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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 178
7/27/2005 1:32 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Vincent
You were asking about the dude that put together that slick 911 Pentagon Strike internet slideshow - he is a Brit, a duped minion, lives in Cornwall or Devon I think, and part of the ´in crowd´...
Just an FYI (wink)... |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 178
7/27/2005 2:28 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
12217
I would be very careful if I were you my friend
you are a Telewest customer and I will be writing to them with your ISP number to inform them that you are stalking me and writing my real name and where I live on a PRIVATE forum
you have no right to do that and are legally liable for any fallout
i now also know you are my pet STALKER from the paedophile thread last year, and on many other recent threads here at GLP
TELEWEST-HSD_1-**OWSLEY
I have blanked out the first 2 letters of your asshat location because i will not stoop to your level
try any more of your shit and suffer the consequences, that is if you are allowed to post anymore and are still a telewest customer |
| Infinitea
User ID: 889
7/27/2005 2:43 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
VB: If we apply the thought problem of Schrondinger´s Cat to the issue of SS´ dead children and the Cs wrong perception, we are missing the point. The dead children were not isolated from the observer defined probability stream. Their mother acted as the decaying particle and chose the reality. That event, that lifting of the box-lid, had already taken place in this quantum reality when the Cs were asked. Note that they didn´t say that in many worlds the children are both dead or alive, until their true fate is discovered, which is nonsensical enough, but they said that they were alive, at that moment in this reality, and gave a location. An interpretation might be that they were both alive and dead, in many worlds, until their mother decided to kill them in this one. Either way, quantum indetermancy can not be used to gloss over what is clearly and obviously a mistake.
I: I agree it would certainly have been more impressive if they had given the "right" answer.
But the general trend of the C´s messages were always more about fostering exploration and finding our own answers and understandings, rather than spoon-feeding information. Look how much exploration is taking place right now on the subject of this wrong prediction!
VB: Infinitea, you seem like a nice person, and you have some good insights.
I: Thanks! You seem like a good guy yourself, even if you did call me a "true believer."
VB: And yes, we live in a co-creative universe, just not at the quantum level. We don´t live there, can´t even understand it without higher mathematics.
I: Or higher intuition?
VB: In fact, one of the interpretations of Bell´s Theorem suggests that consciousness, as demonstrated by sub-atomic particles, may have nothing whatsoever to do with "mind." If protons and photons both demonstrate "awareness" at transluminal levels, then "reality" exists as part of the probability wave itself. Organic consciousness does not seem to be influencing sub-atomic awareness, but actually the influence goes the other way. As some one put it, It ain´t I think, therefore I am, but I am, therefore I think...
I: Or it´s all one thing, a hologram, wherein we go beyond cause and effect, beyond "therefore."
From Looking-Glass Universe, by John Briggs:
"In classical physics the observer was separated from the observed. They were separate
parts of the universe. With quantum mechanics, Heisenberg first barred the observer from certain aspects of what he observed
and then the Schrodinger cat problem excited some theorists to propose that the observer actually affects what is observed
by collapsing the wave function. Both these views subtly retain the classical idea that the observer is separate, though in
the second case he and what he observes are ´interacting.´ For Bohm such ideas completely distort and influence the role of
the observer and lead to confusion because they are fragmentary. For him, both observer and observed appear from the
same underlying indivisible process and flow into and out of each other like the stream through vortexes...the observer is not
causing the observed. They are both in a sense causing each other and being caused by the underlying whole movement.
By saying it this way we can see Bohm has changed the whole idea of causality from a chain of events to a complex picture
where effects and causes interweave with each other. Schrodinger´s cat dilemma dissolves in a completely new light where
decaying atoms, observers, wave functions and cat are intermingling orders all present in different degrees of enfoldment."
Each part of the hologram contains the whole. Each possibility/probablility is also holographic and contained within us.
The probability we experience is activated by our imaginings, feelings and beliefs, and the more intense they are, the faster and more intensely it is brought into our experience. |
| Infinitea
User ID: 889
7/27/2005 3:11 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Oh, and you still ducked the question about organic portals, and how Laura has presented at least TWO doctored versions of her pity those who pity BS.
Nice going.
Anders, it´s difficult to perceive the differences in the two without a lot of concentration and re-reading. Maybe you could present the two side by side, as was done previously with another transcript, with the doctoring marked in yellow or whatever.
No one else commented either, it´s a bit unfair to target Eileen and me, just because you don´t like our ideas about pity vs.compassion.
As for the idea of organic portals, I believe I´ve already said I don´t buy it.
As the Caterpillar said to Alice: "Keep your temper." |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 178
7/27/2005 3:19 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
You can easily see the differences in the 2 excerpts. I stand by what I said - look at the dictionary definition of pity that I supplied. It cannot be more plain how Laura has twisted the C responses to suit her organic portal pornography. She has clearly changed the preamble wording to questions asked at the ouija board, by quite a large margin. She has done this so often she has forgotten to sanitise everything to say the same thing on her bloviated site. Sorry if I caused any offence - all these anon cowards and veiled attacks seem to run into one another after a while. I take exception to people taking the piss out of me and I tend to fire back so you had better deal with it. |
| OPie
User ID: 3039
7/27/2005 3:26 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
The only cocker I know is Joe.
Precisely.
And Joe is a Brit, so he´s telling the truth there. But he is, in fact, living in France at the chateau and has been for quite a while. You can listen to him on the podcast, folks, and there are plenty of photos of him on the C site.
Joe, by the way, your mechanically cold answer to Karen on the C list was the last straw for me and was the reason I finally got the nerve to leave the group.
Here´s C group compassion: Karen was an older woman who had many, many medical problems which had cause her to age beyond her years. Because of that, she was living with her daughter and her family. She was terribly afraid that her daughter was planning to ship her off to a nursing home and forget about her (a very common fear among older persons). Joe´s response was that she´d be better off there. Period. Well, that shut her up. I contacted her privately to find out if she was okay; she wasn´t. She was very hurt and couldn´t figure out why he would respond like that. But I could. He wanted her to shut up. People on the C list aren´t allowed to have personal problems. If you talk about personal problems, you´re an OP and trying to divert the group.
However, prior to the Florida meeting, people often talked about personal issues, and they weren´t attacked for it. They found support and compassion. But that all ended after the Florida conference, and ended rather abruptly. Those who had been at the conference talked about how intense the energy had been. I´m sure that was true, but I don´t think they realized that the energy manifesting after that was dark and twisted and not at all human.
OSIT. |
| OPie
User ID: 3039
7/27/2005 3:40 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Anders, it´s difficult to perceive the differences in the two without a lot of concentration and re-reading.
The differences are staggering! You don´t have to concentrate at all to see them. In fact, it´s the most extreme doctoring I´ve seen her do yet.
I feel sorry for her brother (that´s Tom, folks). She´s obviously after her sister-in-law and wants Tom to get rid of her. Wonder what Tom´s wife did to deserve Laura´s attentions -- probably told him his sister was dishonest, conniving, and not to be trusted. Anders is right; she´s twisted it in the last version to the OP scenario (which didn´t exist when this was first channeled).
What´s really amusing to me is she´s so drastically changed the language. She obviously wanted to sound more high-toned and intellectual that she really sounds when she´s channeling.
Good one for Stormy ... |
| kris / nli
User ID: 1168
7/27/2005 3:42 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
what opie said, all of the above
and double
what anders said to the stalker
what vincent said too
eileen and infinitea, you both
seem like really nice people,
but u might want to start
a different thread. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1168
7/27/2005 3:47 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 178
7/27/2005 3:54 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I feel sorry for her brother (that´s Tom, folks). She´s obviously after her sister-in-law and wants Tom to get rid of her. Wonder what Tom´s wife did to deserve Laura´s attentions -- probably told him his sister was dishonest, conniving, and not to be trusted. Anders is right; she´s twisted it in the last version to the OP scenario (which didn´t exist when this was first channeled).
Right OPie, the original was transcribed in ´97 (5.3.97) and messed with ever since.
The organic pothole pornography came when Ark crawled out of his bunker (much later)...
Here are the various iterations and twists in the ´pity those who pity´ C mantra
check for yourself using this search string
check out the caches of each and see all the skullduggery
[link to www.google.com]
Oneness With God? by Laura Knight-Jadczyk
Can you comment on the nature of pity? A: Pity those who pity. Q: But, the ones
who are being pitied, who generate sensations of pity, do not really pity ...
www.cassiopaea.org/cass/oneness_with_god.htm - 40k - Cached - Similar pages
Adventures with Cassiopaea
... Support The Quantum Future School. Adventures With Cassiopaea. Chapter 35. ... Can
you comment on the nature of pity? A: Pity those who pity. ...
www.cassiopaea.org/cass/adventures302.htm - 52k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.cassiopaea.org ]
The Wave Series
... Who Are WE? Send your comments and suggestions to signs@cassiopaea.com. ... Can
you comment on the nature of pity? A: Pity those who pity. ...
cassiopaea.crystunix.com/cass/wave11f.htm - 101k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
Adventures with Cassiopaea
Can you comment on the nature of pity? A: Pity those who pity. ... "Cassiopaea,
Cassiopaean, Cassiopaeans," is a registered trademark of Arkadiusz Jadczyk ...
www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/adventures302.htm - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
The Wave Series
... The Future is OPEN, but it depends on Us! How you can help keep Cassiopaea online... ...
Can you comment on the nature of pity? A: Pity those who pity. ...
www.cassiopaea.com/cass/wave11f.htm - 101k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.cassiopaea.com ]
Signs of the Times - 2004-02-20
We often say "Pity those who pity," because they can be manipulated by the ...
In understanding that pity carries with it the notion of separateness from ...
signs-of-the-times.org/signs/signs401.htm - 153k - Cached - Similar pages |
| OPie
User ID: 3039
7/27/2005 3:54 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| I C the Light
User ID: 503
7/27/2005 6:19 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Was I mistaken, or did I notice Senior Signs of the Times Editor Henry See posting on this thread way back? Has he broken the umbilical cord, or was he just here to spread "No Bull"?
Or was I Seeing things? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 596
7/27/2005 7:06 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
*********************
I would be very careful if I were you my friend
you are a Telewest customer and I will be writing to them with your ISP number to inform them that you are stalking me and writing my real name and where I live on a PRIVATE forum
*********************
Where have I written where you live? Please provide the page number or the quotation. This is essential to validating what you claim. But you will note, that you are in fact in error.
Your "real name" is posted on Page 6 by a completely different user; in fact, it is within one of your posts. Perhaps the webmaster can also compare the IP address of that user, and compare it with mine. He/She will also note that they will be completely different.
Again Anders, you shoot yourself in the foot do you not? With your errors, assumptions and lies.
*********************
you have no right to do that and are legally liable for any fallout
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As I said to you earlier, if you do not want your real name on a forum, then contact the webmaster to remove it. It is still there as I type this.
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i now also know you are my pet STALKER from the paedophile thread last year, and on many other recent threads here at GLP
*********************
You don´t "know it", because it wasn´t me. I became aware of this thread (and this forum) around Page 5. The webmaster can verify this by looking through the internet logs. You should actually gather these essential FACTS before you start making these errors. Also, my ISP will be more than capable of checking whether I visited this forum EVER before.
By all means CHECK THESE FACTS, and then we´ll present the results on this forum for all to see.
*********************
I have blanked out the first 2 letters of your asshat location because i will not stoop to your level
*********************
So you are saying that I posted your [specific] location? Where is this? Please TELL ME, because I must have amnesia. I only said you lived in the UK - which is quite obvious in itself. That´s hardly giving your location away.
Wasn´t it YOU that told Vincent Bridges where the maker of the Pentagon Strike lived a couple of pages back? Yes you did.
Don´t psychopaths often accuse others of what they themselves are doing? Why yes they do...
*********************
try any more of your shit and suffer the consequences, that is if you are allowed to post anymore and are still a telewest customer
*********************
Things have become much clearer Anders, thank you. Thank you VERY much indeed...
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1686
7/27/2005 8:25 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Bump |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1686
7/27/2005 8:30 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
1) What is the name of the person who won the House Raffle? Please list a contact address or phone number.
2) Why hasn´t that person laid claim to your house?
2.a) Why did you SELL the ´raffled´ house to the Swanson family for $95,100?
proof of sale here
[link to appraiser.pascogov.com]
3) Why did you praise Weidner and Bridges work on Fulcanelli, then trash them by calling them psychopaths and then plagiarize their work?
4) Why did yourself in the future lie to yourself in the past and say that you were an alien from cassiopaea when you were really just yourself in the future?
5) How do you reconcile the fact that you channelled aliens from cassiopaea with Fred Ireland, but later discovered that he also was a psychopath.
6) If you are not really channelling aliens from Cassiopaea but are actually channelling yourself in the future, how come you yourself in the future didn´t warn you yourself in the past that your channelling partner, Fred Ireland, was a psychopath?
7) Why didn´t you yourself in the future warn you that Bridges was a psychopath?
8) Why did you change the transcripts of the cassiopaean sessions?
9) Do you really believe that your former husband is a robot?
As of yesterday she was answering emails at the following address so I know it still works.
Her personal email address is at:
lark@cassiopaea.org |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 152
7/27/2005 9:32 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Laura´s Preliminary Remarks on the Text
It has taken us a long time to publish the entire series of
Cassiopaean Transmission transcripts for many reasons, the main one
being that the material is so disorganized. When we initially began
posting them as they were, the readers wrote with so many questions
that we realized that the very methods we had used to "test" the source
had produced an editing nightmare. So, I began writing the Wave Series
and other series as a form of collecting excerpts together into general
subject themes. As I did this, a truly extraordinary thing began to
happen: I began to see "inside" some of the transcripts, and to learn
how to apply them by connecting the parts together with others that
were related due to context. What was even more startling was the fact
that, as I would ask a question about the subject at hand, the answer
would flow through my fingers onto the keyboard in a more or less
natural way. I was often as amazed at what came out as anyone. I asked
the C´s about it in the September 23rd, 2000 session, and here was what
they said:
Q: I have to say that the writing of this series has been one of the
most educational projects I have ever undertaken. Because, in the
writing, I have had to comb through the transcripts and have had to
explain it to other people and before I can do that, I have to explain
it to myself. It has become a profound mind expansion thing...
A: Good.
Q: It´s almost as much fun to be learning the things I am having to
assemble as if I were reading it. And I´m the one writing it. It´s
really quite amazing.
A: In part you are.
This related back to something that the C´s had been encouraging from
the beginning, saying as early as October of 1994 "Your consciousness
will soon give you spectacularly sharp, exact and correct information."
I realized that, gradually, since the C´s were Us in the Future, that
as we drew closer to that future, we were becoming them... and the C´s
- me - were speaking directly through my writing, showing me how to
assemble and edit the material together after I had made such a mess of
it in the question and answer phase. It was clear that the long period
of working with the board had aligned me with the C´s so closely, that
I had developed a circuit that bypassed my conscious mind and worked
directly through my hands.
Something needs to be said regarding the "challenge phase." I have
written in the biographical Amazing Grace:
Unfortunately, after the previous two years of mostly nonsense spirit
interactions, we were not yet in the habit of taping and we did not
know if this communication was a fluke or not. So, we only have notes
from the first half dozen or so early sessions. After a couple of
weeks of repeated contact and apparent strengthening of the
communication, I bought a special tape recorder to tape the sessions.
From this point on, we began what I intended to be a far more rigorous
"testing phase" of the communication. This consisted in rapid
questions that jumped from one subject to another across a broad range
of categories. I was checking consistency, trying to confuse the
source, and also trying to determine the range and limits. I was most
especially interested in questions relating to "unsolved mysteries" and
spent days going through books looking for particular "mysteries" to
ask about.
In one sense, this was a good thing, and in another it was not so
good. One thing that became very evident during this process was that
there was no way possible for any of the information to have been
"beamed" into our heads from any human source since the questions were
so random and the answers were so rapid, with many of them checking out
after later research. In fact, some of the information that the
Cassiopaeans gave us was unknown even to scholars and we had to really
dig for the answers that invariably confirmed that the Cassiopaeans
could tell us things that were most definitely not part of our own
subconscious minds. More than this, if the information had been
"beamed" via a satellite, whoever was there reading our minds in zero
time, or tuning in to our questions, must have had the fastest
"look-it-up-quick" crew on the planet, because the Cassiopaeans were
fast on the draw. And they soon began doing their own punctuation,
accurately I might add, so that if anyone was ´beaming info" into our
heads, they were a stickler for grammar, as well as the fastest in the
world in terms of looking up answers in the world´s biggest library!
The very bad thing about my "testing phase" is the fact that there is
almost no part of the material where the subjects do not just jump all
over the place. Indeed, we would come back and ask follow-up questions
at later times, but any one session could jump from higher cosmic
realms to the perception of house cats.
Another factor was that, after we began tape recording the sessions, I
felt that it was my duty to transcribe every single comment made by
everyone in the room. This resulted in a lot of side conversations
being included in the text. It is distracting, but I have left it in so
that the reader will have some idea of how the sessions proceeded. The
reader will also notice that there are over hundreds of separate files.
That is a lot of editing to do. There are actually more files than
those presented here, but there are certain files that are kept
separate from the general files simply because they contain information
on physics and other subjects that are technical, or are simply
personal.
There are some readers who have noted that some session excerpts that
are published in some of the articles are "different" from the same
excerpt in the session files, or that an older version is not the same
as a newer one. There is a very simple explanation for this that is
obvious to anyone who has done a great deal of audio record
transcribing, and is compounded by the fact that we are talking about
letter by letter transcribing.
In reconstructing early sessions, which were produced without taping,
there were numerous remarks in the notebooks for which no question
could be recalled, and thus were omitted initially. At a later point in
time, I went back and looked at those handwritten notes, which, after
many other things had been said, then made sense, and reinserted them
with the reconstructed "probable" question. This was purely and simply
a process of reconstruction that could not be done at the initial
stages because we simply did not have the knowledge base. Thus, the
early sets of transcripts are, as I have explained numerous time,
"iffy" at best, and so were the notes from the sessions. In other
cases, the transcribing was simply inaccurate and it has been necessary
to go back to the tape itself to check the accuracy of the transcribed
text. But rather than remove articles that contain some errors, we
prefer to leave them on the site as "historical documents" of the
progression of the experiment."
LOL!
VB |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1686
7/27/2005 9:39 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
here are some readers who have noted that some session excerpts that
are published in some of the articles are "different" from the same
excerpt in the session files, or that an older version is not the same
as a newer one. There is a very simple explanation for this that is
obvious to anyone who has done a great deal of audio record
transcribing, and is compounded by the fact that we are talking about
letter by letter transcribing.
In reconstructing early sessions, which were produced without taping,
there were numerous remarks in the notebooks for which no question
could be recalled, and thus were omitted initially. At a later point in
time, I went back and looked at those handwritten notes, which, after
many other things had been said, then made sense, and reinserted them
with the reconstructed "probable" question. This was purely and simply
a process of reconstruction that could not be done at the initial
stages because we simply did not have the knowledge base. Thus, the
early sets of transcripts are, as I have explained numerous time,
"iffy" at best, and so were the notes from the sessions. In other
cases, the transcribing was simply inaccurate and it has been necessary
to go back to the tape itself to check the accuracy of the transcribed
text. But rather than remove articles that contain some errors, we
prefer to leave them on the site as "historical documents" of the
progression of the experiment.
translation - i am too lazy to sanitise the bloviated web site and get all the tampered with transcriptions the same...
translation - the Cs are now gone and I now communicate to dear reader via the keyboard and the malignant entity (ies) in my head...
translation - I am making this up as I go along...
so much for rigorous scientific protocols since Ark crawled out of his hole... |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 152
7/27/2005 9:41 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I: I agree it would certainly have been more impressive if they had given the "right" answer.
But the general trend of the C´s messages were always more about fostering exploration and finding our own answers and understandings, rather than spoon-feeding information. Look how much exploration is taking place right now on the subject of this wrong prediction!
V: I don´t see how geting it wrong, and there are many more such "fostering exploration" mistakes, contributes to anything but the conclusion that the Cs are just astral flotsam answering questions to suck energy from LKJ and Fred...
VB |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1816
7/27/2005 10:30 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
> I realized that, gradually, since the C´s were
> Us in the Future, that as we drew closer to
> that future, we were becoming them
> ... and the C´s - me - were speaking directly
> through my writing, showing me how to
> assemble and edit the material together after
> I had made such a mess of it in the question
> and answer phase.
Bear in mind," says He, that "these letters
are not written, but impressed, or precipitated, and then all mistakes corrected." To turn to the sources of error in the precipitation. Remembering the circumstances under which blunders arise in telegrams, we see that if a Mahatma somehow becomes exhausted or allows his thoughts to wander off during the process, or fails to command the requisite intensity in the astral currents along which his thoughts are projected, or the distracted attention of the pupil produces disturbances in his brain and nerve-centres, the success of the process is very much interfered with.
> It was clear that the long period of working
> with the board had aligned me with the C´s
> so closely, that I had developed a circuit
> that bypassed my conscious mind and worked
> directly through my hands.
Those having even a superficial knowledge of the science of mesmerism know how the thoughts of the mesmeriser, though silently formulated in his mind are instantly transferred to that of the subject. It is not necessary for the operator, if he is sufficiently powerful, to be present near the subject to produce the above result.
...
The work of writing the letters in question is carried on by a sort of psychological telegraphy; the Mahatmas very rarely write their letters in the ordinary way. An electromagnetic connection, so to say, exists on the psychological plane between a Mahatma and his chelas, one of whom acts as his amanuensis.
...
The thoughts arising in the mind of the Mahatma are then clothed in word, pronounced mentally, and forced along the astral currents he sends towards the pupil to impinge on the brain of the latter. Thence they are borne by the nerve-currents to the palms of his hands and the tips of his fingers, which rest on a piece of magnetically prepared paper. As the thought-waves are thus impressed on the tissue, materials are drawn to it from the ocean of ákas, (permeating every atom of the sensuous universe) by an occult process, out of place here to describe, and permanent marks are left. . . .
excerpts from: Theosophist Library Online,
"Precipitation", Theosophist, January, 1884.
This was describing the rather controversial nature of how HPB claimed she was receiving teachings from her Himalayan masters, through mesmeric precipitation of their thoughtforms.
It is, however, unfortunate to confuse the entity being contacted with oneself, something that the Madame Blavatsky was quite loathe to do. Though they (temporarily) become us, and we them, it´s important to note that, even (especially!) if channeling ourselves, we are merely seperate entities communicating across the same medium... otherwise we are ´possessed´. Even psychologically a bad idea. Anonymous Coward signing off. Hello to those around in the good ol´ days of Matrioshka. |
| OPie
User ID: 8560
7/27/2005 10:43 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Here´s a comparison of the first few paragraphs of the "pity" session. I think they´re quite different.
Version 1:
Q: Reading through the session of May 23, last year, when Tom was also here, and the issue of his being in O´Brien was addressed, you asked who had begged him to stay there, then there was a remark about an EM vector. The way I understood it is that a person can be an EM vector. Is that possible?
A: Vector means focuser of direction.
Version 2:
Q: (L) Reading through the session of May 23, last year, when TK was also here, and the issue of his living in isolation from the rest of the world was addressed, you asked who had begged him to stay there even though he wanted to move to a place where he could have more contact with other people and more opportunities for growth and stimulation. The answer to this question was that it was his wife who insisted on remaining even though it was clear that he was unhappy in the environment. Then you (The Cassiopaeans) made a remark about an EM vector. The way I understood it is that you were saying that a person can be an EM vector. Is that possible?
A: Vector means focuser of direction.
Version 1:
Q: Could that mean that EM waves can be vectored by a human being simply by their presence? I also noticed that several of us have been involved with persons and relationships that seem designed to confuse, defuse, and otherwise distort our learning, as well as drain our energy. Basically, keeping us so stressed that we cannot fulfill our potential. Is there some significance to this observation?
A: That is elementary, my dear Knight!
Version 2:
Q: So his wife is the one who controls the focus of his direction. But how? Could that mean that EM waves can be vectored by a human being simply by their presence and that these EM waves are part of the control system that manipulates people? Can it be that such "agents" are used as EM vectors in the sense that they emanate a special frequency that literally affects the mind in terms of shutting down clarity, or even actually transmitting pre-coded thought loops?
A: Precisely.
Q: My God! I also noticed that several of us have been involved with persons and relationships that seem designed to confuse, defuse, and otherwise distort our learning, as well as drain our energy. Basically, keeping us so stressed that we cannot fulfill our potential. Is there some significance to this observation?
A: That is elementary, my dear Knight! |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1686
7/27/2005 10:46 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Thanks OPie! Sticks out a mile ... you cannot trust a word she says, not a single word.
She has clearly inserted all her Ark-directed organic portal pornography into the sessions 2 or 3 years after the fact.
You cannot get any more damning evidence of her lies and deceit than this jaw-dropping example!
other than maybe this:
[link to appraiser.pascogov.com] |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 152
7/27/2005 10:51 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Note from a friend on the HPB/LKJ connection:
correspondence ain´t perfect but is interesting,
it begins to look in some senses like a script being
replayed in different time and space::
1a) HPB starts as a trance medium into spiritualism
1b) LKJ ...
2a) HPB bad habits of smoking and hard drinking
2b) LKJ ... and during channeling sessions
2a) HPB inspired by Bullwer-Lyton occult fiction,
develops fascination with Egypt
2b) LKJ inspired by Bridges/Weidner occult
end-of-world ´historical fiction´/´scholarly
hypothesis´, develops fascination with
Rennes-le-Chateau
3a) HPB founds Theosophical Society
3b) LKJ and Ark found QFS
4a) HPB moves TS to Madras, India
4b) LKJ moves QFS to France
5a) HPB plagairizes widely from esoteric and
scientific sources
5b) LKJ ...
6a) HPB acknowledges sources to be Tibetan mahatmas in
the Himalayas - advanced members of same evolutionary
group, precipitating teachings through her mind/body
and telepathy.
6b) LKJ sources are Cassiopaeans, ourselves and
herself in the future, received teachings first as
Ouji board sessions, then direct ´telepathy´
7a) HPB monopolizes channel, she is the only authentic
source of the teachings.
7b) LKJ ...
8a) TS teachings erupt in a world of economic
uncertaintly and disrupted/questioned superiority of
science.
8b) QFS teachings erupt ...
Frighteningly, the TS teachings become a pivotal part
of co-opted occult beliefs of the Nazi party, as well
as foundations of new age beliefs.
V: Yep... Just like old times...
VB |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1686
7/27/2005 10:57 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Indeed! |
| Sol Invictus
User ID: 3336
7/27/2005 11:03 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Haha, damn yeah, those transcripts really did get edited... and to make it worse for the cass people, this is the kind of thread that Google loves, with repetitions of the same key words over and over again on a major site :P
LOL, just curious Anders - if they hadn´t posted that email, would you have even bothered taking it all this far? Because if the answer is no, and they STILL continue to think "character assassinations" are a good way to "deal with attacks from alleged OPs, agents of the matrix, and psychopaths" (that would be you, OPie, Chandra, VB, maybe myself too, lol) then I´ll happily agree that they are quite insane!
If they´d apologized for posting the mail and said "we wish you all the best, sorry it turned out this way" would you have at least backed down a little? I just ask, cause that´s what I would have done were I the leader of the QFG, and I´m just curious if that would have been a better idea!
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 1686
7/27/2005 11:08 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
LOL, just curious Anders - if they hadn´t posted that email, would you have even bothered taking it all this far?
SOL - it is a huge matter of principal for me. For all of us. The e-mail was neither here nor there.
Because if the answer is no, and they STILL continue to think "character assassinations" are a good way to "deal with attacks from alleged OPs, agents of the matrix, and psychopaths" (that would be you, OPie, Chandra, VB, maybe myself too, lol) then I´ll happily agree that they are quite insane!
It is their SOP - all here with any knowledge of their modus operandi can testify to this.
If they´d apologized for posting the mail and said "we wish you all the best, sorry it turned out this way" would you have at least backed down a little?
Not at all.
Pure serendipity question_dogma trolled here in the first place to drum up interest in Laura´s scribblings.
The thread took off on it´s own and now has strength and momentum.
I just ask, cause that´s what I would have done were I the leader of the QFG, and I´m just curious if that would have been a better idea!
LOL
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| Sol Invictus
User ID: 3336
7/27/2005 11:22 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Haha, ok, fair enough! But you must admit you´d had dozens of chances to criticize the cass group here previously. I remember one other thread way back in the day at least, where you didn´t post all this stuff, and I assume that´s because no cass people showed up to "flick you off" and add fuel to the fire ;)
My point, I guess, is that this thread (and the way it turned out) is at least 50% their own fault. They seem to have made so many enemies, almost attracting conflicts where they needn´t be any. Their OP theory - and the conclusions they drew from it - is of course to blame for this to a huge extent.
Anyways, lol, carry on bro! This thread is still pretty damn interesting, I just hope the QFS members who posted here learned something at least. If their theories don´t even work in the relatively harmless atmosphere on GLP where everyone is just sitting behind a computer screen with time to think about what they write, they certainly won´t work in real life either!
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 5863
7/27/2005 11:36 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
kris wrote...
what opie said, all of the above
and double
what anders said to the stalker
what vincent said too
eileen and infinitea, you both
seem like really nice people,
but u might want to start
a different thread.
...well, I for one rather appreciated Eileen´s and Infinitea´s contributions.
talk about doing exactly what cass group does... |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 152
7/27/2005 11:49 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
If they´d apologized for posting the mail and said "we wish you all the best, sorry it turned out this way" would you have at least backed down a little?
V: From my POV, as late December 2001, if they had actually just corrected their lies, no need to apologize, I would have backed off. But, rather than just cutting their losses, they cranked it up again after they moved to France. As Andy said, it is now a matter of principle, and I´ll be on it as long as it takes to get justice...
VB |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 152
7/27/2005 11:57 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
eileen and infinitea, you both
seem like really nice people,
but u might want to start
a different thread.
...well, I for one rather appreciated Eileen´s and Infinitea´s contributions.
V: Me too... But they might want to start a new thread to discuss the broader implications of the channelling phenomenon itself. It does sort of fit here, but this thread is directed toward the Cs and LKJ.
talk about doing exactly what cass group does...
V: Not even close... Nobody is banished, or bad-mouthed behind their back, or subjected to character assassination. Infinitea seems like a "true Believer" because she continues to want to believe, in the Cs, in Tobias or whom ever. Eileen seems very sharp, but she is experiencing phenomenon for which she has few answers. I think we have shown her that LKJ and the Cs have little to help her. But that doesn´t mean either one should stop looking... Or communicating about the main subject here on this thread...
If you want to see how the C-cult does it, join CassChat and try to ask even the slighest inconvenient questions...
VB |
| OPie
User ID: 8560
7/27/2005 11:59 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
As Andy said, it is now a matter of principle, and I´ll be on it as long as it takes to get justice...
Me three. |
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