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| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 29088
11/4/2005 9:09 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hello again friends (?), as promised I have been watching and am responding, since Anders seems to have come to his senses.
First, "Sinita" said:
"i´m here to let AI know
that this board has been taken over by spooks
LONG ago!"
I realize now,m hvaing read some of the other threads on this forum, that paranoia is rank among those here, and not for no reason either. There is much shadowplay and of course, we know that the C-cult IS infiltrated/controlled by at least one, if not three, intel ops.
"Whats with your name? AI sounds a bit devilish to me.."
ABRAXAS is a Gnostic deity that is beyond all opposites, so it is, and I am, equal parts angel and devil.
Now then, John, still misspelling my name like an idiot (or an asshole!), wrote:
"Abraxus GLP is famous for people announcing their last post. (1) you are not allowed to leave (2) it is like smoking (3) you learn to take criticism - and react right back."
What I said was, unless I get some feedback that is worth my time, it would be my last post.
And I don´t care about criticism- I care about hypocrisy.
And John, please, don´t waste our time with this shit:
"Are you sure Laura is not the Goddess enticing you ever closer? Just a thought as that would be a 5 dimensional embrace. She does this to strong charismatic men."
When I stop laughing, I´ll remember to dismiss you utterly, John, for being a complete fool.
Anders wrote:
"you have seen how THEY and their minions have repeatedly published my peronal and private emails to Laura here on this thread - so naturally others are loath to be OUTED here lest the same happen to them."
If it is that bad, and people are that afraid, talk in code or something, but those who have been there DO have the responsiblity to cast as much harsh light as possible on the whole saga. That means submitting to "interrogation" from characters like me, IF of course your goal is to get at the truth.
"If you keep demanding stuff of people it is a turn off and you will frighten people away IMO."
So again I ask, what the fuck do you WANT?
Do you people REALLY want to take down this cult, and expose its full operation? If so I will be happy to help you do it. I can be one of your greatest possible allies against them, but NOT if you are going to play stupid games with me and refuse to go the distance required to accomplish the goal.
SO Anders, you have yet to display any true dedication to taking down this cult. ALL that you have done thusfar, and yes I have read all 57 pages of the thread twice, is beat your angry drum, pass around the crying towel, and run the expected, seen-it-all-before bases.
Do you actually want to HURT them to damage them, to cripple them? Or do you want to HELP them through your ineffective hypocritical posing?
Finally, V wrote:
"Steve has made some very good points, valuable insights indeed, but in his usual manner has managed to stamp on some toes. He can be a pest, and an irritating one, but he isn´t a shill for the cassiopaeans...lol!"
Thanks for doing that V, it is appreciated.
But really, will you please address the issues I raised on page 54? Until you and others do that, I am not going to watse any more of my time here, because this thread continues to be about and to accomplish NOTHING AT ALL. You know me, V, and what I can contribute to this thread if given the free reign and cooperation to do so. I know how to cripple the cult, to really hurt them, but it sure wont be pretty, and it will require serious dedication from you and everyone else capable of adding data to the discourse.
YOU GUYS need me far more than I need this forum.
If you really want to achieve substantial damage against the cult, start by addressing the points I posed on page 54.
Otherwise, I will back off totally, and nothing more will come from this thread. Be honest and admit it- this thread has stagnated. I´ll help take it to the next level, but not alone.
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| Anders
User ID: 39175
11/4/2005 9:27 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Welcome back Abraxas!!! |
| Anders
User ID: 39175
11/4/2005 9:29 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Do you actually want to HURT them to damage them, to cripple them?
No. I operate like Gandhi. A sort of punk Gandhi doing the pogo. |
| Anders
User ID: 39175
11/4/2005 10:19 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
good quote from him
"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 240
11/4/2005 11:23 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 240
11/5/2005 12:04 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 39338
11/5/2005 1:32 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I´ll have to admit that I am puzzled by the idea of "bringing down" the cult. It seems to me that they already spend a good deal of time wallowing around "down there." If that´s where people want to invest their effort and energy, why not let them? After all, they have lessons to learn and they will have plenty more chances.
If there is one thing I don´t do it is to go around trying to save people who don´t want to be saved. At this time I only know of one person who is totally immersed in a cult and she will be until she dies. And that´s ok, even if very sad, because it is her choice. Communicating with her is like finding a mere fragment of her original personality. Even at its worst, I doubt that the C-cult is that damaging. It may be presumptious to assume that concern for the poor exploited individuals is the reason for taking down the cult, but any other reason that I could think of would be negative at the outset and therefore useless to expend energy on.
The thing I enjoy about the C-cult and all the bizarre, weird and ultimately interesting writing that has come out of there is that it always makes me think - sometimes in new ways - and not necessarily in their ways. Reading their material helps me understand the types of negative emotions that it arouses and the way these emotions are triggered. That is critical to being able rise up from the mud.
Take them down? I would never do that. They are too damned entertaining. |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
11/5/2005 4:54 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
So I am a complete fool - no I want no part in crippling these people thanks. You are not nearly as clever as you think and you are wasting your time all the time at present. You cannot discuss your 5 dimensional interface with the Goddess because we will all laugh. But you may learn something here. Humility would help you digest some of the wisdom available. You have posted nothing intelligent that I have seen. Plus humour missed you out although you say that you have a wicked sense of it. No sign of that nor your great value to us. I need you like a hole in the head. |
| John Souttar´s secretary
User ID: 11797
11/5/2005 7:23 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
The fool doth think he is wise and John of course knows himself to be a fool and this will be (prabably will not be) his last post unless you all absolutely kneel, crawl before him and beg for him to come back. And even then that might not be enough. You may need to start other threads and quote extensively from his posts and flood the internet. And even then he might have to think about charging you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 39262
11/5/2005 7:28 AM | | John Souttar´s lawyer
User ID: 11797
11/5/2005 7:28 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Who is calling my client an idiot? |
| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 29088
11/5/2005 9:52 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
We come to the crux of it, so it seems. The agenda here at this thread is NOT to really have ANY substantial impact on the cult at all, at all. Anders says this, when asked about damaging the cult:
"No. I operate like Gandhi."
Well then, let me ask you this: What did Gandhi do to the British rule in India? He damged it, hurt it, crippled it, and led to a whole change in thinking. Gandhi was non-violent, but he was anything BUT passive and complacent. He certainly wasn´t a hypocrite!
John, who appears to really love hating me, said this nonsense:
"So I am a complete fool"
Yes you are, if you seriously believe the stuff you were insinuating about me and Laura (that SHE is a goddess?!?!?!), and really, why the fuck can´t or won;t you spell a name correctly?
"no I want no part in crippling these people thanks."
Again, this just reveals that those who are active here on this thread pose no threat whatsoever to Laura, and are in fact HELPING THE C-CULT IN THE MOST REPREHENSIBLE OF WAYS, by taking on such an enabling attitude here.
"You are not nearly as clever as you think and you are wasting your time all the time at present."
If the folk on this thread, such as yourself and Anders, want to keep HELPING THE CULT, then yeah, I guess I am indeed wasting my time.
"You cannot discuss your 5 dimensional interface with the Goddess because we will all laugh."
FUCK YOU, John. You have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about. My 5D Goddess interface has NO RELEVANCE AT ALL, AT ALL for the purposes of this thread, and that is the ONLY reason I haven´t discussed it. Why should I care what a fool laughs at?
"But you may learn something here."
Yes, I have learned that the people here say they want to "expose" the cult, but when it comes right down to it, your superficial treatment of the material, and lack of deep behind-the-mask analysis of Laura´s whole game, only strengthens her and the cult. Seriosuly, if this thread is the big threat to the cult´s future, then the cult is going to have a very prosperous and dangerous future indeed.
"Humility would help you digest some of the wisdom available."
What wisdom is that? The wisdom of how to be a weak, ineffectual poser whose words are riddled with hypocritical nonsense and by-default assistance to the cult?
"You have posted nothing intelligent that I have seen."
John, that´s because you ARE indeed a COMPLETE FOOL.
From this point on, in what limited capacity I do post, I will completely ignore John, because he is doing nothing but stirring up nonsensical personality conflicts that serve no one (except Laura).
Moving on, then- some Anonymous Coward wrote these words of "wisdom":
"Even at its worst, I doubt that the C-cult is that damaging."
Saying that just tells us that you have no understanding of what this cult really is, or the stakes involved.
"It may be presumptious to assume that concern for the poor exploited individuals is the reason for taking down the cult,"
That´s not the reason I am acting on. Those who are trapped within the cult are already dead in my opinion. No, the real danger that the cult poses is apocalyptic, mytho-historical, and has to do with the competing agendas for control of the collective consciousness.
"but any other reason that I could think of would be negative at the outset and therefore useless to expend energy on."
My point of view is "negative" in the same way that combating smallpox with vaccine is "negative".
FINALLY, there is this comment by V:
"I decided to take his questions seriously for the broader record that this thread represents. Most of his pushing, as about the mysterious book, is part of Steve´s personal agenda, and has nothing, really, to do with this thread except as I explained above."
This is where you are mistaken, V. To really get at the Big Picture elements in play with the c-cult, to see what the Manipulators are REALLY using it for, we must examine the Laura-Jay interaction very closely. You are too close to be objective on this aspect of it, but the plot level endorsed by Jay regarding the "Light masters" is the focal point. Fulcanelli and the hidden alchemical/apocalyptic conspiracy form one essential leg in a table; another leg is the Manipulated channeling world that the C-cult represents; a third leg is the New World order phenomenon; the fourth leg- that is something that I can´t even mention yet, unless you are willing to go into detail regarding the other three. The real pieces to the whole puzzle are on the tabletop, and can´t be looked at seriously until we stabilize the legs with some intense examination.
At this point, Laura´s Manipulators are the only ones looking at the tabletop. If you guys refuse to look there as well, then you will never, EVER pose any kind of threat to the cult, and worse than THAT, you WILL have to answer for your inaction when the apocalyptic alarm bell rings.
And as far as my coming off too high and mighty, as some kind of know-it-all, well, the truth is I AM an expert on these matters, and I DO see things relating to this in a way that no one here can, especially V and Anders, because you guys are too involved at the plot level to be really objective.
I am not asking anyone to "bow down before me" or any such nonsense. I am just laying out the bare facts of the matter, and offering to help you in exposing the REAL agendas in play with the cult- the Hidden Variables that lay on the tabletop. Since no one else here seems to even be aware that the tabletop EXISTS, you guys obviously need the perspective I can offer, IF, and I repeat IF, you intend to have ANY impact on the cult. IF we expose and examine the Hidden Variables here on this forum, it will force Laura´s hand in a way that even she does not even suspect, and turn the world of C-land upside down forever.
But the resistance I am getting here is really strange, and quite pathetic. OK, I admit it- I am a know-it-all self righteous demanding asshole who is insensitive to other people´s feelings, who steps on toes without giving a rat´s ass, and if you saw me in person I´d let you slap me in the face just to make you feel better.
NONE OF WHICH CHANGES THE FACT THAT YOU NEED ME.
Can we move on now to doing something that really matters? Or are you going to continue to wallow in irrelevancy and dwell on bruised egos?
The choice is yours. I am through wasting my time here, because really, if you let the opportunity to examine the tabletop slip away just because you don´t like me personally, then this forum IS nothing more than a false opposition to the cult which in the end only strengthens and enables L´ark´s mission.
So I am throwing down the gauntlet. V and other capable parties MUST engage me on the points I laid out on page 54, starting with the posts made on 10/25. We MUST get the first three legs of the table examined- which the posts in question begin to do- so we can then establish the fourth leg, and finally get onto the tabletop. No other approach is going to matter one bit, because they have all been talked about already in this thread. Seriously, what have you got to lose by going in a new direction, especially if I can deliver on my promises (which I absolutely can do), and turn Laura´s world inside out?
So I will check in from time to time over the next several days, and see what you guys are really made of, and what you are willing to do. My gauntlet is down. Pick it up, and I will be glad to engage, resulting in Laura´s entire plot level being FORCED TO CHANGE. Leave it on the ground, and our time together ends, with Laura breathing a sigh of relief.
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| Abraxas Future Self
User ID: 39262
11/5/2005 10:08 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Oh lord, I am me in the future, I have become assimilated with the C-Cult, we are now one.
It looks like my plot failed miserably as I should never have let the cat out of the bag.
A leakage of energy becomes another persons power!
Oooom Om. |
| John Souttar´s former attorney
User ID: 11797
11/5/2005 12:27 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Dear Mr. Abraxas Incaranate you are right about my former client. He obviously misread the thread and like the ´complete idiot´ he is (as I know to my cost), thought it was just about what he knew about Laura and the Cassipaeans, which as you realise is nothing or very little . Also we do not believe he has actually read the whole 57 pages like you sir.
You cannot imagine what a difficult person he is. His secretary got sacked today for misspelling the word probably. I have lost my brief for advising him that you may be right in your opinion of him. Do you need an English lawyer sir?
Also I admire you for pointing out to Mr. Anders that he is aiding this obscene cult. You are far too nice to Mr. Bridges in my opinion sir. The man is not answering your clearly stated points on page 54 in spite of your patience in demanding his replies several times and he does not deserve your valuable time. Perhaps in time this gentleman will realise it is wiser to obey you. Notice how he calls you Steve? Does he not realise that the Goddess authorised Abraxas Incarnate has power of life and death over him? They will all be sorry sir. |
| Anders
User ID: 39659
11/6/2005 6:48 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
LOL at the former Attorney! |
| Anders
User ID: 39659
11/6/2005 6:56 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
"No. I operate like Gandhi."
Well then, let me ask you this: What did Gandhi do to the British rule in India? He damged it, hurt it, crippled it, and led to a whole change in thinking. Gandhi was non-violent, but he was anything BUT passive and complacent. He certainly wasn´t a hypocrite!
hypocrisy
· n. (pl. hypocrisies) the practice of claiming to have higher standards or beliefs than is the case.
– ORIGIN ME: from OFr. ypocrisie, via eccles. L. from Gk hupokrisis ‘acting of a theatrical part’, from hupokrinesthai ‘play a part, pretend’.
A man so various that he seemed to be
Not one, but all mankind’s epitome.
Stiff in opinions, always in the wrong;
Was everything by starts, and nothing long:
But, in the course of one revolving moon,
Was chemist, fiddler, statesman, and buffoon. |
| Anders
User ID: 39659
11/6/2005 6:59 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
"No. I operate like Gandhi."
Well then, let me ask you this: What did Gandhi do to the British rule in India? He damged it, hurt it, crippled it, and led to a whole change in thinking. Gandhi was non-violent, but he was anything BUT passive and complacent. He certainly wasn´t a hypocrite!
quick refresher for Abraxas:
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (October 2, 1869–January 30, 1948) (Devanagari: मोहनद& #2366;स करमचन& #2381;द गांधी, Gujarati મોહનદ& #2750;સ કરમચં& #2726; ગાંધી) was a national icon who led the struggle for India´s independence from British colonial rule, empowered by tens of millions of common Indians. Throughout his life he opposed any form of terrorism or violence, instead using only the highest moral standards. His philosophy of nonviolence, for which he coined the term satyagraha, has influenced national and international nonviolent resistance movements to this day, including the American Civil Rights Movement led by Martin Luther King.
From the time he took charge of the freedom struggle and the Indian National Congress in 1918, he was lovingly revered as "Mahatma", or "Great Soul" by millions of Indians. Although he was much averse to honorary addresses, Gandhi is still today commonly referred to as Mahatma Gandhi, rather than Mohandas Gandhi, all over the world. Apart from being considered one of the greatest Hindu and Indian leaders of all time, he is revered by many in India as the "Father of the Nation" or Bapu (Hindi for Father). His birthday on October 2, Gandhi Jayanti, is a national holiday in India.
By means of nonviolent civil disobedience, Gandhi helped bring about India´s independence from British rule, inspiring other colonial peoples to work for their own independence and ultimately dismantling the British Empire. Gandhi´s principle of satyagraha (from Sanskrit; satya for truth and agraha for endeavor), often translated as "way of truth" or "pursuit of truth", has inspired other freedom activists such as the Dalai Lama, Lech Wałęsa, Steve Biko, Aung San Suu Kyi and Nelson Mandela. However, not all these leaders kept to Gandhi´s strict principle of nonviolence and nonresistance.
Gandhi often stated that his principles were simple; drawn from traditional Hindu beliefs: truth (satya) and nonviolence (ahimsa). As Gandhi said: "I have nothing new to teach the world. Truth and nonviolence are as old as the hills." |
| Anders
User ID: 39659
11/6/2005 7:03 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
"No. I operate like Gandhi."
Well then, let me ask you this: What did Gandhi do to the British rule in India? He damged it, hurt it, crippled it, and led to a whole change in thinking. Gandhi was non-violent, but he was anything BUT passive and complacent. He certainly wasn´t a hypocrite!
So, within this thread, we have aspired so far over several months and 57 pages to follow Gandhi´s principles of satyagraha (from Sanskrit; satya for truth and agraha for endeavor), often translated as "way of truth" or "pursuit of truth."
I think we are doing a fine job of exposing the underbelly of Cassiopaea, via TRUTH and ENDEAVOUR.
IMO that is all that is needed.
The law is taking its course in France.
This thread is no doubt secretly being read by many dupes still involved in the Cult.
Ultimately it is their decision - a Cult cannot exist without members. |
| Anders
User ID: 39659
11/6/2005 7:23 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
This is where you are mistaken, V. To really get at the Big Picture elements in play with the c-cult, to see what the Manipulators are REALLY using it for, we must examine the Laura-Jay interaction very closely. You are too close to be objective on this aspect of it, but the plot level endorsed by Jay regarding the "Light masters" is the focal point. Fulcanelli and the hidden alchemical/apocalyptic conspiracy form one essential leg in a table; another leg is the Manipulated channeling world that the C-cult represents; a third leg is the New World order phenomenon; the fourth leg- that is something that I can´t even mention yet, unless you are willing to go into detail regarding the other three. The real pieces to the whole puzzle are on the tabletop, and can´t be looked at seriously until we stabilize the legs with some intense examination.
At this point, Laura´s Manipulators are the only ones looking at the tabletop. If you guys refuse to look there as well, then you will never, EVER pose any kind of threat to the cult, and worse than THAT, you WILL have to answer for your inaction when the apocalyptic alarm bell rings.
And as far as my coming off too high and mighty, as some kind of know-it-all, well, the truth is I AM an expert on these matters, and I DO see things relating to this in a way that no one here can, especially V and Anders, because you guys are too involved at the plot level to be really objective.
I am not asking anyone to "bow down before me" or any such nonsense. I am just laying out the bare facts of the matter, and offering to help you in exposing the REAL agendas in play with the cult- the Hidden Variables that lay on the tabletop. Since no one else here seems to even be aware that the tabletop EXISTS, you guys obviously need the perspective I can offer, IF, and I repeat IF, you intend to have ANY impact on the cult. IF we expose and examine the Hidden Variables here on this forum, it will force Laura´s hand in a way that even she does not even suspect, and turn the world of C-land upside down forever.
The ball is in your court.
Fine, expose the legs and tabletop.
You keep referring to page 54, which is huge.
I suggest you precis what you want to examine (from page 54) so that we all know exatly where we stand.
Make a list of the points you want to address and we can get started.
OK??? |
| John Souttar
User ID: 11797
11/6/2005 7:28 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
John gets serious.
I intend to discuss Vallee and what is really going on.
(1) Conmen: Knock on the door all over the world, say they are from the Water company, ask the resident to go in the kitchen and turn on the taps while they take their savings from an envelope in a cupboard in the sitting room. Have done this throughout recorded history. I have investigated many of these.
(2) Time travel: Was proved in the 60´s by users of psychedelic drugs. I have personal experience of this.
(3) Visions: Hypnosis has proved that individuals and groups can see things which are not physically apparent.
(4) Most Governments: Have a mission to use all resources possible to maintain stability. This might include hypnotising and conning populations, using time travel to seed events and movements, inducing visions which are remembered consciously or subconsciously.
(5) Sightings: Many people lie about them and as Vallee points out hypnosis may be creating memories of these. In your life you may meet some who you can absolutely trust on this matter. Your own experience would be good but not necessarily the most reliable. Those I can trust on this have never mentioned them to any others.
(6) Sects: Are created by members rather than leaders. Members ask the leaders for information that they do not have and do so because they absolutely trust them. They go and turn the taps on when told.
(7) Secret technology: All of us understand that Governments are developing and testing technologies in secret all the time and can use all the above to hide the fact. This is perfectly reasonable to any who endured the cold war.
Conclusion: Vallee and others - I know an eminent member of this select group in Silicon Valley - are those trying to maintain stability. Laura for example is one who seeks to undermine ´democracy´. Why sect leaders take this path is due to their members demanding this. The members invest in the cult and demand a product. This will be power in a new order. It is typical of all sects that the trade off is ´chosen´ ´heaven´ or ´higher development than others´.
There is no doubt that running alongside of this is proof of physical contact but no evidence to suggest that it is not due to one of the categories above.
The Cassiopaean cult is quite important. It has the capability to undermine stability and therefore is subject to official control measures. Those who follow this thread represent all of the above categories and some are engaged in forensic work without doubt. Others are actually involved in undermining a destabilising factor.
Reality: The contact that was made in the kitchen in Florida years ago was with a seed planted retrospectively by an important government department. It deliberately fed false information through a psychic channel. The officer responsible has communicated with me and I have been able to check this out to a limited extent. At the present time there is a tug of war. However the initial seeding dictates events and it is unlikely that permission will be granted to revisit retrospectively.
Warning: While you have been in the kitchen testing the taps something may have been in your hard drive, office, safe. It happens dont get too upset. Stability is far more important. You may want to check out what finances Jacques Vallee´s venture capital firm. The man is very nice and it is right that our attention should be drawn to him. As it has been to Ark.
I know none of you read long posts - even spooks. The plot level tabletop stuff is this. Laura will be made to look silly and the inference will be that even if she is in contact with UFO´s you cannot trust them and you lose all your friends and credibility if you do. Nor do they make you rich. A good book debunking them will and if you behave like Jacques you can be very successful and admired by all sides. |
| AC Girl
User ID: 17660
11/6/2005 7:52 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Anders, why don´t you want to hear more from Abraxus about smashing the Cult?
Abraxus, we are honoured to have you here; please go on. This thread should be about finding and disseminating truth, not bubblegum.
Now, what is this situation between Laura and Jay, and what are the Cassies really doing which might be a threat to our souls????? |
| John Souttar friend of Abraxas
User ID: 11797
11/6/2005 8:02 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
AC Girl he doesn´t spell it Abraxus. A complete idiot could tell you that. |
| Anders
User ID: 39659
11/6/2005 8:15 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Anders, why don´t you want to hear more from Abraxus about smashing the Cult?
I do, see my last post.
I find it rather distasteful tho, thoughts of crippling and smashing.
I would rather see it (the Cult) dismantled, by the courts. Let them do their job; Laura and Ark are nothing more than criminals, stealing over a quarter of a million dollars, and the law must take its course.
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| John Souttar
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11/6/2005 12:26 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Anders that long post about the green man is surely applicable here. Laura did hypnosis too as you know. Sanitising the Cult with abduction theories? |
| Anders
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11/6/2005 4:06 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
644 John - yeeeesssss |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2005 10:25 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/8/2005 3:05 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| Anders
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11/8/2005 5:50 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
daily bump n grind |
| Abraxas Incarnate
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11/8/2005 11:21 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I am not going to get sucked into the soup of John´s nonsensical anti-replies to me, so I will cut to these comments by Anders:
"I think we are doing a fine job of exposing the underbelly of Cassiopaea, via TRUTH and ENDEAVOUR."
You haven´t even come close to exposing the underbelly as yet; you have provided many interesting and informative tales, accusations, and sob stories, but nothing thusfar has penetrated into the mind of Laura OR, most importantly, gotten at the truth behind her Manipulators.
"IMO that is all that is needed."
I respect your opinion, Anders. I just think it falls far short of the standard that your responsibility forces upon you in this case.
"The law is taking its course in France."
Again you are missing the point entirely. The Manipulators are controlling the law, they are pulling the strings of the French authorities, and they intend to burn down the cult when the time is right.
"This thread is no doubt secretly being read by many dupes still involved in the Cult.
Ultimately it is their decision - a Cult cannot exist without members."
On that score, of course you are doing much good with this thread. But that still does not get at the real causes behind the entire unfolding saga.
"Fine, expose the legs and tabletop."
I will be happy to do that, but to do so I require the participation of others on the frequency such exposure demands. This means mainly V and others, yourself included, must tacle the issues raised on page 54.
"You keep referring to page 54, which is huge.
I suggest you precis what you want to examine (from page 54) so that we all know exatly where we stand.
Make a list of the points you want to address and we can get started.
OK???"
OK, I will repost the relevant pieces in my next message.
Wait a moment- John actually "got serious" and started posting valuable analysis, even including some Vallee material?!?!?!
John, I take back all that I have said about you and apologize. It turns out that I am the asshole for underestimating you. I´ll address you EXCELLENT post in the near future.
Then there is this from the AC Girl:
"Abraxus, we are honoured to have you here; please go on. This thread should be about finding and disseminating truth, not bubblegum."
Thanks AC- but it is not Abrax-Us! Arrghhh...
"Now, what is this situation between Laura and Jay,"
The entire mechanics of the C-cult plot level reached the tipping point during her interaction with Jay, chronicled in the "wiley pages" at the cass site. It reveals the secret agenda of her Manipulators, and goes to the heart of what THEY are using the cult for. I will repost my initial queries on this aspect, and with good responses, we can get at this all-important facet to things.
Note: V will be very uncomfortable and reluctant to discuss this part of the material for personal reasons that are quite understandable. When I first brought it up he was quick to downplay it and push the topic off the screen immediately. I apologize to V for forcing the issue, but it IS the key to revealing the whole Big Picture that the Manipulators are acting upon. There were very, very specific reasons why laura was told to probe Jay on certain things, and there is an entire as-yet-unguessed (especially by V) reason why Laura was told to rip off V & Jay´s Fulcanelli research.
"and what are the Cassies really doing which might be a threat to our souls?????"
Nothing. The only threats to your soul come as a result of your own mis-deeds or inappropriately placed trust.
The threat that the C-cult poses is on a much larger and far more disturbing scale. But we can get into all that once the points I am reposting from page 54 are discussed indepth.
Now friends, I will be away for the next week or so- my wife and I have actually returned to the USA from our home in Australia, and we are going down to Washington DC for a week of cosmic adventure among the momuments and secret rooms of Freemasonry. When I get back, we shall see what is what and who is whom.
I will clsoe by saying that I am getting a good feeling about this forum again.
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| Abraxas Incarnate
User ID: 29088
11/8/2005 11:26 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Reposting now...this first set is about the Manipulators, the OPs, and the lack of an exit strategy for those in the cult. I would like some opinions yes-or-no as to the various points here, especially from those who were once inside.
OK then, I asked the question:
The C´s are only in phase two thus far. Who´s putting bets on there being a fiery end prior to phase three?
Anders replied with:
"i have often wondered what will happen, another jonestown, another heaven´s gate
certainly has the potential"
And Vincent gave us this:
V: Actually Steve, that´s what this is all about... If we can get the group to self destruct, enough people asking the inconvenient questions, before it reaches critical mass, then a Solar temple/Heavens gate/Waco scenario might be avoided...
Alright guys, try THIS one on for size and see if it fits...the Hidden Variables of any cult scene, the pieces of agenda that make everything fall into place and reveal what is actually going on, are only perceptible from the cult guru´s point of view. In essence, we need to think like Laura (Egad! Help!) in order to find out why she has played things a certain way.
Look deep inside the mind of a cult leader, and you will find an ego caught in its own web of lies, desperate to never be revealed. Literally, the guru would rather die than be exposed as a total fraud and lose the faithful. In fact, the guru would PREFER that everyone in the cult die rather than have the truth be known. Its the same logic behind the particualr type of killer calkled a "family annihilator". Typically, it is a successful white male in his 40s, who has suddenly lost his job and can no longer keep up the lifestyle his family is accustomed to. Thus, to spare them the pain of hard times and losing their high-brow world, the father annihilates them, bringing death while at the top, to avoid having to fall to the bottom. The same dynamic is in play with a cult leader, but things are much much worse.
You see, this would "explain" the House Raffle scam and the way that they obviously blundered the fraud and will eventually get caught for it and other crimes. It´s all part of the program. Laura WANTS the government of France or whomever to indict her, threaten to send in the law and drag her away, because it will be the ultimate justification for her beliefs and it provides the shocking easy-way-out for her personally. If she is taken down in flames by The Man for what will obviously be sold to the cult as "THEM trying to shut down OUR voice of truth", then there is never any need for her Big Lie to be exposed.
This is the standard issue fare for cult scenarios- fading from the phase two "waiting game" of being "Under Siege" directly into phase three´s bloody "final countdown."
Now Vincent objected to this as a possibility in this comment:
"They are in stage three, perhaps only the early stages yet, but the more this thread gets attention then their usefulness to any kind of operation is minimalized."
But I would argue that the drasiming awauy of usefulness through the exposutre this thread creates may actually force the final countdown to happen sooner, moving up the timetable, especially if we ARE having a noticeable drip-drip-drip effect on the cult mindset.
LAURA WOULD RATHER DIE THAN LOSE THE CULT.
Now then, V wrote this:
"Remember they are a White Op, a public front designed to seem marginal, and are not, classically, a UFO cult; that is they are not among the usual suspects. If you remember my thesis in The UFO Enigma, then a blending of spiritualism and junk-science within a science-ficitional framework that includes UFO, marks a new stage in the development of the phenomenon."
I agree with this, but the new stage information that would have been the whole point has been already obtained by the White Ops manipulators; thus, there is nothing for them to lose, nowhere to go but into the fire.
"The Cs, who had nothing original to say, eventually had little to do with what LKJ´s Cult became. That happened after 9/11 and during our initial conflicts. The political element gave an odd kind of credibility to what otherwise wouldn´t have been noticed."
This means to me that the Manipulators, working through Dr Ark, are using the cult as a control system to test out apocalyptic political plots, which are obviously in play to the extreme and present problems that the Manipulators need resolved. So, they find a proto-cult scene with the original Laura-Fred C-contacts. They Dr Ark is sent in to make things much darker according to the script being fed through him by the Manipulators. They want to test the willing public´s response to not just whacked out 9/11 theories, but also more slippery pseudo-science concepts- which have actually been a major focus of the phase two conflicts. Not only are they "Under siege" from the evil Bush/Mossad/NWO, but they are also doing a righteous battle against the evils of the scientific establishment, which as we all know is the TRUE nasty force holding back human evolution. Oh, thank heavens Dr Ark and the twins have been sent in to help show us the way in precise quasi-mathematical terms! How impressive!
It is all a labaoratory, being run by the Manipulators, who WILL burn it down in the end, once the data no longer produces what they desire. In fact, in order for the experiment to have ANY value, they MUST run it into the ground to study the full arc of the cult effect.
Thus:
"By the time the Raffle scam happened and they fled to France and tried to start up again with a strictly political slant, the shift was complete. Infiltrated and controlled, ready to go... And then, once again, just as LKJ made the Rense radio show, here I come again with those inconvenient questions..."
I think that your questions, V, are VERY coinvenient, because once your expose puts the pressure on to the point where they DO face jail time etc, you can bet that this will be the alarm bell for the Final Countdown to begin.
Just look at what has happened:
"As that conflict unfolded, things went really, spectaculary bad in France. They were thrown out of their house, was sued and lost for the damages, they libeled the local Prefect, the police chief/magistrate, who is suing them at this moment, and bounced a check for 50,000 Euros for another Chateau, charges have been dropped on that one. They were rescued, mysteriously, by friends of the Bog twins, and pretty much given the use of the current Chateau in Castelsarrasin... So far, they have been protected by some one with pull, but the local police are well aware of all the strangeness at the Chateau..."
So the Manipulators have total control over the situation, and are currently using the conflict to up the tension within the group as well as root out any phase three members who might not be willing to go all the way. The amazing legal rescue implies a deadly reversal when it suits the needs of the Manipulators- when they are ready to shut down the experiment and analyze the results.
So given all of that, I seriosuly question whether or not there is any option other than a fiery end, especially when the good efforts being made here are nevertheless playing into the long-term plan of the Manipulators. Of course, we still are bringing useful light to thwe whole thing, and can prevent others from falling into the rabbit hole- but as far as anyone still down there with L´ark, forget them. They are already dead, most likely- they just havent received the instructions to drink the Kool-Aid yet.
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Last bit of commentary today, concerning the mysterious fascist theology of Organic Portals.
For one thing it is old news. It may seem like an original idea of Laura´s, but it is merely a default psychodynamic of the cult process. Back in the days of my own cult, our version of this OP theology became one of the most disturbing and slippery aspects of the whole unfolding plot level.
It works like this. Obviously, some people are awake and others (at least 70% of humanity) are asleep inside the dream of consesnsus reality, what David Icke and now Laura have identified as the Matrix. They are correct in that most people are slaves to dogmatic ideologies that rob them of true consciousness. Its no surprise then that when you create a cult scenario, or even just set out on your own private path of gnosis, this OP interference will appear and try to undermine your progress. Why? Because you are sectioning off your consciousness from the collective, resulting in a feedback within your own psyche causing strange feelings about "other people" who are not part of your plot level.
Thius it is inescapible that any outsider coming into the plot will be, by defualt, cast in an OP light. At its most benign, this means that your parents, family, and friends not in the cult, will try to "undermine your progress" simply because they care about you and do not understand what is happening to you. From within the plot level cult view, this can be seen as nothing less than a deadly threat to the cult as a whole, thus associating with people from your old life is always discouraged.
On a more sinister note, you can begin to suck these people INTO the plot, and then they are seen as deliberate infiltrators "sent in" to bring down the cult. This is when things can get really scary. For example, cosmic figures with whom you are in contact warn you that the dark forces are going to send a spy to infiltrate your cult. The next day, completely by chance, you meet an old friend who wants to drop by and see what you are up to nowadays. Next thing you know, your cult comrades will have him knocked out on the floor, checking his skull for implanted surveillance devices. Do you think I am joking? NOT AT ALL. I´ve seen this, and much worse, result from the shadowy uncertainty that the OP theology creates.
The sad fact is, some people are so asleep that they CAN be hijacked by sinister forces and have their conscious minds subverted, effectively turning them into organic portals for off-stage controllers from anywhere to manipulate. I call them Agents of Chaos. BUT this can only be done to people around you IF YOU ALREADY BELIEVE IN IT. In fact, it is YOUR OWN MIND (or the cult groupthink mind) that makes this invasion possible.
It has to do with the way that reality is merely manufactured by group agreement. Essentially what happens is that an alternative consensus reality is constructed, within which the cult operates. This alternate reality has alternate rules and creates a magickal space where weird, impossible things can occur, AS LONG AS EVERYONE PRESENT IS OF ONE MIND. If an interloper of some kind enters the scene, the alternate reality will reconfigure that person´s consciousness in the same way that everyone else´s is being altered; the difference is, since the new interloper is not one of the plot level participants, the only role left open IS that of the OP infiltrator. All of this happens unconsciously, entirely by default. If the interloper is weak, they will become possessed/hijacked by whatever "enemy" the cult plot has proivided; if the interloper is of a strong character, then his own personal outrage and concern will make him an equally effective plot level front for said enemy- such as happened with Vincent and the Cs.
What NO ONE seems to understand is that this effect comes about for one reason only: We humans are ALL connected as neurons in the planetary brain. When a cult is created, it is like one small section of the brain "going insane" and manufacturing its own reality, having nothing to do with the consensus reality the brain is collectively experiencing.
Morpheus unplugs Neo from the Matrix, but oh no- Look! Agents are everywhere....
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Rereading my last post, I realize that it could easily be misconstrued to mean that I am somehow "validating" or "justifying" Laura´s Organic Portal theology. Hardly.
Her abuse of the principle has warped it into a fascist creed designed to dehumanize any and all who do not agree with the mythos of C-land. This is obviously the extreme result of the default psychodynamics I outlined in my previous post.
I see very clearly how and why she has concocted this version of the theory. It makes the Under Siege phase all the more exciting and sets up anyone who might object in terms that make it possible for Laura to have anything at all done to friends and family members of cult members, not to mention legitimate enemies, up to and including murder, all under the premise that "they aren´t REALLY human anyway..."
Dangerous stuff, and it must be understood, which is again my whole point in being here.
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About those still dug in deep at the chateau/C-cult compound, again I really have to question seriously whether or not they have a viable escape.
Consider this story from Jacques Vallee´s book DIMENSIONS, describing a typical UFO contact cult of the mid-80s, one that began with a housewife who suddenly started receiving messages from "the Guardians". Wihtin a year, there was a nice little sect gathered around her drinking from the cosmic well. Soon, of course, phase two kicked in, snd she began to get dire predictions about impending global disasters, floods etc etc. The doom didn´t come true, but ironically, this only STRENGTHENED the cult followers´ belief in thier guru! Why? Because the reason the flood didn´t happen, obviously, is that the good work of the cult changed the future and saved us all!
Vallee ends his recounting with this bit about the cult´s final days:
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The believers who had trusted all the signs and the sincerity of their medium or channel would be left completely isolated- having lost or resigned their jobs, in some cases having sold all their earthly possessions, committed to a reality that only they could perceive; they would be forever unable to tell the whole story. The most highly educated man in the group, a local professor, would eventually comment:
“I’ve gone a long way. I’ve given up just about everything. I’ve cut every tie. I’ve burned every bridge. I’ve turned my back on the world. I can’t afford to doubt. I have to believe. And there isn’t any other truth…You’re having your period of doubt now, but hang on, boy, hang on. This is a tough time but we know that the boys upstairs are taking care of us…”
This is a frightening view, one that in the future may take new forms and engulf more people. There is a pattern behind this structure, and that pattern is not CONTACT but CONTROL.
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Again, I urge you all to read Vallee as soon as possible for the full story.
So then, we see that the reinforcement which occurs as the cult passes from phase two to phase three involves a moving of the cult member´s mind totally away from logic, replacing rational thought with a desperate need to believe at all costs. Combine this with a charismatic leader who feeds on followers, and you have a recipe for Chateau Jonestown.
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