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| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 33373
10/26/2005 9:34 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Vincent- there are many fascinating things that have emerged from the whole V vs Cs saga, some of it found in the twisted mind manipulation that Laura worked on your friend and cosmic collaborator, Jay Weidner. In the long, circuitous, endlessly enthralling "Wliey pages" at the Cass site, I have foun d many hours of valuable consideration. I think that the interaction between Laura and Jay is key, for many reasons, some of them totally removed from the expected plot level unfolding. Jay, in fact, uses this incident with the book as his personal trigger to "spill the beans" totally to Laura regarding his own plot level of the hidden masters of light who control the world.
I had mentioned that the book, "the Secret Architecture of Nature", seems to figure into things in a keystone fashion. I know that you have denied this, and whatever reasons you have for doing so are your own and I will not speculate. However, Jay clearly felt this book was one of the most important things about his entire relatiopnship with you, and Laura as well seems to have been "instructed" to zero in on it. And despite your denials on this point, V, you apparently wrote all about it yourself years ago, so what gives?
On 27 Dec 01 Laura writes to Jay:
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Have a look here:
[link to www.alternativeapproaches.com]
Where VB writes:
"Strangely enough, one of the most esoteric and enigmatic books of the 20th century, The Architecture of Nature, written by Master Pierre, edited by AOR and privately published in Paris in 1943, equates the hexagrams of the I Ching with subjects as diverse as Gothic architecture, the kabbalah, and the symbols of alchemy and secret societies."
Is this true?
(I´m filling in some blanks in my timeline in Noah...) I noted that this book was mentioned in AMET, so I wondered if anyone else had said anything about it, so did a search on the net and found the above. I have the idea that if it was all about Kabbalkah, it wasn´t by Fulcanelli.
L
Jay writes back the same night:
L You are making me really regret talking to VB. I had no idea he wrote this. Well that is the limit of his knowledge. He does make it sound as if he has read the book.
Actually the book was edited by A (Omega) R.
No it was not written by Fulcanelli but by one of his students. It is a book that is a search for the hidden tradition behind all ancient concepts of reality. It brilliantly compares many ancient concepts and reveals what makes them whole.
It is a very dangerous book so please be discreet.
The book reveals the workings of the light masters. I showed it to B. Donvez who tranbslated "Dwellings". After mucn pondering she reported that the book was too difficult for her to translate. Deborah Foreman, who came to visit VB in NC, wanted a copy and that is why she went there. I think she was hoping for a peek. Of course he doesn´t have a copy so he made up a bunch of hooey about how he had to protect the truth from the likes of her. She is a good translator but doesn´t have the depth needed either. If B. Donvez coiuldn´t do it than this is not going to be easy. I have a rudimentary knowledge of esoteric French and have hacked my way through the underbrush but it is so thick that it is astonishing.
What you must understand is that there is another society on this planet. They are completely secret. They live apart from us. They rule the psyhci landscape of the planet. They hide from those that think they are in control. They publish books among themselves. These books are impossible to get unless one knows where to look. I called all the esoteric bookstores on Earth (in 1998) and no one had heard of the book. Schwaller De Lubicz´s library was completely taken by this society.
They allow intiates inside very rarely but they help those of us who seek. They permit wonderous miracles and impossible openings. AON should never have gotten into my hands. It would have stayed that way until VB revealed to the world that JR aquired a copy. Now JR is in serious trouble. Now that VB has told everyone that I have a copy - I am in serious trouble. This entire affair has, at its heart, this book.
There are other books that no one has ever heard of also. I have glimpsed them and they reveal the final secrets of the human experience. These are very real secrets that transmute human matter and turn it into light.
VB, in his ego lust, must have told you the secret. He got it from me (yes, I am the fool). So I know that he told you. If VB did not , at least, intimate the great secret to you then that can only mean that he is definately an agent. So please tell me honestly, did VB tell you the secret?
This society is more powerful than the illuminati. They are permitting the present events to occur because time itself is coming to an end. All of us will be able to be part of the great transmutation at the end of time. That is what the Cross at Hendaye is all about. There is no doubt about any of this and all of the hooey from Z. Sitchen and the rest about orbit of a planet may well be true but it isn´t very important. This is the real thing and all of the rest is a theatrical show designed to make you look the other way. Aliens, entities, ghosts, angels are insignificant compared to the truth. And, I have to say, the C´s have not told you the about the secret.
So I need to know if he told you the great secret. The funny thing about this is that, even though I foolishly told him the secret, he may not understand it. The secret protects itself in truly amazing ways.
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Obviously, V, Jay is talking here about the very core of his personal plot level, and nothing could be more important in his interactions with Laura. She is vaccuuming him here, naturally, and he apparently was totally sucked in, as his next response, on 28 Dec indicates. Laura seems very interested in whether or not you ever owned this book:
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L No, he did not get a copy. Everything he said in that article, he recieved from me. He did glimpse it once but that is all. He wrote what I told him in an ingenius way.
The book is substantial. Probably 600 pages of dense text. There is a lot of algebra and geometry.
The secret has to do with how one transforms into light. But, now that I am remembering, VB kept arguing with me. He wanted the secret to be something that you took, like a pill or a plant, or something. I can prove that this is part of the lore of the counterfeit tradition. I got so frustrated, one time on the phone, that I blurted it out to him. He seemed like he understood. But now that I think about it, he might have thought, in his arrogance, that, since he didn´t think it up, it wasn´t right.
But I am right. Have you read ´Pillar of Celestial Fire´? It isn´t great but it is an indication of what kind of motion is occurring.
Several people, or groups, are on to the secret. The masters have decided to let it out. But it must be done in the right way because it is so dangerous. The Illuminati (not much light) know that if the secret gets out, they are doomed. They have stuffed it for 1700 years.
But the time draws near.
The quality of light dictates the quality of time. Look out your window. The quality of light is changing. What do you think stained glass windows are meant to achieve? Is it just for beauty´s sake? Look again and think.
The main reason I am speaking to you is because you have some influence. If you are responsible, and truly discreet, you would never rush any of this to print. This is the real thing. A friend of mine has said to me that we are playing a game, and if one of us falls, there are always five guys, sitting on the bench, waiting to take our place. That´s what this is like. I have decided to play the game very carefully. Even in this I have been betrayed.
If you knew the secret, if you knew that it would transform everything in an instant, what would you do? The masters are releasing it at the end of time. It is the end of time because they are releasing it. This is what the story of Jesus is really about. This is what is meant by a second coming. There will be a time when there is a second coming of the secret knowledge. When this is released, it will cause the apocalypse.
It begs the question: what would you do, with your influence, if you knew the secret?
And to test the water even further - why don´t you ask the Cs: What is the great secret of human transformation that has been hidden for many centuries?
I look forward to your answers.
J
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OK then V, what is the story here? This key correspondence between Laura and Jay reaches its tipping point over the issue of this book and Weidner´s plot level scenario of the so-called light masters. To the interested, objective observer, this moment in the unfolding saga is of great interest. Though you personally may have been burned by Jay´s words, and wish to forget it, I would really like to hear your comment on at least why Jay would feel this book to be so critical, and why Laura´s handlers would instruct her to probe him about it.
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| kris
User ID: 36598
10/27/2005 1:58 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
in reply to abraxas post when asked to relate an account of my experience with cassiopaeans
thanks for your interest, have posted on this thread in earlier pages, resigned from the cass lists in 2002, nothing recent.
abraxas asked who the people are who i care for and who are still in: laura and ark.
that line, ´friend, you drank some darkness´
is from a poem by robert bly, and i could have adapted it to say we all did, not just any one of us.
good night all, may the ocean of wisdom carry us to enlightenment, and may all sentient beings be rescued from suffering by the power of compassion. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36582
10/27/2005 2:09 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anders
User ID: 36639
10/27/2005 6:25 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Bump. |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 36653
10/27/2005 8:03 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
OK then V, what is the story here? This key correspondence between Laura and Jay reaches its tipping point over the issue of this book and Weidner´s plot level scenario of the so-called light masters. To the interested, objective observer, this moment in the unfolding saga is of great interest. Though you personally may have been burned by Jay´s words, and wish to forget it, I would really like to hear your comment on at least why Jay would feel this book to be so critical, and why Laura´s handlers would instruct her to probe him about it.
V: Steve, to fully explain I would have to betray several trusts, something that I am NOT about to do. Jay is worse than a moron, and demonstrated it conclusively by pandering to LKJ, not once but several times. I have a code of honor, which is why Jay´s name remains on two books that he had little or nothing to do with writing. Once I give my word, I do NOT go back on it...
Having said that, I can tell you the history of the book as I uncovered it in the course of our investigations. It was published in Paris in the spring of 1943, passed by a Gestapo censor who was killed just a few weeks later as a spy, and there were roughly 50 copies printed. Each of these no doubt has a story to tell about their subsequent journeys, and some disappeared. There are copies in several of the major museum/libraries in Europe and America, and a few copies made their way into private hands. Sri Aurobindo´s ashram in India has one for example.
It was written in the mid 1890s in a very erudite, but somewhat archaic, French with a mixture of Greek, Latin, Hebrew, Arabic and Basque. Compiled by "Master Pierre," the text sketches out a series of interconnections, through sacred geometry, between all the major mystical reality models. It was edited for publication, given some things in the text, in the late 1920s or early 30s, by AOR, which could be either Schwaller du Lubitz or someone in the Alpha et Omega lodge, Mathers´ restructured Paris GD. The original author, "Master Pierre" was probably Antoine D´Abbadie, a famous astronomer and scientist of the late 19th century, whose family was responsible for moving the Hendaye monument.
It is just possible that it was meant to be Fulcanelli´s third book, although it could be a simple link to the Paris GD from the same sources a generation or so before. Pierre Dujols, the author of the text of Le Mystere, had certainly studied it, or at least the notes and drawing of the original manuscripts, as had the authors of Dwellings.
Once the research was done, Jay changed his opinion. Not surprisingly since it pointed in a direction that he really knew nothing about... At that point, Laura was making a big deal about it because Jay was responding like the moron he truly is... She was looking for whatever Jay knew that she could use in the future. The mysterious book disappeared from the saga almost as quickly as it entered it, as both of them had no clue what they were discussing...
VB |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
10/27/2005 3:04 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
It has been known in Britain since pre Roman times - back before Stonehenge in fact four and a half thousand years ago that the Son of Man travels down the Dragon Line. It is a line that is a hive of UFO activity, places like Stonehenge along it, churches called st Michael and the dragon and many natural landscape features too. New Jerusalem (like the hymn - England´s green and pleasant land) in fact - Merlin, Jesus coming here with Joseph of Arimathea, and Jesus buried in Glastonbury Abbey. All ancient local legends that predate our history. Athelstan Eavis who holds the big festivals there every Summer Solstice is the real King Arthur in fact. His now famous Worthy Farm is Camelot (Came millions in fact). And much more, most of them will say the best weekend of their life - one year or another. I rented the farmhouse in 1971 after the free festival famous for the extra terrestrial visit among other things (Yes the young David Bowie performed his new Space Oddity hit, Melanie was there. Maharaji, A big silver pyramid stage in the Vale of Avalon within sight of the Glastonbury Tor. A very ancient festival at midsummer in fact. Also renowned locally for its huge ufo activity. Natural Architecture is all about this sort of thing.
The Dragon Line runs from St Michael´s Mount at the tip of Cornwall, along the widest possible way to Norfolk. Anders probably lives on it. Are you all coming over to London to take in this great and wonderful natural phenomenon.? I bet the C´s are hpping on trains right now. Son of Man is boss of human and ´aliens´ alike and unites higher and lower thus you see natural landscape merged with human monuments and sacred sites in one perfectly long line at the country´s widest point. Crop circles all along it whoever makes them - some by both I suspect - ie the circlemakers are exchanging messages and competing with the others. This is not sect stuff by the way. It is local legend. |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
10/27/2005 3:32 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Vincent do you do a Dragon Line Tour? This is what our country needs right now - American tourists. I have a camcorder now do you want to make the movie that sells the tour. Can guarantee things to see and happen. Curiously all my grandchildren have been born somewhere on the line, and my daughter. Bring a raincoat. Also unlike Abraxas I need someone to write my book for me and you being an honest man - and me stumbling on that first post of yours, then my computer locking in to it so it still comes up first, why look in Yellow pages. US is so much bigger than UK too. How much will it cost me if you write and publish the book and get famous and very rich? It is called West this place in the West Country (on the Dragon Line) that the Egyptians spoke of and the field of reeds they visited Summer Solstice 1971 (witnessed by thousands may I say). This much channelled event in those days being the inspiration for the BenBen (son of son) and the pyramids, which in turn inspired that big silver pyramid that day. And what happened next. |
| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 33373
10/27/2005 7:34 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Good morning guys- I decide to become a member here, so if you thought you could get rid of me, too bad...
Anyway, kris wrote:
"thanks for your interest, have posted on this thread in earlier pages, resigned from the cass lists in 2002, nothing recent."
Can you inform me as to which pages, so I can read your backstory? I have read this entire thread over the last few weeks, but the details are lost in the mass of info and names.
"abraxas asked who the people are who i care for and who are still in: laura and ark."
What is your relationship with them exactly? Are (or rather, were) they guru figures to you?
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| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 33373
10/27/2005 7:47 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
V: Steve, to fully explain I would have to betray several trusts, something that I am NOT about to do. Jay is worse than a moron, and demonstrated it conclusively by pandering to LKJ, not once but several times.
Good morning V!
I appreciate that you cannot discuss too much about this book in detail. It now seems irrelevant to the overall Laura-Cs plot anyway. I am of course still VERY interested, but I´ll not press you further on the book itself (respecting your honorable choices), and I won´t get into the whole saga of you and Jay per se. But just a couple more questions, if you would, on related issues.
Most importantly, V, what do you say about Jay´s plot level involving the masters of light who are secretly controlling everything? Do you think such a group is actual, or is it just mytho-historic plot elements in storyline fashion? We don´t need to get into "the secret", ie mutation into light beings, because that is off topic completley. But about the light masters, it is very important because this is a contact scenario being spun by Jay, which is, in principle at least, no different than any other cosmic plot, no more valid necessarily than the wave-riding friends from C-land. Or IS it more valid? This is the key point I would like your gnosis on.
Also, can you generally sum up what exactly about Fulcanelli´s work Laura ripped off from you guys, what specifically she zeroed in on with her transliterations of AMET?
Thanks, V. I know alot of this isn´t pleasant to discuss, but it IS important for us to see the whole picture.
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| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 33373
10/27/2005 7:51 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Also V, can you comment on my big posts found on page 54? I put alot of thought into those points and they really need further illumination, not just to be left unanswered. Particularly, my take on the OPs and Laura´s psychology re: family annihilation. Thanks.
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| Anders
User ID: 36796
10/27/2005 7:53 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hi Abraxas,
Kris is a friend of mine, and he is not very good at saying ´back off,´ and neither are you at intuiting such!
Not very good IMO from your POV. You come across (so u like to think) as so clued up, yet you do not seem to have the basics, and that to me is an obvious flag.
One wonders what is missing.
A dunce could see what was said, yet you blunder forwards.
No offence - just go back and look at your last few demands.
I thought the intent flew right over your head - in fact of course it did, because like some sort of ´interrogator´ you pushed it again.
Do you have any empathy at all?
And if so, why are you exhibiting non such?
No offence, I say again.
Why do you not have the most basic of human skills?
We all have ´free will´ and one cannot demand stuff.
I have to say you come across as a demander.
Not a good trait IMO - I see it as STS.
Vincent just did the same thing with you - get it?
He had to obviously maintain his credibility here, whilst dealing with a internet phantom trying IMO to ferret out far too much information.
You were ´demanding´ that he divulge stuff.
Why should he do that?
Why should I, why should anyone?
For all we know you could be an agent provocateur - so could anyone on this thread.
So Abraxas who do you work for?
What is your intent?
Why are you asking so many questions from Kris?
Have you the capacity to read this thread?
All answers will be found within.
At the moment you are doing a great job in stirring the old brain cells, but alarm bells are ringing and - perhaps u can figure the rest out?
I have major worries about you my friend.
I trust you as far as I could spit into a gale. |
| Anders
User ID: 36796
10/27/2005 7:58 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
PS
Abraxas
you have IMO derailed this thread in your last few posts
PLEASE take your interrogation of VB and whomever else OFFLINE
thank you |
| Anders
User ID: 36796
10/27/2005 8:05 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
And we scream past the big MASONIC (ssshh) 33,333
YES THIRTY-THREE THOUSAND!!!!!!!
hits on this thread!
500 hits a day!!!
"They´re on our left, they´re on our right, they´re in front of us, they´re behind us; they can´t get away this time!"
Must be the Castleopea CULT folks, folks!!!
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| Anders
User ID: 36796
10/27/2005 8:22 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I rented the farmhouse in 1971 after the free festival famous for the extra terrestrial visit among other things (Yes the young David Bowie performed his new Space Oddity hit
I saw him at Hammersmith Odeon shortly thereafter John - his last concert he said! (liar) Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - I think he´s done about 10,000 shows since then...
LOL |
| Anders
User ID: 36796
10/27/2005 8:26 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
The Dragon Line runs from St Michael´s Mount at the tip of Cornwall,
wonderful place
along the widest possible way to Norfolk. Anders probably lives on it.
yes i do
i am v near avebury and stonehenge
Are you all coming over to London to take in this great and wonderful natural phenomenon.? I bet the C´s are hpping on trains right now. Son of Man is boss of human and ´aliens´ alike and unites higher and lower thus you see natural landscape merged with human monuments and sacred sites in one perfectly long line at the country´s widest point. Crop circles all along it whoever makes them - some by both I suspect - ie the circlemakers are exchanging messages and competing with the others. This is not sect stuff by the way. It is local legend.
I have seen CCs
They are real
But lest Abraxas think I am being unfair, I think we need to stick to the thread title
Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? |
| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 33373
10/27/2005 8:40 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Anders- what a surprising change-up you´ve just thrown me, I will have to re-evaluate you and my presence here. Curious, too- I just officially joined the forum today because I have been enjoying it so mcuh.
Anyway, you wrote:
"Hi Abraxas,
"Kris is a friend of mine, and he is not very good at saying ´back off,´ and neither are you at intuiting such!"
Well Anders I guess I misread the intentions of this thread- I thought you wanted to examine the whole story, which means not "backing off" if we want to get at the truth, right?
"Not very good IMO from your POV. You come across (so u like to think) as so clued up, yet you do not seem to have the basics, and that to me is an obvious flag.
One wonders what is missing.
A dunce could see what was said, yet you blunder forwards.
No offence - just go back and look at your last few demands."
This issue of "demands" is lame, in my opinion. I am just directing the flow of dialogue, asking questions, etc- and why shouldn´t I "demand" responses to the stuff that I post here, which I put alot of thought and effort into? Are my efforts for nothing and not valued?
"I thought the intent flew right over your head - in fact of course it did, because like some sort of ´interrogator´ you pushed it again.
Do you have any empathy at all?
And if so, why are you exhibiting non such?
No offence, I say again."
Do we want to pass around the crying towel, or do we want to get at the deep problems raised by this and every cult? I am not here to hold people´s hands. It is a mistake when dealing with this material to get too emotional. I am objective, yes, and removed from the feelings that you and kris and others have. That makes my point of view more valuable to you, unless of course you arent interested in getting at the real issues.
"Why do you not have the most basic of human skills?
We all have ´free will´ and one cannot demand stuff.
I have to say you come across as a demander."
I am only "demanding" an examination of the important factors. I thought that is what you wanted- you praised me previously for douing that. Just because I got too close to personal stuff, now I´m an asshole? Hey, what dpo you want from me?
"Not a good trait IMO - I see it as STS."
I don´t care, in fact the entire STS-STO thing is a lame hypocritical concept in my opinion.
"Vincent just did the same thing with you - get it?"
Uh, no, I don´t get it.
"He had to obviously maintain his credibility here, whilst dealing with a internet phantom trying IMO to ferret out far too much information.
You were ´demanding´ that he divulge stuff.
Why should he do that?
Why should I, why should anyone?"
As far as "divulging" stuff, I was again zeroing in on the important issues. Obviously, major plot level elements that Laura and Jay focused on are of interest. If V doesn´t want to dosucss it, like I said to him, I respect that.
"For all we know you could be an agent provocateur - so could anyone on this thread."
Paranoia is a destroyer.
"So Abraxas who do you work for?"
I work for the Goddess Intelligence.
"What is your intent?"
To examine all the important issues relating to cult phenomena generally, and Laura and the Cs specifically.
"Why are you asking so many questions from Kris?"
Because he obviously has important first hand points of view on everything.
"Have you the capacity to read this thread?
All answers will be found within."
That´s why I just simply asked for page references to his previous posts- why is that so offensive?
"At the moment you are doing a great job in stirring the old brain cells, but alarm bells are ringing and - perhaps u can figure the rest out?"
Figure out what? I am not here to play games with you, Anders.
"I have major worries about you my friend.
I trust you as far as I could spit into a gale."
Hey, if you don´t want me posting here, just say the words: "Fuck off, Abraxas", and I am GONE.
I am simply trying to help the unfolding illumination. If my input is not wanted, fine- have a nice life.
So tell me- do I stay or do I go?
Your choice.
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| Anders
User ID: 36796
10/27/2005 8:42 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Free will
LOL
don´t PUT it on ME!!!
LOL
another flag
do what you like, you know best, LOL |
| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 33373
10/27/2005 8:58 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
"Free will
LOL
don´t PUT it on ME!!!
LOL
another flag
do what you like, you know best, LOL"
OK Anders, Ok. Whatever.
Obviously, the direction I tried to take things in- an intense, direct examination of all the factors involved in this whole saga- is not the direction that you want to go.
Therefore I don´t know what you want from this thread, and given this bullshit attack you´re casting at me, I really have ceased to care.
You can burn all your "flags" because they signify nothing.
If anyone wants to reply to my posts and discuss things on the frequency I have established, then I will respond.
Nothing further will come, unless asked for.
You´ve made a big mistake, Anders, in taking this approach. You have soured the milk, and for what good reason? Just to avoid too much light being shed on all of this? What a fucking WASTE.
Casting aspersions on me, your paranoid nonsense about "who I am working for" etc, just shows how desperately you need the type of perspective I have been trying to inject. But as you say, "free will".
I´ve got much to offer this examination, but ONLY if it is wanted. And yes, it IS on you, this is YOUR thread, Anders, and YOU are the one telling me to shut up.
Shutting up, then.
YOUR LOSS.
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| Anders
User ID: 36796
10/27/2005 9:00 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
You´ve made a big mistake, Anders, in taking this approach. You have soured the milk, and for what good reason? Just to avoid too much light being shed on all of this? What a fucking WASTE.
Casting aspersions on me, your paranoid nonsense about "who I am working for" etc, just shows how desperately you need the type of perspective I have been trying to inject. But as you say, "free will".
I´ve got much to offer this examination, but ONLY if it is wanted. And yes, it IS on you, this is YOUR thread, Anders, and YOU are the one telling me to shut up.
Shutting up, then.
YOUR LOSS.
I´m a double pollinator. |
| Anders
User ID: 36796
10/27/2005 9:44 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Bump Bump. |
| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 33373
10/27/2005 11:35 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Unless I get quality replies, this WILL be my last post to this forum.
Anders, you wrote:
"But lest Abraxas think I am being unfair,"
You ARE being terribly unfair- to yourself, to others involved in this subject, and to the spirit of truth in general.
If you do not seriously explore Laura´s psyche and the hidden variables of her plot level, as well as other important aspects of who and/or what is currently behind the cult, then you are shirking your responsibility and this thread amounts to nothing more than a support group, holding a line that becomes more irrelevant every day.
Don´t you people realize HOW dangerous the Cass cult is, and how this danger DEMANDS that we seriously, brutally, intensely examine ALL the facets, ESPECIALLY the unpleasant ones?
Do you not realize how this whole cult phenomenon plays into apocalyptic plots which you should be very, very concerned about?
It´s so ironic, Anders. Your bad reaction to me has led you to reinstate Laura´s OP theology yourself- ie, if what I am saying is too shocking, unconventional, and "not what you want to hear", then of course I MUST be "working for someone" or be on some "interrogation agenda" or whatever. You selling a pathetic version of OP paranoia, showing us precisely what happens when someone can´t really get out of a cult, even after getting out physically.
You want to rant on and on about the House Raffle, but when I pulled back the curtain and revealed the most likely reason WHY it was perpetrated, you have nothing to say except to accuse me of this OP nonsense. So who is really serving the needs of whom?
Vincent, I hope that YOU will step up to the plate and restore some kind of meaningful dialogue with me on the issues I´ve raised, if of course Anders will permit it.
This is too important an opportunity for it to be pissed away over a bunch of NOTHING.
I actually do care about these issues and want to get at the truth here. Does anyone else?
Anyway, as I said, last post until and unless you guys drop this paranoid OP-style nonsense and choose to reply with the intelligence and commitment to uncovering the truth this material demands.
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| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
10/28/2005 2:49 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Anders you honey - now how could I think you live there of all the places in the world. I will keep to the thread´s purpose but you know how I love to throw stuff in too - this is the only place.
The cult is not dangerous really Abraxas. They are quite intelligent people but they are in the wrong country. The 1943 book suggests France is the place when of course England is, but we would not want the Germans to have known that in 1943.
Anders may be the man. I have a good instinct and of course he is the double pollinator. Let me know if you are in town Anders - we can meet to eat. And you are right about Bowie. There were loads of us wannabees there that day. |
| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 37094
10/28/2005 11:56 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
John, you are actually denying the dangers that the C-cult presents? Man, we are not living in the same world at all, at all.
What the fuck do you people really want? No matter what sort of coded cagey-ness you feel is necessary, and regardless of how difficult emotionally it is to examine all of this in detail, you who were/are on the inside have a specific responsibility to speak out and bring illumination to what is clearly a very dangerous and important cult operation. It´s either that, or you are a bunch of whining hypocrites and/or pathetic cowards.
In apocalyptic end-days like these, cult ops such as the C-saga are where some of the most important events of the time are occuring. We must all be informed. Those Who Know have a responsibility to act, it is that simple. All that is required for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing, remember?
So if you are going to try and tell my the C-cult is not dangerous, and/or if you are going to force me to "Back off" and limit the scope of our "STO" investigations for purely personal "STS" reasons, and/or if the whole Big Picture is going to be ignored and the unpleasant material put aside, THEN my friends, there is nothing happening here of any value and I will not indulge in such hypocrisy, which only strengthens the likes of L´ark.
So, I will be watching this thread, and if any replies of worth are made in the spirit of truth, I will engage. |
| Sinista
User ID: 36871
10/28/2005 12:05 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Even though i don´t post here any more since
trolls DO attack, i´m here to let AI know
that this board has been taken over by spooks
LONG ago! Whomever a lot of these fuck´s work
for i dunno, don´t care, but rest assured
this is an UNGODLY bunch! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
There still be a place left for GODLIKE people
instead of these mere PRODUCED ICONS... this
place be Peniel, in your mind. Go there. NOW!
PS: Whats with your name? AI sounds a bit devilish to me... |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
10/28/2005 1:54 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hi spooks and Abraxus, my new friend in need, and all.
I imagine:
(1) the house raffle - ´we got to go to France now, sell the house and get there quick. Ok raffle the house and worry about it all later because we are going to be very rich and very quick but only if we get to France´.
(2) the rip off - ´listen kids we are trying our best to keep the whole thing going. We have given up everything for this, house, friends, family. Time you put a bit into it to´
(3) the intention - ´we alone can save the human´
I have been there and so has every sect - even the local church. The house raffle? Impatience makes many go wrong. Laura and Ark are desparate to get there first. Adam and Eve returned to rule over us. A lot of businesses do this sort of thing too at the beginning. It comes out eventually and is a big mistake. Evil?
It is misguided and unfair and I hope that they will rectify all of this by remembering and honouring their debt to many of the readers of this thread. But evil? As to what they are channelling. We all have the liberty of staying away from this. Most God fearing people want nothing to do with a ouija board or anything coming from it. In this case the material is unpalatable to me. Yes I can see the evil in some of this but I would not necessarily call the cult evil because of it or I have to apply that to all religions and politics too. Many religous leaders (Mohammed included) have at some time retracted an earlier statement or belief. The C´s can yet come clean about all of this and learn from it. Laura can still be saved. My old guru spouted off about gays etc. He certainly lived to regret saying it if not thinking it. They are imperfect - but evil?
Is the Goddess Kali by any chance? I cant visit your site - GLP is far too many for me. I think of the thread as something like a nice club with interesting people who drop by. They do talk about other things as well. But you know what the club is called - so most times I post I mention her. Abraxus GLP is famous for people announcing their last post. (1) you are not allowed to leave (2) it is like smoking (3) you learn to take criticism - and react right back. Look at Anders probably calling me - cult idiot. (A - Ok it was JFM phone number similar to my mum who is on the line2) to please you. And I am - isn´t life like that and friends. Not evil though. Are you sure Laura is not the Goddess enticing you ever closer? Just a thought as that would be a 5 dimensional embrace. She does this to strong charismatic men. There you are you can discuss the Goddess relevant to thread. |
| Anders
User ID: 37155
10/29/2005 2:37 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
You ARE being terribly unfair- to yourself, to others involved in this subject, and to the spirit of truth in general.
If you do not seriously explore Laura´s psyche and the hidden variables of her plot level, as well as other important aspects of who and/or what is currently behind the cult, then you are shirking your responsibility and this thread amounts to nothing more than a support group, holding a line that becomes more irrelevant every day.
It is intended as a support group!
But perhaps you don´t realise - you have seen how THEY and their minions have repeatedly published my peronal and private emails to Laura here on this thread - so naturally others are loath to be OUTED here lest the same happen to them.
Your continued asking for names and times and etc etc can thus be construed many ways.
You´ll notice in my post i said no offence to you twice - I mean that, but I needed to be honest and say what needed to be said - I also said you will find answers to many of your question within these 50+ pages if u have the patience to wade through them.
If you keep demanding stuff of people it is a turn off and you will frighten people away IMO. But that is just me, I cannot speak of course for everyone else.
Don´t you people realize HOW dangerous the Cass cult is, and how this danger DEMANDS that we seriously, brutally, intensely examine ALL the facets, ESPECIALLY the unpleasant ones?
Of course.
Do you not realize how this whole cult phenomenon plays into apocalyptic plots which you should be very, very concerned about?
Yes.
It´s so ironic, Anders. Your bad reaction to me has led you to reinstate Laura´s OP theology yourself- ie, if what I am saying is too shocking, unconventional, and "not what you want to hear", then of course I MUST be "working for someone"
No - but that IS a possibility, is it not? Your contined ´pushing´ for names etc - you could quite easily be working (from one POV) for the L´Arks, who are monitoring this thread every day, as you know.
or be on some "interrogation agenda" or whatever. You selling a pathetic version of OP paranoia, showing us precisely what happens when someone can´t really get out of a cult, even after getting out physically.
Not at all. I am extremely wary of internet people until I get to know them. It´s very simple, and a good idea.
You want to rant on and on about the House Raffle, but when I pulled back the curtain and revealed the most likely reason WHY it was perpetrated, you have nothing to say except to accuse me of this OP nonsense. So who is really serving the needs of whom?
LOL. I never accused you of being an orgasmic pothole. I have no idea where you got that idea, I don´t believe in the whole nazi eugenics of OPs, the thought disgusts me.
Vincent, I hope that YOU will step up to the plate and restore some kind of meaningful dialogue with me on the issues I´ve raised, if of course Anders will permit it.
This is not my thread, it is question dogma´s, I am merely intent on keeping it bumped so it does not go off into the archives.
This is too important an opportunity for it to be pissed away over a bunch of NOTHING.
I actually do care about these issues and want to get at the truth here. Does anyone else?
We all do.
Anyway, as I said, last post until and unless you guys drop this paranoid OP-style nonsense and choose to reply with the intelligence and commitment to uncovering the truth this material demands.
Go for it. I´ve had my say.
Over to you. |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
10/29/2005 6:12 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Dear Anders - I think the way you are treated is evil. You seem to have the capacity to wind these people up and it makes me think that with your going they lost something very important. Take it as a compliment. Laura and Ark seem a bit frightened of you and that will have come from their source. My investigations show that they were not the only channels as you point out, and perhaps losing you was when the source gave up on them. Wrong place wrong people. They have a way back but it is most unlikely they will take it. I want to meet with you can I give you a bell at JFM? or 07791 585956. |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
10/29/2005 8:13 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
By the way if you are reading this Laura, I am quite worried for you. Please at least consider taking that way out - come out real soon with your hands up, make amends with your friends, do the film about it all with Jay, the book with VB and the late night shows etc. You might even be allowed back in Florida one day. We are all imperfect. thank God. When you go a long way the smallest mistake with the steering can take you down completely the wrong path. Head back out of the woods while you can. Love your enemies cause they are your real friends. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 37183
10/29/2005 8:39 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 37183
10/29/2005 8:40 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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