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| Anders
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9/7/2005 7:57 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
>50 |
| Anders
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9/8/2005 5:41 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
>> 50 |
| Anonymous Coward
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9/8/2005 10:33 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Anna Hayes / Ashayana Deane messenger from the Universe
By Colleen Johnston © 2004
Note: Colleen Johnston is a former UFO cult member, UFO cult researcher as well as alien abduction researcher. No part of this article can be used in part or any form without expressed written consent. For use permission or comments please email her at: webmaster@maar.us
Anna Hayes as she used to be known, (now going by Ashayana Deane) has a typical cultic persona and ideology dealing with ET - channeling and is typical of many UFO Contactee cults. It is really a cookie cutter messiah ‘Melchizedek´[1] molded type of ideology that is currently affecting the UFO and New Age communities. I would estimate that about 70% of UFO cults in existence have the Melchizedek ideology firmly implanted within the groups belief systems. Often such groups will blend various religious and Orthodox viewpoints and other principles that are out there. The name change is typical of the egotistic cultic persona. They some how become more important in their minds – especially if the channeled information indicates they should.
Even groups like the ill-fated Jim Jones and David Koresh had the ET connection enmeshed in a psychotic screwed up ideology. Jim Jones of the People Temple was fascinated with Hitler’s reign and some of the occultist aspects that Hitler used in his belief system. David Koresh of the Branch Davidians (born Vernon Wayne Howell) had a belief in the Flying/ Winged Serpents of God as UFO occupants according to one former member. (To date I have not been able to verify the validity of the statement and would welcome former cult followers of Koresh to validate this please email me if you can verify this and you were a former follower!) Both groups are the extreme cases of what can happen when following deadly apocalyptic information. I also believe that demonic alien entities infect such groups along with very low ordered demons. I say this with confidence as a former member of a similar UFO cult with some of the same ideologies and dealing with some forms of demonic manifestations for a six-year time period during the 1970’s. I have been out of a similar cult since 1995, which I was a member of since the early part of 1988.
I sincerely believe that entities that work through the more benign groups are real but not as demon-like (so far) as Applewhite, of the infamous Heaven´s Gate, Jones or Koresh’s apocalyptic ideologies. I do think they are indeed ET and much fiercer than demons because they have free will as demonic’s can be ousted. I have researched both demonology and alien abduction, ET contact experiences for the better part of 30 years. Many similarities between the entities but there are vast differences too. I also think the entity interaction deals with real alien beings - but not those of love and light but with a nefarious agenda to eventually take over the host - or the human they are interacting with. messages as well as messengers after a period of time will turn apocalyptic - for instance it took about five years for the messages to creep into channeling sessions in the group I was involved with.
ET Contactee cults are all about ego, ego seduction as well as power and greedily making large sums of money. This is done by unscrupulously duping a section of the populace genuinely searching for spirituality outside of traditional routes. Anna isn’t any different than any other cult leader who is scamming the population. She also financially ripped off supporters in Sarasota, FL where she had her Azurite temple back in 2002 when several followers became suspicious, because many things she ´channeled´ didn´t come to pass according to these former cult members.
She moved to England –with few cult members knowing it and dissolved the identity of Anna Hayes and now spends time between the USA and England giving lectures and selling her products and ideology for a hefty price. Her ´Melchizedek Cloister Emerald Order´ is nothing more than a front to gain money and a following to make more money. Current ex-believers, (a few who’ve contacted me) don´t even know about the name Anna Hayes or the troubles in Sarasota, FL.
Anna Hayes and the Cassiopaean channel (claiming to now be channeling her future self) Laura Knight Jadczyk (who also left former believers in the dust and financially much lighter in Florida) have such a similar ideology that it ’s frightening. Below I will list the comparisons between the channels and the groups themselves. There is even a slight comparison between both women to Jelaila Starr of The Nibiruan Council
Anna Hayes (now Ashayana Deane) & the Melchizedek Cloister Emerald Order
Laura Knight Wright (now Jadczyk)& the Future Quantum School of Melchidezek teachings
Lived in Sarasota Florida and formed the Azurite Temple in 1996
Lived in New Port Richey and formed the Perseus Foundation in 1995
Moved suddenly to England after ripping off members in Sarasota FL of an undisclosed amount of cash, supposedly to support the MCEO center.
Moved suddenly to France after embezzling close to 150,000 thousand dollars from a raffle that was presented to members to win the Perseus Foundation from New Port Richey, Florida. A person who was close to Laura and living in the center won the raffle.
Channeling group with info coming from the leadership aka the Guardian Alliance
Channeling group with leadership coming from leadership claiming to be Laura future self.
Uses gloom and prophetic rhetoric to control members
Channeling consists of dire future predictions of apocalyptic proportions to control members.
Claims to be a prophet with psychic talent and a contactee
Claims to be a remote viewer with psychic talent and contactee
Borrows some ideologies from JJ Hurtak works via the Keys of Enoch
Borrows some ideologies from JJ Hurtak works via the Keys of Enoch
Mixed bag of other ideologies involving channeling information, Archangels, Spiritisim, Alien and Christian philosophy even claiming to be Jesus Christ’s half sister incarnate and channeling
Mixed bag of Ideologies involving Christian, angelic, Judaism, Islamic and ET’s, Spiritisim (via Ouija board type of device) and channeling
Plays upon the fears and hopes of supporters
Plays upon the fears and hopes of supporters.
Claims exclusive information coming from ET sources called the Guardian Alliance
Claims exclusive information coming from Cassiopaean version of her future self.
Changes ideology to suit self interests
Changes ideology to suit self interests
So who started their group first? According to Anna she’s known this information all her life but decided to let the public know in 1996. Knight made a similar claim but edged the date back to 1995, and Starr at 1995 as well. Hayes and Starr resemble the most in products and workshops (and prices I might add) – while Knight and Hayes have similarities listed above.
What can we expect from these futuristic channels? Time will bear fruit. I would suggest that before anyone that gets involved with such groups is to watch them over the course of a few years. Watch them to see what they do and the changes they impose on their groups and their ideologies. History has a way of repeating it’s self and the entity that channels within as well as the egotistic con man side of their personas will always strive to take control regardless of continent. |
| Anonymous Coward
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9/10/2005 4:31 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
bump |
| sambo_the_mambo
User ID: 4767
9/10/2005 4:33 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
charlie manson called and said he wants his crazy back.
zetas suck |
| Anders
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9/12/2005 12:35 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
bumpski |
| Anders
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9/13/2005 4:58 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
bump |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1333
9/13/2005 8:40 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Laura Knight Jadczyk has a new book out about 911. I wonder who she plagiarized this time! |
| Proud To Be Gay
User ID: 17022
9/14/2005 3:34 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
551, 4 yrs late! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18809
9/17/2005 8:17 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
bump |
| mcubik
User ID: 6007
9/17/2005 11:35 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
bump because the spirits told me to peace |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
9/18/2005 9:45 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I think it is clear that Laura found her ark of the covenant. I asked ST in BG on the ET thread what he thought about all of this. ST in BG thinks that the Cassiopeans (Mantians or Mantis People) are wonderful but the channelling is not. They´re past 100 pages on that thread and bumps dont make good reading.
Is Laura really channelling herself in the future - is that what she actually states? I talk to myself in the future and get back very accurate stuff. For example with Katrina I get back some acknowledgement about it as it is hyped up but also that it is not the big one. However it is the clearly defined one like 911 which will go down in history. Otherwise my other self is delightfully vague about things. This is about right - if you asked me now about stuff in the 60´s I would be quite confused and vague. My young self then had no patience for growing older and wiser and wont listen to me.
Those of you who knew Laura must have something good to say about her even though you have since travelled away from each other. I say this because plagiarism is mentioned a lot with regard to her but I am now seeing her stuff all over the place. What did she come up with that is original and correct?
I am jealous really. If I could find a way to earn money using what I know or guess might be I would be happy as. To have so many interested in me would be delightful. I long to start a sect but as my wife told me (a statement that will also go down in my history as defining) I could never start a sect. It would lose money for a start.
Anyway I have been chatting with extra terrestrials on holiday and learned all sorts of fascinating things. For a start none of them come from Pleiades, Cassiopea etc. These places are in our minds eyes. Secondly they have no physical attributes at all which is how they travel instantly wherever. Like ghosts. Blah blah unsaleable stuff. I ask if they are in the fourth dimension or fifth density or something and get told no they are in my living room.
So I am deluding myself. Then my wife and I look up and the sky is pure blue but crisscrossed by all these massive straight lines - like vast vapour trails. Never seen such a surreal sky but the straightness looks wrong. A few ordinary round clouds. And no jets leave vapour trails like these. Next thing two fighters appear and zoom along one, one in it and one next to it. You have to be mad to make something of this. I wonder if Laura has ever met any of these ones. And there´s me wishing they could leave me with an extra terrestrial can opener or something.
If any of you are good at starting sects look no further for a channeller. Dont believe me? Look out the window now please. |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
9/20/2005 1:29 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
6 bumps this page surely you lot can pass the time of day - protect this thread as it is quite special. Who has met Laura or been present at a channelling? I want to know more about this. Does she grunt, have a little fit then speak in a strange voice? The questions come from someone else? She cant ask and reply surely.
Why did any of you get taken in originally? Did you ever think you would earn a living off this? I did when I joined a sect in 1974 or I wouldn´t have stayed. I will leave that sentence in but it is not quite true, they healed me overnight of something deeply troubling - quite impossible but after I served my time I realised they were not good people and not telling the truth. However I needed the incentive of a salary for doing what I liked during the day and the odd teaching night. Is that what happened?
Then what do you think is the truth. For example I learned a lot in that sect but not from them. So I can see that being drawn to it had validity and I would let that all happen again. I joined with one wife and left with another. It was fun too. No drugs at all was very good for me at that time. It was not always nice. So what is it with this lot.
Finally if any of them read this can they kindly respond and let me know what it is like - up and downside for real. On balance it may be ok. I mean densities and aliens are not worth getting too worked up about true or not, two sides in this is like kids arguing over Star Trek or father Christmas. Some of the religous stuff on the forum is far more worrying.
anybody out there or just bumps in the night? |
| Anders
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9/20/2005 2:07 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
bumpski
folks are reading john, tust me, good questions... |
| Sea Phoenix
User ID: 22862
9/21/2005 9:28 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
John Souter:
ST in BG thinks that the Cassiopeans (Mantians or Mantis People) are wonderful but the channelling is not.
Sea Phoenix:
Huh? When did the Cs become Mantis People? This is news to me, and I participated in sessions off and on from 1994 to 2002.
I´ve never heard such a thing.... although I do find it very intriguing.
John Souter:
Those of you who knew Laura must have something good to say about her even though you have since traveled away from each other.
Sea Phoenix:
This one was interesting to think about, even though I´ve thought about this countless numbers of times. If I start thinking about this question too long the process becomes tainted with sour memories and emotionally convoluted.
Yet, if I´m in my heart center, non-linearly in the moment, I can tell you that some of the greatest laughs I´ve shared with others, the most wondrous mind blowing moments of my pathwalk, and a fair amount of personal growth is the direct result of my interaction with the Cs and Laura (and family).
To sum up a difficult thought ball: I´d much rather be in my heart where Laura the human being is concerned, the memories are otherwise cumbersome and in direct conflict with where I CHOOSE to be any given moment.
John Souter:
Does she grunt, have a little fit then speak in a strange voice?
Sea Phoenix:
Dear god, where do you guys come up with this stuff?
 That´s a rhetorical question.
John Souter:
Why did any of you get taken in originally?
Sea Phoenix:
"Taken in" in the context of the subject matter seems to have two meanings. One, taken in--sucked in through misleading or deceptive information. Duped. Two, taken in--being accepted into the fold.
Oddly, I don´t fall into either of these categories. To be frankly honest, given the preceding two years of my life, before I moved to FL, I would say that my interaction with Laura and the Cs was something more like fate and destiny, rather than dumb luck. Basically? I asked for it.
John Souter:
Did you ever think you would earn a living off this?
Sea Phoenix:
No. And it never would´ve been my money to make in the first place.
I´ll tell you, though, I never could have guessed ten years ago that I would´ve learned such a way of living as I have come to live, happily. My learning is the product of many factors, but one of the top three reasons is indeed L and the C´s sessions. The first is my personal drive.
John Souter:
I ask if they are in the fourth dimension or fifth density or something and get told no they are in my living room.
Sea Phoenix:
Even if the ETs that told you this were serious... oh my, but that´s very funny! LOL! Time traveler humor!
In closing, the ONLY reason I posted here was to answer some apparently genuine questions from John Souter. I haven´t spoken to L in over three years and can´t imagine the circumstances that would draw our paths together again. Period.
My replies here are in no way a challenge to any other person´s platform concerning LKJ, et al. My appearance here is absolutely not for the sake of stirring the pot, and I will not engage any energy that appears to be stewing.
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| Sea Phoenix
User ID: 22862
9/21/2005 9:59 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I apologize for spelling your last name incorrect John.  |
| Anders
User ID: 15722
9/21/2005 10:06 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
1223 bumpski |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
9/21/2005 3:51 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Sea Phoenix thanks so much for replying. You sum up exactly the feelings I have for the man Leo (deceased) who was channelling an extra terrestrial called Toir in the late 70´s. I loved him and his family and stuck in with them even when it became embarrassing. Almost like they all became different people. Toir used to talk about the great white craving (sugar) and other very interesting things (at first). AND I FIND IT HARD TO THINK ABOUT TOO BUT IN MY HEART I AM RECONCILED WITH THE MAN (I have to be he came to live in me last year). Excuse the upper case but this computer does stuff like this when I am not watching the screen.
Some of my questions are naive and offensive and reading your reply made me realise that so I am doubly grateful to you. I am a bit like that about Laura. That is I read a bit of the website two months ago and was drawn to it, then repulsed. But I cannot ignore the draw. I hope she reads these posts although I can imagine them enraging her. She should come here and discuss the problems too. I wish Leo had been able to do that but this is where earning a living comes in. Its hard. That was offensive of me but there you are. I have always worked hard but I dreamed of such a retirement. I agree though that anything I may have earned out of the Emin would not have been mine. As it happens I gave them most of what I had then.
Mantians. He didn´t say mantis ´people´ I misquoted him. Mantis something cant remember what but its on the ET thread somewhere. It takes so long for me to find stuff on the long threads. ST in BG is very pleasant to me and I instinctively like this one whatever.
My interpretation of all these things is mellowing with age perhaps. I think these days that somewhere in the middle of the rants and the detractors lies a truth. I have definitely been both. I remember with acute embarrassment trying to persuade all my friends and relatives that the Emin had the answer to everything back in 1975. This is a building block somewhere inside. I would struggle to find a single concept that fits now.
Can you get any others to write about their experiences? As for the grunt and funny voice what can I say - that is how she comes across on this thread. What were the sessions like then? Highly charged atmospheres? A lot of people who claim to channel do odd physical movements etc which always puts me off. I probably have a peculiar body language when I give someone a ´reading´. But they only cvome from my imagination not departed spirits or et´s.
All the best - I´ll look out for Sea Phoenix.
Anders kindly explain Bumpski to me. And thanks for what you post here. Can you find a session that you go with 100%? If so do post. You seem nice people are you all American?
by the way Sea Phoenix (and just to annoy you) the ancients also mispell my surname. Actually my Dad put it the other way and said we come from the illiterate branch of the family. I find Soter, Sator, Sokar, Sothis (my birthday is the heliacal rising of) Sutekh or Set, Satyrs - the family, Djehwty etc. Never see Souttar (anag Out Star). My wife says I shouldn´t post with my real name as it is impolite but the first thing the Emin said is that it ´begins by changing your name´ and everyone took silly names like Leo (real name Raymond). I was called reve eventually although I held out for ages and insisted I was John. My children and friends still call me Reve. I cant do that anymore. Got far too many names anyway.
all the best and thanks again
and how does Anders fit into all of this?
I know I´m cheeky but if that elicits a response like yours I will continue down that road. thanks again. Any chance you can tell me what you do believe about the C´s. |
| Sea Phoenix
User ID: 22956
9/23/2005 12:59 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
John Souttar:
Can you get any others to write about their experiences?
Sea Phoenix:
No, I´m sorry I can´t. I no longer have any contact with anyone I sat in on sessions with. Outside of Laura and Fred I didn´t develop personal relationships with any of the few others who were ever at any of the sessions where I was present.
John Souttar:
What were the sessions like then? Highly charged atmospheres? A lot of people who claim to channel do odd physical movements etc which always puts me off.
Sea Phoenix:
In retrospect, the sessions were like going to school... with my most favorite of teachers. Was it a highly charged atmosphere? I suppose it depends on what you mean by highly charged. Objectively, any kind of "charged" energy was felt in my body, but the air in the room didn´t feel like it was electrically charged. Subjectively, there were some fairly intense moments... I mean, learning about an alien agenda (and all that entails) and the Illuminati was some gosh darn intense material, yes? At least for me, at the time, it was intense.
There were no odd physical movements by any person I ever saw at a session. Outside the head-trip of conversing with 6D beings through a Psychic Circle board and the material being discussed, it was as normal as gathering around a table to have a fun dinner party.
John Souttar:
by the way Sea Phoenix (and just to annoy you) the ancients also mispell my surname.
Sea Phoenix:
LOL! Why do you think this would annoy me?
John Souttar:
Any chance you can tell me what you do believe about the C´s.
Sea Phoenix:
I can´t really tell if you´re asking this question of Anders or myself, but I think the only thing I can "believe" about the Cs is that they were available to serve a greater good... and of course, this is written keeping in mind that all the information wasn´t without less than greater good intentions by others, whether they be in body or not. My time and study with the Cs was definitely to a greater good end for myself. I can easily seperate what it was like back then, sitting around that little table in the little room off of Laura´s kitchen, and what one finds on the Cass website; trust me when I write that there is a world of difference between the two. In my personal estimation, one was of a more innocent time and discovery. The one major thing I learned from the Cs was that my personal intent is everything, and that nobody else is going to pull me out of the fire like I´ll be able to with my intentions. Eleven years later I´m chagrined to know that I didn´t know as much then. |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
9/23/2005 3:39 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
so now I feel completely different about them again. I sometimes think most bands etc do their best stuff at the beginning. At the beginning with my lot it was an extraordinary loving party and voyage of discovery. I really enjoyed reading ´kitchen´ and ´table´ in your post. Even some of the outrageous stuff I´ve read of the later? sessions (if true) retains a bit of a kitchen table and honest attempt to work at the subject. Maybe it all went to you Sea Phoenix and they are trying but its not there anymore, something else is. That´s what I feel happened to me. I took my Dad to meet my ´guru´ (the guy who got me off drugs as far as Dad was concerned) and his devotees and good old Dad, one of the last great priests in this country in my opinion, took all the spirits off him. Enraged ´guru´ took off to Florida (1980?) and got seriously rich. I work these days yards from where he lived when I met him. A rough flat in Hackney our most deprived inner city borough. I work there with older people, pick them up when they press their button and house them. He was a security guard then and the meetings in his little flat were out of this world. How that became what they are now (the Template) who knows. He is dead and they flourish - singing songs and dancing by the look of it. We were healing and having Egypt nights, working on 7 levels of the astral light, law of two, three, and four, stuff we called groundwork and obviously tarot and astrology were mandatory if very unusual in their form (You take the insemination date not birth for Emin astrology). Then of course came the ET channelling from Toir which first appeared in one of his books. This inspired the ´cage´, a large copper wire structure in our new Temple, which we all paid for, and now we did our little services to attract spirits which hung in the cage along with elementals. (until dad came)
So they were both in Florida at the same time. Leo and Laura. Fascinating.
Go on tell me more. I love this stuff, my life depends on it. Somehow the earth did not give birth in 1986 but it didn´t make any difference to our lot. Probably became 1999, now 2012 etc. I was there 1974/81 and was educated by the questions, not their answers and it is Laura´s(?) questions which fascinated me at first
Q Is the earth preganant and about to give birth to a moon through the San Andreas fault?
A Close
all the best |
| Anders
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9/23/2005 5:41 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Bumpski |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
9/25/2005 6:24 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
It seems to me that advanced technology does not signify advanced intelligence. We have had plenty of advanced intelligence and spirituality at times on our planet when technology was quite basic. For example the original Greek philosphers co-existed with Buddha, Lao-Tse and Confucius and between them set many of the parameters for our present world (600BC to 500BC). Christianity and Islam did not exactly do this, they merely re-inforced it.
So I wonder why we should be respectful to extra terrestrials unless they are enhancing our ethics and moralities.
The two problems that they identify are time and density. Laura and nancy both seem to get into this as does ST in BG.
Time. Einstein and later brains realised that if I leave the house and go round the block extremely fast my wristwatch will show an earlier time than my clock at home when I get back. However ET insists there is no time - all is one time and what we experience is illusion. In reality what we have here is human evolution taking place in the blink of an eye for them. It cannot be dismissed. we have this special commodity here which perhaps they lack. It has enabled our intelligence to grow so perhaps they also lack that facility. Not one et answer that I have seen displays superior intelligence. You see a kitten suffering at the side of the road, maybe just hit by a car. What do you do if you are intelligent? What does et do? We have a life span which means we have to learn fast, what does et have?
As for density and our being in 3rd heading for 4th. We have different levels of what could be called spirituality. I invert the numbers so that 1 is the highest level and 7th the lowest. They can be (Moon, planet, sun, star, galaxy,universe,´god´). At the bottom is the wife beater and general hoodlum, then the citizen, then the thinker, then the connected one, the bigger picture artist, all things must pass, what´s it all about. We can inhabit the whole lot at the same time (consider the great thinkers who beat their wives and the connected ones who advocated this). hence imperfection is present in all things and is part of the process. You plant a million seeds, not all survive and grow properly. Somewhere in there will be some very special ones.
I apply this to Laura and Nancy. Somewhere in there is something special. But we are the important product and from us and our future do they seem to get their knowledge. I dont think they should be coming back and talking to us as it is short circuiting the process. Fortunately we are protected as no one believes it for real. Try explaining to your mother that you are channelling an et.
Running alongside this is the definite fact that there do exist evil spirits alongside ´good´ ones. Confucius used to say leave the spirit world alone (while Lao-Tse advocated the opposite).
Hi all - I wonder if my posts are the kiss of death to some threads. Is it becaue I am English, a newcomer and a bit outspoken? Boring? worse? |
| Anders
User ID: 26043
9/26/2005 10:15 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Not boring John! We are regrouping :O))) |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
9/27/2005 1:22 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Thanks Anders. This thread is important to me. It is on my favorites and how I access GLP, in fact how I first stumbled on it. I would like to register and have a pretty picture (can we submit our own or do they have a selection?) but this is how it works for me up to now. Might feel different if another John Souttar starts posting too.
I cannot bring myself to start ´enough about Laura what do you all know about Leo and the Template´. But I get the answers to that here.
Anyway I have decided to have a go at channelling the Cassiopeans (ST in BG´s Mantis Beings if he is correct). I have the ability to do this but have never had the interest. So I will do a bit of this tonight and publish my notes.
I wonder if any of you have any questions you would like asked (although I am sure you can all ask them yourselves). I want to know if they tune in to GLP, are disappointed with Laura and Ark, and a bit of off the wall stuff. There is no table in my kitchen but I will create that kind of atmosphere for them. Can I ask them about Anders and SeaPhoenix too? Probably will anyway. I dont use a planchette or board but do use ordinary playing cards to which I ascribed my own meanings long ago. This will make it look as though they are speaking in ´my language´. But I will definitely know if they are coming through and do not have any assumptions about that.
Anyone who wants to tune in it will be in about two and a half hours (9.00pm UK time) for around half an hour (unless it gets interesting). Wish me luck. If I get abducted get ST in BG to get me back before I am abducted if you see what I mean. Or the elite one. Although I suspect they would be happy to see me go.
all the best to you |
| mcubik
User ID: 13303
9/27/2005 1:39 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
greeting and salutations anders you are now eating the dust from the op terran thread we pulled ahead 31000 hits to your measly 29000 alas it looks as if the op terran engine has blown but for a little while we were number one a bump for the threads that refuse to die i like the sound of that i refuse to die peace |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
9/27/2005 5:21 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
For once I am hoping no one reads this thread as this is not elite stuff -We made our peaceful agreement witnessed by a sun representative (representation). Something is there. The deal is I disclose even though I am not happy with most of this, and some seems very personal, however:
1) Can you describe yourselves so I can understand?
2) We are martian that is soldiers who are employed to patrol this habitat
1) is this on a long contract
2) the contract is endless
1) how do I know that I can trust you
2) how do you know that we ask as clearly you trust us
1) I have some questions about GLP
2) ask away
1) Do you monitor GLP?
2) Of course
1) Do you know Anders?
2) Of course
1) Can you tell me about Anders and SeaPhoenix
2) anders is deciding whether you are a very bad man but also sees you as an amusement and ally
- he is a very intelligent farsighted goodman
1) Have you a message for SeaPhoenix
2) She cares very much for the work that was and is done
1) Have you a message for me
2) She cares very much for the work that was and is done and he cares very much too more than he will show
1) Tell me about Laura and ark
2) With Laura you have honesty but it is too soon. With Ark you have someone who does what he instinctively knows is right but which is temporary
1) Have you a message for GLP
2) It will happen and you may have to move, stop work, do something different, take a holiday. Be patient it is nice and quiet at present.
(then some off the record conversation - one signed my minutes on their behalf with a very curious name indeed but I would prefer to withold it with their agreement.)
How embarrassing is that in cold print but this is an honest attempt and I am in no doubt that it is accurate to the level of my perception. It does worry me to publish this sort of material especially with the likes of you the judge. Still it puts me closer to Laura´s shoes. I could try scientific stuff I dont understand but it was just curiosity. I certainly cannot swear they are Cassiopeans anyway but I requested them, in the sense of those who contact Laura in that name. Didn´t look mantis at all and signed a name that is quite english sounding, though I do not know it. Night all |
| mcubik
User ID: 13303
9/28/2005 12:49 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
 anders just wondering how the op terra tailpipes look from back there having a little trouble breathing old chap peace and bump |
| Anders
User ID: 18376
9/28/2005 9:54 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hey John. Mr Cubik, fascinating stuff! I be back in a little while... |
| Cassie O´Peeon
User ID: 18159
9/28/2005 6:48 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hi, Cassie O’Peeon here.
I have been channeling an entity named Laura Knight Jadczyk for the last year. This entity told me at first that she was from the constellation of Ursa Major but has now changed her story and says that she is just me in the future.
I had no idea that there was a real Laura Knight Jadczyk until I googled the name and found this forum. I thought some of you might be interested in the transcripts from some of our channeling sessions.
March 4, 2005 session.
Question: Hello Laura Knight Jadczyk. Where do you come from?
Laura Knight Jadczyk: I come from Ursa Major, although you may call me the Big Dipper.
Question: Do you wish me to keep these sessions secret?
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Betray all personal confidences. A secret kept is an opportunity lost.
Question: Er … okay. Are you telling me the truth?
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Abandon any quest for the truth. Fiction is scary enough. Cultivate an inner shallowness in all that you do.
Do not be fooled by the depth of your own superficiality.
Cede intellectual involvement. Follow your ignorance.
Question: Hmmm. How should I deal with my fellow humans?
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Surrender objectivity when dealing with inferiors. Submit to prejudice and dislike everyone equally.
Always assume what others think or feel. Who knows better what you really want from others?
Question: Should I meditate?
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Shun exercises in higher consciousness; attempt not to understand the workings of the inner mind, it can only lead to ride sharing.
Doubt nothing; it requires far too much thought.
Question: Should I treat others the way I would want to be treated?
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Encourage projection. Project onto others what you would not have projected onto yourself.
Also remember to question certainty. The righter you are, the wronger you’ll be.
Question: I’m getting a little lost here…
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Perpetuate conceit. Narcissism is love eternal.
Question: Are you sure this is how I should treat others?
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Exact revenge. An opportunity to retaliate is the universe of providing a simple pleasure.
Question: Will I ever do anything that is considered great?
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Mislead yourself and others. Invest in your delusions of grander.
Question: I have to go to dinner. Is there anything else before I go that you think I should know?
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Dodge reality. Never assume that things are really how they are.
Question: Okay. Good night.
Laura Knight Jadczyk: Good Knight! |
| Anders
User ID: 18376
9/28/2005 7:41 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
FLASHBACK!!!!!
must be chucking out time in France, LOL
Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans?
Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans?
Ok, sorry for not having able to write myself all the answers of this thread, but as you all know by now, I work for the DOD of the MI5, speciality C.I.A. cryingwolfer, section gray´n´watching with the afghan drugs sub-guroup ...
Nonetheless I have been monitoring the discussion under several identities and specially this one: (Bumping Bumping Myself).
I also apologize to have entertained you all along the first ten pages before revealing the real subject of OP in p. 11...
Abstract:
p. 11
"1) What is the French anti-cult law?
2) Who is targeted by this law?
3) When was the law passed?
4) Where can I find the original anti-cult law in English?
5) Is the law a threat to religious freedom?
666), er, 6) Is the anti-cult law supported by mainstream religions in France?
7) Who else is opposing the anti-cult law?
8) Are there historical precedents?
9) Where can I find documents and web pages related to the anti-cult law?"
See above for the solution, but because my tiger and myself We are not stupid, and We are not imagining things, I´ll give you a clue: for instance Church of Scientology is not concerned by this, butt, shhht...
Indeed since 1993 it´s a real true religion in this beautiful land of liberty where a fresh elected president swears on the bible and where money is marked with this flamelian incantation: "in gold we trust". But not yet in France nor in Germany.
Not yet convinced that it is a verrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy bad law? So here is the PROOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF!!!!! (gimmick of mine LOL ROFL ROAFLM LAOLILAMFLOA????? please laugh here!!!!!)
1a) Meeting with the french Interior Minister of the cults:
[link to www.rickross.com]
1b) French Interior Ministry got its antivirus from a well-known software society:
[link to www.skeptictank.org]
2a) Receiving the “medaille de citoyen d’honneur” from Marseille mayor:
[link to www.rivieratimes.com]
2b) True miracle with the disappearence of judicial documents in Marseille:
[link to www.raids.org]
Are you beginning to get the picture? So can you tell me why, let´s say Scientology (((but don´t forget that it´s just an example here, Ok))), is still considered as a cult in France and toMMy is still banned in Germany??? Why such an injustice??? Whhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyy????? That´s a really Große deception!!!
Soooooooooooo, as you subtly guessed, all these fine GL PO threats have nothing to do with the dangerous shape-shifters aka The Barbapapaieans, their bubble-house and their cunning messages: "Hello Yes No Open Close Vague Surf Mirth Bingo Good knight"...
[link to www.barbapapa.fr]
Therefore, p. 10:
"If you really want the Barbapapaieans back in the States and in jail by Christmas, write to the local magistrate."
And please do it yourself, even from Uantanamo-States-Asylum, because my tiger and myself We are not stupid, and We are not imagining things, and We can assure you that it´s hard to fool french and german guys about so-called religions or real crooks.
But if you are fully motivated, I´ll give you this letter as a model to send to the president of the french republic aus FrankReich:
[Here in the upper left corner, put your moniker and your avatar]
[Below your GL PO ID but only if you accept to be tracked by UPS or NSA]
[And sorry, but don´t use smilies, you could be misunderstood, create a diplodomaticus incident or unwillingly engage a nuclear WoWIII — pronounced dubya of dubai or War of the Words Free]
"Dear Myster President ChIraq,
Versailles Castello
P.O. Box mayor of Ca c´est Paris
First of all, I want to thank you very much for authorizing your successor and his future prime minister to meet our ambassador, spiritual son of Ronny C.I.A. Cloowney & the Junior Woodchucks. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
BTW, I warn you that there is a massive collateral risk for your fro, er, young people because of the enormous kabbala of alchem, er, terrorysts plotting in the SouthWest of your landscape, known as the Barbapapaieans, whose agenda is to destroy all your wine industry and change all your gold into... say cheese?... You already sold your stocks?
[link to www.forbes.com]
Excellen, er, sad... But never mind...
You can´t even imagine how powerful they are (much muuuuuuuuuuuucccccccch more than the fantastic four maybe the fab four themselves): for instance they succeed to enrol me, (and as you can imagine using you own brain or a think-tank, Myself and all My avatars We are not stupid, and We are not imagining things), yeah really man, they enrolled me despite the fact that I´ve bean a former Sick/Mo(r(W))on/PacMan/Choko/Rehal loyalist!!!!
They can at will summon a big UFO to hoover over your palazzio for six days and three quarters of 24 hours long or command a shift flip-flop-like in your picnic so your Lewis XIV carpet will appear in Philadel, er, Antartica and you´ll be romelecularezid as a Roswe, er, Corona shaken polar beer...
All I can add is this: take a look at their website: HERE ARE PICTS OF WHAT YOUR ENEMEY IS DOING (WARNING VERY GRAPHIC):
The Barbahouse:
[link to www.bookofjoe.com]
The Barbarireiqi Playing Cards:
[link to www.barbapapa.fr]
Hmmm... Now don´t you feel fear? Aren´t you afraid... a little bit frightened... or much better... terrorized? Non abbiate paura? Haben-Sie keine Angst?
So I won´t repeat it twice Myster President, please be very panicked facing these AliTheChemysts and right now, otherwise the situation could soon come out of control like in say armageddon or... deep impact in your respectfully fac, er, discheneyland, with my best regards of (Big Brother Merchandiser), ok, enough with the Barbapapaieans, that´s what you all do have to shut up about toMMy and the Scientologists (((but don´t forget that it´s just an example here, Ok)))?"
Remember to sign with a menaci, er, cryptic "." or "...".
Ok, now, sorry but I´ve to finish to bring home all the orange/blue T-shirts and plastic industrial banners rented to the ukrainian revolutionnaries and to send all these advertisements-gadgets to the so-called but hopefully same-colored opponents in Israel...
I can assure you that my tiger and myself We are not stupid, and We are not imagining things, but I´ve still so many threads to cry wolf in, using all my Double You, avatars, monikers and so on...
For sure my report to my puppete, er, C.I.A. chiefs will never be ready in time and once again I will be late to my daily session of aikido-dance...
Exhausted... usual smilies
BINGO!!!!
A Castleopiaea INSIDER has posted to entertain us good GLP Folks!!! Sounds like Joe Quinn (aka Ignatius O´Reilly)!!!
Course it could be Orri Erling on too much Carlsberg!!!
We may never know!!!!!!!!!! |
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