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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10118
7/20/2005 9:07 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| anders
User ID: 11930
7/20/2005 9:20 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Seems that they have really gone nuts and are trying to sue him for libel. He has a team of lawyers ready, and has vowed to spend whatever it takes to put them in jail
LOL that´s rich - her French Connection series trashed the poor man for months on end, week in week out Laura would attack him.
I and my group keep see this coming a mile away, yet Laura is completely oblivious and has not an inkling as to her psychopathic behaviour.
But then, psychopaths never do.
LOL!!!
He cannot fail but to win the case - guaranteed.
If I was a foreigner in a foreign land I would not go around trashing the locals and pulling scams and not paying taxes - abusing hospitality is what it comes down to.
Bad form, bad manners, bad KARMA.
She´ll never learn. |
| anders
User ID: 11930
7/20/2005 9:24 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
[link to cassiopaeacult.com]
great work Stormy, this is exactly what I meant! |
| Infinitea
User ID: 14573
7/20/2005 11:58 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
V: Yep... And that´s what pisses me off about all the "higher beings" pontficating, and people such as LKJ making money off it... None of it is nurturing anyone´s capacity for enlightenment...
Were the C´s "pontificating" when they recommended the new title of "Crime and Circumstance" for Laura´s autobiography?
Were they "pontificating" when they told her in no uncertain terms to stop asking so many questions, and find the answers for herself??
You have issues with LKJ, and it´s perfectly understandable, but I don´t think it´s necessary to consign all of the C´s channeling to the dumpster.
As Abu writes at his Hermenutics site:
"Waking up to the actual nature of reality is not an easy process. If it were, there would have been no need for thousands of Prophets, saints, and spiritual guides down through the ages to try, each in her or his own way, to show us the potential pathways to essential identity and the realization of one´s spiritual capacity - a path that is hidden and, therefore, one which cannot be found on one´s own or without assistance ... but whose assistance should we trust to help us exercise our free will with respect to such issues?"
And in response to that last question, I would say, take what you can use from any of the plethora of available sources (including the C´s if you wish) and leave the rest!!
The C´s are trying in their own way to help, it´s not their fault the channel is doing her best to muck it up.
btw, thanks for the essay you shared with us, your sincerity comes through there. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10092
7/20/2005 12:16 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
<<V: Yep... And that´s what pisses me off about all the "higher beings" pontficating, and people such as LKJ making money off it... None of it is nurturing anyone´s capacity for enlightenment...>>
The latter sentence is your way of masking [unsuccessfully] your extreme jealousy of Laura Knight-Jadczyk. Do you agree or disagree? |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 11930
7/20/2005 12:54 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
And we scream towards the big 12,000 hits on this thread!
1000 hits a day!!!
"They´re on our left, they´re on our right, they´re in front of us, they´re behind us; they can´t get away this time!"
Must be the Castleopea CULT folks, folks!!!
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| Not Stupid
User ID: 8218
7/20/2005 2:44 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Well, well, here you are again, 12209. What is this? You swoop in once a day, ask an obviously weighted question, then go back to sleep? Why should anyone bother answering your questions, when you obviously don´t care to hear the answers. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16044
7/20/2005 3:03 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Re: Crime and Circumstance
It was me who wrote those four lines,
you will not find them in the transcripts.
It was meant as my comment to the situation at hand
and it was understood - at least the first (C&C) part.
The clue I left was apparently a bit too subtle:
the "&" character does not appear on a ouija board
and thus cannot be part of an answer (unless edited).
The second part relates to this very thread: P&P
Q: (L) Why do we never get a straight answer?
A: Because it is what you find that counts.
The C´s are not ´the cult´.. |
| Infinitea
User ID: 14573
7/20/2005 3:31 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Re: Crime and Circumstance
It was me who wrote those four lines,
you will not find them in the transcripts.
I: Ah! Clever of you...
It was meant as my comment to the situation at hand
and it was understood - at least the first (C&C) part.
I: I don´t follow...
The clue I left was apparently a bit too subtle:
the "&" character does not appear on a ouija board
and thus cannot be part of an answer (unless edited).
I: But they usually are edited.
The second part relates to this very thread: P&P
I: What is P & P? Pomp and Punishment?
Q: (L) Why do we never get a straight answer?
A: Because it is what you find that counts.
I: Is that yours, too?
The C´s are not ´the cult´..
I: Agree. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 4:02 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
It like the Cs started drinking from the crazy bucket.
Somehow I cannot quite see the early Cs espousing Mouravieff´s nazi eugenics about Organic Portals - that all came along after Ark arrived as far as I recall.
Talking about crazy people drinking from the crazy bucket - these two people are seekers, yet they have allowed themselves to swallow the pornography that Laura preaches...
Tom from montalk.net
and
Johnno from [link to zelator.topcities.com]
His Zelator page ... take a look at his book reccommendations here
[link to zelator.topcities.com]
and notice the old SWITCHEROO
Johnno in particular has been hugely influenced by Laura, his site is Cassiopaea this, Cassiopaea that - he would NEVER have reccommended Mouravieff´s crapola had it not been for the L´arks $oros/NWO agenda.
And why he reccommends Laura´s Amazing Grace with the likes of Ouspensky and Gurdjieff I´ll leave you to decide... |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 4:26 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Have you ever had this “nightmarish fantasy” that the world is populated by zombies ? Well, guess what, it isn’t a fantasy. Half the people out there are exactly that: “sophisticated automatons that pretend to be like you”.
from
Organic Portals – The “Other” Race...
[link to www.cassiopaea.org]
Classic CULT:
US against THEM... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10092
7/20/2005 5:04 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
<<As I have said before, I believe Fred Irland was the channel and not Laura. When Fred left, the transcipts stopped making sense. Immediately the transcipts started conflicting themselves when Laura was left by herself.
It like the Cs started drinking from the crazy bucket.>>
Please give examples, unless you want us all to just *believe* what you say. "The transcripts" stopped making sense when Fred left, as in the "whole transcripts"? Wow, it makes you wonder why Laura continues to channel then...
Here is a snippet from the last session in the exe file:
A: Life is religion.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: Life experiences reflect how one interacts with God. Those who are asleep are those of little faith in terms of their interaction with the creation. Some people think that the world exists for them to overcome or ignore or shut out. For those individuals, the worlds will cease. They will become exactly what they give to life. They will become merely a dream in the "past." People who pay strict attention to objective reality right and left, become the reality of the "Future."
This makes sense and Fred didn´t participate in this session; therefore, what you said is wrong. But we need EXAMPLES; as Gurdjieff said, "Verify!"
You will agree (if you have any sense) that your statements are very grand and sweeping, to the point of error. No?
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| Infinitea
User ID: 10640
7/20/2005 5:08 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Yeah, I had a problem with that OP thing, too.
However, reading through the Q & A in the most recent Tobias channel at crimsoncircle.com (a good source IMO) I was surprised to find a reference to non-
souled beings. They´re not called OP´s there,
and it´s not about "us vs. them", but there´s similarity in the descriptions of these people--the vacant look in the eyes.
Hey, who would have thought Abe Lincoln was a non-souled being? Now Hitler, that I can understand!
QUESTION FROM SHAUBMRA 6 (from the Internet, read by Linda): Tobias – or whomever may be giving us the honor today – in what practical way are non-souled beings here on Earth different from souled ones? Do they feel or perceive the world the same way as souled beings? Are they aware of the different kind of status? How do you know if you or anyone else are a souled or non-souled being? Before they die and you discover what… maybe they did not leave any bones behind? As you explained in the Wound of Isis, souls cannot permanently be melded together, or split up. And, then each and every one of us is actually a group of energies or entities, as surely must be non-souled beings?
TOBIAS: Indeed… non-souled beings are your creations that have been given life energy and essentially freedoms, but sometimes with great agendas placed around it. Non-souled beings are generally not aware that they are non-souled. As a matter of fact, they will fight all day long for the rights to say that they are souled beings.
Again, going back to our example: if you created a little statue out of clay… and you breathed your energy into it… and you bring it to life… it is your creation. You´ve given it freedom. But, it does not have a soul. It can never replicate what you did. It can never create another being. It can live unto itself with itself, but it can never re-create… you see. You are a Creator. What you create doesn´t have that same privilege or right that Spirit gave you.
However, that piece of, that statue that you created, that you brought to life, now will insist that it is a souled being. It will insist that it is a unique identity… you see. It will not understand what it truly is. But, ultimately it is just an aspect of you. It will even try to threaten you if you challenge it. It will even try to kill you to take your energy to prove that it is real. So, it’s some very interesting dynamics.
Some of the non-souled beings that we have spoken about in history include Abraham Lincoln who was a non-souled being from some of the last – how to say – the last inhabitants of Atlantis that knew that they wanted to create the new Atlantis at some time. But, there would be a division, and they would need a non-souled being, a representation of their consciousness to bring back together old wounds and old divisions. And, that is the role that Abraham Lincoln played, bringing back old divisions and old splits that had occurred in Atlantis.
Adolf Hitler, as we have said, is not a souled being. He does not exist in our realms. You could never find him here. He is a non-souled being, the creation of Hipuru or Jewish consciousness. And, he was created through the Jewish consciousness to help carry out a very fast and a very swift type of karma, a karma also related to Atlantis.
So, non-souled beings do not know they are non-souled. Non-souled beings tend to, as some of you have noticed, have a little bit of a vacant look in their eye. And, they don´t tend to go through the emotional swings that a souled being has. They tend to be somewhat immune to physical pain as well, not totally, but quite a bit because they don´t have the true inner awareness that a souled being has.
There are non-souled beings that are created from group consciousness. And, there are some non-souled beings that are created from individual consciousness. There is no – how to say – certain type of tattoo that they have (some laughter), or birthmark, or certain identifiable objects. And, quite a few of the non-souled beings do not leave behind any bones or any body. Some of them do; it depends on the circumstances, and it depends on how the physical body was co-created. It is not worth going into the details here.
But, if anything, you can sometimes see by what would appear to be a bit of a vacant or a glazed look in the eye. The eye would be the best way to tell. A souled being has a response in their eye. A souled being has life in their eyes. A non-souled being’s eyes are going to look similar to that of a person who is going to be crossing over soon… you see. The energy departs, and their eyes become a little glassy, and the life force goes out, even before a human dies, even before there is a quote-unquote “accident.” If you notice somebody´s eye luster – the life in the eyes – changes, that could mean that they are on their way out, even before they go. Thank you. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 5:10 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Wow, it makes you wonder why Laura continues to channel then...
Laura states that she NOW channels ´in her head´ and via automatic writing at the computer keyboard.
Don´t believe me? She said it herself at Cassiopaea.org
There are millions of inmates in mentals institutions that hear voices in their head.
The Cs have gone.
There are no more ouija board sessions that contact the original source. |
| Infinitea
User ID: 10640
7/20/2005 5:15 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
People who pay strict attention to objective reality right and left, become the reality of the "Future."
Do the C´s define "objective reality"? |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 5:17 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
This makes sense and Fred didn´t participate in this session; therefore, what you said is wrong. But we need EXAMPLES; as Gurdjieff said, "Verify!"
How do you know that was not cobbled together from any number of new age sources?
We have already proved that Laura alters transcripts at whim, that she has read 10k apposite books, and that she is a serial cheat and fraudster.
There is only one conclusion. |
| Infinitea
User ID: 10640
7/20/2005 5:17 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
There are no more ouija board sessions that contact the original source.
Ah, didn´t know that, thanks. Voices in her head, huh? That explains a lot. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 5:19 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Wow, it makes you wonder why Laura continues to channel then...
It is a cash cow and a means to live parasitically in France - the C site is now a franchise and is moving into book publishing, radio, rock music, podcasts for the pod people and etc etc
All of course FOR A PRICE
in direct contradiction to all spiritual principles |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10092
7/20/2005 5:31 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Yes Anders, but the question then is WHY? WHAT FOR? Do they live this secret life of materialistic luxury behind all of this research?
Remember this and it is essential: if the Alchemical Transformation is possible, if the Wave is a real phenomena and if Frequency Resonance Vibration is a real phenomena - then Laura, Ark and whoever else (if what you are saying it true) are GOING NOWHERE! They will be back around for another 300,000 years of lessons because they are still STS. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 5:37 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
12209
Bingo! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10092
7/20/2005 5:42 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
So now, I again ask WHY? WHAT FOR? Do they live this secret life of materialistic luxury behind all of this research?
INTENT? |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 5:47 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
then when
richard dolan´s survey book of ufo 101
appeared, to laura´s strong recommendation,
i found this to be a fine book
if one had never read a ufo book before and
if one
believed that james forrestal, first u.s. secretary of defense, walked out of an upper
story window at bethesda naval hospital
on his own recognizance...
I heard he was hit over the head with a hammer and then pushed out the window. Dunno if true, but all evidence points to the fact that he knew too much and he was pressing to go public with the UFO issue ... this all from memory, please correct me if I am wrong...
I´ve listened to Dolan on the Radio - bad vibes I get from this guy ... he is swamping the net as THE UFO expert, type his name in on google... |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 5:53 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
So now, I again ask WHY? WHAT FOR? Do they live this secret life of materialistic luxury behind all of this research?
WHAT research???
I don´t see a damn ORIGINAL thing.
Rehashes of Mouravieff´s pornography.
SOTT a daily Cass CULT filtered view of whatreallhappened.com
Rehashes and plagiarism tend to go hand in hand with Laura.
from Johnno´s website forum
Laura Knight Jadczyk at the Cassiopaea website is currently doing a chapter by chapter article called "Jupiter, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, and the Return of the Mongols". An excellent read and one to get the "salt burning" :-)
: : At the time of writing there are twelve chapters up which aren´t light reading and really get the grey matter working.
: YIKES!!!
: I have printed this off to read at my leisure in Word and it is still 139 pages. I shall begin today at lunch.
Yeah she can really churn it out when she gets going. How she ties all this stuff together always astounds me. :-)
See what I mean??? Nothing new, nothing ORIGINAL. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10092
7/20/2005 5:58 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Okay, so why plagiarise (which is published and paid for by readers) to plagiarise some more? |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 6:07 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Okay, so why plagiarise (which is published and paid for by readers) to plagiarise some more?
Because it´s easier to do that than work at writing NEW material? And who´s checking ... most authors are dead (Gurdjieff, Ouspensky, Castaneda, Cayce, dozens and dozens of esoteric writers), other chanellers can hardly sue because the source is dubious...
As VB and others know, Laura can churn out many thousands of words a day, can get into 10k or more, this can only be done with little critical thinking or CARE, and LOTS of REPETITION ... cutting and pasting stuff from the net etc etc |
| StormBear
User ID: 9894
7/20/2005 7:38 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
When was the last ouija session. Was that the famous mirror session Vincent was in on?
When did the automatic wordprocessing session start? |
| StormBear
User ID: 9894
7/20/2005 7:42 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I remember we were keeping track of Adventures in Cassiopaea and that thing weighed in at over 100,000 words when it was initially posted. I would estimate that more than 70% was cut and pasted from other sources and the rest seemed to be huge swaths of the transcripts (the redacted and falsified version). |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 7:45 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
When did the automatic wordprocessing session start?
I found that info on the Cass web site maybe a year +++ ago. I wrote to Vincent to apologise when it eventually clicked with me that I had been had. I dunno if Vincent got that letter. Anyhoos I think Vincent also spotted what I spotted and he wrote it up on his site.
I was AMAZED to see Laura´s admission.
I have since gone back to look for the piece at Cass but cannot find it.
Trust me Stormy - that is what she said.
She said something very similar in her Swerdlow thread, justifying why she feels entitled to mess with the original transcripts. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1870
7/20/2005 7:47 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I remember we were keeping track of Adventures in Cassiopaea and that thing weighed in at over 100,000 words when it was initially posted.
Precisely. Most novels now weigh in at 80,000 words... !!! |
| OPie
User ID: 45
7/20/2005 8:47 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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