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Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans?

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Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 8:09 AM
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Vincent Bridges
User ID: 19243
7/19/2005 8:22 AM
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V: Perhaps enlightenment is better found in the NOW that is real, rather than a preferable fanatsy?

I: Reality, what a concept...are you familiar with the observer effect, and the idea that we live in a dreamupable universe?

"One implication (of the new discoveries in physics) is that
objective reality is more like a dream than we have previously
suspected." - Michael Talbot, author of The Holographic
Universe

"Useful as it is under everyday
circumstances to say that the world exists "out there," independent of
us, that view can no longer be upheld. There is a strange sense in which
this is a participatory universe." - Physicist John Wheeler

V: I might ask how much skill you have at lucid dreaming? Since this reality, the world of action, is much denser than the dreamscape, then it is harder, much harder, to do lucid living... The Universe is indeed a participatory event, but the distance between our macro-brains and nervous systems and the micro-quantuum of indetermancy is vast indeed. Rather than indulge in acts of fanatsy and wish-fulfilment, why not just work on the basics, you know, compassion, insight meditation, work on one´s self, that sort of thing?

Now, I still see BM, and know a lot of her long time followers, and even though I think her stuff is as bogus as the rest of the genre, she´s a much more sincere person than LKJ. And, if she had put her ideas in sci-fi form, she would´ve made much more $ and had considerable respect for it...

I: It could be the Pleiadians, and the C´s, and many other channeled entities for that matter, being nonphysical, do not live in
the kind of material, describable reality you were asking about. I don´t recall Seth ever talking about the nature of his own personal
reality. I wonder if anyone ever asked him.

Barbara´s inability to answer your question could have been due to her own difficulty conceiving of, relating to, and thus, describing such a reality. I have a friend who knows her personally, I may pass that tidbit on.

To you it may be bogus, but I´ve found much of value in the P´s material. To each their own.

V: Indeed, insight can be found in very strange places, and your understanding is what is important to you. As for Seth, see Education of Oversoul Seven, a classic of the genre... I´m sure that you´re right, BM was just too flustered to come up with a reasonable story on the spur of the moment. It was early days, after all... Tell your friend that Vincent from Angelica Books In Winston-Salem and the old Melchizedek group says hello... That´ll give her a tweak...lol!

V: It is part of LKJ´s pathology that she needs such radical outside support for her delusions of power and entitlement. The Cs are the exteriorization of her dysfunction, and only rarely anything more. Using the moral superiority that the Cs give, LKJ has proceeded to act out her true beliefs about herself and the world...

I: How do you think the C´s provide her with "moral superiority"? Have they ever given their blessing to the house raffle, for instance, or to any of her other questionable activities?

V: In the same way the Pleds, et al, do any channeler... You are so special, that you are actually in communication with a discarnate higher intelligence. YOU, and only you, and everyone else gets to sit and listen, take notes, tape it, create sects and cults and schisms... This is an acquired or situational psychosis, replete with altered states of consciousness, psychotic interjections, those "voices" speaking are kinda kinky and down right clinical, and flashes of meglomaniacal dellusions. The good hearted ones turn out like BM, the truly psychotic turn out like LKJ... Take your choice...

As I said before, I have been studying these subjects for almost 40 years. I recorded my first Raudive Effect back in 1968, for instance, and I married into a family of Spiritualists. In fact, a week or so at Lily Dale would do you a world of good...

There are levels of being and awareness, but on all levels discernment is required. As I keep saying extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Any good medium at Lily Dale will tell you that the lower astral is full of spirits that will tell you anything, just to continue getting the "juice" from the connection. Buy into that with the ego, and these critters always hit on the ego, and you end up like BM, or worse, LKJ...

VB
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 8:28 AM
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Soooooo

George Soros is an intellectual follower of Karl Popper, author of the renowned "The Open Society and Its Enemies"....

And Arkadiusz Jadczyck is also an intellectual follower of Karl Popper, author of the renowned "The Open Society and Its Enemies"....



One must ask, what is it about Karl Popper that ATTRACTS these two ARCHONS???


The amazing degree of disinformation over the recent Global Gulag column - Satan lives in George Soros - pales to the sanctimonious hypocrisy published in Joe Conason´s Journal, on Salon.com. Either Mr Conason is intellectually disable or suffers from an integrity challenged condition. The essay is about GEORGE SOROS.

Attempts to divert or deflect from the reality that GEORGE SOROS trades in depravity are typical when the facts are undeniable. So “Uncle Joe” reverts to attacking the messenger since the message is unassailable. Disingenuous seems to be the chosen substitute for the Dzhugashivili family name. Even such an unimpeachable source as David Horowitz comments about “Big Lies” (a fitting title for an autobiography): “I happened to come across one chapter of it posted in Salon.com which mentions me. Well, actually, it smears me and makes no effort whatsoever to describe and/or analyze how I am alleged to distort the truth. And in fact it utterly distorts what I have written . . . Why does it not surprise me that the author of Big Lies should turn out to be a Big Liar?”

A defense of GEORGE SOROS must answer the following. Neil Clark, writing in an incisive article the New Statesman (June 2, 2003), points out that Soros “made billions out of the Eastern currency crash of 1997,” and that he was fined last year “for insider trading by a court in France.” How do you explain? - “Soros’s business partners at the Carlyle Group---one of the world’s largest private equity funds, which makes most of this profit from defense contracts? They include the former secretary of state James Baker and Frank Carlucci, former defense secretary, George Bush, Sr, and “until recently, the estranged relatives of Osama BinLaden.” Soros has invested more than $100 million in Carlyle”

Justify the performance of GEORGE SOROS’ Quantum Fund, Mr Conason? William Engdahl explains : "Soros´ connection to the ultra-secret international finance circles of the Rothschilds is not just an ordinary or accidental banking connection. The extraordinary success Soros has on the high-risk financial markets cannot simply be explained with "gambler´s luck". Soros has access to the "insider track" of the world´s most important information channels, both government and private.” You remember his shorting Sterling in 1993 and the damage done to Britain! How about refuting the Rothschilds group linkage with George Soros and their involvement in the vast illegal network of the BCCI? And don’t forget his involvement with “shock therapy”, that helped Poland with interest rates in Polish zloty reaching 80% a year.

Again the issue is GEORGE SOROS! In his own words from a “60 Minutes” broadcast December 20, 1998 interviewed by Steve Kroft.

Steve Kroft: Are you a religious man?

Soros: No.

Kroft: Do you believe in God?

Soros: No.

How about a little clarification on your concern about attitudes. Henry Makow, PhD in Do Jews Suffer from False Consciousness? and The Real Cause of "Anti Semitism" sums up the topic concisely. Once again the issue is GEORGE SOROS. Are you getting it yet, Mr Conason?

Judging from the responses received from the original Soros essay, first published in BREAKING ALL THE RULES, the crowd that follows your lead seem to be extras from The Inner Circle. In keeping to the level of your commissar soul mates, this Rolling Stone review could describe your comrades: “Ivan, the trusting Everyman who makes Stalin´s (insert GEORGE SOROS for that other Uncle Joe) tyranny possible, won´t see the irony -- not even in the face of personal loss”.

One more time, the topic is GEORGE SOROS.

Feeble attempts to intimate with erroneous accusations of deception won’t scare this publisher. How others react will establish their own grade for a Profile in Courage. "Suddenly deleting such vile anti-Semitism from this Republican site with no explanation, and no apology simply won´t cut it. Virulent anti-Semitism causes very real damage, and GOPUSA must acknowledge this," said National Jewish Democratic Council Executive Director Ira N. Forman. Submit Mr Forman doesn’t get it either - The issue is GEORGE SOROS . . .

When andrewsullivan.com joins with the tribe: “paleocon, James Hall, whose piece first appeared on the conservative GOPUSA website. It´s important to realize that old far-right anti-semitism has not been replaced by the new far left variety - just supplemented. A case in point”, he should get his own facts straight. First non BATR publication for Global Gulag columns appear in etherzone.com.

Just wonder where all the sincere Jewish clerics are hiding? If GEORGE SOROS is a non believer - rejects Yahweh - what is the motivation for their deafening silence? Surely, you reject all those arguments that the essence of being Jewish is racial or blood related? How many times have we all heard - anyone could convert - it is a religious standard . . . Aren’t you glad this is a non factor, since the column was directed at the corruption of GEORGE SOROS!

The BATR Editorial on this topic states: “Secular Zionists are not above the law or legitimate criticism”. If rabid Likudniks so confuse their identity with nefarious manipulators like Soros, just how much creditability do they have after they demean their own self respect? Let’s hear the arguments sympathetic to Marc Rich! Are we to conclude that the condemning zealots support George Soros’ Social Agenda for America? If so, why should any sane and authentic American have empathy for such immoral values? Our duty is to oppose evil. GEORGE SOROS is the embodiment of the “Big Lies” that Uncle Joe Conason excels at distorting.

If using the designation offends, the family Shylock name; it is acknowledged that GEORGE SOROS has greatly surpassed the Shakespeare character. So where is your outrage against this miscreant - GEORGE SOROS? “The Soros Doctrine” is a formula for corruption and enslavement. This columnists rejects it and opposes any group who supports his social agenda.

From the Amazon review of Conason’s book - Big Lies - “The modern right wing, in the opinion of Conason, is not the bastion of virtue and defender of the common man it claims to be. Rather, it is a calculating and shrewdly efficient group of propagandists fueled by revenues generated by a system that rewards cronyism”. Ask who is carrying the water? Wouldn’t be surprised if GEORGE SOROS backs the likes of this twisted ‘everyman’, named Joe.

SARTRE - November 25, 2003

More Proof!

Soros ´speculating against dollar´




Soros unashamedly admits to making money by exploiting market anomalies, even if this meant impoverishing nations. Soros then does an about turn and espouses the need for social values, in order to curb greed, and bring sanity to the markets.
M.G.Pawley - South Africa
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 8:31 AM
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"George Soros was born in Budapest, Hungary on August 12, 1930. He survived the Nazi occupation of Budapest and left communist Hungary in 1947 for England, where he graduated from the London School of Economics (LSE). While a student at LSE, Soros became familiar with the work of the philosopher Karl Popper, who had a profound influence on his thinking and later on his professional and philanthropic activities."

George Soros says his favorite philosopher is Karl Popper.

Chairman of Soros Fund Management LCC, a private investment management firm that serves as principal advisor to the Quantum Group of Funds, based in the Netherlands Antilles, a Caribbean tax haven.

Founder and chairman of the Open Society Institute and Soros foundations network. ("Building a Global Alliance for Open Society").

Hungarian businessman. Jewish; original family name is Schwartz.

Net worth estimated at $11B.
Partner in the Carlyle Group.
Alleged owner of Harken Energy.
As currency speculator, allegedly cost the UK a billion dollars in one day.

This is from this forum:

[link to www.dynamictruth.com]

I know nothing about this forum, I was doing a google search for the article Michael Savage wrote about Soros, and came upon this... In light of all the heat that the Bush family takes for Harken and Carlyle... wouldn´t it be interesting if Soros was their partner???

This may back up your belief that W. has switched factions. This information would certainly explain why he is backing Kerry and trying to do everything he can to destroy W. To me... and again, I have to add... IF this snippet is true... I believe W. double crossed Soros and the rest of the NWO gang and they are furious. No wonder there´s such a heated war going on in the political arena right now...
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 8:35 AM
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Check out the last paragraph - LOL, Seems like Ark and Laura´s CULT game plan too...

No wonder Ark´s having a threesome with George Soros and Karl Popper!

The Devil´s in the DETAILS! Right Ark???




Satan lives in George Soros

The fiction which is interdependency has a prolocutor in the congregation of Moloch. His name is George Soros. No other single person represents the symbol and the substance of Globalism more than this Hungarian-born descendant of Shylock. He is the embodiment of the Merchant from Venice. His public reputation as an astute currency speculator is generous, while his skills as a manipulator and procurer of pain and suffering is shrouded in the footnotes of the financial journals. Claiming to be a philanthropist, his record is literally one of being a patron for indentured enslavement.

His assault on Sterling caused the British empire to shutter. The Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad blamed the American billionaire for nearly ruining Malaysia´s economy with massive currency speculation. And Hard-core Russian nationalists decried as "meddling" his funding of progressive newspapers and institutions in post-Soviet Russia. But his incontrovertible talent does not rest in amassing financial fortunes, it lies in his social agenda.



My Open Society will pay for My World

While it is reported widely that Soros funded groups support increased government spending, tax increases, opposes the death penalty and President Bush’s judicial nominees; it has a far more sinister scheme. In report by Neil Hrab - George Soros’ Social Agenda for America - drug legalization, euthanasia, immigration entitlements and feminism are examined. Mr Hrab point out that in the book Open Society: Reforming Global Capitalism, Soros wrote that he is: “rather leery of self-appointment, self righteous” international NGO’s. From his own site Soros proudly claims that his foundations are dedicated to building and maintaining the infrastructure and institutions of an open society. They work closely with OSI to develop and implement a range of programs focusing on civil society, education, media, public health, and human rights as well as social, legal, and economic reform. In recent years, OSI and the Soros foundations network have spent more than $400 million annually to support projects in these and other focus areas.

Double standards for an advocate of a permissive, yet regimented globe? If you think he is a friend of humanity, beware of his public attempt to influence his tribe, by insulting their benefactors. Before the Jewish Funders Network, he recently made these remarks: "There is a resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe. The policies of the Bush administration and the Sharon administration contribute to that," Soros said. "It´s not specifically anti-Semitism, but it does manifest itself in anti-Semitism as well. I´m critical of those policies." The inevitable outcry from the usual suspects, just illustrates the orchestrated nature of the Soros effort to rationalize his own social agenda, while deflecting criticism back to his ancestral blood line. Let the Zionist defend their fears, Soros has another George to defeat . . .

Since President George is busy consummating the relationship with Ariel, Soros must lump both together in order to attack the Bush administration. If it is the life’s mission of Soros to slay the dragon, why is he so bashful? “It would be too immodest for a private person to set himself up against the president,” he said. “But it is, in fact” – he chuckled – “the Soros Doctrine”.

The Scotsman reports: “Mr Soros invited Democratic strategists to his house in Southampton, including John Podesta, Jeremy Rosner, Bob Boorstin and Carl Pope. They discussed the coming election. Mr Soros took aside Steve Rosenthal and Ellen Malcolm, the CEO and president of America Coming Together (ACT), who were proposing to mobilise voters in 17 battleground states. Mr Soros told them he would give them $10 million.

The next morning, his friend Peter Lewis, the chairman of the Progressive Corp, had pledged $10 million to ACT. Rob Glaser, the founder and CEO of RealNetworks, promised $2 million. Rob McKay, president of the McKay Family Foundation, gave $1 million and benefactors Lewis and Dorothy Cullman committed $500,000.

Mr Soros also promised up to $3 million to Podesta’s new think tank, the Centre for American Progress.”

One need not be a Bush lackey to recognize that Soros is less fearful of Dubya and more motivated to enact his vision for the world. The dilemma that real conservatives have is distinguishing a truthful assessment of Bush and Sharon policies, while recognizing that the alternatives from a radical globalist like Soros are equally distorted. If Soros is correct when he says a “supremacist ideology” guides the White House, what would you call the practices of the archfiend of Free Enterprise? The Soros deception would make Shylock proud. However, where is Antonio?

Shylock: Antonio is a good man.

Bassanio: Have you heard any imputation to the contrary?

Shylock: Ho no, no, no, no: my meaning in saying he is a good man, is to have you understand that he is sufficient. - The Merchant of Venice [1.3.10-15]

Certainly George Bush has demonstrated his lack of sufficiency. No substitute is on the horizon, only alternatives from the likes of a Soros.

So when the billionaire financier said: “he, too, bears some responsibility for the new anti-Semitism, citing last months speech by Malaysia´s outgoing prime minister, Mahathir Mohammad, who said, "Jews rule the world by proxy"; why should anyone empathize or embrace Soros’ culpability? As is the normal practice, it’s not about anti-Semitism! Mahathir Mohammad was just stating the truth . . . The Soros duplicity is marked with the same betrayal as the framing of the eternal political conflict. The financial desolation that Soros leaves in the wake of his deceitful transactions is the proof. Ignoring this reality does not make it disappear.

Soros wants to drug you so you can’t think, terminate you when you can no longer pay tribute, force you to intermingle with alien invaders and emasculate you to an unnatural equality. If that isn’t the plan of the devil, what else would you call it?
Vincent Bridges
User ID: 19243
7/19/2005 8:36 AM
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Cassiopaeans identified!!!!

(From the ouiji board thread)

Some say Choronzon is the demon Jesus cast out of the man in Gardarenes.


Choronzon, the Lord of Dispersion
by Anders Sandberg (nv91-asa@nada.kth.se)
HTML by Will Franqui (wfranqui@nmsu.edu)
----------------------------------------------------------​----------------------
Choronzon, also known as 333, Lord of Hallucinations, is one of the most feared umbrood in existence. Many mages have fallen prey to its cunning plans, and its power can´t be ignored. It is a preceptor, which some claim is one of the Wyrm´s most dangerous servants. Other mages whisper that it is a part of Wyrm capable of independent action. Some mages claim Choronzon is the Wyrm. The truth is not known. Choronzon appears to sometimes be a group of entities, and sometimes a single entity (My name is Legion).
Choronzon is a spirit of dissolution, physical, mental and spiritual. Everything around it will begin to decay. It will do its best to hasten the dissolution of everything it can reach. Matter will slowly dissolve. Living beings will age and sicken. It derails the trains of thought, and turns people insane. In the vicinity of it, nothing remains untainted.

It is said that every mage must some day confront and overcome it in order to ascend. Choronzon will do its best to hinder anybody from reaching Ascension or any other goal. Its greatest triumph is when a mage loses Arete. On December 6, 1909 Aleister Crowley foolishly let himself be possessed by the demon (Se Liber XXX Aerum, The Vision and the Voice, for more detailed descriptions). The end result was close to a disaster, and according to many mages Crowley lost the path towards Ascension.

Choronzon is confused and often quite stupid. But it is also extremely cunning and dangerous. It can manipulate people subtly while appearing to make crude attacks. The demon will almost always retreat from any attack, not even defending itself. But it will never give up, and will reappear later, in a more insidious form. The only thing it cannot abide is order and discipline. Any form of highly ordered thought, speech or behavior is abhorrent to it, and it will flee if possible (unless it could topple the order in a subtle way).

The demon seldom appears threatening to a mage. Instead it appears to be a quite confused and irritating little being, unable to do much harm. In fact, it often behaves entertainingly, incoherently discussing things that seem important to the mage. While the mage listens to the confusing demon, it will slowly plant the seeds of dissolution in the soul of the mage. Choronzon will strengthen the flaws and illusions in the victim, making the victim believe in his own self image. As the demon works on, the mage will be derailed from the path towards Ascension and turned towards dissolution and insanity. A mind infected by Choronzon will slowly decay, and the victim will be a simple matter to possess for the demon, regardless how strong-minded the victim believes he is.

It is thought that Choronzon dwells somewhere near The Horizon, in an area known as the Abyss (Which could be another name for the Deep Umbra). According to some rumors, he must be defeated by anyone venturing out into the Deep Umbra searching for a place among the Oracles.

To summon Choronzon is quite simple, almost any fool with Spirit 2 can do it. It sometimes acts as a kind of freelance paradox spirit, appearing when a mage has used spectacular entropy-prime effects. In many cases it has secretly encouraged the mage to continue, thus spreading entropy even more.

Choronzon very seldom manifests physically, preferring to possess people. It does this with great skill, making his victims think they are in perfect control over their own minds. When it does manifest, it will only appear as a voice. Sometimes it will manifest using many bodies and voices, giving the impression of a great horde of demons.

Attributes: no own body, Perception 5, Intelligence 1, Wits 5

Abilities: no useful

Background: Arcane 5

Spheres:

Entropy: 5
Life: 4
Mind: 4
Prime: 4
Arete: 5
Willpower: 1

Quintessence: 5

Paradox: -

Typical Effects:

Dissolve Structure (Prime 4 Entropy 3/4/5) Choronzon initiates decay wherever he goes. This effect will make anything start to dissolve into nothing. Most of the time it uses this effect coincidentally, preferring to let dissolution take its time. Sometimes Choronzon dissolves things quickly, often for no reason. The process is subtle, but when initiated it cannot be stopped except by more powerful magick. The dissolution slowly spreads, turning matter into dust which blows away and disappears, killing life and making people slowly go insane.

Dissolve Mind (Entropy 5 Mind 2) Choronzon implants a destructive, irrational or confusing impulse in the mind of someone. This impulse will not go away, but will slowly grow until it becomes an obsession. Usually Choronzon implants distortions in the self image, turning people into unknowing caricatures of themselves. Sons of Ether will slowly become complete egomaniacs. Celestial Chorus will slowly become fanatics. Choronzon will quickly become even more confused.

Sow the Seed of Entropy (Entropy 3/4/5 Prime 2) The demon plants a small entropy seed inside something or someone. Most of the time it will remain there, unchanging but when stressed, it will release its entropy. A rope will suddenly break when someone´s life depends on it, a horse will bolt, a mirror will crack and faith will momentarily crumble in a crisis. Choronzon does not have any control over these seeds, but spreads them liberally.

Confused Knowledge (Mind 3) The demon is almost constantly using this effect. It opens the user´s mind to every other mind in the area, especially nearby ones. The user will know everything anybody knows, feel every desire and fear and generally understand the secret motivations of people. Unfortunately the user is completely confused, and his own personality and knowledge is submerged. This doesn´t matter to Choronzon, who hasn´t got much personality in the first place. Using this rote, the demon will always talk about things that interest the listener, have beliefs somewhat like his and a uncanny way of revealing the deepest secrets of a person in an offhand way.


Wow... Now that´s the best descripton I´ve ever read about the effects of the Cs and their cult...

VB

monster
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 8:54 AM
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(((SHUDDER!)))

Aleister Crowley once was said to have evoked Choronzon, in the Sahara desert, and Choronzon threw sand on the protective triangle and was able to attack Crowley´s friend "like a naked enraged savage." He was forced back into the triangle at the tip of a pointed dagger.
Vincent Bridges
User ID: 19243
7/19/2005 8:57 AM
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Ya know, we couldn´t make this shit up and have it be any spookier or more down right weird...

VB
Vincent Bridges
User ID: 19243
7/19/2005 8:59 AM
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Ya know, we couldn´t make this shit up and have it be any spookier or more down right weird...

VB
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 9:03 AM
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NOPE!!!
AC girl
User ID: 19248
7/19/2005 9:07 AM
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GREAT work on Soros, guys!band

Question is: Is Laura a pawn? or is she a Black Ops Agent, knowingly?

(The house sale pales into insignificance)....do we know how much Lark receive from Soros????
Vincent Bridges
User ID: 19243
7/19/2005 9:18 AM
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GREAT work on Soros, guys!

Question is: Is Laura a pawn? or is she a Black Ops Agent, knowingly?

(The house sale pales into insignificance)....do we know how much Lark receive from Soros????

V: The technical term is White Ops, but yes, I´d say she has knowingly signed on. Ark for sure has a history that is downright starnge, with all sorts of curious connections on both sides of the old iron curtain. As for financial support, well, considering how laura spends, she ran through the $150,000 grand from the raffle in about 5 months, it has to be considerable. Someone for sure has been directing the show since last fall. I suspect that there is a Soros connection behind Darren Williams and the Pentagon Strike. Why, when there are so many loose ends, would anyone pick something so easily debunked as the missle strike on the Pentagon? That´s always smelled like a disinformation job to me...

VB
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 9:25 AM
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Cheers AC girl :O)

While I am no fan at all of Michael Savage (he used to drink at my local pub in San Francisco, and I was a regular listener until Savage went OTT once too often) this is worth a read...


Savage on "Billionaire George Goebbels Soros": "a money changer in the temple of truth"
Savage on MoveOn.org: "rat-bastard Communists"

Following progressive financier, philanthropist, and political activist George Soros´s June 3 speech at the Campaign for America´s Future "Take Back America" conference, radio host Michael Savage dedicated the majority of the June 4 broadcast of his three-hour nationally syndicated radio show, Savage Nation, to blasting Soros.

In addition to labeling Soros "a dangerous crazy man" and a "lousy snake," Savage also compared Soros to "Hitler´s media man" -- in reference to Hitler´s Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels -- and repeatedly called Soros "Goebbels". (Soros is a Hungarian-born Jew who survived the Nazi occupation of Communist Budapest.)



Anders - NB Laura claims to have committed suicide with her children by jumping off a roof during the Nazi occupation! And now Ark is her reincarnated ex!

And see above about Soros.

Which came first - the chicken or the egg?

And Note Well again:

Laura´s pitiful reincarnation story seems to have been directly plagiarized from Elisabeth Haiche, who wrote about an identical scenario in her wonderful 50 year old work, ´Initiation´...

My my my, so MANY coincidences with the L´arks!!!




In addition, Savage accused Soros of "trying to encourage another terrorist attack [on the United States]"; he ranted, "[Y]ou [Soros] are a deceitful, backstabbing, unpatriotic traitorous bastard in my opinion"; and he called MoveOn.org (to which Soros has contributed financially) "an organization of rat-bastard Communists."

From the June 4 broadcast of Savage Nation:

SAVAGE: I think he´s [Soros] just crazy, I´m telling you the truth, but he´s a dangerous crazy man, with all of his money. And everyone, even crazy people are entitled to vote for whom they want in our wonderful democracy. But for him to keep repeating the big lies, over and over again, until they become the truth, and they resound in the audience of Communists there, it´s astounding to me that people don´t understand what he´s saying, and what lies they are. ... The word progressive today is a code word for the new Communist movement.



Anders - Nope Michael, it is GLOBALISM, the New World Odour...



[…]

SAVAGE: We´ll let those who wanna take back America, take it back with the retarded speech of Goebbels [Soros]. I couldn´t believe what I heard when I turned on C-SPAN today, and heard Billionaire George Goebbels Soros attacking Bush -- now he has the right to attack Bush, don´t get me wrong. But to lie like this is something I couldn´t understand. Listen for example, to clip 29, "I think that those pictures hit us the same way as the terrorist attack itself. Not quite with the same force because the terrorist attack, we were the victims. In the pictures, we were the perpetrators…" Let´s stop right there. So this man compares the death of 3,000 Americans to radical Muslim hijackers and murders, to the humiliation of a number of Iraqi prisoners, by a very small number of American troops. This is called the big lie. And if you tell a big lie often enough it will become the truth. That´s what Goebbels, Hitler´s media man, said, and that´s what Soros and the others at this Communist rally yesterday, call Take Back America or doing. It´s unbelievable to me. And he keeps doing it, and doing it, and doing it. And this does remind me of a very dangerous time in the past. This man is a clear and present danger to America. He´s declared war on America, and I don´t know how George Bush doesn´t understand how dangerous this man is.

[...]

When we come back I wanna talk about George Soros and why he seems to be attacking Bush and America. Could it be that he´s bet on the Euro? Does he want the American dollar to collapse? Is he, subtly or not so subtly, trying to encourage another terrorist attack, so that he can make another couple of billion dollars when the U.S. currently collapses against the Euro or some other currency. Is that possible? Is that too far-fetched? Is it uncivil of me to ask those questions of a money trader? [Media Matters for America added the preceding quotation to this item on June 14.]

[...]

SAVAGE: And then he comes here and says military power will never bring democracy anywhere in the world? That´s insanity. But he gets even worse. I want you to listen to clip 30 right now. Listen to this big lie from George Goebbels Soros. "The fact is, [inaudible] I think that the American public has now seen that they´ve been mislead, and they´ve turned against the Bush Administration." You´re a moneychanger in the temple of truths. Not only are you a money changer in the temple of truth, but you are a deceitful, backstabbing, unpatriotic traitorous bastard in my opinion. I am so sick of this. Listen to clip 31. "The Iraqi involvement has been an utter disaster for the United States. Even in terms of the American Supremacists, who wanted to demonstrate America´s military power…" Shut your mouth! Shut your mouth! Shut your mouth, I can´t take it! You lousy snake. You lousy snake. You lousy snake is all I can say.

[…]

SAVAGE: Billionaire George Goebbels Soros, if you tell a big lie often enough it will become the truth -- how dare you come to my fair country, and infect it with these foreign, sick ideas George? You´re not fooling anybody. You know you´re part of a left-wing fringe that will destroy the Democrat party even further than it´s been destroyed. Keep on talking George, because it doesn´t play outside MoveOn.org, an organization of rat-bastard Communists. How´s that George?
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 9:27 AM
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Question is: Is Laura a pawn? or is she a Black Ops Agent, knowingly?




You´d have to be an A1 dimbulb not to smell a rat with Ark - and Laura, for all her faults, is not dim. How could she not be part of the agenda?
AC Girl
User ID: 19248
7/19/2005 9:29 AM
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Why White Ops?

Also, does Laura declare, on her website, how/why Soros is backing her?

Thanks! book
Vincent Bridges
User ID: 19243
7/19/2005 9:36 AM
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Why White Ops?

Also, does Laura declare, on her website, how/why Soros is backing her?

Thanks!

V: A White Ops is an operation designed to take place in the open, as opposed to Black Ops, which are supposed to be secret. You have to look through the C-worl sites carefully to find the connections. 13876 seems to have covered most of the basics. One further point to research is the connections between the Bagdonov brothers, apparently the C-cults handlers, and Sorros... Any insights, 13876?

VB
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 9:41 AM
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13876 was me, I was too lazy to sign in - messing!


The Bogdanovs IMHO are part of the Ark/Soros/NWO dynamic - I heard rumours that they have SDCE links/sway ... all v murky, they look like aliens walking the face of the earth, LOL! And the way L´arks are always attacking Mossad and Israel, my money is ON Mossad being part of this ... remember Soros is Jewish, and there are many Jews in Poland - I wonder what Ark´s REAL background is ... as Chandra said, a hoover job allows them to attract Jew haters and Israel haters and Bush haters and they can then finger the dupes to the Intel agencies for further ´attention´... just MHO. As always, I am open to revisiting these (partly) tentative conclusions...
AC girl
User ID: 19248
7/19/2005 9:41 AM
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Soros seems to be a financial nightmare! Do you think he is Reptoid of the highest order? Check this out (looks like he got away with it):

[link to english.pravda.ru]
2002-11-10

George Soros Goes on Trial
---------------------------
The trial involves high-ranking French politicians, bankers and currency stags

American billionaire George Soros and three other men will have to face a trial in France on the allegation of financial intrigues in connection with a failed takeover of French bank Societe Generale in 1998. Besides Soros, there are other statesmen involved in the litigation: Jean-Charles Naouri, former head of the office of then-Finance Minister Pierre Beregovoy, and Lebanese businessman Samir Traboulsi.

All four defendants are accused of obtaining about eleven million dollars by means of selling the bank’s stocks prior to the news about the coming takeover of the bank. It took the police 14 years to set all the necessary documents ready for filing a case. According to the BBC, the main problem of the investigation is basically about the fact that the countries, which are implicated in the scandal, were not really willing to cooperate with the French police.

The probe regarding Societe Generale bank was launched in 1990 after the publication of an unsuccessful takeover of the bank, which had been privatized back in 1987. A year after the privatization, the bank was about to be taken over by the company Marceau Investissements. This company managed to acquire ten percent of Societe Generale’s stocks. However, the management of the bank did not agree upon a takeover.

The attorneys, who cooperated with the Netherlands, British, Swiss and Luxembourg authorities, tried to collect all financial documents of the case. They acknowledge that there are still a lot of blank spots in the whole issue.

Defendant George Pebero was amnestied in 1995. Seven people more (they were convicted within the scope of the process) were also amnestied, two years later. Reuters informed that the trial would last until November 20th. For the time being, it is not known, when the verdict is going to be brought down.


...In 1947 George Soros left Hungary, seeking for fortune in the West. He used to work as a train conductor in order to earn some money for studying at a London economic school. His studies brought him a lot of good, as we all know.

Soros moved over to the USA after working in one of the banks of London’s City. In the United States Soros became one of the best Wall Street analysts in the field of European markets. At the age of 39 he founded the offshore fund Quantum. In 1998 he was on the list of USA’s richest people, taking the 27 position.

Great Britain remembers Soros as the man, who ruined the Bank of England. In September of 1992 he bade on DeutschMark instead of English pound sterling. Soros did not make a mistake on the currency market at that time. The deal allegedly brought him about one billion dollars of profit. As a result of that catastrophe (London City bankers still call that day “black Wednesday”), an English pound sterling was withdrawn from the single European currency exchange. Soros has been dealing a lot with charity lately, especially in the countries of East Europe and of the former Soviet Union. This seems to be true.

Russia still can’t forgive Soros for the financial crisis in 1998, when he ignored the international attack on a Russian ruble. All Russian people still remember the default of August 1998. This is, maybe, the reason to explain the sad fate of George Soros’ Russian division of the Open Society Foundation. This organization has actually stopped its activity in the summer of the current year. The head of the Russian division, Ekaterina Geniyeva, blamed the wild temper of the Russian capitalism for that. Yet, it deems that the reasons are much more sufficient.
Vincent Bridges
User ID: 19243
7/19/2005 9:49 AM
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Is it just me or does anyone else find the Quantum Future Group, and the Quantum Group, eeriely similar...?

VB
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 9:53 AM
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Is it just me or does anyone else find the Quantum Future Group, and the Quantum Group, eeriely similar...?


!!!

I completely missed that one!

I say again though, which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Soros may well have always been on the scene with Ark, certainly.

Coincidences just ABOUND in the C world!!!
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 9:54 AM
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Oh and BTW, when did the Quantum Future SCHOOL morph into GROUP?

To me, a group denotes a society, a brotherhood, closed/set thinking, a Cult.

A school sounds slightly less Cult-like...
Vincent Bridges
User ID: 19243
7/19/2005 9:58 AM
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Is it just me or does anyone else find the Quantum Future Group, and the Quantum Group, eeriely similar...?

Actually, it is even closer, Quantum FUNDS Group, and Quantum FUTURE Group...

VB
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 10:04 AM
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Actually, it is even closer, Quantum FUNDS Group, and Quantum FUTURE Group...


Indeed! And Soros picked that name circa 1977 - it is the best performing group of funds ever ... well, it would be, with a NWO insider at its helm, with links to the Rothschilds/Rockefellers and their corrupt parasitical ilk...

Nice PARDNER you have there, Ark...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19263
7/19/2005 10:42 AM
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[link to www.fraternity-fund.com]

The Fraternity Fund is a "fund of fund" of hedge funds. The funds in our Portfolio include the Quantum Group of Funds (QGF) that are either directly or indirectly advised by George Soros or Soros Fund Management (SFM).

Q: (L) I want to re-publish Amazing Grace and I´m looking for a new title
A: Suggest C&C..
Q (L) What does that mean?
A: Crime and Circumstance.
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 10:45 AM
Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans?Quote

A: Crime and Circumstance.


lmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmao
Anders (BBM)
User ID: 19245
7/19/2005 11:21 AM
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From another thread...


Definition:

Although the name Choronzon has been popularized by Aleister Crowley, it originates in the Enochian records of John Dee, where he is synonymous with the serpent of the garden; in modern magickal practice Choronzon is the final obstacle of the abyss, the dark side of the ego, which must be defeated before one attains mastery.

The crocodile occasionaly pictured on the first tarot trump is Choronzon, in the guise of Ammit, the eater of souls in Egyptian mythology. To the prepared, Choronzon is the beneficient destroyer of the ego, to the unprepared, a force of dispersion or annihlation.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8218
7/19/2005 1:04 PM
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bump
Not Stupid
User ID: 8218
7/19/2005 2:43 PM
Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans?Quote

Found a new ouija board for Laura:

[link to www.witchboards.net]
Not Stupid
User ID: 8218
7/19/2005 3:34 PM
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Interesting article on jinns and how they are involved in UFO encounters, channeling, etc.:

[link to www.conspiracyarchive.com]

From that website: The Arabian tradition asserts that, throughout all known history, there have been a few particular human beings who, through some strange favour, have "been in league with the JINNS" or "had a compact with the JINNS" -- to such a degree that the JINNS have endowed them with what we regard as "preternatural powers" -- ie. , PSYCHIC POWERS.

NS: Reminds me of the C’s comments about covenants and quorums between humans and others whose natures they wouldn´t divulge.

And an interesting take from a religious website about Choronzon:

[link to www.nccg.org]
anders
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 4:00 PM
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This board is based on anchient creatures called the Djinn (pronounced JINN). The Djinn were mystical beings that drew their powers from the elements. Eventually, stories of the Djinn evolved into modern genie legends. Call upon the ancient power of the universe through the Djinn using this specially designed board. The board is 22" long and 15" wide. It´s also 1/2 inch thick and comes with a matching wooden planchette. Your board will be in the style of the board shown above and will come with a certificate stating its number of production.


Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh!!!!

I WANT one!!!

Kool music TOO!

Almost as GOOD as the latest SOTT OPUS!!!

(Shame about the podcast!)


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