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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 4:41 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Where is 1222???
The critter never did come back... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8218
7/19/2005 5:04 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
bump |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 5:37 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Infinitea
User ID: 4544
7/19/2005 5:41 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Q: (L) I want to re-publish Amazing Grace and I´m looking for a new title
A: Suggest C&C..
Q (L) What does that mean?
A: Crime and Circumstance.
Thanks for posting that, interesting!!
Seems like a play on two
other titles: Pomp and Circumstance, and
Crime and Punishment.
It also suggests Lauraīs victim mentality
(victim of crimes, of circumstance).
The Cīs are smart, and subtle  |
| Infinitea
User ID: 15916
7/19/2005 6:51 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
A friend of mine who is very into the Cīs,
has studied the original transcripts in depth
(which he got from your website, VB). He too was booted off the casschat list, for daring to have his own
ideas which were different from Lauraīs and the
other listmembers. Anyways, he said that Laura often messed with the transcripts precisely because what they said was not at all flattering
to her.
Just another piece of the puzzle... |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 6:53 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
The C´s are smart, and subtle
They used to be, when Fred was there.... |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 7:42 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Seems like a play on two
other titles: Pomp and Circumstance, and
Crime and Punishment.
LOL, I thought that too... :O) |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 7:46 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
He too was booted off the casschat list, for daring to have his own
ideas which were different from Laura´s and the
other listmembers.
thing is, at any point in time I bet there are a high percentage of the Cass list folks that are wavering, and many would like to speak up - but of course they cannot, because they see Ark on a daily basis bully all and sundry ... they donīt want quantity, they want, per one of my posts exposing the MK bully tactics
COLINEARITY
(i.e. do it my way) |
| StormBear
User ID: 9894
7/19/2005 7:51 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Here is an example of how minor edits in the Cass Transcripts, yields different meanings. Subtle, but important. But please feel free to decide on your own.
As posted on...
[link to cassiopaea.org]
January 14, 1995
Q: (L) Now, I want to ask about these KRLL documents that Sally has told me about and is sending. Tell us what is the background and validity of the KRLL papers. Terry knows more about them than I do. Supposedly it is some kind of exposition written by an alien being revealing the government conspiracy. Were the KRLL papers valid? (T) KRLL was supposedly a prisoner of the United States. (L) Was there really such a being as KRLL?
A: Semi.
Q: (T) Is there any validity to the KRLL papers?
A: Semi.
Q: (T) Was it dictated by this alien being?
A: Maybe.
Q: (T) Was it put together by a human?
A: Semi.
Q: (T) Is this in the same area of UFO lore as the Cooper and Lear and Lazar and Bennewitz stuff?
A: We have told you many times... Laura, pay attention... Listen!
Q: (L) Well, you say "semi." Semi means half-way. Is it half true or half-way true?
A: Whoa! Calm down! Patience! We are trying to tell you something important, and you keep asking questions. We have told you many times to communicate with each other and network and share ideas, because that is how you LEARN and PROGRESS! But, you are beginning to rely on us for all your answers, and you do not LEARN that way!!!!!!! Now, try this, you will be thunderstruck with the results: Each of you has stored within you unlimited amounts of factual and "Earthshaking" information. This information was put into your consciousness in order for you to retrieve it in order for you to learn. Now just start by holding a discussion about the last series of questions you were trying to ask us, and "let it flow."
Q: (L) Well, if John Lear and William Cooper are saying basically the same thing the KRLL document is saying, where did they get their information?
(T) One of the rumors going on was that Moore or Lear or Bennewitz, one of these, was the one that had written the KRLL papers. There was some talk that KRLL may have been an acronymn used by the government to identify this being who gave the information which is the basis of this document.
(L) To your knowledge, would Lear or Cooper ever have been in a position, or did they ever at any time claim to have been in a position, to observe any of this activity written up in this document themselves?
(T) I donīt believe that either of them have ever claimed to have been in a position to have physically observed any of this or to have been in the underground bases. They were working with information they claimed to have gotten from other sources.
(L) And what do they claim their other sources are? Unnamed?
(T) A lot of them are unnamed. Moore and Cooper claim they have inside government sources. I believe Cooper is the one who claims that he at one time worked for the military.
(L) Is he the one who claims that he was the intelligence analyst for the Admiral of the Pacific Fleet or something like that?
(T) Yes. There are several versions of the Cooper papers as he modifies and updates them. He didnīt change anything really, he just cleaned them up, re-edited them and added to them.
(L) Okay, if this is the case, it would seem to me that a person would have a much better chance of having something believed if they presented it as coming from a human source who either observed or saw it. Why would they say that this is an alien dictating this when that is so far and away more unbelievable? It seems to me that if they were making it up they would have far better chance if they said a human extracted this information rather than that it is what the alien said. That would almost tend, in a backward sort of way, to make you think that maybe this KRLL dude, maybe it was true. But, the only thing about that is, if it was an alien, especially if it was an STS alien, how much of it was true? Thatīs the question.
(T) Well, KRLL was supposed to be one of the standard Grays.
(L) Well, then, maybe we canīt rely on anything he says. We can rely on the fact that it is possible that it was an alien who gave this information, but if it was one of the standard Grays, then we have been informed as to who and what they are and we have to look at the information itself as being unreliable, not necessarily the human who revealed the scenario.
(F) Well, it is not necessarily unreliable even if it is an STS source.
(L) Yes, but as STS they would undoubtedly only give information that would tend to service their position.
(F) That would seem to be the case if you look at it from the obvious angle. But, that is not necessarily true. Just because it is an STS alien, and, in fact, a cybergenetic being, that does not mean that the information is necessarily inaccurate for several reasons. For those of us who have reached a certain level of understanding, our first assumption would be that it is inaccurate, so it could be a reverse psychology ploy. Give accurate information, get those who are at a higher level of understanding to think itīs inaccurate, when in actuality it is accurate.
(L) Well, do you know what it said? From what Sally tells me, it says, basically, what we have been getting from the Cassiopaeans.
(F) Well, then it is accurate.
(L) We canīt make that assumption!
(T) If this is a standard cybergenetic Gray, the question is how much biological is he? Is he biological enough to pass a dissection?
(L) Sure, I think. There are reports of autopsies of these guys, they just canīt figure out how they feed because they are reported to have dead-end alimentary canals.
(F) They are cybergenetic, but they look and function exactly like a biological being. If you go inside of them you will find blood and fibers and tissue and microscopic evidence...
(L) The microscopic exams, from what I have heard, reveal that theyīre more in the line of a plant...
(T) Yes.
(F) Which, of course, would indicate that they have been grown!
(L) Yes. Imagine chromosomal linking of human genetic information with that of the plant kingdom.
(T) You could literally grow hundreds of them easily.
(L) And plant them like seeds... and, apparently that is what they have done. People have come back who have been taken to these ships and have seen walls of containers growing these things. Like a room in a hot house.
(F) Well, there you go. We have gotten information which indicates that the Grays have access to both dimensions because they are probes of the Lizzies. And this gives us a further clue as to what a strange place 4th level is if such "probes" can be grown like plants! And, what level must fully souled 4th density beings be when we are fooled into believing their cybergenetic constructions are the "real thing!"
(T) Does this mean that the abilities of the Lizzies, since they have to create "probes" to enter our density, would not be any more advanced than, say, your everyday spirit? Without the Grays, would they be able to interact with us at all?
(F) Yes.
(L) Yes, they are, they have, they will and they do from all reports I have studied.
(F) But, there are several problems. One is their appearance is very, very alarming...
(J) They would garner a lot of attention if they walked down the street.
(T) It depends on how they dress themselves!
(L) They can shape-shift.
(F) They can shape-shift, but only for a limited period of time.
(L) Because it takes 3rd density energy to do that.
(F) That brings up something, when we were talking to Susy on the phone the other night, Susy and Barry mentioned the Men In Black. The response said that the Men In Black were "Lizard beings." In many reports of Men In Black, they have been described as very strange in numerous ways. Their voices have been described as sounding like they come from an echo chamber, and...
(T) Well, when we asked about the Men in Black in one of the sessions, what did the Cassiopaeans say? That they are "Projections."
(J) Exactly, maybe that is a clue, maybe that is how they come into our reality: as projections from 4th into 3rd.
(F) But, there is one case that always sticks in my mind, and it took place relatively recently, on April 28, 1978, a guy in Maine who had been doing UFO research, was accosted by a single Man in Black. He said the guy was very strange in many ways. He had pink... his face looked like it was covered with make-up, and, in fact, when he touched himself at one point and his face started to smear as if it was completely covered. And then, he suddenly got up and said: "Have to go now... run-n-n-ing out of e- ner-gy." Then he walked out of the house and staggered down the drive. They guy said that at that point he became somewhat disoriented as he watched the Man in Black start to stagger....
(L) He was not the Energizer Bunny! [laughter]
(F) And then the man saw a light that he at first thought was the headlight of a car, but the Man in Black walked into the light and was gone.
(J) Projections! Thatīs how they move from 4th to 3rd.
(L) They said they project as a "triage." Remember. It was something like travel in space/time.
(T) Well, we have gotten off the discussion of KRLL, but we have certainly been led into some pretty amazing conclusions about 4th level.
(F) All of what we have worked with over the years, the ideas of it being a nuts and bolts phenomenon, which I originally thought too, and itīs clear if one has been following the whole phenomenon closely, it has evolved, actually, from a nuts-and-bolts perspective, and I am not knocking nuts-and-bolts, but those who are really looking with an open mind are seeing that this is far more.
(L) Alright, here it is guys... [had been looking for references to Men In Black] ...
Q:Who or what are the Men in Black?
A: Lizard Projections.
(T) We got on to that because we were asking about the projection of the guy in the Camaro that showed up in my driveway.
Q: Does this mean that the Lizards are just projecting an image of a being?
A: Yes.
Q: The MIBs are not real in our physical terms?
A: Partly correct. You do not understand technology but we will describe it if you like. First we must explain further "time travel" because the two concepts are closely related. The first step is to artificially induce an electro-magnetic field. This opens the door between dimensions of reality. Next, thoughts must be channeled by participant in order to access reality bonding channel. They must then focus the energy to the proper dimensional bridge, the electrons must be arranged in correct frequency wave, and then the triage must be sent through realm curtain in order to balance perceptions at all density levels. Triage is as follows: 1. Matter; 2. Energy; 3. Perception of reality.
(L) In other words they send through...
(J) Holographic images.
(T) They transmit energy that takes matter here and creates what we perceive, and what we perceive depends on...
(L) It is like doing a back-flip through the realm curtain.
(T) And what the individual sees depends upon what they expect to see, which the Lizzies have to tap into first before they do the triage... that is the "reality bonding channel." If you are open to see Men in Black, even if you donīt know what they are, then at some level of consciousness...
(F) But I think this is not just limited to Men In Black.
(L) Listen to this! [reads from transcript]
Q: Several times I have heard references to big rectangular boxes, I would like to know who these belong to?"
A: Lizard projections...
(L) What are they doing, projecting their whole damn reality into our world?
(F) Well, apparently part of the whole process of going from 4th density to 3rd density is the "projection" process itself. This also, of course, explains much of what we have read and heard about in terms of higher phenomena. You cannot ground it at all. So many people have fallen off the track by expecting to capture metallic craft and dissect them, and, while that does happen... That is where material science falls apart. It is stuck in a vicious cycle.
(J) Yes, and it is using itīs own rules to make itself obsolete!
(F) Right!
(T) So, the bottom line is, we have simply gone beyond the KRLL stuff, the Cooper and Lear stuff, and so on.
(F) Which is one of the reasons why the Cassiopaeans keep telling us to stop asking these stupid questions.
(T) We donīt need to go into all that.
(F) Yes, thatīs "UFOīs 101."
(T) Thereīs another thing that is even more interesting and that is that we are not alone in this density, there are other beings on other planets also. And, it just may be that some of them are coming here just to throw some more stuff in the soup to keep us confused as to which or who is what.
(F) I have a feeling, though, that probably, everything that we have experienced in the UFO area over the many years is a passage from higher levels of density to this one. I donīt think that we have ever experienced a 3rd to 3rd transfer. That is just my feeling. And, it is only just now that people are beginning to realize that. In other words...
(T) Well, that is what Vallee thinks, along those lines, so he is just looking at interdimensional, because...
(F) But Vallee is also a material scientist so he is examining it in a scientific way. He is a little more open-minded than some who would just say it is impossible because we havenīt discovered it yet... But, he is doing it in a very careful way.
(L) Well, have we done enough with KRLL?
(T) Yeah, I think we have done more than enough with KRLL.
As channeled by Fred Irland (full session)...
January 14, 1995
Q: (L) Now, I want to ask about these Krill documents that Sally has told me about and is sending. Tell us what is the background and validity of the Krill papers. Terry knows more about them than I do. Supposedly it is some kind of exposition written by an alien being revealing the government conspiracy. Were the Krill papers valid?
(T) Krill was supposedly a prisoner of the United States.
(L) Was there really such a being as Krill?
A: Semi.
Q: (T) Is there any validity to the Krill papers?
A: Semi.
Q: (T) Was it dictated by this alien being?
A: Maybe.
Q: (T) Was it put together by a human?
A: Semi.
Q: (T) Is this in the same area of UFO lore as the Cooper and Lear and Lazar and Bennewitz stuff?
A: We have told you many times... Laura, pay attention... Listen!
Q: (L) Well, you say semi. Semi means half-way. Is it half true or half-way true?
A: Whoa! Calm down! Patience, my love!
Q: (T) Should we put about the same amount of validity whe have in the other UFO documents?
A: Stop now!!!!
Q: (L) Is this an area we canīt talk about now because it is too delicate?
A: No!!!!!
Q: (F) What the H is going on?
A: We are trying to tell you something important, and you keep asking questions. Now, please, silence for a moment!!!! We have told you many times to communicate with each other and network and share ideas, because that is how you LEARN and PROGRESS! But, you are beginning to rely on us for all your answers, and you do not LEARN that way!!!!!!! Now, try this, you will be thunderstruck with the results: Each of you has stored within you unlimited amounts of factual and "Earthshaking" information. This information was put into your consciousness in order for you to retrieve it in order for you to learn. Now just start by holding a discussion about the last series of questions you were trying to ask us, and "let it flow."
Q: (T) I have a question for you Laura, does that feel weaker? [Tom is giving Reiki to Lauraīs neck]
(L) Well, itīs not hot like it used to be, and I am just wondering, since you took the second attunements from Jim G... letīs just ask... Is Tomīs Reiki cancelled by Jim Gīs. initiation?
A: Faltering.
Q: (L) But he had good Reiki to begin with and it will be okay for me right now?
A: Open. At this point the group reviewed the comments that had been made regarding several persons prominently involved in UFO research who had also been involved or quoted in the Krill document. This gave us a starting point in evaluating the material. The reader may wish to recall said comments from earlier sections. Don Ware was brought up because he was also mentioned, though he had not been involved in the Krill papers and the following exchange occurred:
Q: (L) Who is Don Ware. I asked about him because John gave me a list of names.
(T) Okay Don Ware used to be the Regional MUFON director over the East Coast, and he got run out because he was moving into the metaphysical side of the phenomenon and MUFON is a nuts and bolts operation. They donīt want to hear this kind of stuff at all.
(F) I know they donīt because they are looking strictly at it as...
(T) They are trying to get scientific credibility...
(F) Well, yes, and they want a UFO to land that you can go up to and take a hammer and go Plink, plink, plink! Itīs Here!
(T) They want to know where the aliens are from, what they are up to, what kind of propulsion systems they use, how they build them, which... I have reached the opinion that MUFON is the continuation of Project Bluebook. When they closed Project Bluebook, they went out and subverted the UFO groups starting with NICAP and APRO and MUFON is one of the latest of the groups that changes from one type of group to another and all the information that is gathered in the field, goes to Texas and there it disappears and no one ever hears about it again. The Black Hole of Texas.
(L) So, in other words, if John Lear and William Cooper are getting the Cassiopaean Seal of Approval, and they are saying basically the same thing the Krill document is saying, where did they get their information?
(T) One of the thoughts on that was Moore or Lear or Bennewitz, one of these, was the one that had written the Krill papers. There was some talk that Krill may have been an acronymn used by the government to identify this being who gave the information which is the basis of this document.
(L) To your knowledge, would Lear or Cooper ever have been in a position, or did they ever at any time claim to have been in a position, to observe any of this activity written up in this document themselves?
(T) I donīt believe that either of them have ever claimed to have been in a position to have physically observed any of this or to have been in the underground bases. They were working with information they claimed to have gotten from other sources.
(L) And what do they claim their other sources are, unnamed?
(T) A lot of them are unnamed. Moore and Cooper claim they have inside government sources. I believe Cooper is the one who claims that he at one time worked for the military. In fact he was Air Force, I believe.
(L) Is he the one who claims that he was the intelligence analyst for the Admiral of the Pacific Fleet?
(T) Yes. There are several versions of the Cooper papers as he modifies and updates them. He didnīt change anything really, he just cleaned them up, re-edited them and added to them.
(L) Okay, if this is the case, it would seem to me that a person would have a much better chance of having something believed if they presented it as coming from a human source who either observed or saw it. Why would they say that this is an alien dictating this when that is so far and away more unbelievable? It seems to me that if they were making it up they would have far better chance if they said a human extracted this information rather than that it is what the alien said. That would almost tend, in a backward sort of way, to make you think that maybe this Krill dude, maybe it was true. But, the only thing about that is, if it was an alien, especially if it was an STS alien, how much of it was true? Thatīs the question.
(T) Well, Krill was supposed to be one of the standard Grays.
(L) Well, then, we canīt rely on anything he says. We can rely on the fact that it is possible that it was an alien who gave this information, but if it was one of the standard Grays, then we know who and what they are and we have to look at the information itself as being unreliable, not necessarily the human who revealed the scenario.
(F) Well, it is not necessarily unreliable even if it is an STS source.
(L) Yes, but as STS they would undoubtedly only give information that would tend to service their position.
(F) That would seem to be the case if you look at it from the obvious angle. But, that is not necessarily true. Just because it is an STS alien, and, in fact, a cybergenetic being, that does not mean that the information is necessarily inaccurate for several reasons. For those of us who have reached a certain level of understanding, our first assumption would be that it is inaccurate, so it could be a reverse psychology ploy. Give accurate information, get those who are at a higher level of understanding to think itīs inaccurate, when in actuality it is accurate.
(L) Well, do you know what it said? It says, basically, what we have been getting.
(F) Well, then it is accurate.
(T) If this is a standard cybergenetic Gray, the question is how much biological is he? Is he biological enough to pass a dissection?
(L) Sure, absolutely. There are reports of autopsies of these guys, they just canīt figure out how they feed.
(F) They are cybergenetic, but they look and function exactly like a biological being. If you go inside of them you will find blood and fibers and tissue and microscopic evidence...
(L) The microscopic exams, from what I have heard, reveal that theyīre more in the line of a plant...
(T) Yes.
(F) Which, of course, would indicate that they have been grown!
(L) Yes. Imagine chromosomal linking of human genetic information with that of the plant kingdom.
(T) You could literally grow hundreds of them easily.
(L) And plant them like seeds... and, apparently that is what they have done. People have come back who have been taken to these ships and have seen walls of containers growing these things. Like a room in a hot house.
(F) Well, there you go. We have gotten information which indicates that the Grays have access to both dimensions because they are probes of the Lizzies. And this gives us a further clue as to what a strange place 4th level is if such "probes" can be grown like plants! And, what level must fully souled 4d beings be when we are fooled into believing their cybergenetic constructions are the "real thing!"
(T) Does this mean that the abilities of the Lizzies, since they have to create "probes" to enter our density, would not be any more advanced than, say, your everyday spirit? Without the Grays, would they be able to interact with us at all?
(F) Yes.
(L) Yes, they are, they have, they will and they do.
(F) But, there are several problems. One is their appearance is very, very alarming...
(J) They would garner a lot of attention if they walked down the street.
(T) It depends on how they dress themselves.
(L) They can shape-shift.
(F) They can shape-shift, but only for a limited period of time.
(L) Because it takes 3rd density energy to do that.
(F) That brings up something, when we were talking to Susy on the phone the other night, Susy and Barry mentioned the Men In Black. The response said that the Men In Black were "Lizard beings." In many reports of Men In Black, they have been described as very strange in numerous ways. Their voices have been described as sounding like they come from an echo chamber, and...
(T) Well, when we asked about the Men in Black in one of the sessions, what did the Cassiopaeans say? That they are "Projections."
(J) Exactly, maybe that is a clue, maybe that is how they come into our reality: as projections from 4th into 3rd.
(F) But, there is one case that always sticks in my mind, and it took place relatively recently, on April 28, 1978, a guy in Maine who had been doing UFO research, was accosted by a single Man in Black. He said the guy was very strange in many ways. He had pink... his face looked like it was covered with make-up, and, in fact, when he touched himself at one point and his face started to smear as if it was completely covered. And then, he suddenly got up and said: "Have to go now... run-n-n-ing out of e- ner-gy." Then he walked out of the house and staggered down the drive. They guy said that at that point he became somewhat disoriented as he watched the Man in Black start to stagger....
(L) He was not the Energizer Bunny! [laughter]
(F) And then the man saw a light that he at first thought was the headlight of a car, but the Man in Black walked into the light and was gone.
(J) Projections! Thatīs how they move from 4th to 3rd.
(L) They said they project as a "triage." Remember. It was something like travel in space/time.
(T) Well, we have gotten off the discussion of Krill, but we have certainly been led into some pretty amazing conclusions about 4th level.
(F) Maybe Krill is just Kaput, at this point.
(L) Who cares about Krill? We just use them and throw them away! [laughter]
(T) Thatīs what I was getting at... should we treat our standard UFO stuff... I mean, we are beyond that now...
(J) Yes, we are...
(T) with what we are working with here...
(F) All of what we have worked with over the years, the ideas of it being nuts and bolts, which I originally thought too, and itīs clear if one has been following the whole phenomenon closely, it has evolved, actually, from a nuts-and-bolts perspective, and I am not knocking nuts-and-bolts, but those who are really looking with an open mind are seeing that this is far more.
(L) Alright, here it is guys... [had been looking for references to Men In Black] ... Who or what are the Men in Black? Lizard Projections.
(T) We got on to that because we were asking about the projection of the guy in the Camaro that showed up in my driveway.
(L) Okay. Does this mean that the Lizards are just projecting an image of a being? And, the answer was "yes." At that point Terry asked: "The MIBs are not real in our physical terms?" And the answer: "Partly correct. You do not understand technology but we will describe it if you like. First we must explain further "time travel" because the two concepts are closely related. The first step is to artificially induce an electro-magnetic field. This opens the door between dimensions of reality. Next, thoughts must be channeled by participant in order to access reality bonding channel. They must then focus the energy to the proper dimensional bridge, the electrons must be arranged in correct frequency wave, and then the triage must be sent through realm curtain in order to balance perceptions at all density levels. Triage is as follows: 1. Matter; 2. Energy; 3. Perception of reality." In other words they send through...
(J) Holographic images.
(T) They transmit energy that takes matter here and creates what we perceive, and what we perceive depends on...
(L) No, no, no... I know what it is... the triage must be sent through... the triage is that the matter becomes energy which then becomes perception and when it hits the other side of the curtain, the perception reconverts to energy which then coagulates as matter... it is like doing a back-flip through the realm curtain.
(T) And what the individual sees depends upon what they expect to see, which the Lizzies have to tap into first before they do the triage... that is the "reality bonding channel." If you are open to see Men in Black, even if you donīt know what they are, then at some level of consciousness...
(F) But I think this is not just limited to Men In Black.
(L) Listen to this! "Several times I have heard references to big rectangular boxes, I would like to know who these belong to?" And the answer was: "Lizard projections..." What are they doing, projecting their whole damn reality into our world?
(F) Well, apparently part of the whole process of going from 4th to 3rd is the "projection" process itself.
(T) Yes, you have to move backward somehow.
(F) This also, of course, explains much of what we have read and heard about in terms of higher phenomena. You cannot ground it at all. So many people have fallen off the track by expecting to capture metallic craft and dissect them, and, while that does happen...
(J) And the whole concept of whatīs wrong with science now is that they canīt hold it or measure it, or see it physically because it doesnīt exist!
(F) That is where material science falls apart. It is stuck in a vicious cycle.
(J) Yes, and it is using itīs own rules to make itself obsolete!
(F) Right!
(T) So, the bottom line is, we have simply gone beyond the Krill stuff, the Cooper and Lear stuff, and so on.
(F) Which is one of the reasons why the Cassiopaeans keep telling us to stop asking these stupid questions.
(T) We donīt need to go into all that.
(F) Yes, thatīs UFOīs 101.
(J) Yeah, right, weīve moved beyond all that. My God! Listen guys, let me tell you something I just noticed. When I was at work about three or four weeks ago, I had a desk drawer that wouldnīt work, and I was yanking and yanking on it to get it to open. I finally yanked on it and this clipboard fell out. I decided to take it home and use it. Look what it says on the clipboard! Service!
(T) Thereīs another thing that is even more interesting and that is that we are not alone in this density, there are other beings on other planets also. And, it just may be that some of them are coming here just to throw some more stuff in the soup to keep us confused as to which or who is what.
(F) I have a feeling, though, that probably, everything that we have experienced in the UFO area over the many years is a passage from higher levels of density to this one. I donīt think that we have ever experienced a 3rd to 3rd transfer. That is just my feeling. And, it is only just now that people are beginning to realize that. In other words...
(T) Well, that is what Vallee thinks, along those lines, so he is just looking at interdimensional, because...
(F) But Vallee is also a material scientist so he is examining it in a scientific way. He is a little more open-minded than some who would just say it is impossible because we havenīt discovered it yet...
(J) Yeah, our name isnīt on it so it doesnīt exist...
(F) But, he is doing it in a very careful way.
(L) Well, have we done enough with Krill?
(T) Yeah, I think we have done more than enough with Krill.
(L) Krill is irrelevant. I think we need to be more careful about our questions. |
| kris
User ID: 13343
7/19/2005 8:14 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 8:21 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Thanks Kris, Stormy! Val V is quite an enigma, as are the above... |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 8:26 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Stormy
What will make it abundantly clear for folks is some sort of excel spreadsheet type deal which has 2 columns
on the left is Laura´s massaged crapola, adjacent to it on the right are the unedited original and true transcripts
it will then be VERY easy to see the fraud and duplicity
just a thought
could even highlight the differences in yellow?
each line is numbered and q´s and a´s have their own boxes...
any techie types that can do that?
would be a good project to punch the above in... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10118
7/19/2005 8:47 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Infinitea
User ID: 15916
7/19/2005 9:46 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Thatīs a lot to read, I think Andersī suggestion
is a good one.
Um, Anders, re what you said before about the Cīs only being smart and subtle through Fred Irland--
they didnīt make that smart and subtle title suggestion thru Fred, did they? I"m not questioning Fredīs channeling abilities, just the
prevailing idea that all the Cīs channeling since then is disinfo.
Or if it is--disinfo is mixed with truth, right?
This is good practice in developing discernment.
We donīt develop that from being spoon-fed info,
as the Cīs said to Laura in that channeling. That was funny, I could really hear their frustration with her.
In fact, I like it so much Iīm going to paste it in here, but first, would like to call attention to the following
from the Cīs:
We have told you many times to communicate with each other and network and share ideas, because that is how you LEARN and PROGRESS!
I: And isnīt that exactly what weīre doing here? The Cīs must be so proud of us
Q: (L) Now, I want to ask about these Krill documents that Sally has told me about and is sending. Tell us what is the background and validity of the Krill papers. Terry knows more about them than I do. Supposedly it is some kind of exposition written by an alien being revealing the government conspiracy. Were the Krill papers valid?
(T) Krill was supposedly a prisoner of the United States.
(L) Was there really such a being as Krill?
A: Semi.
Q: (T) Is there any validity to the Krill papers?
A: Semi.
Q: (T) Was it dictated by this alien being?
A: Maybe.
Q: (T) Was it put together by a human?
A: Semi.
Q: (T) Is this in the same area of UFO lore as the Cooper and Lear and Lazar and Bennewitz stuff?
A: We have told you many times... Laura, pay attention... Listen!
Q: (L) Well, you say semi. Semi means half-way. Is it half true or half-way true?
A: Whoa! Calm down! Patience, my love!
Q: (T) Should we put about the same amount of validity we have in the other UFO documents?
A: Stop now!!!!
Q: (L) Is this an area we can´t talk about now because it is too delicate?
A: No!!!!!
Q: (F) What the H is going on?
A: We are trying to tell you something important, and you keep asking questions. Now, please, silence for a moment!!!! We have told you many times to communicate with each other and network and share ideas, because that is how you LEARN and PROGRESS! But, you are beginning to rely on us for all your answers, and you do not LEARN that way!!!!!!! Now, try this, you will be thunderstruck with the results: Each of you has stored within you unlimited amounts of factual and "Earthshaking" information. This information was put into your consciousness in order for you to retrieve it in order for you to learn. Now just start by holding a discussion about the last series of questions you were trying to ask us, and "let it flow." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16208
7/19/2005 9:49 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
CAN YOU CAHANNEL THE WINNING NUMBERS FOR THE TEXAS LOTTO?
IF THEY CANNOT SEE IN THE FUTURE OR TRAVEL IN TO THE FUTURE I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CHANNELING. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 9:54 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
iNFINITEA - i AM GLAD YOU ARE ON BOARD - I GOTTA HIT THE HAY - V GOOD THOUGHTS, yES ONE NEEDS DISCERBMENT - BUT THE TROUBLE IS EAC-DAMMIT CAPS LOck off is saddled with different influences, as is the way it should be... so oneīs discernment is clouded by a gazillion factors, not least of which is metaphysical reading...
And when Laura boasts she has read 10,000 books, - well, I think you get the picture...
more laters :O) |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11577
7/19/2005 9:57 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
CAN YOU CAHANNEL THE WINNING NUMBERS FOR THE TEXAS LOTTO?
IF THEY CANNOT SEE IN THE FUTURE OR TRAVEL IN TO THE FUTURE I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CHANNELING.
the laughable thing was the Cass list had a lottery group, and we played all the superballs and whatnot for years and never won a damn thing...
(or nobody told me about my winning lottery ticket, Laura has previous for doing that to her own mother) |
| StormBear
User ID: 9894
7/19/2005 10:19 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Here is a link to a rough comparison...
[link to cassiopaeacult.com] |
| StormBear
User ID: 9894
7/19/2005 10:22 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
reposting for a brief test...
Here is a link to a rough comparison...
<a href=" [link to cassiopaeacult.com] |
| StormBear
User ID: 9894
7/19/2005 10:23 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Oh well... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10118
7/19/2005 11:07 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| OPie
User ID: 16210
7/19/2005 11:50 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Great job, Stormy. The changes are indeed very subtle, but those subtle changes can completely change what is being said. Laura doesnīt seem to like being yelled at by the Cīs, does she?
Bump |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6047
7/20/2005 12:41 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
hi to all with thanks for thoughtful work
there were two things that puzzled me
for a long time, these were in
connection with ufo dolan book
and in the
transcripts
re the contributions of T and J
T and J i think were dedicated ufo inquiry
people who often participated w fred + laura
in earlier days
they were not so visible later on after
a certain point
and then when T eventually did come back to participate
he was told he had lost frequency resonance
or a similar term
so he was gone, and his contributions
apparently ended or werenīt sought any more
then when
richard dolanīs survey book of ufo 101
appeared, to lauraīs strong recommendation,
i found this to be a fine book
if one had never read a ufo book before and
if one
believed that james forrestal, first u.s. secretary of defense, walked out of an upper
story window at bethesda naval hospital
on his own recognizance...
in other words, Tīs contributions were
apparently no longer wanted,
but dolan work was praised
even though he takes the īcase closedī
approach to one of the enduring mysteries
of government work.
the position on forrestal being for me
a good test of the reliability of the researcherīs independence
so now anders finds that murky group of rich
people who might incidentally include some
who donīt want certain lines of inquiry
followed too close.
perhaps Tīs approach didnīt fit with the new program, but dolanīs book did. |
| kris/nli
User ID: 6047
7/20/2005 12:44 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
that was my post above, sometimes
i get logged out without noticing
for taking too long to write stuff
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| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 15879
7/20/2005 1:02 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
then when
richard dolan´s survey book of ufo 101
appeared, to laura´s strong recommendation,
i found this to be a fine book
if one had never read a ufo book before and
if one
believed that james forrestal, first u.s. secretary of defense, walked out of an upper
story window at bethesda naval hospital
on his own recognizance...
in other words, T´s contributions were
apparently no longer wanted,
but dolan work was praised
even though he takes the ´case closed´
approach to one of the enduring mysteries
of government work.
the position on forrestal being for me
a good test of the reliability of the researcher´s independence
so now anders finds that murky group of rich
people who might incidentally include some
who don´t want certain lines of inquiry
followed too close.
perhaps T´s approach didn´t fit with the new program, but dolan´s book did.
V: It took me a while to realize that LKJīs sudden interest in Dolan was connected to the larger vacuum cleaner operation, but as Andy has demonstrated, theyīre all as thick as thieves... Literally...
VB |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 15879
7/20/2005 1:13 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Just to give us a bump, and because someone asked about my spiritual perspective these days, hereīs an essay I wrote back in 2003:
Turning the Wheel
I became a Buddhist while sitting on a bus in the middle of a tiny almost nameless Indian village somewhere between New Delhi and Haradwar. Our bus driver had taken a wrong turn and arrived in the middle of a village just as a riot began to gather momentum. As the driver frantically honked at and almost pushed a sugar cane cart out of the way to turn down a side street and escape, my new age tour group and I sat there and watched, not fifty feet away, a snarling crowd of villagers become a howling mob, filled with bloodlust. At the center of the yelling crowd, two men stood toe to toe screaming insults. Suddenly, just as the bus lurched round the corner, one man grabbed a vicious hoe and ax combination and chopped the other in the throat. A bright red plume, steaming in the early morning of an Indian autumn, geysered up and seemed to hang in the air. A young woman, perhaps the mans wife, sat frozen on her cart, her eyes, all that could be seen of her face behind her veil, enormous with sudden and unexpected suffering. We turned the corner, and as we drove away, barreling down the tiny street, the sounds of more violence, screams and cries and even a few shots, echoed after us.
Later, after we reached our ashram/hotel in Rishikesh, the reaction set in. I was overwhelmed with a sense of guilt. It wasnt the why didnt we do something kind of guilt, exactly, because there was nothing that could have been done, at that moment
And then it hit me. I felt responsible for the mans death. Something in me had not only allowed him to die, but had actually caused it. In this current life, I was not a violent person, but I knew it was in there. On the one occasion when my life was actually and directly threatened, I responded with maximum force. Something deep inside, some long forgotten memory was triggered, and the fellow threatening me with imminent evisceration suddenly found himself with a rupture, a broken right forearm and a shattered left kneecap. It happened in one smooth motion, and the cop who wrote up the report on the attempted mugging was sure that I had had martial arts training. I probably had, just not in this life
I pondered that long and hard. I knew what it was like to kill, and perhaps in some lives, hell a lot of lives, maybe all of them until recently, I had been a killer. The pain of that was intense, but as I sat on the balcony of that little ashram on the ganges, crying from this deep source of sorrow, I saw it was even worse. I had thought I was doing good, fighting for the right, the greater good
and all I had been doing, life after life, was simply the horrific act steaming plume and eyes the size of baseballs above a black shrieking abyss of a veil that I had witnessed that afternoon.
As I sat there, plunged into my version of hell, the sun sank lower and the shadows lengthened on the other side of the river. A Himalayan wolf pack trotted down the beach of the far shore, light shadows in the dusky gloom. The chants and drums of evening worshipped up river in Rishikesh floated like ancient aural incense down the sacred river. As I looked, there were small lights bobbing on the rivers current. At first one or two, then more and more. I got up and walked down to the river to see what they were.
They were small pyramid shaped rafts, filled with ashes and bones, leaves and flowers, and a small guttering candle in each one, all that remained of some being, some individual, now making their last journey down the great river to the sea.
There by the river, I had an epiphany: All that Lives is Holy: an unfulfilled life diminishes us all. With each death, a part of us all dies
I was responsible for that mans death, because I had lived many lives of violence and casually justified it as part of a nebulous good even now. His death was in me, because I believed that I had the right to say that any death was justified. He was dead tonight because I thought I knew, on some moral level, the greater good that justified such horrors. His death was a small version of my own.
But life and the river go on. We cannot really die. Only life, and all that serves life, survives forever. The lights, so small, so frail when filled with samsaric remains, still find their way to the sea. The greater good cannot be served with death and suffering, and anything that increases this is not, in any way, a part of the greater good.
So, I became a Buddhist
Jefferson said it best: the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The liberty defined by that statement is the freedom to seek an end to suffering, happiness in its negative sense, in other words, the inalienable right to attain enlightenment, or release from suffering.
The Buddha was a politician, by birth and instinct, and then by skilful application of his enlightened insights. At the core of that insight was the belief that a single human consciousness could change the world, and conversely, that every consciousness had the world changing germ of enlightenment within it. The Truth, the way to end suffering, the Buddha realized, must be so simple, so obvious and timeless, that anyone who gets it can explain it to another no matter what the language or level sophistication involved.
So let me take a crack at the first turning of the wheel
All human existence is inextricably bound up with suffering. The cause of this suffering is desire. Not that we desire to suffer or to inflict suffering, but that our desire to be, do, shape and impose our self on our experience, creates, as a mathematical certainty, the end result of suffering. This is the Chinese finger puzzle of human existence: The more we desire, even enlightenment, the more suffering we create. The only way to stop suffering is to stop imposing our ego-selves on reality - that is, stop desire.
But, there is a way out of the trap. A state of consciousness is available through which reality can be apprehended without the side effects of the ego-state/desire created suffering. The Buddhas fourth and most radical Truth was that he had in fact discovered a path that led to that state of consciousness.
That Way is the eightfold path, which actually has three basic components, skilful living, skilful practice and skilful understanding. The Buddhas insight is that these techniques, properly applied, would indeed lead to a complete release from ego-self distortions and therefore the creation of suffering.
Skilful living includes what is called right speech, right action and right livelihood. Right speech is honesty and integrity, and the attempt to reduce suffering by means of speech, on all levels. I call it the kind word from strangers theory. Right action is obvious: do absolutely nothing that brings harm to anyone period. Right livelihood is simply dont make your living from people who do bring harm to others.
Skilful practice is the Buddhas version of yogic training in the cultivation of compassion. One must know how to practice, on what to practice and the goal of the practice in order to have skilful means and attain results. The result is a mind cleaned of ego-self desire and distortions, and which therefore apprehends reality on a more direct level. The basis of this connection is the innate compassion of all mind, for all life.
Skilful understanding supplies the key. This includes both an understanding of the theory and practice, and the correct understanding, or resolve, of why the release from suffering is necessary. This last is the motivating key. Individual release from suffering is good enough to start with, but ultimately, the only goal is release from suffering caused by ego-self distortion for all sentient beings in the universe.
Light and Liberty to all is the key. The Light is the compassion of mind for all life, the innate compassion in all of us that knows that one death diminishes us all, and Liberty is the absolute right of us all to the way out of the trap of ego-self delusion and endless suffering. These facts, these Truths, are indeed inalienable.
(8/6/03)
VB |
| kris/nli
User ID: 18561
7/20/2005 1:38 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
thanks vincent, a good reminder
good ideas
is a great thing to
attempt to practice
metta, loving kindness
and good will
with compassion
for all beings, to
nurture their capacity for
awakening
even if theyīre numberless |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 15879
7/20/2005 1:48 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
with compassion
for all beings, to
nurture their capacity for
awakening
V: Yep... And thatīs what pisses me off about all the "higher beings" pontficating, and people such as LKJ making money off it... None of it is nurturing anyoneīs capacity for enlightenment...
VB |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 15879
7/20/2005 1:58 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Interestingly enough, I got an email today from the C-cultīs first landlord with an update on the various suits going through the French courts...
(Note to the C-Cultists monitoring this: Yes, I have been in contact with lots of folks left in your wake across France...)
Seems that they have really gone nuts and are trying to sue him for libel. He has a team of lawyers ready, and has vowed to spend whatever it takes to put them in jail.
I sent him a link to this thread, and offered to make a translation, etc. of the significant parts...
I think we are having an effect...
VB |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11027
7/20/2005 7:43 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
 
BUMP!!!! |
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