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| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 11750
7/17/2005 8:59 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
do you two really think that "they" give a flying fuck what YOU think...
are they affected, in the LEAST by what is being discussed here? NOT´
V: Actually, we have been causing ripples in C-world. They are very afraid of this forumīs appeal to those that would prey upon, all these folks who want to believe in higher intelligence from beyond... Once they have been outed here, it is much harder to get those dupes in the door.
this is just a bunch of BACKBITTING and EGO tripping on both your parts...and changes nothing...if you really had something to say and wanted to actually see a change for the better in these people...you would address THEM
V: I did earlier today, left them some questions on their comments board over at their whatīs new page. They just banned me from SOTT all together rather than address them. And of course, the duped minions canīt be allowed to see it, as they might start thinking unauthorized thoughts...
this has got to be one of the dumbest threads ever posted on glp...and hasn´t acomplished one thing
V: Indeed, it has accomplished quite alot. This is the forefront of whacko-land, the savanna if you will on which their prey dwells. Warning signs here are deadly to their intent...
you both would be the last person I would want for friends...knowing you would post your personal problems for the world to see if we ever should disagree
V: So, you would like help your friends steal a quarter million bux? Even if they kept it all for a Chateau in France... If so, then I guess you would make a better dupe than friend...
VB |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 11750
7/17/2005 9:23 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Proof? There are two clear cut examples of proof here. The first is what I mentioned above;
Laura confessed, and tried to blame it on the folks left behind in Florida just days before the house was sold... Talk about lying in a pathological way...
Ok, grok this... In August 2003, as the very first questions about the legality of the Raffle and the flight to France were being raised, Laura and Ark were selling the house! And instead of explaining any of it, blames the fact that they didnīt net more money on the folks they left behind... If there had been any reasonable explanation, donīt you think that would have been the point to mention it? This to me, is the most telling point of all...
The second point of proof concerns the C-worldīs cult status. One of the clearest indicators of their cultish-ness is the fact that outsiders have no idea what the philosophy and actual workings of the group are. You have to read closely and critically, something seriously down-played in the cult, in order to even catch a whiff of it. But, those who have been inside the cult see it very clearly. This is a key marker of mind-control and cultish-ness. Looks harmless, even insightful, until of course you are involved in the cultīs criminal practices, such as helping them steal a quarter million bux...
How two reasonably sane individuals, such as John Humphrys and Sam Montgomery could be induced to witness a legal proof of outright theft is incomprehensible without the mind-control element. I wonder how they explained any of it, but somehow these guys signed, even though I personally know that Johnno had read all about the scam before he went to France...
VB |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 5290
7/17/2005 9:35 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
How two reasonably sane individuals, such as John Humphrys and Sam Montgomery could be induced to witness a legal proof of outright theft is incomprehensible without the mind-control element. I wonder how they explained any of it, but somehow these guys signed, even though I personally know that Johnno had read all about the scam before he went to France...
VB
I knew Johnno and Joe Quinn pretty well, phone calls and private emails exchanged etc, why I was even supposed to share a room with Joe at the 1st FL conference,
A huge sign of a Cult is how excommunicated members are treated.
In Laura´s case it is like a pariah - as soon as Ark brought down the hammer all contact with Johnno and Joe ceased - I was ´unclean´... an Organic Portal (no soul)... and as you can see from the session I posted a page or two ago Laura was ramping up with the Cass list all sorts of questions and answers which she no doubt faked as having come from the ´Cs´...
Does anyone really thing allegedly STO entities like the Cs would have any truck with the constant STS feeding frenzy within the Cass Cult?
I don´t think so. Nope, as Anab says on his site - clear evidence of malevolent STS Jinn and Cult Mind Kontrol...
As evidenced by Johnno and Joe completely obeying Laura and Ark...
As evidenced by Johnno and Sam witnessing the signing of the house transfer title to complete strangers... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10343
7/17/2005 9:38 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
so file charges...what are you waiting for...permission from me?
I wasnīt born yesterday...
talk is cheap...and you can SAY anything you want...but
ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS
and so far all this amounts to is finger clicking strokes on a keyboard.
unless maybe you are looking for a class-action suit...ha ha |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 5290
7/17/2005 9:44 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I can´t believe brain of alabama here 7278 aka science only keeps coming back to make a fool of himself... |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 11750
7/17/2005 9:54 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
As early as December 2001 I tried to stop all this, but the C-cult took that for weakness. In May of 2002, I called a donīt feed the demon stand-down, and what happened, they upped the ante again with death threats, real and imagined. When they left for France in 2003, I decided to let the whole thing just take its own course without me. But, when they put their website back up, there was the same old lie filled expose... So, when LKJ tried to get international exposure for her Mossad theories, I put out the Truth about Cassiopaea on Jeff Renseīs site. That caused the explosion over the summer of 2003, but that winter I completely let it go. The website went down for awhile, and not of much anything happened through 2004, except for more of their sniping and lying... And then of course the Pentagon Strike video happened and suddenly they were everywhere... The crap about me along with it. They slandered my business and my integrity with their piece on my tours, and this past spring, they changed the names to our real ones, and I began to get pissed again. I didnīt do anything, however. A friend bought the cassiopaeacult web domain, and before I knew it the old stuff was back up from cassiopaea.net. Colleen Johnston of MAAR got in touch, as did several folks in France... And then I received an email about this thread, and here I am...
I donīt want revenge, I want justice, period...
If you want to believe in the sanctity of these crooks, fine. I donīt have a philosophy, a creed or a cult to peddle, so I donīt care... But please, go into it being aware that they are crooks...
VB |
| Angel
User ID: 12411
7/17/2005 10:28 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
[link to www.greatdreams.com]
CHARACTERISTICS OF CULT LEADERS:
intense self-absorption
profound lack of empathy for others;
a disrespect for social norms and accepted rules of behavior;
a tendency to project oneīs own faults on other people;
a lack of interest in anyone elseīs feelings or beliefs;
a high degree of dishonesty and manipulation in interpersonal dealings;
a tendency to see others strictly in terms of oneīs own needs.
OTHER CHARACTERISTICS WHICH MIGHT COME INTO PLAY
the tendency to hierarchy;
the drive for power and wealth;
hostility, hatred, prejudice;
superficial judgments of people and events;
a one-sided scale of values favoring the one in power;
interpreting kindness as weakness;
the tendency to use people and see others as inferior;
a sadistic-masochistic tendency;
incapability of being ultimately satisfied;
paranoia.
From: [link to www.trancenet.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10343
7/17/2005 11:08 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
talk is cheap
bla bla bla
there is two cents worth
and all this entire thread amounts to |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10118
7/17/2005 11:44 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10118
7/17/2005 11:46 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
ahem...does this really look like a fool?
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| Infinitea
User ID: 12411
7/17/2005 11:56 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
A: Thanks for the STA info...
I: Welcome, Anders...
A: I really did ask myself over and over if this is an STO thing to do. Vincent has too, as have OPie and others. But hey, how many other lives is she going to ruin down the line???
Frankly everything has been set in motion before this thread appeared and the train wreck is just a matter of time.
I: You may be right there.
Infinitea, u may want to check this out, if u haven´t already...
[link to amanesis.org]
I: Thanks, I did. What it says in the intro seems to
contradict what you said in another post:
"as Anab says on his site - clear evidence of malevolent STS jinns and Cult Mind Kontrol..."
From the intro:
I have tried to give an honest and open reading to the Cassiopaean material. I did not engage the material with the idea that Laura was part of a lunatic fringe, nor with the presumption that she, and the others who are participating with her in the Cassiopaean venture, were pathological in some way, nor with a bias that she was just plain foolish for even entertaining such ideas, nor, with the preconceived belief that she should be denigrated or castigated for her ideas and reflections.
I read the Cassiopaean-related material as writings arising from someone who is deeply interested in the nature of human potential. I also read her material from the perspective that it might serve as a useful case study with respect to the many problems and possibilities which swirl about trying to understand the nature of truth and reality in relation to human spiritual potential."
I do recall his mentioning Jinns, but it doesnīt seem to me that he is necessarily saying this colors all the material...? |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 11750
7/18/2005 12:05 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I do recall his mentioning Jinns, but it doesn´t seem to me that he is necessarily saying this colors all the material...?
V: Just keep reading...
VB |
| Pine Eel
User ID: 6647
7/18/2005 12:30 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
What is it with our need to focus on the messenger? It seems the message is lost when this takes place. It also seems that just from reading a synopsis of her channelings posted on pg.1, that she has one foot in the old world and one in the new. My opinion only, of course.
However the message she puts forth, whether a synthesis of all she has read or not, represents a common thread that many have tuned into that runs parallel to some others:
1)Planet X
2)Cosmic in breath and out breath representing a cyclic nature of the Universe
3)Density shift or physical matter made up of higher frequencies of consciousness or light
4)A process culminating in the decimation of the old, including physicality made up of lesser density light or consciousness
5)Enlightenment or better understanding by the human species once this process is far enough along
In a way, saying the Cassiopeans are Jinns is a bit like saying Pleidians or Arcturians are Jinns. For, while that might be true to the extent that their is a Most High God of free will which is also the Logos of this Universe, and everything else which is about (in some way) control or heirarchy could be considered as Jinns, should we discard the message?
Namely, that we here on Planet Earth are in the midst of a profound process of transformation (to something better). |
| OPie
User ID: 18929
7/18/2005 1:18 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18934
7/18/2005 1:56 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Thank you Angel, Infinitea, Pine Eel..
regarding Jinn...
[link to amanesis.org]
Anab has a menu, above, and it contains 22 boxes - if you REALLY want to get the lowdown on the Cs you need, I´m afraid, to read the lot - no shortcuts
happy reading :O))) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18929
7/18/2005 3:07 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18934
7/18/2005 3:16 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
V: I did earlier today, left them some questions on their comments board over at their what´s new page. They just banned me from SOTT all together rather than address them. And of course, the duped minions can´t be allowed to see it, as they might start thinking unauthorized thoughts...
OMG! LOL, not in a MILLION YEARS would laura or Ark give the URL of this GLP thread to any of their dupes - not on their site, not on their various yahoo private lists.
Might be fun if someone wanted to try and sneak this URL somewhere for the faithful to check out, but I can´t see Ark falling asleep at the wheel... LOL!!!
Talk about Orwellian Groupthink Control!
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| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 18969
7/18/2005 7:53 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
However the message she puts forth, whether a synthesis of all she has read or not, represents a common thread that many have tuned into that runs parallel to some others:
V: A common thread of disinformation perhaps...
1)Planet X
V: There is no Planet X, itīs just something that was spun off from Sitchenīs incredibly stupid misreading of ancient texts.
2)Cosmic in breath and out breath representing a cyclic nature of the Universe
V: Possibly true, depending on your definitions... This is a profound metaphysical metaphor, and can be seen as a variety of cosmological processes, most notably Dr. LaVioletteīs Seyfert galaxy/superwave theory..
3)Density shift or physical matter made up of higher frequencies of consciousness or light
V: This is essentially meaningless. Matter is trapped light, going slowly and in very small circles... I donīt think the nature of the atom is changing...
4)A process culminating in the decimation of the old, including physicality made up of lesser density light or consciousness
V: New flavor for the old dance, judgment for all, chiliaism in other words...
5)Enlightenment or better understanding by the human species once this process is far enough along
V: Why wait? God knows we need it now...
In a way, saying the Cassiopeans are Jinns is a bit like saying Pleidians or Arcturians are Jinns. For, while that might be true to the extent that their is a Most High God of free will which is also the Logos of this Universe, and everything else which is about (in some way) control or heirarchy could be considered as Jinns, should we discard the message?
V: Pine Eel, Iīve spent going on 40 years in the quest. Iīve looked at all the messages, and Iīve yet to find anything close to higher intelligence. The only one Iīve found of anything approaching an example of true higher intelligence is back in the 16th century, Dee and Kelley and Shakespeare. I was actually asked to leave an early BM/Pleiadian session because I was asking questions that were too hard for those rascally higher beings. I have learned a tremendous amount about how it really works, the lower astral, the Qlipoth, the Jinn, etc. and it ainīt pretty...
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, period. In the world of space brother mediumship, the more outrageous the claim, the less proof is offered. Laura pretends to be different, and she is actually the worse of the lot. Even BM is a sweetheart by comparison. But thatīs not my concern, usually. You can believe in the virgin birth and the resurrection for all I care, but in the case of Laura and cassiopaeans, they not only made it personal, but they crossed a legal and moral line that I, personally, find reprehensible beyond all describing. And, truthfully, because I helped her get to this point, I am morally responsible for setting the record straight...
Iīm still waiting for anyone to come up with any reasonable scenario in which the House raffle/flight to France could possibly be legal...
VB |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18973
7/18/2005 8:05 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10118
7/18/2005 10:23 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19013
7/18/2005 12:31 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19054
7/18/2005 2:49 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 9728
7/18/2005 4:29 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
For those who would care to address the C-cult directly with those embarrassing nine questions go here:
[link to www.cassiopaea.org]
VB |
| Infinitea
User ID: 19092
7/18/2005 4:34 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Pine Eel:
However the message she puts forth, whether a synthesis of all she has read or not, represents a common thread that many have tuned into that runs parallel to some others:
V: A common thread of disinformation perhaps...
I: No Vincent, itīs not ALL disinfo, though some of it is.
I think it challenges us to fill in the gaps for ourselves,
thatīs part of their purpose.
Pine Eel:
2)Cosmic in breath and out breath representing a cyclic nature of the Universe
V: Possibly true, depending on your definitions... This is a profound metaphysical metaphor, and can be seen as a variety of cosmological processes, most notably Dr. LaViolette´s Seyfert galaxy/superwave theory..
I: And Hindu cosmology. I was just writing about the Kali Yuga at another forum. Found a good article: [link to pages.zoom.co.uk]
P.E:
3)Density shift or physical matter made up of higher frequencies of consciousness or light
V: This is essentially meaningless. Matter is trapped light, going slowly and in very small circles... I don´t think the nature of the atom is changing...
I: So you perceive nothing beyond this level of reality?
P.E.:
4)A process culminating in the decimation of the old, including physicality made up of lesser density light or consciousness
V: New flavor for the old dance, judgment for all, chiliaism in other words...
I: You donīt believe we can collectively create something new and different ? We are stuck?
P.E.:
5)Enlightenment or better understanding by the human species once this process is far enough along
V: Why wait? God knows we need it now...
I: Yup, and to access that, we need to live in the Now, and more specifically, the Now that we prefer. The belief in linear time is part of what keeps us from enlightenment...
P.E.:
In a way, saying the Cassiopeans are Jinns is a bit like saying Pleidians or Arcturians are Jinns. For, while that might be true to the extent that their is a Most High God of free will which is also the Logos of this Universe, and everything else which is about (in some way) control or heirarchy could be considered as Jinns, should we discard the message?
V: Pine Eel, I´ve spent going on 40 years in the quest. I´ve looked at all the messages, and I´ve yet to find anything close to higher intelligence. The only one I´ve found of anything approaching an example of true higher intelligence is back in the 16th century, Dee and Kelley and Shakespeare. I was actually asked to leave an early BM/Pleiadian session because I was asking questions that were too hard for those rascally higher beings. I have learned a tremendous amount about how it really works, the lower astral, the Qlipoth, the Jinn, etc. and it ain´t pretty...
I: I agree that Shakespeareīs work exemplfies a higher intelligence, but who are Dee and Kelley? What were the hard questions
you were asking the Pleiadians? I canīt agree that Marciniakīs work is bunkum, the books have meant a lot to me. Some percentage of it may be disinfo, but not all. I think the same is true of the Cīs. "Take what you can use and leave the rest."
V: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, period. In the world of space brother mediumship, the more outrageous the claim, the less proof is offered. Laura pretends to be different, and she is actually the worse of the lot. Even BM is a sweetheart by comparison. But that´s not my concern, usually. You can believe in the virgin birth and the resurrection for all I care, but in the case of Laura and cassiopaeans, they not only made it personal, but they crossed a legal and moral line that I, personally, find reprehensible beyond all describing. And, truthfully, because I helped her get to this point, I am morally responsible for setting the record straight...
I: How do you see the Cīs as being responsible for the legal and moral mess Lauraīs created?
V: I´m still waiting for anyone to come up with any reasonable scenario in which the House raffle/flight to France could possibly be legal...
I: No, of course itīs not legal. Itīs clear that they broke the law, and this fits with what was posted here about cult leadersī disregard for social norms. |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 9728
7/18/2005 5:16 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Pine Eel:
However the message she puts forth, whether a synthesis of all she has read or not, represents a common thread that many have tuned into that runs parallel to some others:
V: A common thread of disinformation perhaps...
I: No Vincent, it´s not ALL disinfo, though some of it is.
I think it challenges us to fill in the gaps for ourselves,
that´s part of their purpose.
V: Well, I think the purpose of disinformation is to force incorrect conclusions... We need to be challenged to think for ourselves, not try to fill in the gaps in someone elseīs disinformation.
Pine Eel:
2)Cosmic in breath and out breath representing a cyclic nature of the Universe
V: Possibly true, depending on your definitions... This is a profound metaphysical metaphor, and can be seen as a variety of cosmological processes, most notably Dr. LaViolette´s Seyfert galaxy/superwave theory..
I: And Hindu cosmology. I was just writing about the Kali Yuga at another forum. Found a good article: [link to pages.zoom.co.uk]
V: Indeed, that is one of the profound metaphysical metaphors I was thinking of... But this idea is part of the perrennial tradition at the core of humanityīs collective unconscious, not the revealed idea of a space brither medium.
P.E:
3)Density shift or physical matter made up of higher frequencies of consciousness or light
V: This is essentially meaningless. Matter is trapped light, going slowly and in very small circles... I don´t think the nature of the atom is changing...
I: So you perceive nothing beyond this level of reality?
V: Of course. But thatīs not the point here, as PE is talking about matter, not consciousness...
P.E.:
4)A process culminating in the decimation of the old, including physicality made up of lesser density light or consciousness
V: New flavor for the old dance, judgment for all, chiliaism in other words...
I: You don´t believe we can collectively create something new and different ? We are stuck?
V: Sure, but we gotta be more creative than just recycling centuries old ideas in new flavors, which was my point...
P.E.:
5)Enlightenment or better understanding by the human species once this process is far enough along
V: Why wait? God knows we need it now...
I: Yup, and to access that, we need to live in the Now, and more specifically, the Now that we prefer. The belief in linear time is part of what keeps us from enlightenment...
V: Perhaps enlightenment is better found in the NOW that is real, rather than a preferable fanatsy?
P.E.:
In a way, saying the Cassiopeans are Jinns is a bit like saying Pleidians or Arcturians are Jinns. For, while that might be true to the extent that their is a Most High God of free will which is also the Logos of this Universe, and everything else which is about (in some way) control or heirarchy could be considered as Jinns, should we discard the message?
V: Pine Eel, I´ve spent going on 40 years in the quest. I´ve looked at all the messages, and I´ve yet to find anything close to higher intelligence. The only one I´ve found of anything approaching an example of true higher intelligence is back in the 16th century, Dee and Kelley and Shakespeare. I was actually asked to leave an early BM/Pleiadian session because I was asking questions that were too hard for those rascally higher beings. I have learned a tremendous amount about how it really works, the lower astral, the Qlipoth, the Jinn, etc. and it ain´t pretty...
I: I agree that Shakespeare´s work exemplfies a higher intelligence, but who are Dee and Kelley? What were the hard questions
you were asking the Pleiadians? I can´t agree that Marciniak´s work is bunkum, the books have meant a lot to me. Some percentage of it may be disinfo, but not all. I think the same is true of the C´s. "Take what you can use and leave the rest."
V: Dr, John Dee, court astrolger to QE I, and Edward Kelley did some fascinating "angelic" contact work in the 1580s, see [link to www.vincentbridges.com]
As for BM and the Pleiadians, well, I was there when the Pleds found her, and was a part of the group that her group grew out of. I asked if the Pleds had a culture, could they describe for US the most famous or acclaimed piece of art in that culture? Then asked how exactly life could exist in a cluster of white-blue hot nebulae... This was very, very early on, and BM had no answers. She stopped the session, and the lady whose house it was asked me to leave... Now, I still see BM, and know a lot of her long time followers, and even though I think her stuff is as bogus as the rest of the genre, sheīs a much more sincere person than LKJ. And, if she had put her ideas in sci-fi form, she wouldīve made much more $ and had considerable respect for it...
V: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, period. In the world of space brother mediumship, the more outrageous the claim, the less proof is offered. Laura pretends to be different, and she is actually the worse of the lot. Even BM is a sweetheart by comparison. But that´s not my concern, usually. You can believe in the virgin birth and the resurrection for all I care, but in the case of Laura and cassiopaeans, they not only made it personal, but they crossed a legal and moral line that I, personally, find reprehensible beyond all describing. And, truthfully, because I helped her get to this point, I am morally responsible for setting the record straight...
I: How do you see the C´s as being responsible for the legal and moral mess Laura´s created?
V: It is part of LKJīs pathology that she needs such radical outside support for her delusions of power and entitlement. The Cs are the exteriorization of her dysfunction, and only rarely anything more. Using the moral superiority that the Cs give, LKJ has proceeded to act out her true beliefs about herself and the world...
V: I´m still waiting for anyone to come up with any reasonable scenario in which the House raffle/flight to France could possibly be legal...
I: No, of course it´s not legal. It´s clear that they broke the law, and this fits with what was posted here about cult leaders´ disregard for social norms.
V: Thank you so much for saying that...
VB |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19054
7/18/2005 5:48 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Vincent and Infinitea - thank you for a fascinating discussion :O))) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3933
7/18/2005 5:54 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19054
7/18/2005 6:04 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anonymous
User ID: 2197
7/18/2005 6:32 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Two questions for Anders and Vincent:
1) Have you ever told a lie at least once in regard to Laura & Ark?
2) Have you lied at least once in your messages on this forum?
Thanks, and I look forward to your response!  |
| Anonymous
User ID: 2197
7/18/2005 6:40 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Actually, question two could be more specific:
2) Have you at least once lied in any of your posts within this thread?
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