of
Revelation." All trace of the church and the village have long since
vanished and there´s no direct linguistic connection between Hendaye and
Ostabot. The transposition into Hesbaye seems to be a later Frenchification
of what was originally a title, Eastern Cross or Top, as in spinning top.
This would appear to be reference to the ´eastern´ cross, maltese or equal
armed, of the Catherite Templars would fled with the Grail family into the
Bearn in 1244.
Now Parzival, weel, here we could fill a book. Wolfram, with his earnest
attempt at being simple and unlettered, tells us that it means pierced
through the heart, from the Old French "perce a val." Every name in Wolfram
contains a punning description of its character coded in the Green
Language. Parzival is the most important name in the book and the true
meaning of its significance is central to the tale itself.
When we put it through its Green Language homophonic process we come up
with an interesting series of cognate meanings: "Heartfire;" "Place of the
El;" "Through Isis´ Veil;" "Through Truth (or Wisdom);" "The Middle Way;"
"The Penetrating Light;" "Perfect Truth;" and so on. King Rene in the
mid15th century knew these meanings so well that when he designed the tarot
trumps, he dressed the Fool to look exactly like Parzival´s description in
Wolfram and thereby associated the Hebrew letter aleph, Greek Alpha, with
the Grail hero and the letter Tau, or cross, with his goal, the Grail
itself. Old King Rene was definitely onto something.
<<My "source" tells me: "From the Rose the cross arose..." Mean anything?>>
I was curious about your "source" but now I get it. To me this means from
any point of radial expansion, a cross is the definition of its plane of
expansion. Or, the rose at the center of the galaxy defines the axial
motion of its ecliptic plane to create two constant and unmoving cosmic
axis. This is the secret of the rose cross and rose anhk symbols used by
the early gnostic Copts to symbolize the alchemy of a steady state
universe. Heartfire indeed!
<<Did you ever ask yourself WHY PERCEVAL???? >>
As you can see, I have asked myself, and anyone else who might have a
suggestion. I would be interested in hearing yours.
<<Did you ever hear about the "renewing of the land" or some such thing
that was "accomplished" by the ancient Pharoah and his Queen? That they
took some sort of object in a barge down the Nile, once a year, went to a
temple and went in with the object alone (together) and performed some sort
of secret ritual known only to those of the "blood," and passed down from
king to king... etc... and that this ritual was the "thing" that kept
everything going? Also, have you heard about the Sufi teaching of the
"Poles of the world?" Is connected.>>
Such interesting questions! The ceremony you are referring to is the annual
sacred marriage, Hieros Gamos, of the living Gods, Horus and Hathor,
embodied by the Pharoah and his Queen and celebrated at the Great Temple at
Edfu. This continued, as a symbolic ceremony at least, until the reign of
the Roman Emperor Trajan, and is the ritual basis for the tantric alchemy
of Egypt. The Poles of the world come from the Bahir, an ancient Hebrew
illumination text, and in the Gnostic science of alchemy piece, chapters
eight and nine, I go into it in detail. Much of our first book deals with
these Poles, because of their relationship to the Hendaye astronomical code.
The key to understanding Wolfram´s work, both Parzival and Willehalm, on
the ground in southern France is the identification of the valley of
Soltane, where Herzeloyde took the young Parzival. Now here´s the deal. A
variety of different sources from different time periods -- Nostradamus,
Fulcanelli, Wolfram, etc. -- all left clues pointing to one particular
place as Soltane. However, for this to be true, there would have to have
been some sort of Catherite Templar survival down to at least the late 19th
century. Frankly, when we went to France I doubted that we would ever find
enough proof to make the identification. Was I wrong on that one!
There are only three places in France with the old word "Luz" or light in
their names. One is a small village between Carcassone and Couiza near RLC,
the other is the beach town St. John-de-Luz near Hendaye and the third is
in the Pyrenees near Lourdes. That one, Luz St Savior, was the logical
choice for Soltane, but until we got there we had no idea if there was
anything left to find, even if we were right.
But it matched the description in Wolfram perfectly. And, wonder of
unexplained wonders, there is an octagonal 13th century Templar
church/prefectory there that contains the names of local Templars,
including your Hesbayes, or Estabots, down to the early 20th century. There
is also a mysterious 13th century castle, the Chateau Marie, and massive
fortification blocking the only road or out of this mountain ringed valley.
Officially though, it is as if this doesn´t exist. Other than stones in the
churchyard and local legends, I could find nothing at all on this place in
the sources. It is even very rarely mentioned in works on Templars or their
churches. I found one reference in a French text on Templar architecture, a
note in T. E Lawrence´s early work on Crusader castles, (yep, he´s that
Lawrence) and a mention in passing in Fulcanelli of a Templar church with
an interesting tymphanum at Luz. And that´s it. Turned out that, according
to local legend, they were Cathers who had fled from Montsegur, and
therefore were written out of history. To this day the locals maintain a
"Garden of Bethany" spot at the foot of the hill on which Chateau Marie
stands. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 992
7/16/2005 12:33 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| kris / nli
User ID: 8951
7/16/2005 12:59 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
"Whoever can make sense out of all these turns of chance has been well treated by Wisdom..."
--from the start of Wolfram´s Parzival
[ so we can have something to read in the bumps.]
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| kris / nli
User ID: 8951
7/16/2005 1:03 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
one more from Parzival while we go through the bumps
"Real falsity he had shunned, for shame brings honor as a reward and is the crown of the soul."
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| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 13592
7/16/2005 2:16 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
V: Here´s another doozy of a lie from the article I cited above:
Regarding myself, I had formerly worked as a bureaucrat for the State of Florida, and as a part-time hypnotherapist under the aegis of various psychiatrists and psychologists, (which actually led to my later questions about, and experiments with "mind phenomena" leading to the Cass Experiment).
V: This, as can be discovered by reading Amazing Grace, is a total fabrication. Talk about bald-faced pathological lying...
VB |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18555
7/16/2005 6:25 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
correctimundo!
Delphine Fawandu
Open Society and Soros Foundation <<<<<<<<==============
Was that a joke too? i dont geddit.
me neither, that fucker Soros just is not funny
neither is Ark
they are twins
this will freak you out too then.........
"Soros has been called the master manipulator of "hit-and-run capitalism."
As we shall see, what Soros means by "open," is a society that allows him
and his financial predator friends to loot the resources and precious assets
of former Warsaw Pact economies. By bringing people like Jeffrey Sachs or
Sweden´s Anders Aslund and their economic shock therapy into these
economies, Soros lays the groundwork for buying up the assets of whole
regions of the world at dirt-cheap prices."
!!!!!!!!!
Anders Aslund and Open Society and Soros Foundation <<<<<<<<==============
LEt Opie do the talking!!! |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 11101
7/16/2005 8:38 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
message 20318 from CassChat
Re: Third Man Theme - Laura Responds
Now, let me repeat for emphasis what I said in the session above:
"What this means is that the work of discerning these organic portals from
souled human beings is CRUCIAL to the so-called ascension process. Without
the basic understanding of transformation of, and conservation of energies,
there is no possibility of fusing a magnetic center."
This is the THIRD MAN THEME.
Now, Ari has kindly provided an extract from the movie by that name. I
never saw this movie until long after the C´s had made their comment about
it, and when I did, it was in the Spring or early summer of 2002.
Those of you who have read the Wave and the Adventures series will know that
it was during this period that I was writing the Adventures, searching
desperately to understand just what kind of "thing" was this monster,
Vincent Bridges and his gang of cyber-terrorists.
The C´s had certainly put me in something of an awkward position by exposing
Vinnie in such a way that I actually DID see glimpses of what he was all
about, but to tell you the truth, I didn´t believe it. I had to "test" it.
Well, Vinnie failed - or passed, depending on your perspective - every test
that I made to determine if what the C´s were showing me was true.
I was truly horrified. Vincent Bridges was, in effect, the Third Man. He
was sent - in a sense - to teach me, to prepare me for the revelations about
Organic Portals, or what Mouravieff calls Pre-Adamic man.
I think about everyone can identify with how difficult this concept is to
conceive of particularly with all the programming we all receive via our
culture, religions, and so on.
But, after having been through the ordeals of facing daily a creature who
simply was NOT human in any sense that I understood "human," I was well and
thoroughly prepared to consider the idea when, shortly after watching the
movie, The Third Man and realizing that the "Third Man" was Vinnie and any
association with him would have so completely diverted me and the processes
of the C´s communications and so on, that nothing beneficial for anyone that
we have been able to accomplish since then would have even come to pass.
When you think about it, all of our understanding of the horror that faces
us on the planet today is due to the lessons I learned from Vinnie. He was,
indeed, a "Bridge to understanding."
Now, I know this is getting long, but bear with me. The session where the
Third Man Theme was mentioned was dated 7-19-97. Four years later, in
March, on March 19, to be exact, Vincent Bridges was at my house and sat in
on his first session. This was after "Frank" had decided he wasn´t getting
any glory or money and had decided to play head games with me to try to
manipulate me to pay him for attending sessions. At the time, I didn´t have
any confidence in being able to do the sessions with anyone else because, of
course, "Frank" had gone to great trouble to try to convince me that I
couldn´t.
So, there was Vinnie and we decided to try it. Vinnie, of course, had gone
to a great deal of trouble to try to convince me that he was some sort of
"soul twin" or something and that our meeting and working together was
"destined."
So, there we sat at the table trying to chat with the C´s. I´m going to
paste in a lot of the session because it is now even more interesting in
light of the "Third Man Theme" and other recent discussions.
March 19, 2001
Ark, Laura, Vincent Bridges
Q: Hello.
A: Hello.
Q: Is someone with us?
A: Air. Cassiopaea.
Q: Do we have the Cassiopaeans with us?
A: To U.
Q: Do you have a name?
A: Faitij. [Curious name; almost an Arabic flavor. Even more curious
considering the recent discussion about Castelsarrasin, or Castle of the
Saracens.]
Q: (L) Okay, we had a hypnosis session today. Did we do all that was
necessary to blow off the locks?
A: Close.
Q: (V) Did we do what was necessary for now?
A: Close.
Q: (A) What percentage of what was necessary to do did we accomplish?
A: 49 percent.
Q: (V) Was 49 the right number?
A: Yes. Laura has open window in more keys. ["keys" as in sound?]
Q: (L) Did we utilize the clues from last night properly?
A: Yes. Now must look us up to talk to us.
Q: (L) Look us up as in the phone book? (V) Look them up in the mirror. (L)
Is there...
A: Key FI 3 ["phi" 3?]
Q: (V) Key "phi 3?" You jokers! (L) What is phi 3? (V) Phi to the 3rd power?
(L) A phi circle with 3 turns?
A: Route. [Now, I am going to give just a hint: this clues means a LOT
now!!!]
Q: (V) Is this phi 3 a path or something?
A: Open your.
Q: (V) Open "your" phi 3? (A) Now route is French for road, and "F" could be
for France; and "I-3" could be a number of a road in France.
A: Yes. [Yes, indeedy...]
Q: (V) Are you pointing us to somewhere in France?
A: Yes.
Q: (V) Is it a place that either Ark or I have been to?
A: No.
Q: (V) Is it a place we should go to?
A: Yes. O T
[Skip the confusing back and forth on the. Suffice it to say, it is now
clear.]
Q: (L) Let´s go back.... You say "route." (V) Is it a place in France?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is it the name of a place?
A: No. Laura can see. [...]
Q: (L) Do we need to do it as soon as possible, like right away?
A: Open. Q: (L) Is there a couple word clue... [Begins to sweep the alphabet
as though gathering energy.] A: Key is not number mix F,
Q: (V) What?!
A: Yes. Five 3
Q: (L) So, you are saying that it may not be a number mixed with a letter,
but that the key is Five 3 O T.
A: Yes. Not key F I 3. Route I 3.
Q: (L) Not "phi," but a route with an F somehow. This is not making a whole
lot of sense here. I realize you are trying to tell us something, but you
are going to have to come at it another way because we just aren´t getting
it this way. (V) Are we understanding what we think we are getting?
A: Yes.
Q: (V) Can you be more clear because we aren´t understanding something here?
A: Titus lair.
Q: (V) Titus was an emperor, but that´s all I remember off the top of my
head. [We stop and look Titus up in a book and discover that he was the one
who sacked Jerusalem and was commemorated on the "Arch of Titus." It was
then suggested that the temple treasure was taken to Rome, and stolen from
Rome by the Visigoths.] (L) Okay, are we onto something with this Titus and
the Temple treasure? Is O T the Old Temple?
A: Yes.
Q: (V) Does this have to do with Perseus´ purpose?
A: Just told you. Place Laura must go to slow F I 3.
Q: (L) To "slow F I 3?" What is F I 3 that it must be slowed?
A: Sneak attack.
Q: (L) So, this is some kind of code for the route of entry of a "sneak
attack?" (A) And we must go there to slow this attack? (V) Can you tell us
more about this attack?
A: STS 4 D.
Q: (V) And what are the STS 4 D things attacking?
A: Earth.
Q: (L) So, you are saying that there is a doorway there that they can come
through, or do through, or plan to come through, or through which they can
send energy, or something along this line?
A: No.
Q: (L) There is something buried there that we must find to use to slow
this attack?
A: Yes.
Q: (V) If we find it, that will slow the attack?
A: Not just slow. Jump up the protection required in order to survive slam
by meteors in 2010 space war.
Q: (L) Well, I want to know... why do I have to be there? (V) Do all three
of us in this room have to be there?
A: Yes.
Q: (V) Why?
A: Must create conduit.
Q: (L) So, we are back to the seven people that must assemble?
A: No.
Q: (L) Doesn´t have to be seven. (V) But it has to be the three of us?
A: Yes. .... It is humanity´s hope for survival what lures you to the quest
here Perceval 3.
[...]
And there it was: The Third Man. What a trap.
Oh, yes, many of the clues were right on, but if Vinnie had been a "member
of the party," (as we now know fully) it would have been exactly like having
the "Third Man" as described in the movie right there ...
But I didn´t know that then. It was to be four months later that the
"revelation" was made when Vinnie visited again. You can get all the
details on this by reading the Mirror Session page on the site.
V; So, this is how important I have become to the inner mythology of C-world. My arrival was the turning point... Well, yep, I guess it was... My bad...
This came from my friend Ari, who is now being accused of being me, hardly surprising, since anyone taking a different perspective is obviously me. He ventured into C-world to ask a few questions and just see how they reponded. Now he knows...
VB |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 11101
7/16/2005 8:44 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Here´s another one:
Back to Ari´s remarks:
> Yes there is good and evil, and in some events great
>wisdom is required to tell the difference. But for the most part,
>practicing compassion, and living within a life affirming, that is do no
>harm, ethic, is all that is necessary. Beyond that, it is mostly
>ornamentation and thought control.
Laura responds: Here the big question is what is "practicing compassion" and
what is "living within a life affirming / do no harm" ethic, and who
decides?
It can even be said that such a simplistic view which, I should add, has
been promulgated for millennia by those who do not practice it, but who
promote it so as to weaken those on whom they intend to feed, is
"ornamentation" and "thought control."
Machiavelli observed that religion and its teachings of faith, hope,
charity, love, humility and patience under suffering were factors that
render men weak and cause them to care less about worldly and political
things, and thus they will turn political power over to wicked men who are
not influenced by such ideals.
Of course, the real trick is to convince people that the "afterlife" is the
only thing worth thinking about, and it is to this end that Christianity has
been formulated. It is also to this end that many of the New Age beliefs and
"formulations" of the truth about Ascension have been engineered. Let me say
this: if the Truth about the REAL process of Ascension were not so
detrimental to the agenda of the Controllers of our world, they would not
have gone to so much trouble to cover it up. When we finally make the
connection between that fact, and the fact that our governing elite are
operating on the instructions of the Controllers, we then begin to realize
that the drama on the political stage is a shadow of the higher level
agenda. And that leads us to realize that the COINTELPRO operation in the
New Age and Human Potential movement has truly been the "opening act."
Allow me to repeat this Chorus to the Third Man Theme:
Could it ever be an evolutionarily stable strategy for people to be innately
unselfish?
On the whole, a capacity to cheat, to compete and to lie has proven to be a
stupendously successful adaptation. Thus the idea that selection pressure
could ever cause saintliness to spread in a society looks implausible in
practice. It doesn´t seem feasible to outcompete genes which promote
competitiveness. Nice guys get eaten or outbred. Happy people who are
unaware get eaten or outbred. Happiness and niceness today is vanishingly
rare, and the misery and suffering of those who are able to truly feel, who
are empathic toward other human beings, who have a conscience, is all too
common. And the psychopathic manipulations are designed to make psychopaths
of us all.
V: This, folks, is truly scary... Machiavelli... Compassion and empathy leads to getting eaten by the strong and ruthless..?. Guess which the C-cult are?
VB |
| AC girl
User ID: 3382
7/16/2005 10:36 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Yes, Vin, it causes a great deal of despair. People must use discernment when reading the Cass stuff. Your contribution here is invaluable.
Anders....don´t get as paranoid as Laura. I love you, dearest, and you are v. valuable to this forum. Delphine is my friend, she´s a good person and is not connected to the Cassies. She was simply trying to understand.
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| ac girl
User ID: 3382
7/16/2005 10:38 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
(Vin, while I have your ear, so to speak, thought you might be interested in this guy´s work:
[link to www.coralcastlecode.com]
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424
7/16/2005 10:47 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I will say one thing for Laura´s teachings:
Without an afterlife and justice of an all knowing God, billions of people down through history who never had a chance at life, who were wrongfully murdered, died young of starvation, neglect, and etc, will never have or see justice or experience all the blessings Laura and many others have, who may or may not have deserved those blessings but got them just the same. To suggest any other outcome in order to promote an eye for an eye, survivalist mentality, is the epitome of Service to Self. It takes a certain amount of blindness to the suffering of others, to condemn so many to the nothingness of the grave or a court of justice wherein no justice resides. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8226
7/16/2005 11:30 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
V: This, folks, is truly scary... Machiavelli... Compassion and empathy leads to getting eaten by the strong and ruthless..?. Guess which the C-cult are?
VB
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Her world view is all screwed up. She has put "afterlife" in quotes, as if she has no concern about it. She is so focused on the negative side of people that she has become that way herself, or more so. That must be why she has always had such contempt for the "nice" people in UFOlogy and New Age. She also has the Cassiopaeans saying many times "You are all STS". She probably hates the STO role but has to give some lip service to it to keep people from being totally repelled by her writings, but throughout tries to persuade that only the STS can win at life.
Whereas she earlier seemed to use it to show how to more effectively fight back against evil by not being a wimp (or maybe that´s just what I chose to see), now it looks like she has recognized that STS is the only way of life that earns her respect, and she seems to be actively promoting it as the superior way to live, the only way to win, and no penalties involved if you can continue to stay on top and beat down your enemies. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 6109
7/16/2005 11:58 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Anders....don´t get as paranoid as Laura. I love you, dearest, and you are v. valuable to this forum. Delphine is my friend, she´s a good person and is not connected to the Cassies. She was simply trying to understand.
Ac Gal, just shaking the tree (wink)!
Although I must say it is amazing how many people are posting on behalf of friends and partners too shy to approach the keyboard! LOL. |
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