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| StormBear
User ID: 452058
7/2/2008 1:56 PM
 | | StormBear
User ID: 452058
7/2/2008 1:59 PM
| | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Whoo Hoo! 159 pages!
How long will it be till we hit 160?
It Came From Cassiopiea, only at
[link to www.towncalleddobson.com] |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 462070
7/2/2008 10:07 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Crypto-Jews... LOL!
VB |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 462334
7/3/2008 11:22 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hypocrisy alert:
[link to www.sott.net]
The concept of a website where individuals can post defamatory remarks about any other person else without being required to provide evidence or data to back up their claims makes the site useless; little more than an online food fight that attracts and promotes pathological behavior. Womansavers does not seem to take care to distinguish between the pathological and the normal. A site such as Womansavers makes it easy for pathological individuals to defame and/or destroy the lives of decent people.
VB: Now if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black... Defamatory remarks with no evidence, isn't that what they are being sued for?
VB |
| pit the brief
User ID: 382930
7/3/2008 3:38 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
when suing zoros i was too shy asking for $470 billion and 474 pences |
| StormBear
User ID: 452058
7/3/2008 8:26 PM
| | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hypocrisy alert:
[ link to www.sott.net]
The concept of a website where individuals can post defamatory remarks about any other person else without being required to provide evidence or data to back up their claims makes the site useless; little more than an online food fight that attracts and promotes pathological behavior. Womansavers does not seem to take care to distinguish between the pathological and the normal. A site such as Womansavers makes it easy for pathological individuals to defame and/or destroy the lives of decent people.
VB: Now if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black... Defamatory remarks with no evidence, isn't that what they are being sued for?
VB
GOOD GOD!
That is a serious WTF moment!
It Came From Cassiopiea, only at
[link to www.towncalleddobson.com] |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 463159
7/4/2008 11:11 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
The Great Cassiopaean Conspiracy Delusion:
Or how I came to be an icon of evil in an alien channeling cult
© 2008 by Vincent Bridges
A lie gets around the world, before truth can get its boots on…
This Saturday, July 5th, will be seven years since the infamous mirror session, and August will be the seventh anniversary of the beginning of their campaign of “systematic harassment.” For seven long, painful and distressing years, I have been struggling with the Laura and the C-Cult’s lies, accusation, innuendoes and defamation and enough is enough. I kept the struggle going because I felt that Laura and Ark had created a very dangerous cult, and that I had helped them get it started. Well, I think I have paid for my guilt…
In these seven years, I have received hundreds of emails from folks who have thanked me for standing up to the Cult, speaking the truth in the face of their insanity. That kept me going through a lot of bad spots, and made the struggle worthwhile. I did what I could to help.
But, as I said, enough is enough…
Here the basic facts:
Back in 1994, Laura Knight Martin and Fred Irland began to experiment with a ouiji board. They received some results from beings claiming to be 6th density aliens transmitting through Cassiopaea. The Cs, as they came to be called, seemed to use a lot of ideas and terminology lifted from other channelers, such as the Pleiadians and the RA material. The “experiment” stumbled on for a couple of years, with Laura speaking at MUFON conferences and lecturing anyone who would listen on her tale of UFO sightings and alien communication.
This is how Tom French first saw her: “To say that Laura made an impression that day is an understatement. When it was her turn to speak, she instantly seized control of the room. She had so much presence, she was almost radioactive. And hers was no ordinary presence. She was not about to be mistaken for a movie star; she was overweight and slightly mussed, and her clothes were almost defiantly unfashionable. She wore leggings that, as I recall, were a little too tight and a tunic adorned with amber beads and painted gold spirals. I took one look at her and said to myself, “I bet she has a bust of Elvis in her living room.”
However, when MUFON didn’t immediately acclaim her UFO revelations, Laura went into a deep funk. Even Tom French, who was writing an article on her, was concerned when she announced that her husband, and father of one and maybe two of her five children, was an alien reptoid replicant designed to stop her from spreading the message.
“At one point, she went to see a psychiatrist. Afterward, she told me what had happened. She had given the psychiatrist her life history, told him about the face at window and the other disturbing childhood episodes. She said that he had suggested she consider the possibility that she was traumatized as a child. She did not agree; she said her recollections of the incidents were too vivid and real for her to have imagined them. Laura pressed the doctor for help. What should she do? How was she supposed to handle these memories that haunted her? He said she should try to stop thinking about them, learn to cordon off those areas of her mind. Laura didn’t think it was possible.”
[link to www.sptimes.com]
[link to www.cassiopaeacult.com]
Here’s how Tom French addressed the issue of Laura’s sanity:
“As she once wondered about other people who believe they have been abducted, I thought it conceivable that Laura had suffered some sort of traumatic abuse as a girl and was inventing these alien episodes to cover up her memories of the abuse. Some details from her early history might fit with this theory. A succession of men did move through Laura’s childhood. After Laura’s parents divorced, her mother had remarried four times; once, Laura says, one of her stepfathers kidnapped her for several days.
“I asked Laura if she had ever been abused by that stepfather or anyone else. She said no, absolutely not. When I asked for details of the kidnapping, she said she did not know. She had almost no memory of it, she said; it was all a blank.
“Other possibilities occurred to me. I wondered if maybe Laura had imagined the face at the window and all the other strange episodes as a way of injecting drama into her life. Was it possible that she was bored, or lonely, or simply so desperate to find something to occupy her mind that she had created this huge fantasy? What if all of it - the exorcisms, the spirit detachments, the channeling with the Cs - was just some massive, unruly play that her subconscious was constantly staging to keep things interesting?
“Then, of course, there was the simplest explanation. What if Laura was a victim of some psychosis?
“This was a possibility Laura repeatedly raised herself. “Sometimes I think I’m losing my mind,” she said to me. “Is this what being mad is like? Because, you know, some really crazy people can really seem sane.” |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 463159
7/4/2008 11:14 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
The Great Cassiopaean Conspiracy Delusion:
Or how I came to be an icon of evil in an alien channeling cult
© 2008 by Vincent Bridges
(Continued...)
But she survived her depression, divorced Lewis Martin, and in the spring of 1997 Polish physicist Dr. Arkadiusz Jadczyk somewhat mysteriously arrived on the scene after a whirlwind courtship with Ms Knight-Martin on the web. Dr. Jadczyk had a long history as a high-energy mathematical physicist working for various branches of the Polish government and observing the other research centers in Europe. This doesn’t quite make him a spy, see his CV on the Cassiopaean website, but what happened after he met Ms. Knight-Martin does make one wonder.
Dr. Jadcyzk was inconveniently already married, as was Ms. Knight-Martin at that point, and at first he found it impossible to arrange a visit to the States. Suddenly, a grant arrived, from the George Soros Foundation by way of the Central European University, and after a brief visit to the CEU (where apparently some kind of identity theft occurred, see Adventures with the Cassiopeans in the Matrix Part 18 for details), Dr. Ark arrived in Florida. Apparently it wasn’t love at first sight, but Dr. Ark quickly found out that whatever deal he had made with whatever devil, he was about to be held to account.
He found that both his job, at the University of Wroclow, and his marriage were in trouble; his wife took every dime of savings they had. Dr. Ark, literally, had no choice but to return to the States and his romance with Ms. Knight-Martin and the Cassiopaeans. They got married, and for a while Dr. Ark did a little teaching and some DARPA consulting, until his clearance was pulled and the University of Florida discovered his proclivity for ouiji aliens and anti-gravity devices. After that, it was full time work on the Cassiopaean Cult. (See Adventures with the Cassiopeans in the Matrix Part 19 for details.)
With Dr. Ark’s skilful guidance, what once was a simple tea and trances con game became a worldwide conspiracy movement. The changes were implemented slowly and in stages, but the end result was unmistakable. As even Dr. Sauder, whom the Cassiopaeans love to quote, commented, they appear to be a very clever and sophisticated, “insidious and devious,” intelligence operation. With even a little awareness of Dr. Ark’s background, and it is all on the website in various places, it becomes apparent that the Cassiopaeans may have started out harmless, but they were hi-jacked and co-opted by some very complex intelligence operation.
I began exchanging emails with Laura in the spring of 1999 and continued until February 2000, when the St. Pete Times article cited above came out. Their response to the article was so paranoid that I stopped our communication. In the summer of 2000, Laura contacted me and against my better judgment, I got involved once again. By the spring of 2001, I was deep into what would become the cult, and Laura had nothing but praise. Like Tom French, I was charmed, and I offered to help her, I featured her at our conference that fall and offered to publish her book.
By that summer, I knew too much, had told them too much, and was longer needed. So began their campaign of systematic harassment… (For a complete time line see: [link to www.cassiopaeacult.com]
And that campaign continues to this day. In the last few months, as the HBI defamation suit closed in on them, Laura and the cult began to spread their lies about me across the internet in any attempt to make sure that their libel survived the impending collapse of C-World and its websites. Posting their “expose” on purplehaze’s predator site was one such move and the example below is another:
[link to www.stumbleupon.com]
This is from a mirror site owned by Prayers-for-rain, who describes herself as: “Prayers for Rain …a 31 year old woman in a relationship from South West, France.” She links to the above with the following comment:
“Don't miss this article: A real account of someone having been harassed by a psychopath -- an agent paid to do a defamation and stalking job over the Net, to destroy the work of someone standing for the Truth: "UPDATE 2008: After SIX YEARS of constant defamation and cyberstalking on the part of Vincent Bridges and his associates, the enormous amounts of time and even money that are spent on this activity, we suggest that it is time to state the obvious: Vincent Bridges is not just a cyberstalker, he is a paid COINTELPRO agent." <= Does he look like a total psycho? Hannibal Lecter? Appearances ARE misleading!”
The Update 2008 comment is from the very top of the page of their Vincent Bridges libel pages. They put it up just as HBI sued for defamation. Now, I am not just a cyberstalker, which I am not, but they announce with all the weight of their assumed authority, that I am a paid COINTELPRO agent.
And what’s the evidence for this? Oh just the usual ouiji board revelations…
(I do want to thank her for including the new Libel Update along with the old update from 2003 that showed that they had a chance to let the whole thing go and chose not to. All my comments had been taken down by that point; so it proves in her own words a pattern of deliberate libel stretching from 2003 to the present.)
Keep in mind that this “expose” has changed at least six times, that I can find on the webarchive or in my files, since it went up in November 2001. It went through several waves of maliciousness and serious defamation before settling down to its present somewhat restrained tone. This version focuses on what they consider their strongest evidence; that I am some kind of cyberstalker.
After several paragraphs of her usual self-serving verbiage, she starts making her case. “The attributes of internet technology - low cost, ease of use, and anonymous nature, among others - make it an attractive medium for fraudulent scams, child sexual exploitation, and increasingly, a new concern known as "cyberstalking."
Another paragraph or two and she announces: “It was only later, after many other strange events transpired, that it was learned that Bridges, himself, had sent the above email with the hope that it would "re-start" the correspondence without him having to appear as the initiator. This is a typical tactic of the cyberstalker - to "create" seeming synchronicities so that the victim will be emotionally "ripe" for manipulation.”
Any proof of this? Nope, nada, nothing… Just LKJ’s typical pronouncement of fact, in her reality…
Then she spends a few paragraphs suggesting that I was trying to con her out of her work by offering to publish it. In the midst of these self-serving comments, Laura serves up this: “As one observer of the dynamic noted succinctly: "If other people are so knowledgable about what Laura is doing so that they are qualified to pass judgment, then why aren't they conducting their own successful "experiment?" Why haven't their lives changed dramatically - and for the better - as Laura's and Ark's have because they have actually APPLIED the things they have learned?"
And what have they learned, exactly? That it is better to earn your living off the work of others than to do any work of your own, perhaps? Better to run a small time Internet con-game, trying to sell channeled antigravity devices to Finnish Israeli businessmen and pretending to be a news organization, and of course building up the cult and calling me names, than do anything productive. It seems that any application of the Cassiopaean wisdom is actually very STS, if you use Laura and Ark as an example.
And then, suddenly, the real fun begins:
“In the summer of 2001, Mr. Bridges came to visit Laura with the intent of attempting to hypnotize her to try to extract information that he believed she had in her subconscious. Laura cooperated with this experiment and, as a consequence, perceived a direct visual representation of Vincent Bridges himself! What she saw stunned her. His "mask" was so effective and convincing that Laura could hardly believe that what she was seeing was true.”
But she went out of her way to prove it anyway.
See [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
For a complete look at her “campaign of systematic harassment” that started all this… |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 463159
7/4/2008 11:16 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
The Great Cassiopaean Conspiracy Delusion:
Or how I came to be an icon of evil in an alien channeling cult
© 2008 by Vincent Bridges
(Continued...)
Now notice that nowhere, throughout the dozen or so paragraphs where she discusses the events outlined above, does she cite a source or provide a link. Why? Because there aren’t any that supports her point of view. Try looking for anything about the original events and my supposedly horrible comments. Does anyone think that if she had such comments, and they were really terrible like Jay’s, that she wouldn’t have them out front and center? So where are they?
Nope… The truth is that Laura had her “psychic” flash, which, according to her comments above, could just as easily have been about her inner life, and then she very carefully began to trash me and my work, backed out of the conference and the book deal and launched her attacks as part of what she described to the inner circle as her “campaign of systematic harassment.” I was upset and shocked by this behavior, and attempted to communicate directly with those involved, and so these communications, all very polite and professional, became the “vicious and extreme attacks.”
All of this can be seen at:
[link to www.cassiopaea.com]
This webpage also proves that their attacks and attempts at defamation began in mid August, not months later after imaginary attacks from me: “Even though there was a history of fraud, Ark and Laura were reluctant to publish the report on Bridges. However, after three months of exhausting cyber-attacks including public defamation and cyberstalking, it became necessary to respond publicly. The results of the initial investigation were published on Thanksgiving Day, 2001.”
Again, where are the links to page after page of emails and so on containing evidence of “three months of exhausting cyber-attacks including public defamation and cyberstalking?” There are no links because there is no evidence, none, nothing, nada… Just another self-serving lie, one that is easily refuted by their own website.
And then the real defamation begins; starting with the totally outrageous accusation that I tried to blackmail or extort her over her “expose.” In the course of that amazing piece of paranoia, she revealed her criminal history, something I had heard from Tom French and confirmed with Fred Irland. But my comments were concerning the unedited transcripts, and had nothing to do with her trial for attempted murder; and in no way can be construed as blackmail or extortion.
The next is even better:
“We learned later that in addition to what we knew about his public activities, that Vincent was up to a lot more nefarious things behind the scenes. The reader may want to have a look at the data - including evidence - that Vincent Bridges was hacking into the computer of a member of our research groups and stole her passwords and used her internet account to the tune of about $800.00 over a period of three months. That's a lot of bandwidth!”
Except, there is no evidence. All they have is the fact that I tried to post to their comment board through several different earthlink dialup numbers. And of course, this has nothing to do with their main accusation that I hacked the woman’s computer. Here’s the comment from the Bellsouth investigator:
“Basically, she said that there was no question I had been hacked. She said that it was probable that I was the victim of a trojan also. She said that the hacker is extremely shrewd. The hacker used a "roaming" number, which is a Bellsouth "roaming" number only given out to Bellsouth customers when they advise Bellsouth they will be travelling and will need to access their Email from outside of their access area. She said that by utilizing this roaming number, the hacking activities are untraceable as it appears that I had the number and I used it. She said there was nothing that Bellsouth could do to help me track, identify, or "catch" this hacker due to the roaming number.”
So where’s the connection? Detective Breedan wanted to know as well:
“It is not illegal for him to post to a public guestbook on the web. I am missing how you have connected these contacts directly to him beyond reasonable doubt, which is what a jury requires. We investigate cases everyday where the suspect goes through other servers that have been left "open" which in effect masks their IP and allows them some degree of anonymity. So, that may be what he is doing, or it could be someone else who wants you to think it is him. I will be glad to talk to you again, but I still do not see the crime in this matter that FDLE would investigate.”
So where is the proof? If they had a match between one of comments and the woman’s IP address, then why would they make the following comment?
“And, it is in the fact that Mr. Bridges has, above, admitted that those posts were his, even though he lied about them all coming from his "earthlink" account, that we have more to provide as evidence. Also, the many posts that Mr. Bridges has made from other IP numbers as Special Agent Breeden describes above, can be compared to the times he might have been using Ms. F**'s internet access via a roaming number.”
Right? If they had any evidence, then why would they want to look for it? Just more self-serving lies… Including of course lying in a police report.
The next few paragraphs are the most interesting of all:
“In January 2002, a former member of the Cassiopaea experiment, Frank Scott joined forces with Vincent Bridges to discredit the experiment, to label the members of the research group as members of a "cult," obviously in a concerted effort to put an end to the experiment itself, to further destroy Ark and Laura's reputations, and thus to deprive them of the means of earning their living.
“Laura had to acknowledge the fact that two people she liked very much, whose companionship she had enjoyed immensely, and who she felt could have been the most marvelous of co-experimenters, were simply not what they had presented themselves to be. She had, in short, been victimized by individuals fitting the profile of the psychopath.
“Day after day Laura struggled to make sense of what was happening in her life. She was heartbroken. Her health deteriorated rapidly, and in January of 2002 she suffered a life-threatening illness that was a direct result of the daily stress of being stalked, defamed, threatened and harassed.
“After she had recovered enough to sit at her desk, Laura did the only thing she knew to do with what she had learned: she sought daily to understand the dynamic she had experienced and then, shared it with others by writing the Adventures Series, an account of the events and dynamics as well as the many threads of research she followed and the results.”
Rather than come to terms with the fact that Fred was tired of being maligned and insulted while they “earned their living” from his work, and that I was legitimately angry at being duped, fleeced and defamed, or that the many people leaving the group in disgust over her tactics were in fact right that she had strayed far from STO, Laura has a mental meltdown in which she decides that everyone but herself and those who completely agree with her are in fact “psychopaths.” This would seem to be the basic hallmark of insanity: “I’m right and everyone else is wrong, right?”
But to Laura it came as a great insight:
“As it turned out, Laura's act of converting her suffering to sharing led to some of the most profound revelations brought forth in modern times regarding the nature of our reality. Seeking to understand the inexplicable perceptions and capacity for deception of Vincent Bridges, Frank Scott, and others involved in the attacks, Laura searched and probed and "tested" on the daily public stage of the internet. The search for answers led to revelations about psychopaths, a topic crucial to understanding history, religion, politics, and many other social constructs. This material found validation in the most interesting ways in terms of the work of Bob Altemeyer on the Right Wing Authoritarian personality type, not to mention some esoteric sources that emerged from the Eastern Orthodox tradition! Without this understanding, it would be almost impossible to comprehend the events on the World Stage, including the behavior of George Bush and his gang.”
Now, you couldn’t make this stuff up. As fiction it sounds contrived and over the top, but presented as fact it is stunning. So, her understanding of myself and Fred, based on ouiji board comments and mirror visions, led to the revelation of the ultimate conspiracy theory; psychopaths rule the world. Just a little paranoid delusion at work…
Here’s how her great revelation appeared to her then:
“I could see a 4th density “controller” sitting at a big computer console with buttons and levers and dials. He had a screen on which he watched human affairs, and all he had to do was sort of “lock in the target” on a particular person displayed on the screen, and begin pushing buttons and levers, and turning the different dials to put certain inputs into the situation. These machinations produced frequencies that stimulated certain chemicals in the bodies and brains of the individuals displayed on the screen, and there were nearly infinite possibilities of manipulation available just through this kind of activity. I laughed at this vision, of course, because it was almost like a comic strip character. But I was later to learn how much it really does seem like this is the real way it works.”
Just like her husband, Lewis Martin, whom she claimed was an alien replacement, Fred and I had threatened her very carefully constructed fantasy world; we could expose her for the psychic fraud that she was and end her “experiment.” It was either sanity or the Cs, and Laura chose the Cs. The idea of replacement had advanced to that of “psychopaths” and eventually Organic Portals. It was all too painfully obvious reading her tortured versions of Adventures, such as the quote above, that the poor woman was unraveling mentally. I don’t think anyone could have imagined what the end result would be.
Prayers-for-rain commented: “A real account of someone having been harassed by a psychopath -- an agent paid to do a defamation and stalking job over the Net, to destroy the work of someone standing for the Truth.” Unfortunately, the account is not real; I am not a psychopath, and certainly not a paid agent of anyone’s. If anything, it shows Laura and the Cult systematic harassment of me, not the other way around. As for the truth, well, I don’t think Laura even knows what that is anymore.
For her and the Cult it has now become a matter of faith, deep religious belief in the power of the Cs, that Fred and I are psychopaths. No matter that Fred was the main channel of the original material, he betrayed Laura and so must be a psychopath. I am one because the “mirror session” says I’m one, and because I won’t go away and shut up. So, I’m a cyberstalking psychopath of a COINTELPRO agent, despite all evidence to the contrary, because if I’m not, then all of her theories are wrong and her grand conspiracy theory is wrong.
And that, Laura will never admit…
VB |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 459082
7/6/2008 10:48 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
BRAVO Vincent.
Let's not take our eye off the ball.
Crunch time is coming soon...
Meanwhile, found this - see the original link for appropriate use of bolding...
[link to educate-yourself.org]
Letters to The Editor
Laura Knight Jadczyk/Cassiopaea.org
[link to educate-yourself.org]
May 14, 2007
Subject: Laura Knight Jadczyk/Cassiopaea.org
From: Craig Thomas
Date: Mon, May 14, 2007
To: Editor
I read your article on Laura Knight Jadcyzk and the Cassiopaean site with much interest. I have read the transcripts of the channeled sessions with the Cassiopaeans and most of the material on the web site. Her meticulous details in the articles concerning history and Christianity are refreshing and thought provoking. No where does she say to believe what she says but to find out for yourself those things that are rarely answered or even discussed in today's "society".
The criticisms leveled against her are obvious in their use of disinformation and the subjective use of language. Anonymous sources and emotional verbage have no place in serious discussion. Instead they tend to inflame and justify the thoughts of those who have already reached their conclusions and close what open-mindedness they may still possess. Those who are offended by the Cassiopaean's use of objectivity in describing possible futures and present day events are seemingly not averse to using subjective descriptions of their own opinions without the use of any facts what so ever. That's called propaganda and it has no bearing in meaningful discussion of any type.
Your sideways condoning of such an "opinion" is disheartening in it's revelation of ...well, I'll leave that one to you. I have no intent to insult and I do not know you personally. The mixing of the excellent information on your site with disinformation such as this article is prevalent on the internet today. But it does make it fun and interesting in the pursuit of knowledge. Please do continue with your site. It does have much useful infomation in more ways than one.
Take care, Craig Thomas
***
Hi Craig,
Good letter.
I did not write the piece about Laura, another woman was the author. I have reservartions about Laura, but that doesn't mean I can't find value in her info. I like much of what Montalk has to say and he's a big fan of her stuff. However, Montalk isn't infallible either and I've noticed that he can drift off the mark too.
Laura is a mixed bag as far as I'm concerned and intelligent people can come to their own conclusions.
Regards, Ken
***
Subject: Re: Laura Knight Jadczyk/Cassiopaea.org
From: Craig Thomas
Date: Tue, May 15, 2007
To: Editor
Ken,
Thanks for the quick reply. I'm glad you took my letter in stride. I love to write and internet sites are a handy venue.
I agree with you about Laura. I often observe their forum and the long term members are quick to pounce on new members who don't agree whole heartedly with her. Ark has become cold and lacks a natural easiness in his comments and is instead too stern and lofty. Laura's criticism of other authors is often impatient and lazy. She seems like another person compared to her early dialogues with the Cassiopaeans and as far as I know there are no further releases of the channeling except for books which are a bit pricey. I also wonder about the ongoing request for donations to keep the site alive.
Laura replied on their forum to the person who wrote the article on your site and did it quite well but fell into the emotional well of anger by doing so. She also comments on politics regularly and often vehemently while the Cassiopaeans had advised her to not get involved as nothing happens in politics that has not been planned. I seem to have written a critique of that which I had earlier defended. I feel more rounded already.
Take care, Craig Thomas
*** |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 133983
7/7/2008 12:39 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
[link to www.sott.net]
Well, they are back at it again...
First, Ark weighs in with a sermon from St Augustine on lying, claiming that I am lying for the fun of it. His proof is a few sentences from my 4,000+ word article posted here on 7/4:
"Dr. Jadczyk had a long history as a high-energy mathematical physicist working for various branches of the Polish government and observing the other research centers in Europe. This doesn’t quite make him a spy, ... at first he found it impossible to arrange a visit to the States. Suddenly, a grant arrived, from the George Soros Foundation by way of the Central European University..."
The first sentence is taken from his own CV and the last from Laura own Adventures series, original parts 18 & 19. So, if they are lies, then his CV is a lie and so is the information in Adventures... Naturally, he doesn't note which lies he claims I am telling are just for fun.
But they sure do read this thread religiously...
However, rather than deal with any of the lies I pointed out in my article, Laura, in the next post on that page, starts in again defaming Pepin and HBI, and even the attorneys involved. It is quite the stunning read, in true rambling Laura fashion...
In a move that must have their lawyers pulling out their hair, Laura has addressed, point for point, the "Opposition to Motion to Dismiss." First she admits that the libel took place, but tries to argue that it couldn't have had any effect on HBI's business because so few people read it.
Note that nowhere in this long screed does she mention the only real defense she has: that the libelous comments were in fact true. Why not? Because she knows that they are lies. She has no evidence, nothing but her dislike of anyone who tries to poach her cult members, that Pepin or HBI are COINTELPRO and certainly none that HBI is a front for pedophilia. They are simply the same casual and dismissive lies Laura projects onto everyone who doesn't agree with her completely.
Think of it this way: Laura was arrested and tried for attempted murder, but, just like Mr. Pepin, she was acquitted. If we infer from this that QFS is a front operation for Murder Incorporated, then we have done the same thing that Laura has done to Mr. Pepin and HBI. And of course, if we claimed such a thing as an expert on murder for hire, then we might expected to be sued for libel.
Her comment about HBI and COINTELPRO is an even more indefensible lie. There is far more evidence, considering Ark's history with DARPA and the DOD, SnOTT's political agenda, the pentagon strike video and the attempts to inject their anti-Semitc eugenics into the 9/11 movement, that the Cassiopaeans themselves are COINTELPRO. Against HBI, there is nothing whatsoever, none, nada, zilch... Nothing but Laura's kneejerk reaction...
But Laura can't be wrong, she's the great expert, right? So the charade continues...
"One of the main planks of the HBI argument seems to be that, even though HBI is a company formed to market the "enlightenment" and "teachings stemming from that enlightenment" of Eric Pepin, it is declared that he has nothing to do with it.
"On the other hand, I claim no enlightenment, just a work in progress, working with others, and I am conflated with QFG, QFS and sott to the extent that I am to be considered nothing short of some machaivellian mastermind. I'm not sure when I am supposed to have the time to do all the things it is claimed I do, especially since my health has been severely compromised for years now and I have to guard my energy carefully to be able to do my research and write, let alone manage my living space.
"But, according to these goons, I control everything and it is all "the instrumentality" of yours truly!
"That's some claim to make about me, now isn't it? I think it is defamatory.
"Next item that catches my eye: I am accused of "dipping into the till," so to say, while the fact is ignored that the total QFG income, with which we fund dozens of projects around the year, is about what my husband made alone when working for the DOD sub-contractor in FL. Divided up among the projects and persons who are supported by this income, it's pretty obvious that we actually would qualify to be living below poverty level. Also ignored is the fact that I have licensed the profits from the sales of all my books to the benefit of QFG and its projects and, most of the time, book sales exceed donations so it could be said that, single handedly, I am the main support of QFG and all its projects!"
Okay, Laura liked being the "machaivellian mastermind" until she got sued for it. And of course, if she pays all the bills, from her books, donations or whatever, then she is legally in charge. If she is "the main support of QFG and all its projects," then she is indeed the boss... Note also that Ark made big bux selling out to the DOD, and that the Cult thing has yet to equal that level of income...
After a few more thousand words of special pleading, how staff members are really "staff members" in name only, how QFS is really like an archeology club (LOL!)and so on, she turns to libeling the HBI lawyers:
"Actually, when one observes the "line of force" of the arguments of HBI, it actually starts to sound like a political witch hunt. I suspect that if the identities of some of our editors were revealed, it would create a scandal at their institutions, they would lose their jobs, their lives would be ruined.
"In this respect, the HBI/Pepin lawsuit has the distinct smell of a fishing trip. You see, it is clear that they seek to drive Discovery. My natural defense against being accused of being the Omnipotent Machiavellian Svengali Being would be to to show how all these other beings (Sott Editors, QFS members, Forum Moderators etc) are naturally capable and talented people doing what they want and like because that is their choice.
"That reveals the drive for "Limited discovery" which is just another way to say that what they want is to do a dragnet through all our QFS and forum members to discover if anybody might possibly be an "agent of QFG" under my "mind control." That would provide identities and details about those who read sott, work on sott, read and participate in the forum, that the Vinnie gang haven't been able to obtain to date, though they have really tried for the past 7 years to get that information for their gov. sponsors.
"So, basically, what we see is HBI/Pepin and this suit acting as a front for obtaining the very information that others have sought to obtain by other means for years.
"What does that suggest?
"The truth about QFG, QFS and sott is this: I don't control any of it: I'm just the one who takes all the flak because I refuse now, and will continue to refuse, to release any details whatsoever about anyone who reads or participates in SOTT or QFS activities. Period. If I have to go to jail for refusing to reveal that information, I'm ready. Ya'll come and get me."
You really couldn't make this stuff up... Apparently, Laura has forgotten what said a few thousand words back: "It could be said that, single handedly, I am the main support of QFG and all its projects!" Okay, so square that with "I don't control any of it."
And of course, casually throw in my name and the latest hallucination of my "mission."
She returns to this point a few thousand words further down:
"Next item, very often, on this forum, references to COINTELPRO are hyperbolic; other times, they are not. We constantly refer to cointelpro as a MODEL even if, in some cases, it may actually be a gov psy-op. Obviously, no one can really tell the difference so the best policy is to just consider if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, it's a duck. We also know that many cointelpro "agents" are unconscious of being "agents." That has been discussed in congressional hearings on MKULTRA mind control experiments conducted by agents of the CIA. On the sott forum, in many instances, "cointelpro" is exactly as hyperbolic as "horse hockey" and "fishy" and "bull feathers" etc. In other instances, which are usually made explicit, it CAN mean a real gov program. But in those cases, it would be so noted at least in context.
"Regarding the cointelpro thing (which really bugs them for some reason!) they come back to the truth or falseness of the issues. "A statement is capable of such proof where it rests on a "core of objective evidence."
"Is, or is not HBI involved in a government conspiracy to disrupt political dissidents? Well, you know what they say: if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck...
"The very fact that this suit has been filed with no possible gain to HBI other than their drive for discovery of the names of QFS, SOTT, and forum members is certainly suggestive...
"Is it conscious on the part of Pepin, HBI, or the HBI attorneys? Who knows? I don't. I just know the signs and I know that it is often NOT conscious and right now there's some duck behavior in evidence."
No evidence? None? Well just go with the "duck theory," which says that Laura just knows the signs and she says it's a duck! I wonder how that will hold up in court...
Here's her closing arguments:
"Certainly, a reasonable person would be highly offended by a false accusation that he or she is involved in the sexual abuse of children. It is certainly loathsome. But we notice that Pepin's attys are talking about HBI, which they are attempting to separate entirely from Pepin who, obviously, is loathsome in their eyes by the terms of their own arguments.
"As to COINTELPRO, we rest on the duck argument.
"Additionally one could certainly say that HBI's attys have made every effort to place me, QFG, QFS, sott, and others, in a false light.
"This gang is nothing but a bunch of snake oil salesmen trying to sell a sick pervert as some kind of guru. Pepin is THE PRODUCT of HBI, and he's a sick puppy. What does that say about HBI??
"If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck...."
The Duck Defense... What a hoot... Can't wait to see how this one turns out...
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| Anonymous Coward
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7/9/2008 7:49 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
In a move that must have their lawyers pulling out their hair, Laura has addressed, point for point, the "Opposition to Motion to Dismiss." First she admits that the libel took place, but tries to argue that it couldn't have had any effect on HBI's business because so few people read it.
LOL. She is SUCH a sleazy lying obfuscating scumbag.
She sent her attack leprechaun Joe Quinn the task of writing a defamatory press release about Pepin that went all over the world in nanoseconds.
It was picked up by most of the new age sites and sevral mainstream ones - and even the BBC! - and pecause of their squealing it is still being picked up and HBI/pepin are still losing money - the new age sites carrying this are frequented by just the sort of folks that would buy the HBI products.
HBI and Pepin's name are now mud, thanks to this scumbag and her husband.
HBI and Pepin have indeed suffered untold harm, and Laura WILL pay the consquences. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/9/2008 8:44 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Pepin is THE PRODUCT of HBI, and he's a sick puppy.
Ummmm, Pepin's a 'sick puppy' ... 'doing all the young boys...'
Are you allowed to get away with this on the internet?
Is Laura deranged?
Does she not know that she is libeling and defaming this man, repeatedly, and just before trial?
She needs a short sharp shock methinks - jail time in Sing Sing might work. She could edit the Sing Sing Singer. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/9/2008 8:19 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
[link to www.sott.net]
Poisoning The Welll on Internet Freedom of Speech wrote:
In the Chinese classic The Thirty-Six Stratagems, the eighth strategy reads, "Openly repair the gallery roads, but sneak through the passage of Chencang." That is to say, set a decoy by appearing to attack along an obvious path while sneaking up on the enemy from a less obvious route. While many pay close attention to the obvious and steady decline of American democracy into corporate fascism, more subtle and devious tactics go virtually unnoticed.
A little-known, yet terrifying, court case threatens to pave the way to a strangling of the freedom of dissent we still have. It has the potential to set a dangerous precedent for Internet free speech, without a single high-profile law being passed in Congress and without a single word of debate, either congressional or in public.
The Case
Our story begins, appropriately enough, with an up-and-coming self-styled New Age "guru" named Laura Knight-Jadczyk. Based on what can be gleaned from his websites and self-promotion, she would seem to be little more than a snake-oil salesman preying on gullible people by selling enlightenment through a proprietary form of entrainment by way of channelling space aliens since the late 1990s, the space aliens whom Laura Knight-Jadczyk now calls herself in the future. She even has a pill marketed via Red Pill Press - Wankmehard6-S that, so she claims, enhances brain function and heightens paranormal experience. Her promotional material states that her fee-based "Gravity Wave Balance" courses will impart secret, mystical knowledge, profound spiritual experience and modern tools for advanced awareness. In other words, Laura Knight-Jadczyk seems to be nothing more than a hustler making a easy buck on pseudo-spirituality.
It is a matter of public record, reported in several news articles (The Oregonian) that Laura Knight-Jadczyk accused Pepin of criminal sexual misconduct. Laura Knight-Jadczyk libeled and defamed Mr Pepin. The story of the New Age guru earning the trust of followers, then using that trust to manipulate those followers into feeding an insatiable lust is hardly new. Laura Knight-Jadczyk even admitted to voracious metaphysical appetites in testimony during her hearing, saying that she has had sexual relations with most of her 400 Cassiopaean space aliens. Whether priest, minister, politician, Boy Scout troop leader, teacher, counselor, or psychologist, the authoritarian dynamic of exploitation is unnervingly and disturbingly familiar
It is also a matter of public record that Laura Knight-Jadczyk was found "not guilty" of attempted MURDER, which, it should be noted, does not mean that the alleged attempted MURDER did not occur. It simply means that the evidence did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the victim was murdered at the time the events occurred. There was no doubt that they occurred because there was a witness testimony from the guy who had his head repeatedly bashed in by Laura Knight-Jadczyk. Unfortunately, a mysterioeus lawyer turned up and represented Laura Knight-Jadczyk pro bono and got her off scot free. After the acquittal, Laura Knight-Jadczyk tried to have the record expunged, but soon after her ego took over and she has been re-writing the story ever since to show that she was in fact the victim, not the old coot she tried to kill with a blunt instrument. Laura Knight-Jadczyk appears to know well how to use the legal system to cover his tracks. Sound familiar? It should. It happens all the time in powerful and wealthy circles, and Laura Knight-Jadczyk has shown that she can use the tricks like a pro.
Now, with his criminal record expunged - never mind that it was clear that the incidents occurred - Laura Knight-Jadczyk has issued worldwide press releases via her little brainwashed leprechaun, Joe Quinn, against a mainstream media company based in Oregon, for a discussion of her case in the public forum associated with that site's enemies. That fact - that such cases are even being heard by a court - is a testimony that the law works to protect those so defamed and libeled willy nilly by the likes of proven con-woman Laura Knight-Jadczyk. A case like this, if it makes it to the Supreme Court, could become a landmark case. A Supreme Court ruling in such a case could, potentially, put an end to free and open discussion on the Internet. And Laura Knight-Jadczyk is poisoning the well like a demon to ensure that JUST THIS happens.
The name of the suit is HIGHER BALANCE, LLC, an Oregon Limited Liability Company, dba HIGHER BALANCE INSTITUTE, Plaintiff The Higher Balance Institute v. QUANTUM FUTURE GROUP, INC, a California corporation, and LAURA KNIGHT- JADCZYK, Defendants. It was filed over comments made on the public forum that is part of Signs of the Times, an alternative news aggregation and commentary website. A forum thread entitled, "Eric Pepin - Higher Balance Institute -- Discussion" was begun by an anonymous poster regarding the validity of the claims made by Pepin.
[No in fact it wasn't anonymous at all - the name is their for all to see at the link at the top of this page...]
Eventually, following a generally unremarkable [libelous] series of posts, the fact that Laura Knight-Jadczyk had been accused of attempted murder, and the contents of articles that covered the details of the accusation and subsequent trial, were posted on the thread. After reviewing this information, Laura Knight-Jadczyk, an administrator of the site, made the statement, "It's really starting to look like this Eric Pepin and his Higher Balance Institute may be merely COINTELPRO and a front for pedophilia."
The suit alleges that this comment made by Knight-Jadczyk and others in the user discussion forum of the Signs of the Times news site concerning Pepin has caused his Higher Balance Institute to lose a pretty sizable chunk of change in snake-oil sales and loss of reputation. In fact, it claims over $1 million in economic damages. Apparently there is quite a bit of money to be made in his line of work. Adding the special and general damages, the total sought is nearly $4.5 million. All of this because a few people dared discuss articles about Pepin that had been published in publicly available media sources.
[No - all because they refused to cease and desist their libles, and all because Laura Knight-Jadczyk ramped thing s up via turbo-charged twin afterburners by issuing via the leprachaun wildly libelous press releases to the worldwide media...thus attemting to destroy Pepin and HBI...]
The statement would seem actionable when one considers that it was based directly on information provided in articles printed in Pepin's home state of Oregon following his trial, and when one considers the fact that what was said may actually be accurate. 9Lets have a witch hunt, shall we?] True, Laura Knight-Jadczyk was found "not guilty" on all counts. According to Laura Knight-Jadczyk, that is proof that the acts in question were never committed never mind the unequivocal statements of the prosecutor and judge, quoted in the news reports, that they did occur. Or at least, she seems to believe, that verdict should serve as a de facto gag order keeping anyone from ever mentioning the subject of attempted murder in public again. But that is not what "not guilty" means in a court of law.
According to a May 23, 2007 article in The Oregonian, "A Washington County Circuit judge called the leader of a metaphysical Internet sales company Laura Knight-Jadczyk manipulative and controlling and her testimony unbelievable, even as he acquitted her today of charges that he tried to kill an old coot with a hard on for her - the old coot wanted sex with an overage girl." It goes on to quote Judge Steven L. Price as saying it was "probable that the conduct alleged in all counts occurred," but he wasn't convinced beyond a reasonable doubt.
This case was brought before Judge Price after a grand jury agreed that the case had merit. Laura Knight-Jadczyk attorneys were clever, though. They realized that in cases of statutory attempted murder, proof beyond a reasonable doubt is very hard to come by. It is usually a case of he said/she said or, in the case of Laura Knight-Jadczyk, she said/he said. A jury may feel disposed to find the accused guilty in such a case, but a judge would not without very substantial evidence of a specific kind. This is, incidentally, a legal maneuver sometimes used by those who would later gain notoriety as so-called "serial killers." For example, Gary Heidnik who, charged with kidnapping, rape, false imprisonment, unlawful restraint, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, interfering with the custody of a committed person and reckless endangerment, waived his right to a jury. Because the judge determined the witness too "retarded" to testify, Heidnik got off with only a couple of misdemeanors.
A judge would require what amounts to a smoking gun. The plaintiff nearly had one with the evidence of the video tape of a sex orgy at the chateau dungeons presented as spiritual practice was produced. Why a self-proclaimed guru like Laura Knight-Jadczyk would be videotaping an allegedly "spiritual" orgy I leave to the reader's imagination. Unfortunately, as mentioned, the video tape did not have any sort of date stamp, so there was no "smoking-gun" proof that it was taken when the girl was still 17 years old, merely evidence that Laura Knight-Jadczyk is a kinky spiritual predator. So, Laura Knight-Jadczyk waived his right to trial by jury, presented himself to a judge - about whom we know nothing - and found himself a free man.
To the casual observer, this case could easily look like an easy one to ignore, just like with most other suits that eventually lead to landmark decisions. After all, a cursory Internet search will reveal that Laura Knight-Jadczyk is involved in some things that might sound strange herself, namely the "Cassiopaean Experiment", in which she claims to communicate with a group of beings that call themselves the Cassiopaeans. That same search will also turn up accusations that Ms. Knight-Jadczyk is running a cult and is some sort of New Age guru, herself, which is true.
A recent article in Willamette Week Online titled A New-Age Smackdown and Free Speech for Bloggers even described sott.net as a New Age alternative news website. Personally, I do see it, though I would definitely accent the alternative part. The folks at SOTT cover more political, psychological and scientific territory than than a room full of doctoral candidates. In the 80's I was tangentially involved in the New Age movement, meaning that I found it interesting, not that I ever contributed anything to it. Having read through sott.net, this has everything to do with New Age thought. I think many of the New Agers I've known would find the site fairly horrifying as it takes a decidedly Bushco anti-semitic position that things are going well in the world, are only getting better, and advocates that taling to space aliens around a teapot and thinking "nice" thoughts will turn things around.
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| Anonymous Coward
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7/10/2008 6:55 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
check out the comments to and fro
[link to www.opednews.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452321
7/10/2008 9:48 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459082
That was fun reading those comments. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/11/2008 6:10 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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coukda done better but not easy on a blackberry, there s/w system is archaic, leaves far too many spaces and gaps and also cuts off reams of stuff at whim
wish i could do that to laura |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 466544
7/11/2008 5:08 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
"coukda done better but not easy on a blackberry, there s/w system is archaic, leaves far too many spaces and gaps and also cuts off reams of stuff at whim
wish i could do that to laura.."
yo...me too!
...LMAO..reams of (sh) it...
she has duped many who have not looked further, this lying, con artist continues to defame Mr. Pepin and HBI and dupe the blind minions. Those comments attest...rock on Steve Quayle. |
| Vincent Bridges
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7/13/2008 6:32 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459082
Well, they've started censoring posts on opednews.com... Read it while you can...
VB |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 467714
7/13/2008 11:42 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
VB Quoting: Vincent Bridges 467591
squeal binges grouper barq peppernuts turtle |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 466544
7/14/2008 4:30 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
( before these get censored over on OpEdnews...note all the red flags..these are not "nasty attacks" just uncomfortable truth and the Koolaid Kult knows this...and yeah it's so obvious who wrote the article..JoeQwinn aka: Mr. Blint.
Wandering Minstrel
S SegurdsonWandering Minstrel
Mr. Blint and Bonnee are SOTT... why argue?
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This has to be obvious to other people too. Mr. Blint just created his account to write this article. He is "concerned citizen" and this is topic he chooses?
He plays like he is neutral at the start of the article, saying he thinks SOTT is a cult, but how quickly he comes around ending up heaping praises on the "channeling" and the "internationally known physicist" and that the "experiment" is one of the "most interesting he's ever laid eyes on".
It's like even in disguise these people can't help kissing their own behinds hoping people are too stupid to see. All you ever see from these people is manipulation and lies. If you want to write an article blowing smoke up your own asses, then do it. Don't complain about how the media is all spin, and the government lies, then turn around and be just like them!
They try so hard to make this case seem larger than it is, like they are fighters for Internet freedom. Before the Internet you could not say or put things in print that harmed others and was not true. After Internet should be the same. If you say something that you lie about, and it harms the person you saying about, sorry time to pay. So it is in the "real world", so it should be on the Internet.
No other bloggers out there are going to effected by some "precedent". The precedent was set long ago called "libel and defamation". Laura and SOTT aren't being sued by comments some "forum readers" posted. They are being sued for things they said and they wrote themselves. If people going to write something be accountable for it. Plain and simple.
This is just another effort by them to make it seem like world is on their side and they are some great, legitimate organization and not some cult trying to do everything they can to control what people think. They do it on their site, they are doing it here by writing things themselves trying to manipulate and control like any cult does and things they claim to fight against. Hypocrites.
Not only do they lie to all of us and people who give money to their "legal defense" they lie to the courts by submitting altered evidence. Then they were caught and the judge knows about it now:
"Of note, in a shameful attempt to deceive the Court, defendant Knight-Jadczyk submits to the court the modified post and represents to the court that it is the original."
Now, they trying to say all these other lies about why they altered the evidence. First, they didn't alter it, now they say they did alter it but it was a long time ago, then Laura said it wasn't altered the comments were in other threads. Is it possible for Laura or SOTT to say something that isn't a lie?
What does that say about the "news" that comes from them? If you want to support a cult that lies and manipulates to you and support their house in France, go ahead free life, but at least know what is true and do it with your eyes open.
Check when Bonnee sign up to, then check administrators at SOTT. She is one, so is "Mr. Blint". Read Quinn's writing style in his other press release, then read this. Same guy.
Give people more credit for seeing through the BS. So why argue with people like they are real people when they are really SOTT. No point except now you know who you are really talking to.
by S Segurdson (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Friday, July 11, 2008 at 12:27:45 PM
Traveler
Mr. XTraveler
IT sure IS!!!!
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"It's not about freedom of speech or the 1st amendment."
lol, that one made me laugh. The word pathetic comes to mind. You know this reminds of when I was younger. Remember the kids that farted always accused immediately everybody else. And the more hot air the kid blew the louder his accusations “full of sound and fury; signifying nothing.” After reading this article and following all the info, your agenda Mr. bridges is quite clear. I just want to thank Mr. Blint for a very informative and accurate analysis of the situation. Moreover, I like to thank Mr. quayle and Mr. bridges, for proving to those of us who have been following along, this IS indeed about Freedom of speech. In addition, they have shown all of us how imperative it is to support Mrs. Laura Knight-Jadczyk on her cause in any way that we can. Because beings like Mr. quayle and Mr. bridges will go to such lengths to defame, marginalize, and slander the truth and accuse others of the very things THEY are Doing.
PS S Segurdson wow, accusing others of the very thing you do huh.
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw rocks.
Looks like to me, more and more that there sure is a cult out there and Mr. bridges is the leader. Just look at the approach of such comments by briges and quale and now S Segurdson. They just cannot handle the truth. They are incapable of any thought, If you start making sense and don’t agree with them they immediately try to marginalize and accuse you of all the vile things that they do themselves. Wow, you guys are so naked it’s not even funny.
by Mr. X (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Friday, July 11, 2008 at 1:43:06 PM
Wandering Minstrel
S SegurdsonWandering Minstrel
I guess it is not possible for Laura Knight to not lie...
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It would be funny if not so sad but thanks for proving the point MRS. X.
Interesting way to make point that you people don't lie and manipulate by making post with fake name.
Also funny that the very people you trying to shoot are using their real names. What does that say about their integrity and what they have to say versus you? Could be they don't need to lie and manipulate because what they say is true and willing to stand up for it.
Don't try to say Joe Quinn posted real name either. He only did that so people would think he did not write the article. Kind of obvious way of saying how could I write the article and post in comments?!! Amazing!!
Amazing you would bother and expect people to buy it. Maybe you want to try again? You did not even argue lying to the court or why you write an article using fake name. You cannot ban people here so the tough questions won't go away. Want to answer them?
by S Segurdson (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Friday, July 11, 2008 at 3:02:27 PM
Vincent Bridges is the co-author of A Monument to the End of Time: Alchemy, Fulcanelli and the Great Cross (by Jay Weidner and Vincent Bridges, Aethyrea Books, 1999, 2000) as well as co-author of Mysteries of the Great Cross at Hendaye: Alchemy and the End of Time, Destiny Books, 2003, and Interlude with Sally Hemings: Diary of a Spiritual Healing by R.J. Gabriel, with Vincent Bridges.
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Vincent BridgesVincent Bridges is the co-author of A Monument to the End of Time: Alchemy, Fulcanelli and the Great Cross (by Jay Weidner and Vincent Bridges, Aethyrea Books, 1999, 2000) as well as co-author of Mysteries of the Great Cross at Hendaye: Alchemy and the End of Time, Destiny Books, 2003, and Interlude with Sally Hemings: Diary of a Spiritual Healing by R.J. Gabriel, with Vincent Bridges.
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To all the duped minions...
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To Mr. X - Do you know what an "ad homenim attack" is? Or did you learn that from Mrs. Laura Knight Martin Jadcyzk?
You neglected to mention the two points I raised. Would it be libel if we in fact did exactly as LKJ did and infered a continuing criminal enterprise from her attempted murder acquittal?
And how about the COINTELPRO accussation? Here's how she justifies it:
"Regarding the cointelpro thing (which really bugs them for some reason!) they come back to the truth or falseness of the issues. "A statement is capable of such proof where it rests on a "core of objective evidence."
"Is, or is not HBI involved in a government conspiracy to disrupt political dissidents? Well, you know what they say: if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck...
"The very fact that this suit has been filed with no possible gain to HBI other than their drive for discovery of the names of QFS, SOTT, and forum members is certainly suggestive...
"Is it conscious on the part of Pepin, HBI, or the HBI attorneys? Who knows? I don't. I just know the signs and I know that it is often NOT conscious and right now there's some duck behavior in evidence."
(...)
"As to COINTELPRO, we rest on the duck argument.
"This gang is nothing but a bunch of snake oil salesmen trying to sell a sick pervert as some kind of guru. Pepin is THE PRODUCT of HBI, and he's a sick puppy. What does that say about HBI??
"If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck...."
The duck defense, priceless...
To Mr. Jasp:
You said: "...the point is that if this lawsuit by this perv Pepin succeeds - all and everyone could (will?) be legally liable for discussing things that are covered in the news???"
Just how do you figure that? This is a very simple and direct libel action. It has nothing to do with discussing things covered in the news. This is just hype from LKJ and the cult.
To Joe Quinn:
"He has already been officially exposed as a sexual pervert who preys on his adepts, what more needs to be said?"
So why did your "Fearless Leader" find it necessary to libel him, and continue to do so?
"It is obvious that the guy is taking the case against Sott.net in an attempt to silence free speech and the right to identify sickos like him in our society. As the author of the article states, if Pepin wins the case then a dangerous predecent that threatens internet free specch will have been established."
Okay, you guys say this a lot, but how, exactly, is that going to happen from a simple and straight forward libel case? LKJ could have discussed the article on Mr. Pepin, and what she thought it revealed about his character, without indulging in libel and defamation. But she didn't. She chose to make it as bad as she could...
To Bonnee:
You said: "And that includes you, Mr. Quayle. Do you realize that everything you have posted here could be actionable if Mr. Pepin wins his suit? That all the links you have provided to defamatory discussions about this woman would be actionable?"
Only if it isn't true. The same laws concerning libel apply to everybody...
To Mr. Blint:
Come on, really? LKJ wonders who you are, is that just more smoke screen? It is very obvious that you are indeed a cult member just echoing the party line.
So, with your inside information, tells please exactly how this simple libel suit has any effect on the internet or other discussion forums? You make the sweeping statement:
"In Pepin's world, successfully covering up the evidence of misdeeds means silencing any further inquiry or discussion for fear of prosecution."
Okay, except that LKJ and crew have presented no evidence of any cover-up, and certainly no evidence, beyond LKJ's knowing it in her gut, that her lies and libels have any basis in fact.
"If Pepin succeeds in his suit, what happens to those who dare question the orthodox view of the events of 9/11, those who object to torture being done in their name, those who investigate the harm done by tasers, those who investigate and comment on the treasonous actions of Bush and Cheney in outing Valerie Plame? What happens to those of us who investigate current events and publish stories that are critical of the officially sanctioned view of events?"
Again, how would this happen exactly? What is the connection between senseless libel and serious discussion? You appear not to know...
Yes, Mr "Blint," LKJ and the cult supports you financially, locked away there in the cult's French Chateau, but even then, we might expect a modicum of intelligence instead of more of the party line:
"However, it seems that Knight-Jadczyk recognized this a matter of principle, a fight for the rights of others. Indeed, it is. That is the point we must recognize about this suit. It can really mean nothing to Pepin and his business. Filing the suit will bring him no financial remuneration and only serves to bring more attention to the statements made. Clearly, there is an ulterior motive, an agenda, if you will..."
VB
by Vincent Bridges (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments) on Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 2:24:14 AM
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Vincent BridgesVincent Bridges is the co-author of A Monument to the End of Time: Alchemy, Fulcanelli and the Great Cross (by Jay Weidner and Vincent Bridges, Aethyrea Books, 1999, 2000) as well as co-author of Mysteries of the Great Cross at Hendaye: Alchemy and the End of Time, Destiny Books, 2003, and Interlude with Sally Hemings: Diary of a Spiritual Healing by R.J. Gabriel, with Vincent Bridges.
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See dem flags a-flyin'...
This comment has been flagged and is awaiting review by the editors -
Reason: Ad hominem
S Segurdson said: "You cannot ban people here so the tough questions won't go away."
Technically correct; here they can just be flagged and left for the editors to decide...
Just to make everything even, I flagged Mr. X's comments, which I had said were ad hominim attacks in a comment that someone has flagged as an ad hominim attack, as being, as I said, an ad hominim attack...
Mr. Blint's article, while smoothly written, is hardly objective. Here's how he describes Mr Pepin: "...an up-and-coming self-styled New Age "guru" named Eric Pepin. Based on what can be gleaned from his websites and self-promotion, he would seem to be little more than a snake-oil salesman preying on gullible people by selling enlightenment through a proprietary form of meditation and a pill called Magneurol6-S that, so he claims, enhances brain function and heightens paranormal experience. ...In other words, he seems to be nothing more than a hustler making a easy buck on pseudo-spirituality." And then goes to echo the Cassiopaeans' party line by misstating the nature of the case as a suit against "an alternative media website for a discussion of his case in the public forum associated with that site."
It is not. It is case for libel and defamation, concerning several comments made and supported by Laura Knight Jadczyk. Discussion is fine, libel is not...
Laura changed the heading of the thread from: "Eric Pepin - Higher Balance Institute -- Discussion" to "Eric Pepin - Higher Balance Institute -- Front for Pedophilia?" And added her own comment: "It's really starting to look like this Eric Pepin and his Higher Balance Institute is merely COINTELPRO and a front for pedophilia." When called on it by the HBI folks, she changed it to "may be" and took down the "Front for Pedophilia?" heading. This, she thought, was being very accomodating...
So, the case is not about free speech or the act of discussing someone, it is about libel and defamation. Odd that someone trying to be objective would miss seeing that...
So after several paragraphs of border-line defamation of Mr Pepin, Mr. Blint gets to Laura:
"After all, a cursory Internet search will reveal that Laura Knight-Jadczyk is involved in some things that might sound strange herself, namely the "Cassiopaean Experiment", in which she claims to communicate with a group of beings that call themselves the Cassiopaeans. That same search will also turn up accusations that Ms. Knight-Jadczyk is running a cult and is some sort of New Age guru, herself!"
Okay, some degree of objectivity raising its head above the general tone of bias. However, it doesn't last long...
The very next paragraph is full of praise and defense for the SOTT team. By the next page, Mr Blint is calling them "one of the most interesting and far-reaching research projects I've personally ever laid eyes on, and they also seem to be offering the results of this research available for free to whomever will take the time to visit their sites and do the reading."
So much for objectivity... One side is "a snake oil salesman preying on gullible people" and the other is suddenly equal to Barbara Honegger in truth telling and standing up to the authorities. "So, here we have two women, both with interests in unusual phenomena who are primarily interested in exposing governmental lies and misfeasance, and very much involved in 9-11 research. One has leaked vital information from within the Beltway, the other is part of fascinating and potentially important research who was intimately involved with reviving the 9-11 Truth Movement. And both of these women have been/are being attacked."
And what of Mr Pepin:
"There is really no more to say about Pepin. He appears to be the sort of hustler that was all too common during the height of the New Age movement. There is nothing I could find on the Internet about him beyond his own self promotion and the articles, still online, that were discussed on the sott.net forum."
Notice how Mr Blint neglects to mention the astonishing amount of information about Laura's own snake oil sales, fake non-profits and illegal raffles. Quite amazing...
The third page starts: "The difference in this particular case is the fact that a lawsuit against writings unrelated to truth activism has been filed against a truth activist that could well lead to a crackdown on all speculation and the free exchange of information that is not officially endorsed, across the Internet."
Now, would you mind explaining just how that could possibly be true? An unrelated libel action, as you say, has no connection to protected political discourse. Yet, you state categorically: "What is at stake could well be the ability of any of us to speak truth in public at all, ever."
Hyperbole? The Cassiopaean party line? Simple intellectual blindness? What is it that blinkers you here, Mr Blint?
It is about libel and defamation, not free speech... I think anyone with a little common sense and knowledge of the law might be able to see through your ardent protestations of an imminent danger to Free Speech, but that doesn't stop you from repeating it over and over again.
Pure bias, and a blatant attempt by the cult and its leaders to stir up sympathy from the free speech supporters and the 9/11 truth community. Talk about snake oil...
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| StormBear
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7/15/2008 5:57 PM
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Laura
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Re: Eric Pepin - Higher Balance Institute - Discussion
The plot thickens; starting to look like a witch hunt for political dissidents.
[link to quantumfuturegroup.org]
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In short, more duck behavior...
VB: Now this is interesting reading... The duck defense strikes again, and nobody is buying it. HBI's lawyers have seized upon her blatant stupidity and are using it against her. Some witch hunt for political dissidents, and I'm sure the judge will just love being accused of being COINTELPRO.
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| StormBear
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7/18/2008 12:09 AM
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7/18/2008 12:12 AM
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My favorite part of the HBI reply - page 4
"Yet defendants contend that HBI must rely on the self-serving and potentially perjured declarations of defendant Knight Jadczyk without any inquiry into the actual evidence that defendants have openly acknowledged is in their possession."
It Came From Cassiopiea, only at
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| StormBear
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7/18/2008 12:17 AM
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The other file is wonderful. It is from HBI and is pages and pages long because most of it is printed pages from the SOTT forum where Laura goes on and on and on. Of course th |
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